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John Priest, JKP & Associates, Automax Misleading recruitment and hiring practice - Representing Auto Dealerships nationwide as "Trainer & Recruiter" Gresham Oregon
I was contacted by Jane (stated as a representative of the local dealership hiring) regarding an automotive sales position (they had found my resume on careerbuilder.com). The email stated:
"I represent Weston Pontiac Buick GMC in Gresham. We came across the resume you posted on Careerbuilder.com and would like to invite you to to come in and speak to us about a career in auto sales.
Interviews will be held Monday and Tuesday from 9:30 AM to 6:00 PM.
You don't need automotive experience! Let me know what day and time would work best for you. Let's talk!
Sincerely,
Jane"
Being an optimistic person, I thought I would take some time and explore this. We agreed on a scheduled time to meet with John Priest at the dealership Monday morning, this was under the assumption this individual was a manager at said dealership (I have been involved in retail recruitment such as this prior, so this was not something I was surprised by).
Some additional background, an ad was placed on monster.com and careerbuilder.com as follows:
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GM SALES REPS
No Experience Wanted!
We Will Train You Our Way!
Join Our Professional & Fun Team!
We Have Full-Time Positions With Benefits!
Hiring for Multiple Positions:
Customer Service Reps
Showroom Floor Sales Reps
Internet Sales Reps
Phone Sales Reps
Applicants must be enthusiastic, high-energy, people-persons!
Do you like cars? Do you like Trucks? Do you like American-made automobiles?
Do you just want a chance to try something new and fun?
Do you want to make a really good income (with benefits) in a professional and fun atmosphere?
Can you drive around in brand new $30,000 - $60,000 automobiles?
Can you talk and look, like a professional?
Can you treat people with respect and be enthusiastic and FUN about it?
THEN YOU CAN DO THIS!
Now looking for energetic "People-Persons" to hire!
IS IT TIME FOR A BRAND NEW "FUN" CAREER?
EARN WHILE YOU LEARN!
$4,500 Guaranteed Income while Training!
NO EXPERIENCE WANTED!
WE WILL SHOW YOU THE WESTON WAY OF DOING BUSINESS!
WESTON PONTIAC BUICK GMC BENEFITS: RATED #1 COMPANY TO WORK FOR IN OREGON BY THE OREGON BUSINESS JOURNAL! $4,500 guaranteed income while training that starts as soon as you are hired! Average annual earnings for salespeople is $55,000! Our top salesperson earned $150,000+ last year! Family minded work schedules! #1 volume Pontiac Buick GMC dealer in the entire Northwest! Community oriented dealership! Exciting Professional Training Provided for you! HUGE TRUCK CENTER Ongoing, Professional Corporate Training! FAMILY OWNED DEALERSHIP FOR OVER 35 YEARS = WE TREAT OUR CUSTOMERS RIGHT! Winner of GMs prestigious Standards of Excellence Award! Huge, 5 acre campus full of new and pre-owned vehicles! ONGOING CAREER PATH ADVANCEMENT SYSTEM (we promote from within!)
RATED #1 COMPANY TO WORK FOR IN OREGON - OREGON BUSINESS JOURNAL!All Interviews will be held at:
Weston Pontiac Buick GMC
22555 SE Stark, Gresham, OR 97030
Interviews are 2 days only!
Monday, April 7th & Tuesday, April 8th
from 9:30am 6:00pm
Ask for JOHN PRIEST at the reception desk!
Bi-lingual is a plus! Make sure you bring your own pen and dress professionally for the interview. Save time by applying online! Use the APPLY ONLINE button to submit your application or just show up!! No phone calls please. Equal Opportunity Employer & Drug Free Work Place.
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Monday morning, I arrived as I would to any job interview (about 15 minutes early) and stated I had an appointment with John Priest. The sales associates there (all standing around becuase there were no customers) handed me a sign in sheet for this "open interview style" job fair) and said he should be down shortly, then handed me something that he said was an application. I sat in their waiting area and completed this application. I have years of recruiting and hiring in retail and had never in my life seen such a horribly constructed "application" (red flag #1). Appeared as though someone had thrown it together in MS Word, asking for basic information.
I completed this in about 5 minutes, and waited. And waited more... about 30 minutes go by and some people that appear to be candidates come and go. A small group of about 3 people leave after I have been there around 40 minutes. Shortly after (45-50 minutes or so) an asian looking gentleman dressed very well (full suit) walks through the lobby with a handful of papers and heads directly to the reception desk (this was John Priest). He talks with the sales people for a few minutes and stood around, then headed back up stairs. Roughly 15 minutes later, he returns back to the reception desk and stands there for another 5 mintues. He then heads toward me and addresses me by name. John mentioned he appreciated me waiting, and would be back in a few minutes as he was finishing up with some folks. As I sat on the couch - I could hear two individuals talking on the balcony - John Priest and someone else. Roughly 30 minutes later, he returns and we walked to a conference room for this "interview". This interview was not a normal sales interview, as John did most of the talking asking only a few specific questions not related to sales, automotive, or customer service in any way! The questions were focused on personal interests and personal life. This is ok, as I typically ask these types of questions myself when interviewing for sales positions, but those follow everything else as a character builder.
After about 10 minutes of us talking, and me having to write down on a piece of paper why I would be a good fit for this job, John said "congratulations! of behalf of the dealer, I would like to invite you back to our training which will take place at the Pony Soldier hotel Wednesday - Friday this week!" (red flag #2) He stated if I had any questions, these would be answered Wednesday and we would see if this was what I wanted to do (as he stated with each person). I thanked him and said I would be there, and we would see what pans out... All in all, I waited roughly 90 minutes for this person (who I had an appoitnement with), all to talk for 10-15 minutes. A side note - I had never seen any other people leave prior to heading to this conference room since the initial three... red flag #3).
John Priest had introduced himself as a consultant, who specializes in recruiting within the auto industry. This I could understand - again, I have been exposed to legitimate consultant recruiters in my past.
After leaving, I did some research on John Priest and his company (JKP & Associates) only to find that he was associated with Automax Recruiting, and that his "clients" (dealerships throughout the west) were listed on his website. The interesting piece of information I found was that there is absolutely NO contact information listed anywhere for John Priest or JKP & Associates ANYWHERE! The Better Bussiness Beurea has no accredidation with him, nor have current contact information - the address listed with BBB was of a bogus one in downtown Gresham, OR! (I also found another address for his company in Gresham, that was false as well.... (red flag #4)
Red Flag #5 = None of his "clients" list any information of John Priest, JKP & Associates, or Automax Recruiting on their webistes for employment.
From my professional experience, this is a normal item to have listed - If you have a consultant completing your hiring, you would direct applicants in this fashion...
With all of this information, I decided I would attend the "training" to see what would happen - thanks to posts listed on this site, as well as others I found out that in the end they want you to purchase a "certification" from Automax for a substantial amount of money. I'll get into this more shortly.
Wednesday morning, I arrived at the hotel for this training. A number of people were roaming about, and a very diverse group as well. I went in, and found a seat. Everyone then piled into this little room (at a cheap hotel I might add...) John started his introduction and agenda. There was informatoin provided on the industry and such, followed with some group interaction and team introductions). John was a great public speaker and very enthuiastic speaker - he can certianly grab your attention!
He got everyone in the room pumped up, and excited quickly (great sales person). There was a break every hour just about (again, good tactic - people stay focused, attentive, and involved). He did not allow any questions to be asked at all - he would simply continue talking over anyone with questions. I patiently awaited some conversation and topics of the job, how many positions there were (there were 18 people in this training), and general discussion about customer interactions, service, and sales. John then went into his life story for upwards of 3-4 hours! Everyone was intoxicated by his life - he would mention over and over about how much money he makes, how he started out in auto sales accidently, money...money...money! He knows how to get people involved.
Something interesting - every person in that training (including myself) were currently unemployed (red flag #6). The most unprofessional portion was when he began to give "gut-checks" as he put it to the group. He polled and asked how many people in the room owned there own home - 2 people confirmed. He stated "that's pittifull!" add 30 years to your age now, you'll never be able to afford to buy one! He went on and on about how everyone in this room was, for lack of a better term - "poor", and that any job you get would never allow you to live the way you want. As I looked around the room, it seemed as though every person was bought into his ideas, and statements (true or not) and on board with him. And why not!? He made some enticing statements and pursuasive remarks on how well we could do in this industry!
I was ammused, and at the same time disgussted by all of this. After about 4 hours of John talking about himself, and finally the pay structure, dealership, and business itself - it finally came up! You can have all of this for a price! He stated that this certification from Automax entitles each person who purchases this, lifetime placement with dealerships, ongoing training, and access to John Priest himself for communication! You would also receive some manuals on how to sell cars, and a scheduling tool (book) to schedule appointments with your soon to be clients! The normal price he stated was $549.00, however - the dealership was sponsoring a portion of this so it was reduced to only $299.00! Now, if this was a benefit you would not neccasarily push it - he stated to the group that since they probably don't have any money, to borrow it from someone - it's worth it! This payment would have to be made by Friday morning since he needed to inform the dealership of who was purchasing this or not (why would they care if it's not required, unless those who don't purchase have absolutely no chance of getting a job!) Additionally, we were given the "actual" application for the dealership at this point - which also led me to believe that we would need to go through the entire interview process with the hiring managers, or "HR process" as he called it. Things are now completely adding up!
To further entice everyone in the class, he stated that if everyone was a person of their word, and everyone returned the next day - every person in the class would recieve two free airline tickets! (the link to these promotion tickets is listed on his site, as well as Automax website). On top of this, everyone who purchased the certification would recieve another pair to give to their first customer! I think I saw everyone salivate at this point! I was completely convinced at this point the entire day and process was a sham!
Once home, I did some further research only to find that JKP & Associates, Automax Recruiting, and John Priest have no affilitation with NADA, or any other auto industry organziation what-so-ever! Nor with any training organizations, sales organziations, or recruiting organzations! If this was truely a professional group would they not want affiliations such as this? Most companies have these sort of supports...
Needless to say, I didn't return to get my free plane tickets (can only be used for certain locations and are extremely limited as well - I believe they can only be used by "customers"). When speaking with one other person in the training throughout the day, he mentioned he had interviewed with another dealership down the street (by chance the one that Joh Priest started out in auto sales with) and told them he was attending this training and may not be back. They told him they know all about the training and John Priest - and that he would be back!
In summary, this is a complete waist of time. The entire process is made to weed out those who are unemployed and are persuasive enough to become "Transportation Consultants". Mainly - people John Priest thinks are succeptible enough to buy into his presentation of the wonderful life and support his six-figure income by purchasing a worthless paper stating they are an "Automax Certified Sales Person" (which means nothing to any dealership. He is a sales person, and a good one! Don't buy into his statements or empty promises. These "recruitment and training" events are not sponsored by said dealerships. Call the dealership directly if you want a job - This class deos not teach you anything new if you have been in customer service or sales within the last 4-5 years as I have.
If it's to good to be true, it probably is!
Oregonian2003
Portland, Oregon
U.S.A.
16 Updates & Rebuttals
NuttcasePDX
United States of AmericaSales Training from anyone
#17Consumer Comment
Wed, June 23, 2010
I found it funny that the people in this post that are angry or call John Priest a scammer, didn't get hired or didn't complete the training.
FD
Scottsdale,Arizona,
USA
Why Dealerships do it this way ...
#17General Comment
Sun, February 21, 2010
The dealer(s) are actually the ones paying the recruiting company "AutoMax". How they do this is they have the employee front the money and then give it back to them in 90 days. See, if the dealer paid the recruiter upfront then there would be no reason for the employee to "stick it out" through the first couple of weeks when it is the toughest. I was hired this way with having a monetary investment in my future success. I called it "tough love". Dangling that $500 dollar carrot in front of my nose for the first couple of months to keep me from wanting to quit. This is not a get rich quick job and my first 3 weeks in the biz I hadn't sold a car and wanted to quit but stuck it out to get my $500 back and the rest was history. I've made over a million dollars selling cars and I never would have of if it wasn't done this way (which has been going on in the car biz for over 40 years). If the dealer pays upfront and someone quits in the first week or two, then what did the dealer get out of it? If someone pays the $500, stays 90 days and then gets it back, then what are they out? Nothing! You are not paying to get a job and you are not paying for training. The dealer is, just 90 days later back to you. What you are doing is showing your loyalty to the business that you are fronting the dealers money for the recruiting, advertising, interviewing, training, and placement. If you would of paid your $500 and stuck it out you would have found out that even if the "host" dealer didn't hire you that the recruiter/trainer would have gotten you a job at a different dealer with all of the same stipulations. Why should a dealer take the risk that you might "flake out" on them after they paid thousands of dollars for the newspaper ads, online ads, recruiters expenses, etc. to have you quit on them because you aren't selling 10 cars your first week in the biz and then they have to rerun all of the ads all over again to do it again?! They would rather have these job fairs once a year instead of every couple of weeks because they are very expensive and they want the "committed" person working for them. If they are going to pay for your drivers license test, drug test, background check, sales license, uniforms, etc. then they want you to stay because it really isn't fair for them to give you a chance when you have no experience. So many people say that they are a "man of their word" only to quit, the way to prove it is that money talks. Put yourself in the dealers shoes and realize why this is the only effective way to insure that they retain their employees, basically an "insurance retainer" that you will still be working there, plus what if another dealer see's the ad and sends their sales staff there for free training? Since the bottom line is that you get all of your back as long as you don't "flake out" on them, then essentially it is COSTING YOU NOTHING!! NOT A CENT!! Shame that you didn't see it through to the end and got a job at one of the dealerships and made the money that I and my co-workers have made in a great industry and easy job.
mr fister
dundee,Oregon,
United States of America
The King of Head Games
#17Consumer Comment
Thu, February 04, 2010
I, along with about 20 other victims sat through the mind games and being jerked around by John Priest recently during a career fair for a dealer out in Hillsboro, OR during the month of January 2010.
We spent our time and money for training on how to basically be a door greeter for a dealership. He blinded most of us with his stories of how grand his life is, yada yada, burned us with the Kinkos style certificates with the hefty price of $300.00.
Priest dodged questions, with the grace of an aged running back with a bad knee, about if we were in fact hired by the dealership on several occasions. Each time he either avoided the topic or would say that we already interviewed with the dealership and all we had to do was make it through the 3 day "boot camp" to get the bonus, which was supposed to be a $6,000.00 guarantee over 90 days.
Which means that the dealer wouldn't even let you work a deal and plan on getting paid minimum wage and work 60-70 hours a week without any overtime to make the $2,000.00 for that month.
We never covered how to complete any standard dealer paperwork, how to perform a complete a walk around and demo a vehicle, or even close a deal. His excuse was the dealer would cover that information.
Bottom line is that the dealer doesn't know what to do with us since some of us have no formal experience in selling cars.
Part of Priest's game is that he would not allow anyone with any auto sales experience attend his world class training. Gee, why is that? Because they would laugh their asses off and leave.
However, he didn't take anyone's resumes during the screening "headgames" during the 2 days at the dealership. Well, guess what there are people with experience that sat through this nonsense just to land the job, which we had to interview at least 3 different times and needed to do a "world class walk around" for the general manager of the dealership and sales manager.
Anyone with any type of experience in selling a car would see what a load of bs this is and the airline ticket scam pops up and we could sign up for the low price of only $99.00 a month and if we could get the dealer to sign up for the ticket plan wed get $100.00 for the $499.00 plan and $300.00 if the dealer bought the $995.00 plan.
Really? John do we have a job?
And the whole how many of us own a house, yada yada, angle did happen here too.
Bottom line, the training is a waste of time and anyone could learn as much from reading a book or starting out working at an independent dealership or a brand name company too. Research the makes you want to sell and pick up any books from Zig Ziggler and bang, you just saved yourself $300.00 and a week of listening to his crap.
If you see any of the ads on Craigs list for a job fair promising a great opportunity for becoming a car sales person, ask who the trainer is before wasting your time. Heck, check YouTube to see how full of himself Priest really is and see if you pick up the bs he is putting down.
As he claims in his world class ad, that he doesnt have the music rights to use, I didnt think so!
Somewhere in oregon
gresham,Oregon,
U.S.A.
The Main Post is Legit
#17Consumer Comment
Tue, November 17, 2009
The idiot who posted Caps is Ragin, you need to stfu because you're probably his fugly wife Binging on alcohol or something, This guy is a scammer, done,Barely anyone got Hired.
End of discussion.
Torrey
Mill Creek,Washington,
United States of America
sour grapes
#17Consumer Comment
Mon, November 16, 2009
What a whiner, no wonder he wasn't selected by the dealership.
Let me tell you my story, i also responded to an add for a dealership as described in the original report. I did attend John Priests 3 days of FREE training. I was not selected by the dealership.
I did purchase the certification and extra materials for the $299. And when I went out looking for a new job (with no experience) I proudly gave copies of my certificate of training and a cover story about my positive experience with Mr Priest.
I am now happily working in the car industry and owe much of it to the training and positive attitude presented by John Priest.
All I can say is the original report shows what John Priest said he didn't want to see in his training room, and that was POOR ATTITUDE and this guy has it in spades.
Roy
Scthomas
Glendale,Arizona,
U.S.A.
BULLSH*T
#17UPDATE Employee
Sat, June 20, 2009
UR THE BIGGEST BULLSH*T! JUST BECAUSE U FELT LIKE IT WAS A SCAM AND QUIT, SO U ASSUME IT IS A SCAM? GET THE F*K OUT! HE IS LEGIT! I JUST ATTENDED AND GRAGUATED FROM HIS CLASS TODAY AND GUESS WAT, I'M HIRED! EVERYBODY WERE HIRED! SO EVERYTHING WERE TRUE! SO IF U WOULD HAD STAYED DURING THE SEMINAR, U COULD'VE GOT HIRED! F*KIN TRASH!
Brian7997
Portland,Oregon,
U.S.A.
Not a Scam, but Lacks Clarity and Some Integrity
#17UPDATE EX-employee responds
Thu, March 05, 2009
I went through the John Priest course at Jay Lees Gladstone Nissan/Honda October 2008. My first impression was that it was a little shady with lack of information regarding # of positions and hiring process. I have had experience with less than honest recruiting practices in the past so was very cautious. I was desperate so I continued on. Friday - the graduation day, everyone supposedly got hired and was sent to the different dealerships we would be working at. At the dealership then the sales manager did another quick interview and then I was given the real application and was told to report to HR to finish. Monday 1/2 the people from the class didn't show and no explanation was giving as to why everyone wasn't there on the first day. I heard later that some one didn't pass drug tests or didn't even have a valid drivers license, (great screening I thought).
First I think anyone complaining about the process should understand the risk in hiring a car salesperson with no experience. 3 days of unpaid training even without a guaranteed position is not a big deal. The lose of one sale costs thousands of dollars to a dealership so they are very careful to weed out candidates plus.
John's long winded personal stories are excessive but entertaining his training is top notch and his lessons for selling are worthwhile. I sold 8 cars (mostly splits) my first month during November 2008 but still didn't make more than minimum wage and with terrible leads and no foot traffic there was not prospect of making money.
By the way - You don't get paid for overtime and the training guarantee is your minimum wage pay check that you don't get until sometimes a month after your first day.
DON'T buy the certificate, I thought that by buying it I would show my dedication to the job but many who didn't still got hired.
DON'T worry about the plane tickets either they are basically worthless. Your better off going to a time-share presentation.
MY ADVICE - Selling autos for the first time right now is a bad idea. Low leads and terrible margins on sales will gut your income. On many lots you could sell 10 cars a month and still make min. wage. Hours are terrible and your boss is likely to be emotionally unstable.
It takes a very special breed to do auto sales and sales in general. My biggest regret was wasting $300 to buy that worthless piece of paper.
Brian7997
Portland,Oregon,
U.S.A.
Not a Scam, but Lacks Clarity and Some Integrity
#17UPDATE EX-employee responds
Thu, March 05, 2009
I went through the John Priest course at Jay Lees Gladstone Nissan/Honda October 2008. My first impression was that it was a little shady with lack of information regarding # of positions and hiring process. I have had experience with less than honest recruiting practices in the past so was very cautious. I was desperate so I continued on. Friday - the graduation day, everyone supposedly got hired and was sent to the different dealerships we would be working at. At the dealership then the sales manager did another quick interview and then I was given the real application and was told to report to HR to finish. Monday 1/2 the people from the class didn't show and no explanation was giving as to why everyone wasn't there on the first day. I heard later that some one didn't pass drug tests or didn't even have a valid drivers license, (great screening I thought).
First I think anyone complaining about the process should understand the risk in hiring a car salesperson with no experience. 3 days of unpaid training even without a guaranteed position is not a big deal. The lose of one sale costs thousands of dollars to a dealership so they are very careful to weed out candidates plus.
John's long winded personal stories are excessive but entertaining his training is top notch and his lessons for selling are worthwhile. I sold 8 cars (mostly splits) my first month during November 2008 but still didn't make more than minimum wage and with terrible leads and no foot traffic there was not prospect of making money.
By the way - You don't get paid for overtime and the training guarantee is your minimum wage pay check that you don't get until sometimes a month after your first day.
DON'T buy the certificate, I thought that by buying it I would show my dedication to the job but many who didn't still got hired.
DON'T worry about the plane tickets either they are basically worthless. Your better off going to a time-share presentation.
MY ADVICE - Selling autos for the first time right now is a bad idea. Low leads and terrible margins on sales will gut your income. On many lots you could sell 10 cars a month and still make min. wage. Hours are terrible and your boss is likely to be emotionally unstable.
It takes a very special breed to do auto sales and sales in general. My biggest regret was wasting $300 to buy that worthless piece of paper.
Brian7997
Portland,Oregon,
U.S.A.
Not a Scam, but Lacks Clarity and Some Integrity
#17UPDATE EX-employee responds
Thu, March 05, 2009
I went through the John Priest course at Jay Lees Gladstone Nissan/Honda October 2008. My first impression was that it was a little shady with lack of information regarding # of positions and hiring process. I have had experience with less than honest recruiting practices in the past so was very cautious. I was desperate so I continued on. Friday - the graduation day, everyone supposedly got hired and was sent to the different dealerships we would be working at. At the dealership then the sales manager did another quick interview and then I was given the real application and was told to report to HR to finish. Monday 1/2 the people from the class didn't show and no explanation was giving as to why everyone wasn't there on the first day. I heard later that some one didn't pass drug tests or didn't even have a valid drivers license, (great screening I thought).
First I think anyone complaining about the process should understand the risk in hiring a car salesperson with no experience. 3 days of unpaid training even without a guaranteed position is not a big deal. The lose of one sale costs thousands of dollars to a dealership so they are very careful to weed out candidates plus.
John's long winded personal stories are excessive but entertaining his training is top notch and his lessons for selling are worthwhile. I sold 8 cars (mostly splits) my first month during November 2008 but still didn't make more than minimum wage and with terrible leads and no foot traffic there was not prospect of making money.
By the way - You don't get paid for overtime and the training guarantee is your minimum wage pay check that you don't get until sometimes a month after your first day.
DON'T buy the certificate, I thought that by buying it I would show my dedication to the job but many who didn't still got hired.
DON'T worry about the plane tickets either they are basically worthless. Your better off going to a time-share presentation.
MY ADVICE - Selling autos for the first time right now is a bad idea. Low leads and terrible margins on sales will gut your income. On many lots you could sell 10 cars a month and still make min. wage. Hours are terrible and your boss is likely to be emotionally unstable.
It takes a very special breed to do auto sales and sales in general. My biggest regret was wasting $300 to buy that worthless piece of paper.
Somewhere In Oregon
Salem,Oregon,
U.S.A.
I was there also
#17Consumer Comment
Sun, February 22, 2009
Hmm... I check this site before the last day of the Beaverton Honda location training and the Last Two responses weren't here from the first. I was going to buy the package thingy but saw the report before you guys in the Beaverton Honda . All I can say is the training was:
1.) Shady till the end.
2.)The plane ticket promotion will piss you and your customers off ("don't say it's a dealer thing only a promotion!")
3.)The package diplomas was basically all you had learned in class But in a print out from kinko';The Diplomas didn't have your name which you would have to pay someone to put your name on (worthless). I suggest you go and copy those diplomas to give to people who were in your class because they deserved it!.
4.)No one got a $100 gift certificate to their favorite or any restaurants.
5.)The head people surprised you bascially saying you had to tell your Thursday night homework to everyone and them without it being on schedule.
6.) kept us late on Friday night so some people had to forfeit what they had planned from the initial leave time of 4pm.
7.)The end we were dismissed without respect of the deciders at that auto group and were unprofessional! instead we were outside from the last row up by "name call" and told where we can go to get a position on "oh sat or sun" but chnaged to never mind "monday" @ this so and so locations.
Kinda like that that on a successful salesman notes right?
Well anyways we were there 3 days and they only picked the people who were smooth talkers, anyone of us would be smooth talkers to a customer but with respect of course and stuck with the program, But the way they did it was seeing if you would choke in front of people(s) and too many peoples! which is I don't give a crap about it, I never did good in front of peoples since i rarely had to and if i did I would choke! point is I'm not trying to be their company rep who gives speeches about the company in front of thousands and getting interviewed for that position! I'm new at this and had no Experience which was what they were looking for. The job ad was misleading; for not everyone to get that position and the 6k guarantee.
Go to Kinkos and copy that certificate for back up and do whatever because it basically is pocket change for the provider making 6 figure digits.
Point to the matter is monday whoever see's this thats been in his class @ beaverton honda post up! if you got the position where he provided to us since we didn't get selected by beaverton honda post it here, even if you didn't Remember the words "Fantasic" and "Fair Enough" it's going to be either be a good or a bad thing mentally.
Pessimist
West Linn,Oregon,
U.S.A.
John Priest will lie to your face.
#17Consumer Suggestion
Sat, February 21, 2009
My wife attended a John Priest training seminar at Bob Lamphere Honda in Beaverton, Oregon. When she got home after the first day, she Googled his name and was overwhelmed by all the negative stories.
There were fifty people in her class, and John seemed to be suggesting that there were job openings for all of them. RipoffReport confirmed the ridiculousness of this idea, but she decided the training was worth it, even if it didn't lead to a job offer.
On the second day, she asked him directly, "When do we have the actual interviews with Honda?"
John acted confused and responded, "What are you talking about? This is your job interview."
She asked him, "So when will we know that we are hired?"
He answered reassuringly, "Tomorrow, you will all be placed."
She felt good about that.
At the very, very end of the third day, after John had sold his diplomas for $300 apiece, he finally announced that everyone would now be completing the Honda applications. They filed the paperwork, the general managers filed in, and everyone performed a "Hire me" speech in front of the group.
The managers and John then left the room for an hour and a half. When the returned, they broke people into groups and gave them the bad news that there were not enough openings for all of them.
Fifty people had given up three full days, fuel costs, and possibly paid $300, under the impression that they were being hired by Honda. Fewer than ten landed positions.
Pessimist
West Linn,Oregon,
U.S.A.
John Priest will lie to your face.
#17Consumer Suggestion
Sat, February 21, 2009
My wife attended a John Priest training seminar at Bob Lamphere Honda in Beaverton, Oregon. When she got home after the first day, she Googled his name and was overwhelmed by all the negative stories.
There were fifty people in her class, and John seemed to be suggesting that there were job openings for all of them. RipoffReport confirmed the ridiculousness of this idea, but she decided the training was worth it, even if it didn't lead to a job offer.
On the second day, she asked him directly, "When do we have the actual interviews with Honda?"
John acted confused and responded, "What are you talking about? This is your job interview."
She asked him, "So when will we know that we are hired?"
He answered reassuringly, "Tomorrow, you will all be placed."
She felt good about that.
At the very, very end of the third day, after John had sold his diplomas for $300 apiece, he finally announced that everyone would now be completing the Honda applications. They filed the paperwork, the general managers filed in, and everyone performed a "Hire me" speech in front of the group.
The managers and John then left the room for an hour and a half. When the returned, they broke people into groups and gave them the bad news that there were not enough openings for all of them.
Fifty people had given up three full days, fuel costs, and possibly paid $300, under the impression that they were being hired by Honda. Fewer than ten landed positions.
Pessimist
West Linn,Oregon,
U.S.A.
John Priest will lie to your face.
#17Consumer Suggestion
Sat, February 21, 2009
My wife attended a John Priest training seminar at Bob Lamphere Honda in Beaverton, Oregon. When she got home after the first day, she Googled his name and was overwhelmed by all the negative stories.
There were fifty people in her class, and John seemed to be suggesting that there were job openings for all of them. RipoffReport confirmed the ridiculousness of this idea, but she decided the training was worth it, even if it didn't lead to a job offer.
On the second day, she asked him directly, "When do we have the actual interviews with Honda?"
John acted confused and responded, "What are you talking about? This is your job interview."
She asked him, "So when will we know that we are hired?"
He answered reassuringly, "Tomorrow, you will all be placed."
She felt good about that.
At the very, very end of the third day, after John had sold his diplomas for $300 apiece, he finally announced that everyone would now be completing the Honda applications. They filed the paperwork, the general managers filed in, and everyone performed a "Hire me" speech in front of the group.
The managers and John then left the room for an hour and a half. When the returned, they broke people into groups and gave them the bad news that there were not enough openings for all of them.
Fifty people had given up three full days, fuel costs, and possibly paid $300, under the impression that they were being hired by Honda. Fewer than ten landed positions.
Pessimist
West Linn,Oregon,
U.S.A.
John Priest will lie to your face.
#17Consumer Suggestion
Sat, February 21, 2009
My wife attended a John Priest training seminar at Bob Lamphere Honda in Beaverton, Oregon. When she got home after the first day, she Googled his name and was overwhelmed by all the negative stories.
There were fifty people in her class, and John seemed to be suggesting that there were job openings for all of them. RipoffReport confirmed the ridiculousness of this idea, but she decided the training was worth it, even if it didn't lead to a job offer.
On the second day, she asked him directly, "When do we have the actual interviews with Honda?"
John acted confused and responded, "What are you talking about? This is your job interview."
She asked him, "So when will we know that we are hired?"
He answered reassuringly, "Tomorrow, you will all be placed."
She felt good about that.
At the very, very end of the third day, after John had sold his diplomas for $300 apiece, he finally announced that everyone would now be completing the Honda applications. They filed the paperwork, the general managers filed in, and everyone performed a "Hire me" speech in front of the group.
The managers and John then left the room for an hour and a half. When the returned, they broke people into groups and gave them the bad news that there were not enough openings for all of them.
Fifty people had given up three full days, fuel costs, and possibly paid $300, under the impression that they were being hired by Honda. Fewer than ten landed positions.
Family2004
Vancouver,Washington,
U.S.A.
My husband works for Bob Lanphere Honda--John Priest IS legitimate! He's the Best!
#17UPDATE Employee
Sat, February 21, 2009
I have been in sales for about 15 years. I have been privvy to hear from the best of the best in sales. First of all, why would any dealership allow a scam artist to come and train for them their employees? Why is John Priest invited to Weston, Bob Lanphere and all over the country? He is the BEST at what he does-THAT is why! Before my husband became employed there, he couldn't close a deal for the life of him. He came away from that 3 day training with SO many great ideas and the best training. Just by what I had seen from his notes-I could tell that he was getting superior sales training. For the record, the best sales trainers in the country or world for that matter are PAID for training. It is not uncommon to pay for sales training-in fact I would rather pay for excellent training than get average training for FREE. P.s. the dealership pays for half the training initially and then they will reimburse your portion after your 90 days. Also, you are NOT obligated to pay for it at all. He tells you that as well. If you have questions or concerns, talk to the GM or GSM! Again, if this was a scam then WHY would the dealerships allow him to come and train employees?
I am thankful to John Priest and all of the knowledge he has shared with my husband. Our family is better off for it.
Mom2gabeandhope
Milwaukie,Oregon,
U.S.A.
My Husband is Employed by Weston Pontiac GMC and Buick
#17Consumer Comment
Mon, April 21, 2008
I just wanted to let everybody know that despite what is stated in the report good has come of this "Pre Interview Process" My husband went through this same process, in fact it was at the same time. Despite what the write or the report stated, my husband was employed at another company at this time. He went through the initial training and everything was great. Despite what the author said, you were by no means required to purchase the product that John Priest was selling. We didn't and my husband has a wonderful job at the Weston dealership. Please do not take to heart what the author has said. I really appreciate what John Priest did for our family!!