John Joyce - John Anthony Joyce Dead Beat Dad Mean Abusive Parent Infidel Helena, Montana
John Joyce is a dead beat dad. I have custody of our special needs son and he boasts that he will never work a job I can garnish.He sporadically and inconsitently sends child support when he feels like it, leaves me abusive voice mails when I ask for him to help, (I have saved all of them!) and is now supporting a new family, a wife and two children exclusively instead of helping his own son.
He spews christianity and justifies his actions with his "beliefs". He is very unstable and I warn future employers, he has been fired or quit 90% of his jobs. He has Bi Polar disorder and has never been reliable.
The new wife will soon tire of his insane moods and divorce him.
A warning to all potential new relationships, this man needs SERIOUS therapy to ever lead a semi-normal life or develop a meaningful character. He will verbal and maybe even physically abuse you. This is the absolute truth about him. He is an Infidel~
Patricia
Tacoma, Washington
U.S.A.
5 Updates & Rebuttals
Patricia
Honolulu,Hawaii,
U.S.A.
He can't hide forever!
#6Author of original report
Mon, June 05, 2006
Thank you for your advice~
He last told us he was moving to Idaho to become a land surveyor, "nurse" or "EMT". Supposedly he took classes and training for this in Montana.
His main scope of work over the years has been residential maintenance. His last message to us a few days ago was that he was moving soon. He might already be in Idaho. Or back with Mommy in Independence Kansas. Employers BEWARE~
He will be caught in his web of deceit.....
Patricia (his unfortunate first ex, he is now on wife #three)
Laura
Lebanon,Oregon,
U.S.A.
Our system is not perfect.
#6Consumer Suggestion
Mon, June 05, 2006
Employers (I do believe even in washington now) have a legal responsability to fill out a new hire worksheet, and send it to support enforcement. At least here in Oregon it is called the new hire law, (or something along those lines) and we (as employers) are bound to report all new employees names, ssn, ect to the department of Justice, support enforcement division. It is becoming as common a practice now a days as W-4 and I-9 forms for employers and new hires. The only jobs that leaves for deadbeats, is under the table jobs. I'm sure there are plenty, but it's not a very stable or good job at best.
If he has two other children to raise then the support enforcement office will take that into consideration when calculating his income for child support. He has an obligation to provide for them, as well as your child.
My suggestion to you is to find out where he works, and when he quits or gets fired from that job, find out again where he works. If you want it bad enough, you are (unfortunately) going to have to be the one to do the footwork associated with following this man around from employer to employer if they are not very good employers.
If you hire a pi it will probably cost you more than it's worth, simply because of his two other children, and low paying or "under the table" type jobs. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
I wish you all the best-
Laura
Lebanon,Oregon,
U.S.A.
Our system is not perfect.
#6Consumer Suggestion
Mon, June 05, 2006
Employers (I do believe even in washington now) have a legal responsability to fill out a new hire worksheet, and send it to support enforcement. At least here in Oregon it is called the new hire law, (or something along those lines) and we (as employers) are bound to report all new employees names, ssn, ect to the department of Justice, support enforcement division. It is becoming as common a practice now a days as W-4 and I-9 forms for employers and new hires. The only jobs that leaves for deadbeats, is under the table jobs. I'm sure there are plenty, but it's not a very stable or good job at best.
If he has two other children to raise then the support enforcement office will take that into consideration when calculating his income for child support. He has an obligation to provide for them, as well as your child.
My suggestion to you is to find out where he works, and when he quits or gets fired from that job, find out again where he works. If you want it bad enough, you are (unfortunately) going to have to be the one to do the footwork associated with following this man around from employer to employer if they are not very good employers.
If you hire a pi it will probably cost you more than it's worth, simply because of his two other children, and low paying or "under the table" type jobs. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
I wish you all the best-
Laura
Lebanon,Oregon,
U.S.A.
Our system is not perfect.
#6Consumer Suggestion
Mon, June 05, 2006
Employers (I do believe even in washington now) have a legal responsability to fill out a new hire worksheet, and send it to support enforcement. At least here in Oregon it is called the new hire law, (or something along those lines) and we (as employers) are bound to report all new employees names, ssn, ect to the department of Justice, support enforcement division. It is becoming as common a practice now a days as W-4 and I-9 forms for employers and new hires. The only jobs that leaves for deadbeats, is under the table jobs. I'm sure there are plenty, but it's not a very stable or good job at best.
If he has two other children to raise then the support enforcement office will take that into consideration when calculating his income for child support. He has an obligation to provide for them, as well as your child.
My suggestion to you is to find out where he works, and when he quits or gets fired from that job, find out again where he works. If you want it bad enough, you are (unfortunately) going to have to be the one to do the footwork associated with following this man around from employer to employer if they are not very good employers.
If you hire a pi it will probably cost you more than it's worth, simply because of his two other children, and low paying or "under the table" type jobs. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
I wish you all the best-
Laura
Lebanon,Oregon,
U.S.A.
Our system is not perfect.
#6Consumer Suggestion
Mon, June 05, 2006
Employers (I do believe even in washington now) have a legal responsability to fill out a new hire worksheet, and send it to support enforcement. At least here in Oregon it is called the new hire law, (or something along those lines) and we (as employers) are bound to report all new employees names, ssn, ect to the department of Justice, support enforcement division. It is becoming as common a practice now a days as W-4 and I-9 forms for employers and new hires. The only jobs that leaves for deadbeats, is under the table jobs. I'm sure there are plenty, but it's not a very stable or good job at best.
If he has two other children to raise then the support enforcement office will take that into consideration when calculating his income for child support. He has an obligation to provide for them, as well as your child.
My suggestion to you is to find out where he works, and when he quits or gets fired from that job, find out again where he works. If you want it bad enough, you are (unfortunately) going to have to be the one to do the footwork associated with following this man around from employer to employer if they are not very good employers.
If you hire a pi it will probably cost you more than it's worth, simply because of his two other children, and low paying or "under the table" type jobs. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
I wish you all the best-