Complaint Review: jonathan hay michael (bentley) barber michael smith

I did read your terms, and despite your claims that you won't remove the comment for a price, you will remove the comment for a price.

http://www.ripoffreport.com/Arbitration.aspx

It states that even if we prove to you that this person is 100% a con artist, who paid us via stolen credit cards, was on probation for fraud, and we still have documented work with this person, we have to pay you $2,000.00 dollars to have it removed.

It also states that the person who files this, doesn't have to provide proof. 

So please explain to me again how that isn't your website extorting people? 

Now you mention the 1st Amendenment, and I think your understanding of what this means....

Under law Defamation is:

"Defamation law attempts to balance the freedom of speech and open exchange of ideas without giving someone permission to run around spreading lies about another that may harm his or her reputation, ability to earn a living, etc. Note that the expression of an opinion can never be actionable as defamation; statements must be presented as fact to be considered defamation."

Now to dig deeper into that law and to understand what 'libel' means:

Defamation is a statement that may harm someone's reputation. If it is written down, it's called "libel" whereas if it's spoken, it's called "slander." 

Ok so this is written down and written on your website. Libel.

Now obviously the expression of an opinion can't be held accountable, but this website is taking that person's opinion and making it seem like it is a fact with no proof only one person's word.

So in all reality, the person isn't even committiing a crime, they are just stating their opinion or in this case a lie, which probably happens a lot. But you the company are reporting it is a FACT.

From my knowledge you didn't contact anybody at the company. You just put up what that person wrote, and in order for it to be removed not only do we have to prove it is false, we have to pay the fee. 

Now as for the person who wrote this, who again is delusional, a known con artist, has convictions on his record that I can link to if needed, and under what I have been told recently, he is working for a competing company. 

But again, if I send you over the information of what company he is working for/interning for to get a job, we still have to pay $2,000.00 to have this report removed?

There is ZERO justice in this, and no accountabiity with this person at all. 

The amount of money he is claiming is wrong, the work that was done isn't listed, and he paid with stolen credit cards for 50% of what he did pay.

End of discussion.

The person filing this report is a known con artist who was recently let off of probation for forgery. Even his claims are outlandish. This person knows what he paid for and exactly what he was getting. He had stolen material which in this case he tried to knock off as his own material, and he didn't understand the simple basics of the music industry. We had to start at ground zero with him and when we looked back at 4 years of work and realized we had spent 3 times as much as this delusional person, we had to cut our losses. He also claims that Sean Breed paid "$10,000.00 dollars, a claim that even Sean Breed would deny. 

This report should be taken down as the person file it is a known con artist, who paid for services using stolen credit cards, and he was charge and convicted of such crimes. Now in an attempt to slander people online he is able to make an account on this website and try to validate his claims. 

The whole world knows if this person was serious claims would be made in court. He isn't. This website is a extortion site. They will take down claims for money, but put up claims with no facts. There should be a ripoff report for ripoffreport

EDITOR’S Comment to statements made about Ripoff Report: 
Ripoff Report strongly believes in the First Amendment, even when it is about us.  We understand that people who have complaints written about them are upset and want to place blame somewhere, especially if they feel the content of the Reports are false.  We also understand that individuals want to blame our website rather than where it belongs – on the person who wrote the Reports in the first place.  Using the same method that we provide FREE OF CHARGE to all of our users, we would like to “set the record straight” as to the comments posted about our website through this Rebuttal.  Every user of our website has the opportunity to tell their side of the story, for free, just as we will do here.  We certainly encourage users to “set the record straight” and tell their side of the story by using the free methods available to them before they consider other Ripoff Report programs (such as our VIP Arbitration Program or the Corporate Advocacy Program) or alterative avenues (such as filing a lawsuit against the Author of the report) that cost money.

 The Author of this report is incorrect in saying that Ripoff Report will remove a Report for $2,000, or for any amount of money for that matter.  Ripoff Report has always had a uniform policy of NOT REMOVING Reports.  Ripoff Report is a permanent Record.

Our policy can be viewed on our website by clicking HERE.   $2,000 is the cost of Ripoff Report's VIP Arbitration Program - a program that (((REDACTS))) only challenged statements of facts in a Report that are found to be to be false after presentation of evidence to an independent arbitrator.  Even in that instance, the Report is not removed. Only challenged statements of fact that are found to be false by the arbitrator will be (((REDACTED))).  Again, to be clear, Ripoff Report will not remove Reports for money and any information to the contrary is simply not accurate.  To understand the full context of our Arbitration Program, we invite you to review all of the applicable information, including the Program Rules, by visiting our arbitration webpage at http://www.ripoffreport.com/Arbitration.aspx.

 We thank you for taking the time to read this Rebuttal and allowing us to “set the record straight.”

Ripoff Report Staff