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Kasamba.com - Robin Blue Dragon - Rev Staci and friends ripoff, major psychic rip offs. Internet
I had recently went to see some well named psychics on this site. I found the site is self to be wonder and most of the people I saw where accurate and helpful. I did have some encounters with a few that just up set me.
A man named Robin Blue Dragon read for me and he typed very slow and then informed me I had a curse on me. If i gave him three thousand dollars off site he would rid me off this by doing spells. I do not beleive in such things.
Then I went to a woman named Rev Staci ; she claimed to connect with my mother. The problem was she asked for birth dates, death dates and locations. Then all she could tell me was the stuff that was on her death certicate!
I have only had problems with two ofther experts here in the past. Amber and another named Melodie or melody I beleive her name was. they both used astrology down loads to do my reading. they told me so but I woukd have rathered they do the work themself and it wasnt very accurate.
if you go to this site check the people out first and if you want to save yoru money dont go to the ones I mentioned!
Dawn
Branson, Missouri
U.S.A.
101 Updates & Rebuttals
Erik
pittsfield,Massachusetts,
U.S.A.
You dont know a thing
#102UPDATE Employee
Sat, June 05, 2010
I have been offering a refund for anyone with a transaction number and a valid complaint for years now and NOT ONCE has anyone asked for one.
The person writting above doesnt know a thing about me or KU,which was closed several years ago when MSN changed their system and eliminated the groups.
Once more all I see are jealous readers and angry ex -readers I helped to get removed for CHEATING CLIENTS,,,which last I checked wasnt anything bad or something to be ashamed of.
I wish some of you people would stop the slander,its just so unbecoming,and look at facts for a change.
Bluedragon 3092 positive ratings
Refunds - 0
Melissa Ratcliffe
Rockford,Illinois,
U.S.A.
This is all true
#102UPDATE Employee
Fri, October 19, 2007
Please everyone know that this is all true information. Robin BlueDragon is a scammer and fraud as are the rest of this "Utopian society"
Melissa Ratcliffe
Rockford,Illinois,
U.S.A.
This is all true
#102UPDATE Employee
Fri, October 19, 2007
Please everyone know that this is all true information. Robin BlueDragon is a scammer and fraud as are the rest of this "Utopian society"
Melissa Ratcliffe
Rockford,Illinois,
U.S.A.
This is all true
#102UPDATE Employee
Fri, October 19, 2007
Please everyone know that this is all true information. Robin BlueDragon is a scammer and fraud as are the rest of this "Utopian society"
Melissa Ratcliffe
Rockford,Illinois,
U.S.A.
This is all true
#102UPDATE Employee
Fri, October 19, 2007
Please everyone know that this is all true information. Robin BlueDragon is a scammer and fraud as are the rest of this "Utopian society"
Chris
Grand Junction,Colorado,
U.S.A.
Come on "psychics" answer up!!
#102Consumer Suggestion
Thu, May 03, 2007
I asked this before but the "psychics" ignored me as they always do when it comes to logic. Here is a copy of my previous posting:
A question to all the "psyhcics" who are posting on this hilarious thread.
You claim to be great at reading peoples futures, speaking with the dead, ect. You must have incredible "supernatural" powers.
Why is it that none of you could forsee these events?
It seems to me that any decent "psychic" should have been aware that this was upcoming and done things to prevent it. It seems to be a major disruption to many lives.
Is it possible that "psychic" powers are nothing more than another way to scam people out of their money? These people with "supernatural" powers posess nothing but an ability to tell people what they want to hear. They have the "power" to quickly reduce your bank account.
CONSUMERS! Look at all of the crap in this thread and ask yourself - would you trust any of these "psychic's" to help you with a problem? They can't even help themselves!
SO CALLED "PSYCHICS" - readers want an answer to this question!
J
Athens,Ohio,
U.S.A.
WOW
#102Consumer Suggestion
Thu, May 03, 2007
Kasamba should kick all of you off of there for giving the company a bad name. What are you all in High School? He said, She said... Maybe if enough people wrote to Kasamba and complained about these posts they would "clean up"
Katherine
London,Europe,
United Kingdom
And another thing...
#102Consumer Comment
Sun, April 29, 2007
Really it came to my mind some of the comments you have made about yourselves here.
You miss. babson or clark or what you call yourself, so what if you have more ratings than someone else. Maybe you need to know from a client you look like you are saying, my daddy's better than yours, or I am better than so and so because my a*s is bigger.
As for you melody, you sound as if you couldn't get it together to run a bath let alone have a successful website.
And robin you a felon trying to tell everyone who is crooked or not, made me laugh out loud. Looks like your own friend ratted on you. You're all a bunch of prattling moaners turning everyone off your own site where you work, what idiots you've shown yourselves to be.
Bunch of kids, 'he started it, she started it' sound familliar? Again I am amazed you have the audacity to think you can guide anyone to anything the way you conduct your own lives and business is a shambles, I'm going to keen or wherever you lot are not.
Katherine
London,Europe,
United Kingdom
Crazy psychics
#102Consumer Comment
Sun, April 29, 2007
I am a customer of Kasamba and I am truly shocked at how you psychics are behaving.
You all look useless to be attacking eachother like this. How can you dare to give out guidance when you behave like this?
Why is it you are saying a psychic must be scamming just because they don't ask questions of clients before giving information. Doesn't that prove they are psychic and you are all faking it and trying to get information first so as to disguise your own ingorance.
I wouldn't go to anyone mentioned in this report as you've all proved yourselves to be childish and nasty tempered. I will just stick with anyone else on kasamba not mentioned here or attacking other experts, and that's MY guidance to all my fellow clients. Why do you need questions of dates of birth if you are psychic you should know who is underage or not.
useless the lot of you, shame on you all for postering your bickering nonesense here.
Alicia
Indianapolis,Indiana,
U.S.A.
Positive Kasamba Experience
#102Consumer Comment
Wed, April 25, 2007
I recently responded to another RipOff Report (btw, thanks ROR for this site) regarding Penny Clark Babson. I posted of my experience (quite negative) with her. I then began recieving Nasty Vile Disgusting instant messages from her as well as emails. This woman is completely unstable, vile, unbalanced, and a LIAR! I suggest anyone that want a real reading, something that makes sense, isn't a complete and total rip off of time and money, NOT use Penny Clark Babson. I would like to say that I have tried another Kasamba expert and had much much better luck; Thanks Melodie.
Not everyone on Kasamba is a fake like Ms. Babson. Just be choosy. Those that charge the most are not necessarily the best. In my humble opinion, Kasamba is losing a lot of face by allowing this woman to continue to be a represenative of their site.
Geniune And Experienced
Plant Earth,Other,
Togo
SO HORRIBLE IN HERE
#102UPDATE Employee
Fri, January 12, 2007
I've ploughed thru all this thread - and i must say - it is truly terrifying !
If the paste(s) of logs posted are correct then can i implore the kasamba client to do something LEGAL about them. They are surely illegal under the laws of any country - and there surely is a representative body or person who these complaints can be aired with ?
I find it terrifying indeed that these high profile kasamba psychics can post such vehement diatribes towards each other.
And I also believe that if Kasamba were a better working environment then this might not be possible.
That's my little say for now, May you all find inner Peace in your hearts.
Robin
Tiro,Ohio,
U.S.A.
oh and regarding birthdates....
#102UPDATE Employee
Sat, December 02, 2006
...if indeed you are an expert,....which I doubt and hasnt been shown that you know anything correct anyway....then you would also know that it is against Kasamba policy to read for underaged clients. That itself is as good a reason as any for asking for a birthdate.
Not to mention astrology and numerology....so please,before you claim to be so all knowing,look up facts and see what is what.
Anyone who has even been to me once know I am not a thing like these attacks posted on this pathetic site...where nothing but allegations are made with no evidence to back it up by people posting over and over under fake names anonymously. My working name is Robin Bluedragon...has been for many years and is a name given to me by the person who initiated me into wicca. And anyone who knows anything about wicca,which you apparently dont,would have a better grasp of the reality of spellwork too. Try posting some facts and some evidence and some thing other then specualtive allegations next time,clown.I give hundreds of hours each month to my clients,and do alot of good.I am sorry if you dont but that is not my fault. You should make more effort to do better work and less effort attacking people trying to help others.
Oh and like I said,I turn down more spellwork then I take ....most people are like you and think it works like in Harry Potter or something,and expect these bloody miracles..you would probabaly be that way yourself from the sound of it. Magick isnt going to make you invisible,make Johnny Depp fall in love with you,or anything else nonsensical like that. And I never once have ever claimed it would. So wherever you get your info from you should re-check the FACTS....or just learn what the word means.
Good luck to you and blessed be!
Robin
Tiro,Ohio,
U.S.A.
funny thing
#102UPDATE Employee
Sat, December 02, 2006
when I google your name,I get a woman who is a female escort in seatle...now why should anyone pay attention to that ? You dont know truth,you have nothing showing any wrong doing,and you are just a stalking criminal.
Jaden
Seattle,Washington,
U.S.A.
You know nothing about the truth, Robin BlueDragon
#102UPDATE Employee
Sat, December 02, 2006
I had posted a response to you on another item here but want it clear on this one as well.
Only Astrologers legitimately need birthdates but a birthdate by itself is useless information. You need place and time of birth as well in order to do an accurate chart.
I have printscreens from KU and have seen what goes on there. Lie all you want. The truth is catching up with you.
Robin
Tiro,Ohio,
U.S.A.
Jaden,whoever you are,stop lying
#102UPDATE Employee
Wed, November 29, 2006
You werent in KU and would know nothing about it...if you were in it you were removed for actions unbecoming an expert who is to supposed to be ethical. We do not share info about clients in KU,thats absurd. Just another unsubstantiated lie.
Some of the advice you give is rediculous at best. How is a person to do a numerological spread without a persons full names and birthdates? An astrologer cant just assume someone was born at such and such a time on aparticular date...get real. Those are lame rules for the paranoid fueled by someone apparently obsessed with attacking people she doesnt even know.
I feel sorry for all the clients who may come here reading this crap,and get the wrong idea about Kasamba...or in a decent expert group like KU which is nothing but a support group for readers...yes we need some time to look at ourselves too. There are plenty of groups out there who do share info,however KU isnt one of them and never will be as it is about being an ETHICAL READER and playing fairly with the clients...as anyone who has been to one of us would know.
Grow up get a life and stop lying to the people,you will eventually be seen for the fraud you are.
Jaden
Seattle,Washington,
U.S.A.
The ugly truth!
#102UPDATE Employee
Wed, November 29, 2006
I can't use my real ID here for obvious reasons but want to go on record saying that a lot of the allegations are absolutely true. Many of the psychics on Kasamba are FAKE. Let me change that to MOST of the psychics.
The MSN Utopia group run by Robin is as alleged. The "psychics" there do share confidential information about clients. Many of the psychics on Kasamba have multiple identities, which is why they are able to wow you with accurate readings the first few times. Edith O'Leary is not an old lady. Ru the Sorcerer is not an old asian man. Most of the photos are fake. Most of these women are stay-at-home moms trying to make a buck off of lonely desperate needy people. With all that said - there truly are some genuine psychics. FEW are on Kasamba. Notice how much info you have to give them first. If they want more than a first name - RUN.
Do not give DOB. Do not tell them squat. If they speak in generalities, forget it. The reason a lot of readers are charging so much money is due to Kasamba taking a big chunk (almost 50%). And as Kasamba lets more and more fake psychics sign up, it dilutes the client pool and makes it harder for the genuine advisors to earn a living. Plus Kasamba ranks advisors based on their price, earnings, repeat clientele, etc. It's disgusting all the way around.
Judge a good advisor by whether they spend a lot of time with you for free, and aren't about earning a buck. Even if they're expensive, many spend a lot of free time with you. Judge them by not just accuracy of predictions, but insight that goes beyond the general. If they pick up on real information without prompting from you, or they make a prediction that comes true, stick with them. Don't hop from one to another. I will not enable addicted clients and often advise them to stop calling psychics and save their money. I feel bad sometimes having them click hire because I know they've been scammed by so many before they got to me. And yet I do need to earn a living and if I turn them away, they'll just go to one of the frauds. So I have a real dilemma.
I have been on both sides, by the way. I was a client and yes, was addicted, spent thousands on b.s. readings that never came true! It makes me sick to think that I fell for it. Many psychics told me I had a gift. I thought they were lying, but figured I'd recoup my losses by signing up as a psychic. Imagine my surprise when my predictions started coming true and I found I did have a gift. I am by no means the best psychic in the world. But I am not a fake. I do not lie to keep clients coming back. I have few repeat clients because I want to never hear from them again, hoping they'll not be addicted anymore.
Most of the frauds listed on other posts, truly are frauds. Unfortunately.
For the system to change, it would require a massive overhaul and unfortunately, the things that make money are porn, psychic hotlines and dating sites. Everyone is lonely and scared. And they become willing prey to this stuff.
Chris
Grand Junction,Colorado,
U.S.A.
Why didnt psychics see this coming ........
#102Consumer Suggestion
Mon, November 27, 2006
A question to all the "psyhcics" who are posting on this hilarious thread.
You claim to be great at reading peoples futures, speaking with the dead, ect. You must have incredible "supernatural" powers.
Why is it that none of you could forsee these events?
It seems to me that any decent "psychic" should have been aware that this was upcoming and done things to prevent it. It seems to be a major disruption to many lives.
Is it possible that "psychic" powers are nothing more than another way to scam people out of their money? These people with "supernatural" powers posess nothing but an ability to tell people what they want to hear. They have the "power" to quickly reduce your bank account.
CONSUMERS! Look at all of the crap in this thread and ask yourself - would you trust any of these "psychic's" to help you with a problem? They can't even help themselves!
Robin
Tiro,Ohio,
U.S.A.
more lies,nothing to back up or prove a thing...
#102UPDATE Employee
Mon, November 27, 2006
...continued garbage from people who dont know squat as usual...and to think people paid you folks for advice,and in some cases,still do!
That is not me you are refering to,I was not living in NC at that point in my life,I dont live in New Washington Ohio,I have never been charged or convicted of ANYTHING....thats slander by the way,you scammers who are posting this nonsense. It is no ones business what my real name is...John Waynes name wasnt John Wayne,mine isnt Robin or Bluedragon...but again that is my business. Cher isnt named Cher either,nor Prince, Prince. and the list goes on. People who need to know my name know it...you folks have some poor fellow running him into the ground ...again with no evidence other then the say so of pathological liars that you are....which anyone with as much brains as a chicken would instantly discard as insufficient.
I find it amusing now that you are still, after 8 months , STILL attacking me and others who are both honest and ethical on this particular site. I dont see any of you posting YOUR real names..in fact many of you dont seem to know your names as you keep switching them back and forth. At least one of you has used around 8 aliases on these threads,in fact...so lets not be calling the kettle black.
Grow up move on and find someone else to harrass...my business isnt hurt by this nonsense,since any client I would take has enough common sense to know BS when they smell it...and anyone who has ever been to me knows that I dont treat people like you make it out ...agaiin,since you are using your limited imaginations,and probably dipping into how YOU treated clients,well,I guess no one should expect much anyway.
You are at fault for doing the things you did,not me for turning you in for ripping people off. If Kasamba had not had proof from others as welll as from clients I am sure they would not have booted you off...but they did,you were,so move on and stop trying to screw with me...it isnt working and my business gets better with each satisfied client.
Blessed be!
Ann
Limon,Colorado,
U.S.A.
Robin Bluegrass is Robin ford!
#102Consumer Suggestion
Mon, November 20, 2006
Aas a reader of these threads you must always wonder if what is posted is true.. so I went in search for myself.. and well yes I have looked up the report of Robin ford.. aka robin bluegrass however there was no photo.. but thru google of both names together I found that they are one and the same you can see for yourself here
(( link redacted by ROR))
just thought I'd confirm that
Patti
Madison,Wisconsin,
U.S.A.
Why did Erik of Pittsfield, MA post for Robin Bluedragon?
#102UPDATE EX-employee responds
Mon, November 20, 2006
If posting under other names is unacceptable and infers unethical behavior, why is Robin BlueDragon posting as Erik of Pittsfield, Massachussetts? Unethical behavior abounds on all sides and there's the proof.
All of you are accusing each other of unethical behavior. You all attack each other and then say it's self defense or you're to protect the clients. On the rare occassion a client is ripped off, has it occurred to any one of you that the karma of these situations are out of your control? Or that the client can contact the proper authorities themselves? That the reason the client is telling you (if they're telling you at all and all of you are not making it up as ammunition to feed this war) that they were ripped off was to gain sympathy for a freebie?
All of you fall all over yourselves explaining yourselves, trying to dispell lies and tell lies about others. This only serves to make you look more guilty.
None of you have any influence or control. The only power any of you have is to create and feed all this negative energy and it's all any of you do. Here, the message boards and it effects the energy of Kasamba itself.
All negative energy is fear based and all of you are based in fear. You're all caught in this web of negative energy like flies in a spider's web.
Break free. Resign from those message boards, lose phone numbers and e-mail addresses, close your message programs, change the subject, focus on your families, yourselves, your business, your clients.
Toni
Jenera,Ohio,
U.S.A.
wow what gets me about this Robin.
#102Consumer Comment
Fri, November 17, 2006
Its funny when you live some where how many people you can make hate you and when our old pal in NC told me you had moved to Ohio I said good bye to bad trash .
But they these pages get poited out to me and I have to laugh.
Now I went into this place you work and on your line next to your picture you have posted
"The most honest,ethical & caring reader you will find anywhere! The #1 spellcaster on Kasamba! I have helped 1000s on this site,let me help you too!"
I mean here is the link
http://www.kasamba.com/Advice/VirtualOffice/ViewExpert.aspx?conMemID=54904&catid=1143
But What I dont get is why you lie. First off your name isnt Robin BlueDragon. Its Robin Ford.
And you are a convicted felon!! You tried to steal money from the Employment Security Commission in ohio and was arrested.
here is the notice on that arrest
"Robin William Ford, 46, of 121 McAlister St., Asheboro, was arrested and charged Wednesday with misrepresentation to obtain Employment Security Commission benefits."
So you tried to fraud money you were not to have. And got arrest and charged.
Then you moved next to your new little flame in Ohio. Taking $800.00 of my money with you. So now you live next store to Nicola Dye ( nicola on kasamba) and her husband Norman on main street in E washingtion ohio and you think that your felon past will not catch up with you!!!
You are so fast to point out every one elses short comings you have forgotten your not a mystical magic insught. Your a fraud and a con!
why the hell should these people who do not know you listen to you. I have known you for years. My family has helped your behind so many times we own stock in you by now and i know not to trust you.
YOu need to get off this self rightous kick your on!
I have been reading these post. They are to funny. One thing you forget is we are all human but do not go around coming across like you some higher being when your a convicted felon who has stolen money!!
Erik
Pittsfield,Massachusetts,
U.S.A.
More nonsense,and more lies....dont you people have any real lives?
#102UPDATE Employee
Mon, October 30, 2006
I plan to keep trying to shut down scammers on the site,too,there,'Monica'...why dont you print your real name for a change and stop hiding behind aliases in places you dont live? Is it arrogant to want to work on an honest site,and to see experts stop trying to pull the wool over clients eyes? Is it arrogant to think people should not be padding their rates,some on into the 1000s of pads alone,so that a client can get an honest assesment of a readers skills,rather then how well they tell the same person over and over what they want to hear? Is it arrogant to think clients dont want to be scammed,lied to and other wise ripped off? If so then I am arrogant,and I think clients should be too,if it keeps them safe and ffree from these sort of crooks and con artists.
Anyone who ever had a reading by me knows that I dont set rules,I dont grill anyone about fraud (unless they bring it up,and then I only want to know what I can do to help the client who got screwed over by the expert),and I got news for you,it IS my business,and every other ethical and honest expert on Kasamba to make sure that those who are scamming and cheating are called on the carpet for it and hopefully removed from the site.
Sure,any expert who has been on as long as I have has some multiple dips...never said I didnt. And if Kasamba wants to remove them,across the board from all experts,they are more then welcome to take mine,as long as they do it to every one else. It would benefit me more then I can say if they did that because some experts,who have 1000s of dips like that,would not only lose their placement on the front pages,but also their 5 star ranks,since the only thing giving them that is all their padding. I have less then 8% of my total rates from multiple dips..and can show you experts on the front pages with 50% or better.Yes,I have tried to work with Kasamba and get the rate system changes for 2 years,because it sucks,frankly...if it allows experts to misrepresent themselves through padding like this somethign is bad wrong with it. They say they will,but they havent,because clients dopnt take the time to write them and let them know how they feel. It would be one of the best things the site coudl do in my ipinion. And the only ones who ever complain about Kasamba taking away the dips and padding are the ones MOST GUILTY OF IT....coincidence? I doubt it.
Since you dont know a thing about any group,I will ignore those false accusations. I belong to no group that shares client info,and would not belong to one....that is something that the unethical people who have been kicked off Kasamba always say,but not a one ever posts a single realistic scrap of real prooof of any of that. And since sites like this one dont check to see if anything is even remotely based on facts,or is speculation instead,it all somehow looks legitimate. The internet is the only forum where someone gets tried for things based on speculation anyway....
I don tknow where you think I live,but it isnt correct. Not that I care where you think I live,except it shows an unhealthy stalker mentality and I will be aksing the police to look into this matter. I havent lived in New Washington in years...and my IP and Nicola's are NOT the same as we dont live in the same area,just more lies,this time trying to hurt someone who hasnt even to my knowledge read these posts in this site. Just more allegations with no PROOF ,rumours made to slander and libel.
I dont know of Katharine being suspended,and feel that is a lie as well. More slandder to the pile but when you are a half wit and armed with half truths about things you half understand,I guuess you feel like you know something. You should really try getting your facts together some time and making sure they are at least close to accurate. And my personal business has nothing to do with you or anyone else in here...I dont ask nor care about yours,you should stop mudslinging.....and inaccurately at that....and find some real basis for what you post. Or better yet,just stop cheating clients and trying to do a better job of things.
As for my picture,it is my picutr,e thogh several years old. I will check that site you mentioned to see if they are using it improperly,as it is a copyrighted entity.
Oh and the person who posted as "Dawn",I have never had a lcient like that,I do NOT tell anyone they are cursed,and have many times told clients there are no such things as curses,because as a wiccan I dont believe in such nonsense. It is something con artists tell clients to make them hire them and to frighten them to milk them from their money. But 'Dawn' already knows that as she would be aware of a world FAMOUSE reader I believe...oh wait,they are the same person. And 3000 for a spell,I dont think so! My highest priced spell is 100 dolalrs,the con artists might sell them for 3000 but you wojnt find a bit of proof to show I ever charged anyone more then 100 dollars for spellwork I spend hours doing. Again,more false allegations and lies with no proof and another lame excuse for this expert to attack myself,Melodie and Staci...simply because we want to see the site run honestly and on the up and up. Its a shame they cant screw people over and make the money they do,isnt it..I feel so sorry for all you crooks and ocn artists and scammers.....NOT!
Now please,get a life,stop lying and slandering people for no reason except you are afraid you will get kicked off the site for cheating,and try to actually do what you claim you can fairly and ethically. And please,'Monica',try showing us YOUR real picture and your working name next time,so you can possibly have a little crediability or not,and stop hiding behind the aliases you use...no one believes them,not even the ones you make up to try and make it look like someone agrees with you,that is the funniest and most pathetic things I hhave ever seen. Brightest blessings and I hope you get the help you truly need. And I know who lives in Missouri,too....you arent fooling anyone but yourself. Blessed be!
Bluedragon
Monica
Independence,Missouri,
U.S.A.
ROBIN BLUE DRAGON: Kasamba's Fraud Cop!
#102UPDATE Employee
Thu, October 26, 2006
When will this man's arrogance end? For almost two years he's been targeting other readers he's deemed are committing fraud on Kasamba. Recently, he's even enlisted a client to help him troll other readers for fraud reports, meanwhile he's charging almost ten dollars a minute for a reading.
Anyone who has ever had a reading with Robin knows how he operates. He first dictates a set of "rules" to the client and then grills them about fraud and tries to find out who else they've had readings with. Guess what, Robin? That's none of your business! The great part about all this is that Robin does not know that clients he's done this to complain to other readers about his behaviour. Word gets around.
The other humour in all this is that Robin threatens to ban people from his little drama infested group on MSN if they "double dip". Check Robin's Kasamba ratings sometime. He has numerous double and triple dips. In Robin's world, there are two different sets of rules. There are the rules Robin thinks everyone else should follow and then there are the rules he follows. Robin's group also discusses private client information and has a list of clients that are considered a difficult, with all their personal details.
By the way Robin, how is Nicola? Why is it that you both have the same IP address on your emails? The IP is from New Washington, Ohio? You deny that you are living together, but this seems very strange, no? It wasn't too smart for you and Nicola to send emails to Kasamba Utopia members without even bothering to mask the IP address. You think Kasamba Utopia members are dumb, but they're not. Many have noticed this and know you are lying about your domestic situation. Many members also laugh behind your back at your lame antics and attempts to be so righteous. You are just as bad as the scammers but the funny part is that you think you are saving Kasamba. Do you realize what a joke you are? Does Katharine know you are the person who was behind her suspension a few months ago? The other great thing is your Kasamba photo. It can be easily found on a website called Mullet Watch. You target others for using fake photos and you are using one yourself. There is a special little spot in h**l for hypocrites like you.
Barbara
Plainfield,Illinois,
U.S.A.
Losing Track of What is most Important.
#102UPDATE Employee
Mon, July 17, 2006
Greetings,
I am sure that many of you are becoming quite annoyed with all of the negativity being exchanged between clients and experts in regard to all of the arguing and bickering going on both inside and outside of Kasamba.
It is greatly affecting many of us experts that work hard and do offer honest and ethical services. The Negative atmosphere being created is quite overwhelming and it is greatly affecting the integrity of Kasamba and Kasamba Experts alike.
I do not know what the solution is. However, I do believe that all solutions can be found at the core of the initial problem. We are all adults here, and should all be acting accordingly.
The experts that continually attempt to verbally "uphold" their reputation, are doing nothing more than adding fuel to the flame. Their public displays of aggression are unprofessional, unethical and deemed unnecessary. One's reputation should be able to uphold itself.
Additionally, the "clients" that go from one expert to the other testing them and falsifying personal information in an attempt to discredit the expert is completely unfair. I believe that is where one of the underlying problems exist. In reality, the initial deception creates a deceptive outcome. In essence, I believe what we have here, is nothing more than the pot calling the kettle black.
Kasamba is a business. Within its foundation, there should be both a code of conduct and a code of ethics set in place, not only for experts but for clients as well. The majority of established businesses have great success upholding those ethics. Those codes should be enforced, and when broken, disciplinary action should follow.
Those codes are not a form of dictatorship, rather as a form of mediation wherein, if there are complaints, they should be addressed in a timely and efficient manner.
In closing, I believe that we should all be working together to form a unity of peace, honor and support. Our goals should be placed on assisting humanity and empowering the human spirit. I believe there is a solution to all of this. Moreover, it is quite simple and effective. If everyone would simply throw in their weapons and walk away, this battle of mass destruction could end. In this case, the weapons are the words that are spoken. The time has come to stop reacting... Stop the postingsAnd stop beating the dead horse.
For those of you that will feel inclined to comment that I am not specifying my name, I leave you with this thought: It is not the authors name that validates his book, It is the words written before the signing of his name, that epitomizes his worth.
I wish for you ALL an abundance of Peace and Serenity.
That being said, I leave you with the words of the incredible John Lennon.
Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today...
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace...
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one
Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world...
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one
Shelley
Omaha,Nebraska,
U.S.A.
I AM SO BLOWN AWAY
#102UPDATE Employee
Sun, July 16, 2006
I am so blown away by all of this!!! A CLIENT told me about these reports and she said she was skeptical about hiring because of it! I can't believe the things that I am reading. I don't know any of you, at all. I keep to myself on Kasamba, so I am not saying anything negative or positive to/against anyone, but wow!! Isn't the whole point that we are here (on kasamba) to help people????? That is why I work on Kasamba. I cannot believe all this stuff going back and forth. It just blows me away.
HighPriestess
Linda
London,Europe,
United Kingdom
VERY UPSETTING STUFF.
#102Consumer Comment
Sat, July 08, 2006
I found this site because I was looking up Edith O'Leary. I felt like I had an incredible reading with this very nice lady and I was very disheartened to read this nonsense and to see her name dragged into this and the accusations that "Rev" Stacie made about her and the other psychic being the same person. I hope Edith has nothing to do with any of this. She probably doesn't.
I don't know who started what here - however I wanted to say that coincidentally I have had a reading with "Rev" Stacy (a while back) and she asked me so many questions berforehand (that i was taken aback) and then she proceeded to tell me bunch of laughable nonsense. She was 100% OFF. I did not get an honest vibe at all.
I think this is argument is basically scammers against scammers.... I hate to see innocent, honest readers get dragged into this.
I will say that after reading all this I don't think i'll be using Kasamba anymore.
Ashley
Phoenix,Arizona,
U.S.A.
LOL
#102Consumer Suggestion
Sat, July 08, 2006
Anyone with a brain in their head can see that this Penny individual has mental problems and makes up people to defend herself... I don't even need to paste evidence as it's glaringly obvious, but look at this supposed chat log post from "Kristen":
"""here is the IM chat!
witchchic: did you see all that crap going on in rip offs? It's a big joke.
mrpennybabson: I saw it when it ws one the pubi board. Not after why wtch up.
witchchic: You mean you didn't start a post there, like I joked with you about?
mrspennybabson: lol No why would I do that. I have been through the brat packs crap for over three years I just ignore then now
witchchic: They are saying that you did. I thought the mistakes looked too much like Robin blue balls spelling roflol. That's the only way he can get attention.
Witchchic: Mel is picking on the way you write. Her stuff is filled with grammar errors!
mrspennybabson: I don't even wast my time with that crud. I have been to busy lately.
witchchic: That's right, how is the new book coming along.
mrspennybabson:great gotten a lot of people sending me there storys to. Bill and Judy sent peple my way.
witchchic:that's cool. I will send you one of mine also.
mrspennybabson: That's cool. Bck. Client calling."""
If you copy and paste a chat log, why is her screenname first "mrpennybabson" and then "mrspennybabson"? Also, why is there a space after the :'s? There shouldn't be if it was real!
I am not a psychic and am not friends with anyone in here, but Penny, making people up to defend yourself is as low as it gets..
Avilon
Derbyshire,Europe,
United Kingdom
REV STACI
#102REBUTTAL Individual responds
Fri, July 07, 2006
I have never been on this site till now, when a client of mine told me that I had been mentioned on this site by you Rev Staci.
I do not normally get involved with pathetic behaviour like this but I will not have my name and good reputation slandered by people who do not know what they are talking about
Lets get the facts clear
I DO NOT HAVE MULTIPLE ACCOUNTS AVILON IS MY ONLY ONE
I AM IN NO WAY CONNECTED TO EDITH OLEARY
I HAVE MANAGED TO GET TO THE FRONT PAGE BY HARD WORK AND PUTTING IN THE HOURS NOT BY DOING ANYTHING FRAUDUANTLY
MAYBE IF ALL THESE EXPERTS STOPPED SLAGGING OFF OTHERS AND PUT THERE ENERGIES INTO THERE OWN READINGS THEN MAYBE THEY WOULDNT FEEL THE NEED TO SLATE OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING WELL.
I WONT APOLOGISE FOR BEING ON FRONT PAGE AND I WILL NOT STOP PUTTING IN THE HOURS I DO. I HAVE BUILT UP A GOOD CLIENTELE WHO COME BACK REGULARY
AND COMFIRM MY PREDICTIONS
SO REV STACI GET A LIFE AND BUT OUT OF MINE!!!!!
No
Chicago,Illinois,
U.S.A.
STOP THIS!!
#102Consumer Comment
Sun, June 18, 2006
I have posted the following on another link, yet, I feel that these experts need to read this AGAIN:
I have been a Kasamba customer since last year as I have mentioned in my comment yesterday, as of today, I am NO LONGER a customer. I have read ENOUGH about these experts and their behavior. What I have read on here thus far, only depicts to me how unethical and immoral some experts are. Although what I have read pertains only to several experts, I have decided to NEVER go back to Kasamba. I no longer trust the hiring process, the administrative aspects regarding experts' conduct of business nor the enforcement of privacy agreement between experts and Kasamba.
I have been to most of the experts mentioned, I do not even want to find out whether my information was disclosed between them. I sincerely ask the management at Kasamba to investigate these matters, and request these experts to cease and desist. If all that I have read on here has a certain degree of truth, this constitute fraud committed by these experts, and Kasamba may also be criminally liable for fraud committed by these experts.
I strongly urge these experts to STOP and think hard before you post any further disgusting things that you do 'behind the scene.' You not only implicate yourself but also the company you work for.
If there is anyone independent from Kasamba with legal background reading this, I sincerely ask that you take a few moment of your time and take a look into these matters and seek justice/truth for the innocent consumers.
Thank you.
Sean
Same Street,Other,
Ireland
Wondering
#102Consumer Suggestion
Sun, June 18, 2006
I am also a client of kasamba and have been for many years. I have been to most, if not all, of the first three pages of readers in this time.
Over the past two years some experts have gotten very foolish in the way they talk to us. I have sent several reports to kasamba because certain experts would post in chat with me not to go to this psychic or that one because they are a fraud.
AS for melodie she now sits in a place I think doesnt suit her at all I dont feel she is in the top 10" was said by Marius - London, Europe and I have to agree with that statement. I have been to her several times in the past. She has insulted many experts and told me not to go to them. And then even put link in one of our recent talks about a hater group for Penny Clark Babson that was created in yahoo. Then she back spaces and deletes all the bad stuff she says about others so that there is no evidence .
So I checked out the group she gave me the link for and it was sick. Rational adults do not think the way these people do. I noticed that group is gone and I'm glad it is. I ask, is it hate and Jealousy that keep people like that going?
I have to agree with the person on here who made the remark about how strong Penny must be after seeing all this posted here and else where about her. She keeps working no matter what they do to her. That is strength and courage. That is someone I want in my corner because she is one person that never gives up and it shows!
I think its sick and demented for people to go here or any where else to trash people. They are doing two things One: bringing attention to the very people they are insulting and bringing them more clients and Two: Making themselves look like fools and as*'!
I also have to add that since I have been a client of kasamba's for a long time I can tell you that Staci has no way of knowing if someone has more then one account. She assumes they do with no proof.
Just like in earlier post she has assumed that a expert has stalked her, and tried to be like her, radio shows and all But there has been no proof of that either. Just her say . And the expert she accuses here has done more in their career then Staci has. And there is Proof of that.
There are no reasons what so every for the experts to be insulting other experts and making their lives hell. Did these experts kidnap your kids? Did they sleep with your spouse? Did they kill a member of your family? I think not. So do your work and let them do theirs. They are not stealing clients from you. If you are not getting clients its because your not logged on enough, or because you suck or maybe just maybe karma is finally catching up with you.
And no one on the net appointed you the fraud squad. We don't want you to rid our world of injustice because, its clear by this, that we are more able to be judgmental then you. So we will think for our selves Thank you.
If your true goal was compassion and wanting to help others you wouldn't be attaching your names to other well known experts in scam reports trying to bring attention to yourself or making false reports like the start of this thread and try to make it look like someone else did it. We know that was a set up. That's way too clear. Every one knows who the true front page scam artists are on kasamba. and It isn't Cali, Robin or Penny!
No
Chicago,Illinois,
U.S.A.
Business ethics
#102Consumer Comment
Sat, June 17, 2006
I have been a consumer on the Kasamba site since last year, I have come across experts who in my opinion do have an amazing gift from beyond this world. Simply because the predictions made by them, although I very doubted them at first, happened as predicted. Unfortunately I have also come across others who were not honest, I have no desire to point my fingers at anyone. I am only here to speak my mind.
It is absolutely disheartening to come across reports like these, it makes me wonder whether some of the 'top' experts on the site practice business ethics. I do however believe that if an individual has the 'gift,' there will be no need to involve himself/herself in such unethical behavior. I would hope that these experts understand the concept of ethics while benefitting from clients (i.e. your income/your share of the fees paid) who are in desperate need of insights.
As an expert, you are to accept ratings given to you by your clients, whether it be one of low or high rating. The ratings simply imply the client's assessments toward the session, not an assessment toward the expert as an individual. I have many times come across forums on the internet with individuals who have expressed their stong negative opinions regarding some experts' 'unethical' practices on the Kasamba site.
The practice of editing/non-posting of ratings of average or below average ratings, otherwise honest ratings. The practice of signing up as expert with several account names. The practice of having newer experts who have received high ratings be fired/let go by Kasamba. As a consumer on the Kasamba site, I am now very aware of a trend on the Kasamba site, the new experts I have spoken to over the last few weeks who happen to have extremely high ratings, all these experts have been fired by Kasamba within one week. I cannot even begin to imagine how much influence some experts have over the entire rating system as well as the kasamba's termination process.
I would like to take this opportunity to state clearly that I am not an expert, I am only a consumer, a rather disheartened consumer. I sincerely ask these experts to practice business ethics.
Thank you.
Nicola
Ferryhill,Europe,
United Kingdom
Avilon
#102Consumer Suggestion
Sat, June 17, 2006
I am a client to kasamba and I have no interest in what your all arguing about as I think its pathetic. However, when you start to drag an innocent readers name through the mud I deem it necessary to intervene.
For a start I am who I've stated I am and I'd like to ask 'Staci' how she knows 'Avilon' is a multiple account? Ive spoke to this reader a few times and I can most certainly say she is English, shes from Derbyshire and I spoke with her about things only an English person would know about being english myself.
You really shouldnt be mentioning other peoples names if you cant be 100% certain they are corrupt or up to no good. It seems to me that when a genuinely gifted reader comes to kasamba and earns their stars legitimately you 'few' assume they are fiddling! How pathetic and rude! I hope Karma comes and bites all you bitter people right on the arse.(Although naming no-one in particular)
Nicola
Newcastle Upon Tyne.
Staci
Lake Havasu City,Arizona,
U.S.A.
Marius you LIE
#102REBUTTAL Individual responds
Wed, June 14, 2006
Marius from "London, Europe" (HELLO -- it's London, England! We already know Jane from "London, Europe" is not who she says she is, so I'm thinking you must be the same fool!) -- if that is your name, then I have never read for you. Stop lieing.
It's a give-away when you say "avilon is one edith oleary" are good readers! They are 2 of the multiple accounts the scammers use on Kasamba! So this makes me think that YOU, Marius from "London, Europe", must be THAT scammer, and that you must also be Jane from London, Europe! I think I know who you are, because you've already had AT LEAST ONE of your 'expert' accounts banned from Kasamba. AT LEAST ONE. And I also know you've got plenty more lurking in the background, just waiting there in case one of your other front-page accounts gets banned again - for example your Avilon account or your edith oleary account. If you scammers would put as much energy into doing GOOD for your clients, and abide by the Kasamba expert memeber agreement and other laws, you would go far. It's too bad scammers like that have no respect for anything - not for themselves, not for their clients, not for the money their clients pay them.
It's very interesting to me that nearly 2 months went by before the previous 2 posts were made. Like someone has a grudge and can't let it go.
I wish more Kasamba clients would learn to recognize the scammers among the ethical psychics, would learn to recognize all the tell-tale signs in common among the scammers, all the glowing feedback that says things about how fast they type (I type 120 wpm but no client ever comments about that!), and about how they know so much without the client saying anything. I wish all Kasamba client members would realize that everyone who says "reunites lovers" are scammers. I wish all Kasamba client members would learn that they themselves are empowered to make their lives more fulfilling and satisfying, and that there is truly no magic and no spell and no ritual that will bring a former lover back against his or her will. I wish Kasamba client members would recognize that as one of the oldest psychic scams in the book! I also wish Kasamba client members would recognize that when a psychic says to them that they have had a curse placed upon them, or that they have negative energy surrounding them that needs to be removed, or some other similar idiotic nonsense, that they would immediately recognize that they are being SCAMMED and would RUN the other direction away from that scammer!
Thanks to ripoffreport.com once again for letting me post my rebuttal. It's unfortunate that this place is being taken advantage of by the scammers and scum, and that I am forced to defend myself against these libelous statements.
Brightest blessings to all who read this!
Venetta
Lexington,Kentucky,
U.S.A.
IT KILLS ME THAT NONE OF YOU MAY NOT BE THINKING ABOUT WHAT YOU MAY BE DOING YOUR CLIENTS WHO WILL READ THIS
#102Consumer Comment
Sun, June 11, 2006
HAVE ANY OF YOU SET AND THOUGH ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE DOING TO THE CLENTS THAT COME TO YOU? SERUOILSY? SHARIG SOMEONES INFORMATION AND THEN LAUGHING ABOUT IT IN A GROUP. WHY WOULD ANYONE DO THAT?? HOW COULD ANYONE DO THAT??
PUT YOURSELF IN OUR SHOES WOULD YOU WANT SOMEONE LAUGHING AT YOU OR MAKING FUN OF YOU TO OTHER PEOPLE, WHEN THEY COME TO YOU FOR HELP... HOW OLD ARE WE PEOPLE??? REALLY? AS A CUSTOMER OF KASAMBA ONCE AGAIN THIS IS MAKING ME SICK TO MY STOMACH TO READ THIS.
I'M NOT GOING TO COMMENT ON THE WORK THAT ANY OF YOU DO BECAUSE I HAVE NEVER BEEN READ BY ANY OF YOU BUT REALLY WHAT IF YOUR CLIENTS FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS THEN NONE OF YOU WILL HAVE THE FAME OR THE SO CALLED HIGH RATINGS. BAISCALLY THIS IS LIKE SOME KIND OF ELEMENTRAY SCHOOL COMPETITION YOU GUYS ARE HAVING A FIELD DAY ONLY NOT BEING AWRADED WITH RIBBIONS BUT WITH OUR MONEY.
GOD HAS GIVING YOU SOMETHING TO HELP PEOPLE THAT HAS CAME TO YOU. DON'T BACK STAB, LAUGH, AND LIE TO THESE PEOPLE THAT TRUST YOU. DON'T TAKE IT FOR GRANTED AND USE IT AS A FORM OF GAIN.
AND FOR PENNY AND THE OTHER PSYCHIC WHO ARE BEING ATTACKED, I MEAN COME ON HELP US OUT AS CUSTOMERS TO GET RID OF THEM. IF THERE IS A MSN GROUP WHO IS SHARING DATA BASE, OR CLIETS FILES AMOUGUST EACH OTHER LET KASAMBA KNOW. SO THEY CAN BANISH THEM OFF THERE SITE.
SO THAT ONLY LEAVES TO ASK THE QUESTION IS THERE REALLY A GROUP DOING THIS??? IF SO STEP UP AND DO SOMETHING.
WHO KNOWS WHO IS TELLING THE TRUTH OR NOT OR WHO ELSE IS APART OF THIS GROUP I COME TO KASAMBA FOR MY OWN ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES AND TO GAIN INSIGHT AND GUDIENCE. NOT TO BE LAUGHED AT OR MADE FUN OF OR EVEN LIED TO.
I KNOW ALL OF MY READINGS THAT I HAVE HAD IS NOT SET IN STONE OR COULD CHANGE WITH THE FORM OF FREE WILL SO WHEN THINGS DON'T COME TO PASS I WILL NOT BASH THE PSYCHIC FOR IT I CAN ONLY ASK FOR CLAIRFARCATION. BUT AS A CLIENT THAT DOES NOT GIVE THAT PSYCHIC THE RIGHT TO GO BASH ME OR MAKE FUN OF ME TO OTHER PSYCHICS.
AND I HOPE I DO NOT FIND OUT THAT MY PERSNOL ISSUES HAS BEEN DISGUTED OR SHARED IN A GROUP THAT IS ON MSN WITH THE PAST PSYCHIC THAT I HAVE TALKED TO (IF THEY ARE IN THAT GROUP).
YOU GUYS ARE GIVING KASMABA AND OTHER READERS WHO ARE FAIR AND HONEST A VERY BAD NAME. AIRING EACH OTHER DIRTY LAUNDRY ABOUT THERE PERSONAL LIFES. I MEAN COME ON. THAT IS A FORM OF "SLANDER" AND "HARRHASMENT".
NOTE TO PENNY: I NEVER HAD A READING WITH YOU SO I'M NOT HEAR TO JUDGE YOU AT ALL BUT FOR YOU TO HAVE TO READ WHAT WAS STATED ABOUT YOUR PERSONAL LIFE WITH YOU AND YOUR HUSBAND ETC ETC. THAT HAD TO STING. AND IT HAD TO HURT.
FOR SOMEONE TO GO THAT FAR THEY HAD TO BEEN OUT FOR YOU. I KNOW SOME PEOPLE PLAY THERE CHILDISH GAMES BUT TO GO THAT FAR THAT'S WERE I WOULD HAVE DRAWN THE LINE.
AND FOR YOU STILL KEEP YOUR HEAD UP AND CONTINUE ON WITH YOUR WORK THAT'S ONLY A STRONG PERSON. A STRONG WOMAN. AND I'M SORRY THAT YOU HAD TO READ SOMETHING LIKE THAT. PERSONALLY I COULD HAVE NOT HANDLE IT.
TO ALL OF YOU WHO IS DOING WORNG AND YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE REMEMBER: GOD DOES NOT LIKE UGLY. AND WILL PUINSIH WHO DOES WORNG TO OTHERS. AND YES I DO BELIEVE IN KARMA. WHAT GOES AROUND WILL COME AROUND.
IS WHAT YOU GUYS FAIL TO UNDERSTAND IS US CLIENTS REALLY HOLD THE GOLDEN TICKET.
AND I HOPE OTHER CLIENTS FINDS AND WILL READ WHAT I HAVE READ ON THIS SIGHT TODAY.
TO THE PEPOLE OR PSYCHIC THAT HAS FINALLY BOUGHT THIS ISSUE UP ABOUT THIS "KU GROUP" WHO IS ON MSN THANKS. AND THANKS FOR LETTING IT OUT NOW.
Marius
London,Europe,
United Kingdom
rev staci best on kasamba I think not!!!!
#102Consumer Comment
Tue, June 06, 2006
Hello
I am a regular user of some of the kasamba readers and can say that the above people listed and expressed here by nathan and others appear in my eyes to be after the dollar .
Good readers are being picked off and removed and I can say this these so called honest and ethical readers lack one thing. The SUCK at reading.
Nothing any of them have said ever came true. I would almost agree with nathan but im still talking to a couple 0f good readers avilon is one edith oleary another who remain on kasamba .
As for the others mentioned above who bashed and cheated ther way to the top
shame and karma return 10 fold
AS for melodie she now sits in a place I think doesnt suit her at all I dont feel she is in the top 10
I personally hope kasamba fires them as they do nothing for the site.
thank you
Marius
London,Europe,
United Kingdom
rev staci best on kasamba I think not!!!!
#102Consumer Comment
Tue, June 06, 2006
Hello
I am a regular user of some of the kasamba readers and can say that the above people listed and expressed here by nathan and others appear in my eyes to be after the dollar .
Good readers are being picked off and removed and I can say this these so called honest and ethical readers lack one thing. The SUCK at reading.
Nothing any of them have said ever came true. I would almost agree with nathan but im still talking to a couple 0f good readers avilon is one edith oleary another who remain on kasamba .
As for the others mentioned above who bashed and cheated ther way to the top
shame and karma return 10 fold
AS for melodie she now sits in a place I think doesnt suit her at all I dont feel she is in the top 10
I personally hope kasamba fires them as they do nothing for the site.
thank you
Nathan
New York,New York,
U.S.A.
You are all full of it
#102UPDATE EX-employee responds
Fri, April 28, 2006
I will keep this short.
Unfortunately, last year I had an incredibly difficult time. The girl that I was in love with left me and didn't look back.
The funny/sad thing is that I went to kasamba on a friend's recommendation and have had the opportunity to speak to every psychic listed on this thread (Robin, Babson, Melodie, Cali, etc).
The interesting thing is they all gave me the exact same prediction, that the girl I loved would realize how wonderful I am and would return to me. The dates they proposed differed a little, but, for the most part, I was convinced that their advice was correct and I followed it to a T.
To my dismay, I spent quite a lot of money on kasamba.com and, when NONE of the predictions the aformentioned psychics made came true, I signed up to be an expert myself just to see what kind of qualifications were necessary to be a psychic.
Evidentally, there are no qualifications expected of these so-called experts except to be great liars and false-hope givers.
I will never return to Kasamba. There is nothing but a group of liars who share information with each other so that is impossible to get an accurate "psychic" reading. This should be against the law and anyone caught stealing (because YES IT IS STEALING) money from poor people who have just lost something very important to them and are desperate should go to jail.
PERIOD.
Lisa
Hosuton,Texas,
U.S.A.
Giving Kasamba A Bad Name
#102Consumer Comment
Sun, April 23, 2006
I am a professional on Kasamba, I haven't been there long, and maybe not much longer. I don't know any of the people that are in this report, and none of them know me, as far as I know.
You are giving everyone at Kasamba a bad name! I didn't even know this was going on, until I received an email from the Kasamba Message Board. Please think of the negaitve ramifications that this is going to bring to all the experts using Kasamba.
We are all going to lose money because of this. Take this somewhere else! I can't believe that Rip-off Report would allow this nonsense to continue.
I would also like to remind the other "experts," that slander and lible are still illegal, and many are breaking the law. Grow up, and stop causing Kasamba, and the true professionals to lose money and reputation.
J
Brockton,Massachusetts,
U.S.A.
Ethical?
#102UPDATE Employee
Sat, April 22, 2006
So now we are to believe in YOUR honesty? You are sooo delusional. You expect us to believe that the other log was 'modified'? For what purpose? Since you use the client name quite prominantly, why bother to change the math? This is yet another lame attempt at flaming ripoffreports with still more fictional bullhockey. And need I point out that by posting this client's information, you are breaching their confidentiality? To anyone reading this: No ethical expert at Kasamba would EVER make personal information public. It is expressly forbidden in the agreement all experts sign when they provide their services on Kasamba. Yet this person (most likely a terminated Kasamba expert, who got caught not playing by the rules) plasters a confidential (if its even real, you decide) log not only on ripoffreports, but on the PUBLIC BOARDS at Kasamba, where ANYONE can get a glimpse into their personal lives. Not only is this unethical, it is illegal.
Jane, do yourself a favor - end this vendetta and save face. You are only succeeding in making yourself look asinine.
Jane
London,Europe,
Europe
Here is the true log!!! And it's not fake!!!
#102Consumer Comment
Sat, April 22, 2006
Robin Bluedragon: Hi their how can I help you today?
Clair_Fun: Could I possibly get a reading on my partner I heard he was lieing to me and want to know if this is true?
Robin Bluedragon: What did you hear he was lieing to you about?
Clair_Fun: That his started work.
Robin Bluedragon: Ok I'll tell you what I see hire now
Clair_Fun: Ok Hired!
Robin Bluedragon: Before I begin I want to say that now you've come to me you must never visit the following experts: Psychic Barb, Grish, Master Z, Cali, David-James, ThirdEyes (espically her), Mirror of life, as well as the fat broad Seydali.
Clair_Fun: I think you misunderstood me I requested a reading, I wanted help. Why are you telling me this?
Clair_Fun: Hello Mr, can you please reply I've lost way over $330 listening to this, and why were you typing all this slow?
Robin Bluedragon: Listen when you leave the chat if you do not leave me a rating of 5 stars you will die in 7 nights by Karma, and make sure you don't visit the experts I stated tooo
Total paid session time: 4 minute(s)
Hourly rate: $5000
Total amount paid: $333.32
Here you are. What do you think now about Robin Bluedragon the ethical? Clients please get a grip. Look at what this expert has done to this client "Clair_Fun" and I'm sure to many other clients as well.
I don't even want to get into how his been trashing experts on Kasamba that are not unethical like him. He is on Kasamba because of his thirst for money not because of talent or to help.
The exact same goes to expert "Empower your Life" also known by her true name "Pauline Maria". We have noted she is helping Robin out. She is much more careful in her scamming with clients and trashing of experts so we are yet to get a log on her.
But the true proof of what she's said and done in KU (Robin Bluedragon's group) still stands as well. And she's reported lies on kind hearted ethical experts to Kasamba, so as in to get them terminated from the site (this is what she did to Seydali, ThirdEyes and The Mirror of Life with Robin Bluedragon).
She also never excuses herself to do gossip on Seydali up until this day in KU.
Jane
London,Europe,
Europe
You are Liars!!!
#102Consumer Comment
Wed, April 19, 2006
I was a close friend and a very regular client to Seydali on Kasamba. And now that I can't find her I feel very terrible. She was always an honest and very sweet reader, not to mention who was always accurate. She never pointed fingers out to anyone nor never said don't go to this reader or don't go to that reader, and I should know this because I was a regular of hers.
And I feel it is disgusting of people like Robin bluedragon', Amber', Melodie', and Pauline Maria' also known as Empower your Life' to be so selfish to these experts! Also it's not surprising that they have gotten banned The Mirror of Life' and Third Eyes'.
It is a fact that Robin Bluedragon and Pauline Maria are submitting ratings to themselves with fake client accounts that they create themselves, as they told this in their KU group (KU is an MSN Group that was created by Robin Bluedragon with all the unethical readers packed in it). Also it is a fact that they are sharing personal client information from Kasamba in their KU group, to increase their chances of getting a 5 star rating by making clients go WOW' by telling them something that they have already told another expert and of course that expert goes and shares it with the other.
This is a tactic that Robin Bluedragon and Pauline Maria who is a mental nut case that uses! A friend of mine once went to Robin Bluedragon and the first thing she was told upon hiring was don't go to so and so and so and so, which lasted about 3 minutes (and took more than $65 from my friends account) listening to him telling her not to go to so and so otherwise he will cast a death spell on her and told my friend not to give him a rating lower that 5 otherwise karma will kill her in 7 days.
What is this? Isn't this unethical or what. He is scaring clients and experts not to report him to Kasamba and is acting like the big man in his KU group although his very sad and very lonely. It's sad that people are listening to him and getting under his wings due fright.
But he got scared as he knew that The Mirror of Life, Third Eyes and Psychic Seydali were going to report his butt to Kasamba he started creating fake logs with a mentally disturbed person called Pauline Maria who is trying to tell each and every client that comes to her that they are mentally disturbed and that they need a spell casting to cure them.
What a terrible thing to say to those poor clients that come to her! And anyways they created fake logs on the Mirror, ThirdEyes and Seydali and continually submitted them to Kasamba until Kasamba banned them. So he has accomplished what he wanted once again by lies and telling crap.
But karma I'm sure one of these days will be coming round! Below is the chat session with my friend and what Robin Bluedragon was telling her as stated above!
Robin Bluedragon: Hi their how can I help you today?
Clair_Fun: Could I possibly get a reading on my partner I heard he was lieing to me and want to know if this is true?
Robin Bluedragon: What did you hear he was lieing to you about?
Clair_Fun: That his started work.
Robin Bluedragon: Ok I'll tell you what I see hire now
Clair_Fun: Ok Hired!
Robin Bluedragon: Before I begin I want to say that now you've come to me you must never visit the following experts: Psychic Barb, Grish, Master Z, Cali, David-James, ThirdEyes (espically her), Mirror of life, as well as the fat broad Seydali.
Clair_Fun: I think you misunderstood me I requested a reading, I wanted help. Why are you telling me this?
Clair_Fun: Hello Mr, can you please reply I've lost way over $50 listening to this, and why were you typing all this slow?
Robin Bluedragon: Listen when you leave the chat if you do not leave me a rating of 5 stars you will die in 7 nights by Karma, and make sure you don't visit the experts I stated tooo
Total paid session time: 4 minute(s)
Hourly rate: $5000
Total amount paid: $65
That should explain a lot about Robin Blueballs (as his nicknamed by the ethical experts).
Erin
Middleton,Wisconsin,
U.S.A.
Not in my experience
#102Consumer Comment
Wed, April 12, 2006
Well, the whole idea of whining about a psychic or a spellcaster being a "rip-off" doen't make sense to me. You either believe or you don't and I think in this market there's a bigger "buyer beware" element that the consumer needs to take some personal responsibility for. Having said that and in light of the posts that clearly seem to point out that there's some serious professional sabotage going on here all I'd like to say is, in my personal experience, Robin Bluedragon is the "real deal" if you, as I do, believe in these services. Even if you are a skeptic, he certainly doesn't deserve this slander. Robin has never beem anything but professional and kind and compassionate and responsive with me. His prices are fair, I've never been pressured or coerced into accepting any service from him, he answers all my questions, explains everything he's doing for me, and is always open and friendly and ACCURATE. Again, I believe without a doubt in psychic and paranormal abilities, but even if one doesn't believe the measure of an ethical business person is most certainly measured by their honesty and professionalism and customer service. Robin certainly always does this and, therefore, on any level is an ethical and honest psychic, insomuch as I've never been made false promises, etc. Ya rolls the dice ya takes yer chances and I have accepted that responsibility unto myself. This is certainly slander. If you believe in psychics I recommend him highly. Just read his feedback. That stuff is real. Just as in any other pay for services rendered business place.
Erin
Middleton,Wisconsin,
U.S.A.
Not in my experience
#102Consumer Comment
Wed, April 12, 2006
Well, the whole idea of whining about a psychic or a spellcaster being a "rip-off" doen't make sense to me. You either believe or you don't and I think in this market there's a bigger "buyer beware" element that the consumer needs to take some personal responsibility for. Having said that and in light of the posts that clearly seem to point out that there's some serious professional sabotage going on here all I'd like to say is, in my personal experience, Robin Bluedragon is the "real deal" if you, as I do, believe in these services. Even if you are a skeptic, he certainly doesn't deserve this slander. Robin has never beem anything but professional and kind and compassionate and responsive with me. His prices are fair, I've never been pressured or coerced into accepting any service from him, he answers all my questions, explains everything he's doing for me, and is always open and friendly and ACCURATE. Again, I believe without a doubt in psychic and paranormal abilities, but even if one doesn't believe the measure of an ethical business person is most certainly measured by their honesty and professionalism and customer service. Robin certainly always does this and, therefore, on any level is an ethical and honest psychic, insomuch as I've never been made false promises, etc. Ya rolls the dice ya takes yer chances and I have accepted that responsibility unto myself. This is certainly slander. If you believe in psychics I recommend him highly. Just read his feedback. That stuff is real. Just as in any other pay for services rendered business place.
Erin
Middleton,Wisconsin,
U.S.A.
Not in my experience
#102Consumer Comment
Wed, April 12, 2006
Well, the whole idea of whining about a psychic or a spellcaster being a "rip-off" doen't make sense to me. You either believe or you don't and I think in this market there's a bigger "buyer beware" element that the consumer needs to take some personal responsibility for. Having said that and in light of the posts that clearly seem to point out that there's some serious professional sabotage going on here all I'd like to say is, in my personal experience, Robin Bluedragon is the "real deal" if you, as I do, believe in these services. Even if you are a skeptic, he certainly doesn't deserve this slander. Robin has never beem anything but professional and kind and compassionate and responsive with me. His prices are fair, I've never been pressured or coerced into accepting any service from him, he answers all my questions, explains everything he's doing for me, and is always open and friendly and ACCURATE. Again, I believe without a doubt in psychic and paranormal abilities, but even if one doesn't believe the measure of an ethical business person is most certainly measured by their honesty and professionalism and customer service. Robin certainly always does this and, therefore, on any level is an ethical and honest psychic, insomuch as I've never been made false promises, etc. Ya rolls the dice ya takes yer chances and I have accepted that responsibility unto myself. This is certainly slander. If you believe in psychics I recommend him highly. Just read his feedback. That stuff is real. Just as in any other pay for services rendered business place.
Erin
Middleton,Wisconsin,
U.S.A.
Not in my experience
#102Consumer Comment
Wed, April 12, 2006
Well, the whole idea of whining about a psychic or a spellcaster being a "rip-off" doen't make sense to me. You either believe or you don't and I think in this market there's a bigger "buyer beware" element that the consumer needs to take some personal responsibility for. Having said that and in light of the posts that clearly seem to point out that there's some serious professional sabotage going on here all I'd like to say is, in my personal experience, Robin Bluedragon is the "real deal" if you, as I do, believe in these services. Even if you are a skeptic, he certainly doesn't deserve this slander. Robin has never beem anything but professional and kind and compassionate and responsive with me. His prices are fair, I've never been pressured or coerced into accepting any service from him, he answers all my questions, explains everything he's doing for me, and is always open and friendly and ACCURATE. Again, I believe without a doubt in psychic and paranormal abilities, but even if one doesn't believe the measure of an ethical business person is most certainly measured by their honesty and professionalism and customer service. Robin certainly always does this and, therefore, on any level is an ethical and honest psychic, insomuch as I've never been made false promises, etc. Ya rolls the dice ya takes yer chances and I have accepted that responsibility unto myself. This is certainly slander. If you believe in psychics I recommend him highly. Just read his feedback. That stuff is real. Just as in any other pay for services rendered business place.
Elizabeth
Saint Charles,Missouri,
U.S.A.
About time
#102Consumer Comment
Wed, March 22, 2006
Staci -
Thank you for realizing just how much you were lowering yourself by getting involved in "Kindergarden Wars"
As for the rest of you - you DID notice the website is Rip-off Report and not Romper Room correct?
Staci
Lake Havasu City,Arizona,
U.S.A.
A Final Word - unfortunate that just a few individuals can bring such chaos to a respectable website
#102REBUTTAL Individual responds
Wed, March 22, 2006
First let me say that I appreciate this website, ripoffreport.com. It is great that there is a website where people with legitimate complaints can file a complaint report. The website serves a respectable purpose. I respect the integrity of this website, and the promise that no report will be removed unless a request to do so is filed by the author of the initial report.
I am an Ordained Minister, Professional Psychic, Certified Hypnotherapist, and PastoralCounselor. I completed a 3-year seminary program, which resulted in my ordination. I hold multiple certifications granted by boards of professional organizations with published journals. I hold a city license which means I had to pass a background check in order to be granted the license. I have had my own private practice for 27 years, the past 5 years of which include working over the internet as an adjunct to my in-person and phone sessions. I am not a "self-proclaimed psychic" or a "self-proclaimed" anything else. I have proven myself, demonstrated my abilities and my knowledge before adjudication boards.
I absolutely deny every single derogatory claim and statement made about me in this report and any of the posts within it. The statements are not true, and I find the remarks rude, nasty and childish. I have posted my rebuttals throughout this thread, and I deny any further derogatory comments and/or claims about me that may be entered in the future.
It is unfortunate that just a few individuals can bring such chaos to a respectable website, but that seems to have happened here. One individual started this report with baseless claims, and either that individual (using different names) or other individuals have replied with more baseless claims, and childish and smutty remarks. Clearly this is not the kind of behavior this website intended. These kinds of reports and remarks debase the honorable intentions of this forum.
Lori
Beverly Hills,California,
U.S.A.
the story of staci the purple lady
#102UPDATE EX-employee responds
Tue, March 21, 2006
here is the story of an old cow named staci
who acted totally spacey
she wore purple day and night
and her face looked like a toxic dump site
she thought her readings on kasamba were great
but her clients failed to relate
staci's nose is planted in robin's butt
in search of a clogged macadamia nut
which she will swallow with obvious delight
and chase with a shot of diet sprite
Kimberely
Seattle,Washington,
U.S.A.
we may never just who is telling the truth but.......
#102UPDATE Employee
Tue, March 21, 2006
I am an expert on kasamba and a member of an MSN board that Penny Babson belongs to. I have read of the horrible experiences that Penny has had with the group she calls the brat packers and robin bluedragon that she often refers to as robin blueballs. Penny has seemed like such a nice, caring and even funny lady I could not understand why anyone would do these things they have to her. None of it made sense.
Penny often boasts about her many accomplishments and all the internet publications that are on the net about her. On March 3 2006, Penny made the statement in our MSN group: I dont hide that with all of that that he did to us drove me into a alcohol and meth addiction which I have been clean from for three years! According to Penny's feedback she has been reading for Kasamba clients and giving her psychic advice for the past 4 years.
Considering her recent post in our MSN group, the recent postings on this site and in her kasamba profile Penny makes this statement: check to see how well known on the net they are and for what. I decided to see just what is on the Internet about her. I came across a press release (PRWEB) September 6, 2004. In her MSN statement she says: I fought that arse whole for three years for this divorce . But the press release this statement is made: She is very happily married to her true love Barry Babson. {Rumor has it these two will be renewing their wedding vows this December in a private ceremony.} This press release is only 18 months old and this is consistent with the information of the Nov 11, 2004 Bennington Banner newspaper report, mentioned earlier in this thread.
I don't really know any of these people to say who is lying and who is telling the truth but it is hard to not see what has transpired on this board re rebuttals coming from the same accounts with different names applied to them. Then, the blatant inconsistencies of Penny's own MSN statements and the statements of her press releases and newspaper reports. Well, now it is pretty hard to believe just which of her stories are true and it is easier to believe all these people are telling the truth in all these statements here on ripoff.
Below is Penny's statement to our MSN group on March 3 2006 and her September 2004 press release:
Lets clear something up right now.. as everyone who can read knows I heavily advertise myself on the net and I am DANG PROUD OF THAT! I also have two books out and have done radio and tv shows and mag interview so I do not have to steal kasamba clients. I have all that I can handle and more..
as far as my family goes I dont hide behind anything matter of fact In several interviews I have done I have told about how my ex husband molested my children how he is doing 35 to life for one sentence and 45 to life for another..
Matter of fact my daughters talk about what they went through at youth orgs to help others. I dont hide that they were in foster care for a while and are now home with me. I dont hide that with all of that that he did to us drove me into a alcohol and meth addiction which I have been clean from for three years! I have told this on radio show where I have talked about what hard things in life make people turn to drugs!
See I am proud of me and my family and my clients love the fact that I am human and I am not afraid to talk about my lessons learned in life.
We are psychics, spiritual guidance councilors if you will and we are not immune to bad things happening in our lives and any psychic who thinks that we are is to full of themselves to see the forest before the trees.
So brat packers would you like me to drop draws so you can kiss my butt! roflol because no matter what you do it isnt going to work and after three years you should be smart enough to know that. I say should be but your just to stupid.
I am not going to stop advertising myself on the net and Im not going to stop talking about what I went through and my kids went through because it helps others and Im not going to stop writing books about my dad because he deserved his life to be heard and seen. He was and is a great man.
So no matter what you do, no matter what you say, it isnt and hasnt worked so just go lay down next to your dishes.....
Matter of fact to my friends here. Oh happy day ... yesterday my divorce became final. I fought that arse whole for three years for this divorce . he kept wanting spousal support.. like that would happenroflol. the judge finally say it my way and awarded me the divorce on the grounds of cruel and unusual punishment.
so do the happy dance with me ya all!
And to you brat packers... thanks for the laugh we all needed it!
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2004/9/prweb155447.htm
The Low -Down on Psychic Medium And Author Penny Clark Babson- By Mike Shapiro Celebrity News Inc.
Many people, as our mail bags show, have been wanting more information about Psychic Medium and author Penny Clark Babson. We decided to give you the public what you have been seeking. Here you will find personal information as well as prediction that have come true.
(PRWEB) September 6, 2004 -- She is known the world over for being the internets top Psychic Medium and Development teacher. Penny Clark Babson was born Penny sue Clark in Cambridge NY on March 22,1969.The daughter of Eugene and Norene Clark of West Pawlet VT. She is the third daughter of four that the couple had.
She was raised in West Pawlet VT attending elementary school there and going to high school in near by Granville NY. She attended Green Mountain College where she received her degree in early childhood education as well as business administration. She has her C.N.A through the state of New York and has studied Criminal Justice through Kaplan College. She has helped her family through out her childhood by giving her time to their group ? The Pawlet/Wells volunteers where they helped low income families. As well as helped her father with functions for B.R.O.C a government run agency in Vermont. And is the founder of the ? Eugene Clark memorial Award ? an award given out each year to two sixth graders in the Pawlet school system. Penny also thrills many children each year with her ?letters from Santa? campaign. Where she writes personal letters to children during the holidays season for a small fee which she then donates to children?s charities for medical research.
She has had Psychic Mediumship abilities all of her life and came to the internet in 2001 working through various sites. Now she works on kasamba.com as well as has her own award winning web site. She has one book out now called ? By The Grace of God an Adult Childs Journey Through Cancer Loss and after-life connections? about her father and his death of cancer, and another book, ? The Last Trip Home? that will be released in November. She is now working on a sequel to the book ? By The Grace of God? called ? Through a Daughter?s Eyes? as well as working on six other writing projects. She is a member of the International woman?s writers guild.
Penny is the ?mommy? to five wonderful daughters ranging in age from 4-16 and has three sons that have crossed over. She is very happily married to her true love Barry Babson. {Rumor has it these two will be renewing their wedding vows this December in a private ceremony.}
Penny will be traveling soon to do a book signing tour through out the United States and Canada. and will be going This February to Australia to the Spirit wisdom book store in Brisbane.
Over the years Penny has made many predictions that have come true. Predicting the last presidential elections{ She states the new election is a Kerry/Edward ticket win.} She has predicted the writing of the recent book by Bill Clinton as well as the capture of max factor heir Andrew Luster by famed Bounty Hunter Duane ?Dog? Chapman.
She is a raved about paltalk host giving guidance and hope for many world wide as well a having numerous testimonies on her site by her fans. You can find out more about Penny, her books and psychic medium readings by going to her site at http://www.impressionsbypenny.com
Penny has started to hold a free give-away on her site where people from all over the world may win a free copy of her first book autographed by her. This contest is open until November 2004. Go to her site for details.
I, myself, have been very impressed with Penny and her work over the years. She is about to embark also on a radio show and talk show tour. You can check her site for more details on locations or contact her Publicist Karen Ammound at KBC Media relations at (856)869-9403 In New Jersey.
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Staci
Lake Havasu City,Arizona,
U.S.A.
To Robert - New York, New York"
#102REBUTTAL Owner of company
Sun, March 19, 2006
The people who "only make things worse for people who are only trying to make an honest living" at Kasamba, are the SCAMMERS - the ones who scam people out of hundreds and thousands of dollars with their scam methods, only the latest of which is running multiple accounts and referring their naive clients from one of their accounts to the other account, thereby blowing these clients' minds with their amazing ability to know everything about them with no or almost no information given (sometimes a first name is given, sometimes it's not), convincing thier clients through the use of fear that their clients must buy a spell from them and always coming up with some sort of excuse for the spell not working when the client gets the nerve to complain, and further telling the client that it's the clients' own fault the spell failed. Then there are these same scamming psychics who pad their own ratings by using other accounts to come in as a client so as to be able to leave more 5 star ratings and highly glowing comments left to convince other prospective clients how amazing the psychic is because he or she knew everything about them without the client hardly saying a word. There are many more such schemes that I have learned these scammers are doing -- such things as I have never dreamed of before because my mind just doesn't work in that kind of way. I say to you, Robert from New York or whomever you really are, that THESE are the kinds of people who only make it worse for people like me trying to earn an HONEST and ETHICAL living by serving a higher purpose and serving others through our work via Kasamba.
Robert
New York,New York,
U.S.A.
more nonsense
#102UPDATE Employee
Sun, March 19, 2006
I've been reading this since it was first posted and funnier stuff could not have been written for comedy. Robin babbling on about his nobel-laureate punctuation (not!) and the rest of you pointing fingers at each other.
You people need to get outside and away from your computers for a while. Spring is coming! Get outside and get some fresh air and sunshine! This pigfighting is not only infantile but its hypocritical. Robin, you of all people should just leave well enough alone. You've caused enough grief for everyone as it is.
Also got news for you all: Kasamba does not care about any of this stuff you are all griping about. They are in the business to make money and that's it. Incessant whiners like Robin and his group of cronies only make things worse for people who are only trying to make an honest living.
Melodie
Los Angeles,California,
U.S.A.
Hello McFly
#102REBUTTAL Individual responds
Sun, March 19, 2006
THIS thread was never posted on Kasamba's public board. Penny couldnt have know about it from there because it never happened. Lie number 1.
"Dawn" from Branson Missouri and "Brooke" from West Pawlett Vermont posted one right after the other on the exact same user account and password. This is why the second post states that it is an update. Lie number 2.
Your IM was clearly edited as the screen name for Penny inexplicably changed genders from one statement to the next. Lie number 3.
Kristen, you can rant and rave all you want about this being a setup but the facts speak for themselves.
No one said YOU needed to believe it because it's pretty clear that you're incapable of being objective. But no matter how manic or abusive or irrational you want to be about this, you can't deny the veracity of the above three statements.
Melodie
Los Angeles,California,
U.S.A.
Hello McFly
#102REBUTTAL Individual responds
Sun, March 19, 2006
THIS thread was never posted on Kasamba's public board. Penny couldnt have know about it from there because it never happened. Lie number 1.
"Dawn" from Branson Missouri and "Brooke" from West Pawlett Vermont posted one right after the other on the exact same user account and password. This is why the second post states that it is an update. Lie number 2.
Your IM was clearly edited as the screen name for Penny inexplicably changed genders from one statement to the next. Lie number 3.
Kristen, you can rant and rave all you want about this being a setup but the facts speak for themselves.
No one said YOU needed to believe it because it's pretty clear that you're incapable of being objective. But no matter how manic or abusive or irrational you want to be about this, you can't deny the veracity of the above three statements.
Melodie
Los Angeles,California,
U.S.A.
Hello McFly
#102REBUTTAL Individual responds
Sun, March 19, 2006
THIS thread was never posted on Kasamba's public board. Penny couldnt have know about it from there because it never happened. Lie number 1.
"Dawn" from Branson Missouri and "Brooke" from West Pawlett Vermont posted one right after the other on the exact same user account and password. This is why the second post states that it is an update. Lie number 2.
Your IM was clearly edited as the screen name for Penny inexplicably changed genders from one statement to the next. Lie number 3.
Kristen, you can rant and rave all you want about this being a setup but the facts speak for themselves.
No one said YOU needed to believe it because it's pretty clear that you're incapable of being objective. But no matter how manic or abusive or irrational you want to be about this, you can't deny the veracity of the above three statements.
Melodie
Los Angeles,California,
U.S.A.
Hello McFly
#102REBUTTAL Individual responds
Sun, March 19, 2006
THIS thread was never posted on Kasamba's public board. Penny couldnt have know about it from there because it never happened. Lie number 1.
"Dawn" from Branson Missouri and "Brooke" from West Pawlett Vermont posted one right after the other on the exact same user account and password. This is why the second post states that it is an update. Lie number 2.
Your IM was clearly edited as the screen name for Penny inexplicably changed genders from one statement to the next. Lie number 3.
Kristen, you can rant and rave all you want about this being a setup but the facts speak for themselves.
No one said YOU needed to believe it because it's pretty clear that you're incapable of being objective. But no matter how manic or abusive or irrational you want to be about this, you can't deny the veracity of the above three statements.
Staci
Lake Havasu City,Arizona,
U.S.A.
Baseless accusations and falsehoods still.
#102REBUTTAL Individual responds
Sun, March 19, 2006
Kristen, the contention you have based upon your IM conversation with Penny is predicated upon your belief that Penny is telling the truth. My experience with Penny is not one where she has been very truthful, and that is putting it mildly. My personal experience of Penny also includes many groups in which she has made posts under names that were not her own but say Penny Clark Babson all over them in use of language, grammer and spelling, and other ways that give her identity away. My experience with Penny is rather similar to what has ocurred in this entire thread, actually, and is why I don't put myself into situations where she and I are together in any group or other kind of situation. Someday you may find out the truth for yourself, and you might wind up feeling differently about Mrs. Babson when you do.
What began this thread as baseless accusations and falsehoods remains baseless and false. Period. End.
Penny
West Pawlet,Vermont,
U.S.A.
Enough is Enough!
#102REBUTTAL Owner of company
Sat, March 18, 2006
I have not posted here. The only time I have ever been to this site was when the link was posted in the Kasamba Public Boards. I looked and left. Frankly, I feel this is a bunch of crap!
Do any of you know how childish and down right stupid you look? All of you, including the person who started this post, should be ashamed of yourselves, excluding Kristen and Mike, who seem to be the only logical voices here!
First, I will state this: when you use someone's name in a way that will cause them to loss work that is slander and it doesn't matter if it is on or off the internet. It also doesn't matter if you have Proof, POf, or Proff! You may want to keep that in mind.
I, now, will address these issues. I will do so now and this time only.
When I was a little girl I took 4 fifty cent pieces from my mom's dresser and spent them on candy. Typical kid stuff, right? I am turning 37 this week. Never does my mother bring this act up. That was then. This is now.
In the Past, Staci and I, have had our problems. But that was in 2002. It is now 2006. We have agreed to disagree and do not have contact with each others lives. I do not talk bad about her. As a matter of fact I actually recommend people to her when my schedule is full. So, the fact that someone would try posting something here under my name is highly intolerable
.
I would never say anything bad about Mike Sage. I think the world of him and I know he is aware I hold him in high regard.
Mel.. Should we even go there? You have seemed to spout your mouth off here like a sewer pipe with a major leak that's unsinkable. Translated this means that you have told a lot of stuff that you have reported over and over for four years, yet, you have said nothing at all and there is no base for it.
I didn't have the time to even do this post. When would I have had the time to start this thread!
My company name is Impressions Unlimited. This company houses my work at kasamba, work on impressionsbypenny.com, internet seminars, my freelance writing work, my books and the three adult geared web sites I co-own.
Right now, along with all this, I am writing a book called Cradle of Love, Cradle of Loss about miscarriage and still birth. No, it's not about anything I do as a psychic. It's about the loss of children. My books were not published by a vanity press. A vanity press takes money from you not gives it to you and if there are a few mistakes in them that is the fault of the publisher and their editing department. I have since hired my own private editor, as well as have moved to a new publisher.
Those books are also not about my psychic ability what so ever. They are about a wonderful man named Eugene Clark, my father. They are about his death of cancer and what he and I went through. The money from them is donated, ever dime of it, to my local branch of the ACS to aide in cancer research!
I also give information sent to me by Beth Chapman to the fans in the yahoo groups made for their show on A&E called Dog the Bounty Hunter. So again I ask you, when do I have all this time?
I have never called Robin Blue Dragon blue balls in any post. Matter of fact, I have never called him anything. I do not care if he is there or isn't. His world doesn't affect mine what so ever.
Every time I turn around your KU group members are posting stuff about my ex husband. It was a sad and traumatic thing that affected my family greatly. I have never hid it from my clients or fans. I talk about it very open. I went through a lot because of it. I now travel with my older children to schools in this state and the neighboring three states where we tell our stories to others so that we can help them get help and not be abused!
I am also sick to death of seeing the crap about my poor spelling and grammar. I will have you know that I have been doing freelance writing since I was 17 years old. Every year I take an English comprehension course. Each year I get a 3.0 for a grade. Some times when I post in a chat group setting I do mess up a lot. I do not watch every little word while I am at play. You should also watch your post Mel. They are extremely inaccurate with grammar and structure.
Work is a different matter and if any staff member of mine has miss-printed something that is only because they didn't put it pass me before they placed the ad!
And that is another thing you complain about. You hate that I advertise. In case you haven't noticed this is a business I am running. I know it upsets you that you do not have the head for business that I do but I can't help that. I will continue to advertise my business and instruct others who work for me to do the same.
For the most, part I do not waste my time with the bull of those in KU who have stalked and harassed me for almost 4 years.
I could care less what you children do. But I will continue to help those who come to me after they have been attacked by you and need someone to talk to.
I don't care if its talking to them on line, on the phone, or driving two hours to their homes { Kristen lol} I am here for them and will help them through it. Because who knows your tricks better then I do. I have lived and thrived through your abuse!
I do have to state Mel that you claim to make more money then I do at kasamba. That's neither here nor there. The fact still remains you started at kasamba before me and I still have more rates and more repeat clients then you do. The ratings speak for themselves and anyone can look at them!
I am a busy person, much to busy for the childish antics of a bunch of low graders like the KU crowd. If you want to make yourself look like a jack arse ( yes I spelled that wrong on purpose) you go right ahead but leave my name out of your childish crap!
Now you can make your childish remarks about how I rattled on and continue to talk to yourselves!
Kristen
Colorado Springs,Colorado,
U.S.A.
Explain this!!! Now!!
#102Consumer Comment
Sat, March 18, 2006
I was just talking with Penny in IM . here is what was said. It seems she didn't start this post.
You jerks have a lot of explaining to do. Now I am pissed!
How dare you take business from the kasamba.com site because of your bull crap. I thought that looked like Robin's spelling bull.
maybe just maybe You should look at your own people. Again you are making poor Penny a innocent target!
here is the IM chat!
witchchic: did you see all that crap going on in rip offs? It's a big joke.
mrpennybabson: I saw it when it ws one the pubi board. Not after why wtch up.
witchchic: You mean you didn't start a post there, like I joked with you about?
mrspennybabson: lol No why would I do that. I have been through the brat packs crap for over three years I just ignore then now
witchchic: They are saying that you did. I thought the mistakes looked too much like Robin blue balls spelling roflol. That's the only way he can get attention.
Witchchic: Mel is picking on the way you write. Her stuff is filled with grammar errors!
mrspennybabson: I don't even wast my time with that crud. I have been to busy lately.
witchchic: That's right, how is the new book coming along.
mrspennybabson:great gotten a lot of people sending me there storys to. Bill and Judy sent peple my way.
witchchic:that's cool. I will send you one of mine also.
mrspennybabson: That's cool. Bck. Client calling.
*** So you can see. This is a major set up!
I could just scream. You People are sick and will do anything to turn people against others and make yourself look good { By the way it didn't work}
Kristen
Colorado Springs,Colorado,
U.S.A.
Pointing out to you Mel.
#102Consumer Comment
Sat, March 18, 2006
I would like to point out to you that:
1) I have not seen anything where Penny Clark Babson has attacked Sage. On here or other wise. I am a member of the group that Erik Peters started and Sage is a moderator of, and the last time I look Penny and Sage get a long very well!
2) People for Penny or Penny herself, have stop posting long ago. You Mel, are the only one on here running your mouth ( By the way I found three spelling and 12 grammar mistakes in your post!}
3) If this is all Penny's fault, Please explain to me why it is that you and yours have been doing this for some time . Not just to Penny Clark babson, but to others as well.
4) I want the proof you have from the heads at Kasamba that say You and KU are the police at Kasamba.
5) anyone with logic, as you keep pointing out, { which by the way, readers see that statement as degrading them }can see that you are the only one slinging mud. they can go to Kasamba.com and see for themselves that you have about 2 or 3 thousand ratings less then Penny and the others you attack and you have been at kasamba longer.
That you spend most of your time hurting others instead of reading.
6) I personally feel this was a ploy of yours and the few friends you have. Again set Penny up to look like a trouble maker while you bring attention to yourself!
we are so sick of your victim crap! we hear it all the time!
You never did answer the question about why your site folded if you are so dang rich!
Lets face it. You keep posting. You love the attention this is bringing to you.
You will stop at nothing to insult and hurt Penny, Cali, me and others. It has gotten you know where. Why don't you seek professional help.
we are so sick of seeing your proof from 2000-2004 in case you missed the past couple of new years it is 2006!!! and your still where you were when you first got married! dumb and stuck!
Michael
Taylor,Texas,
U.S.A.
Robin of Alachua... whatever
#102UPDATE Employee
Sat, March 18, 2006
Thanks Kristen for having a fairly cool head about all of this.
Robin,
First off, no, I am not part of KU... This whole report is both about Robin Blue Dragon and Rev Staci.
Did you, anywhere, in anything that I wrote, see the name Robin Blue Dragon (RBD) ever mentioned? Did I appeare to come to his defence? I sure didn't. Don't you think that, if I was a member of KU, and liked Robin in any way, that I would come to his defence as much as I come to Staci's?
Anyone with a sense of logic can easily make their deduction from the above facts.
Did I place blame on this post to Penny? Nope. I simply stated what I feel about my friend who I feel to be a very ethicle reader, and made an all around general comment about how I feel that these posts have become a bickering match that can, and might still, be to the detriment of Kasamba as a whole.
I have my very strong suspicions about who started these posts but I do not have "PROF" of who it is, so, I won't speculate here. I will take that up personally should I see fit to.
And for the record... get it right, it's scorpiosage not Scorpio Sage and not Scorpio's Age, Robin, do you know how to copy and paste... use it.
Elizabeth
Saint Charles,Missouri,
U.S.A.
This is getting old.....
#102Consumer Comment
Sat, March 18, 2006
Ummmmmmmm, don't you all have maybe a chat room you can go duke this out in instead of on here?
Or, better yet, go fill your prescriptions for Prozac?
Are you all by any chance really from Tupper Lake?
Melodie
Los Angeles,California,
U.S.A.
Sorry You're Wrong, and now dragging Sage into this too!
#102REBUTTAL Individual responds
Sat, March 18, 2006
WOW... Sorry, but none of the people you are referring to started that thread. In fact well before this one came along every single person you mentioned stated that they were angry about it.
Do you notice that not one person in the group you mention ever went back and fueled the flame in the original post? Not one. No one wanted to see this happen.
The sheer ugliness of your statements says alot about how far you really are willing to go to try to discredit someone.
Penny is known for making her crude blueballs statements in all the groups. Aside from the awful grammar and misspellings, that alone gave her away. So now she's going to attack Sage too? What did he do?
No one just "found these reports" and wandered over here scratching their heads in disbelief and then felt compelled to post. Every person who has posted her was directed here by someone else. So get off that.
The fact remains that you Penny, erroneously assumed that one of the people you've been attacking and accusing for years now posted the original report, yet ALL of the people you've named were angry when that was posted because they (we) all knew you would pull this. Believe that or don't believe it I don't care. It's the truth.
Anyone that really wants to read through these and see where SOME are attacking and SOME are defending can figure this out for themselves. None of us have stooped to your level. None of us have called names or made up lies to try to support our claims. We don't have to. And the fact that you do speaks volumes.
Kristen
Colorado Springs,Colorado,
U.S.A.
Point In the right Direction
#102Consumer Comment
Sat, March 18, 2006
Please Don't drag Sage into this. If he likes Staci that's up to him. He isn't a part of Robin's band of fools .He was only sticking up for someone he sees as a friend. He has even been attacked in the past as well.
I also think adding the whole sex thing in here was just low. person I do not care where Robin places his wally or with who. Just because someone is a psychic doesn't mean we don't have sex! The issues here need to be kept on track .
1) This group, which started before Robin but he did in fact join, has been stalking Penny Clark Babson, Cali and other experts for a number of years.
2) That no one, which includes self-righteous Mel, has the right to point any fingers at Penny.
3) That as usually, the hate group has stalked all of us, have indeed started this, not this thread, but have started this just the same and now have made Kasaba look lame.
** This isn't the first time they did this . The have even emailed kasamba so much they changed the rate system and this even screwed their own. Some People just do not learn***
4)Since, I am apparently the only logical one posting here I would like to point out that if you all hate some one so much why do you keep bringing attention to them?
No! She doesn't start this.You guys have been harassing her for years. You even hacked into her computer and sent news paper clips about her husband to all er clients. And we all know who you did that and who gave you the information to do it too!
You caused this when your group posted something here on another thread and then posted it in Kasamba.
Staci, you may or may not be innocent in this but even you must admit you look guilty for posting that other link in Kasamba. What were you thinking? Again no one had ever heard of this site until you and your friends made it aware to them!
This is sick and if you lose clients you have yourselves to blame NOT Penny!
You point out all this bad stuff you claim against Penny and others.
Well what about the good. What about the fact that if you put her name in a search in google thousands of hits come up around her name. if she advertised herself to get that I still say GOOD FOR HER because none of you can claim that.
Her ratings are in the thousands on kasamba. More then people like you Mel, who have been there longer!
She has two books out that are at amazon.com and all over the net. Amazon doesn't place self published books on their site. And if its a publishing house well who cares at least she has books for sale world wide. You do not.
She has been on CNN , I don't know about Larry King, I have never seen anything about that, but I have seen the shows he has been on. I have also seen the magazines she has been in! Yet again None of you have.
She runs a paltalk room that thousand see her at. I was also there the night that the paltallk owners were in her room in wow because she had a packed room as well has had a celebrity guest, Richard Dreyfus, there. She has also had Justin Biahag as a guest n the room!
What about the help she has given to the crew members of the Dog the bounty Hunter Show! She helps keep internet stalkers away from Dog Chapman and his family.
yes I know its true because I did email Beth Chapman and when I asked her if she knew Penny Clark Babson she emailed me back saying they are friends!
So again another thing she has done and you have not!
It is so obvious that all this was started by your group out of jealousy. You say the bad stuff can be proved. So can the good stuff yet you never bring any of that up.
I don't just march to peoples defenses with out proof . I am not blind nor and I stupid! I checked Penny out a lot before I came to her for help against what you have done to me.
So basically you want the people of the world to see things your way about her when there is more good about her then bad and they have made their thoughts known. They love her!
So stop this crap now. everyone is tired of it!
Robin
Alachua,Florida,
U.S.A.
SLEAZY PSYCHICS AND SEX
#102UPDATE Employee
Sat, March 18, 2006
Scorpio sage admits here saying ""i recommend clients to rev staci all the time"" well putting 2 and 2 togeter WE are all fully aware of the client swapping and data and log swapping that goes on in the Utopia group.
Mr Blueballs nicknamed this for his shall we say harim of women and a young nubile male named mike hanging around whos job it is rumored is to s**t rate other readers who knows what goes on ,on and off the net yet he fully denys any connection with them but continues to try and date readers one after the other ??
one witch poo had been rumoured to have related to how she herself had been turfed out the group for saying that keeping a data base was wrong ...Also another reader ires
had apparently said she had been attaked for talking to a wife of a cleints lover offline
we thank meladie for her free thinking approch on other readers similar to her free thinking approch she has about teenagers copulting all over her house which she had apprently shared in group
Then emily rose herself had apparently said she was a member of utopia and had sprerad a fake yahoo log to prove it . Emily rose who has been apparently attacked and thrown out of the group since with her frined serenitygarden who first took her into the group
the whole thing stinks of sleeeeeeeeeeeezy overtones and the only reader i would go to from this list would be penny clark babson who has built up a solid reputition as a great reader or one erik peters a very good looking man we are picking this is why this blueballs is so angry as his own hairy exterior reminds us more of a chimp
enough said all of the above minus the good ones are a threat to every other reader on the site ty
Kristen
Colorado Springs,Colorado,
U.S.A.
Wrong mel as usual.
#102Consumer Comment
Sat, March 18, 2006
Mel You are dead wrong. But aren't you always.
Your group started this. You posted a post in here on a different thread { you meaning your group} Then posted it in kasamba on the public board. That insulted Penny and Cali. Also their were post made about Mirror of Life which Staci, posted in kasamba. No one even knew of this site until your group pointed it out on the kasamba boards, which I must ad, makes Staci look as guilty as hell because she posted the other link.
Penny's people or who ever posted a post in here to get back at you. I gave them bad advice there to do so. But The Fact still remains. YOUR GROUP STARTED ALL THIS AS ALWAYS!
Why don't you just do your work? Why not let this die! You can't You just can't stop spouting your hateful crap long enough.
So in-turn you and your group did this and gave bad attention to Kasamba. And what do you care You have states checks to fall back on. I think its funny that all these attacks happened just as soon as Penny told of contacting kasamba about issuing w9's because people with state checks will not be able to file them and would have to leave and when so many got upset about your attacks we came to penny for help{ after all out side of setting up Queene she is your fav to attack and blame} so she posted a thing in the group she is in about how to avoid your attacks and live through them.
I guess you just hate people who truly are out to help others like she is.
Just because 5 or 6 of you do not like her doesn't mean we and all the clients will hate her too So no matter what you say your not changing minds and you have only took money out of your own wallets. Stop Blaming Penny! It's your crap own it!
Kristen
Colorado Springs,Colorado,
U.S.A.
Wrong mel as usual.
#102Consumer Comment
Sat, March 18, 2006
Mel You are dead wrong. But aren't you always.
Your group started this. You posted a post in here on a different thread { you meaning your group} Then posted it in kasamba on the public board. That insulted Penny and Cali. Also their were post made about Mirror of Life which Staci, posted in kasamba. No one even knew of this site until your group pointed it out on the kasamba boards, which I must ad, makes Staci look as guilty as hell because she posted the other link.
Penny's people or who ever posted a post in here to get back at you. I gave them bad advice there to do so. But The Fact still remains. YOUR GROUP STARTED ALL THIS AS ALWAYS!
Why don't you just do your work? Why not let this die! You can't You just can't stop spouting your hateful crap long enough.
So in-turn you and your group did this and gave bad attention to Kasamba. And what do you care You have states checks to fall back on. I think its funny that all these attacks happened just as soon as Penny told of contacting kasamba about issuing w9's because people with state checks will not be able to file them and would have to leave and when so many got upset about your attacks we came to penny for help{ after all out side of setting up Queene she is your fav to attack and blame} so she posted a thing in the group she is in about how to avoid your attacks and live through them.
I guess you just hate people who truly are out to help others like she is.
Just because 5 or 6 of you do not like her doesn't mean we and all the clients will hate her too So no matter what you say your not changing minds and you have only took money out of your own wallets. Stop Blaming Penny! It's your crap own it!
Kristen
Colorado Springs,Colorado,
U.S.A.
Wrong mel as usual.
#102Consumer Comment
Sat, March 18, 2006
Mel You are dead wrong. But aren't you always.
Your group started this. You posted a post in here on a different thread { you meaning your group} Then posted it in kasamba on the public board. That insulted Penny and Cali. Also their were post made about Mirror of Life which Staci, posted in kasamba. No one even knew of this site until your group pointed it out on the kasamba boards, which I must ad, makes Staci look as guilty as hell because she posted the other link.
Penny's people or who ever posted a post in here to get back at you. I gave them bad advice there to do so. But The Fact still remains. YOUR GROUP STARTED ALL THIS AS ALWAYS!
Why don't you just do your work? Why not let this die! You can't You just can't stop spouting your hateful crap long enough.
So in-turn you and your group did this and gave bad attention to Kasamba. And what do you care You have states checks to fall back on. I think its funny that all these attacks happened just as soon as Penny told of contacting kasamba about issuing w9's because people with state checks will not be able to file them and would have to leave and when so many got upset about your attacks we came to penny for help{ after all out side of setting up Queene she is your fav to attack and blame} so she posted a thing in the group she is in about how to avoid your attacks and live through them.
I guess you just hate people who truly are out to help others like she is.
Just because 5 or 6 of you do not like her doesn't mean we and all the clients will hate her too So no matter what you say your not changing minds and you have only took money out of your own wallets. Stop Blaming Penny! It's your crap own it!
Kristen
Colorado Springs,Colorado,
U.S.A.
Wrong mel as usual.
#102Consumer Comment
Sat, March 18, 2006
Mel You are dead wrong. But aren't you always.
Your group started this. You posted a post in here on a different thread { you meaning your group} Then posted it in kasamba on the public board. That insulted Penny and Cali. Also their were post made about Mirror of Life which Staci, posted in kasamba. No one even knew of this site until your group pointed it out on the kasamba boards, which I must ad, makes Staci look as guilty as hell because she posted the other link.
Penny's people or who ever posted a post in here to get back at you. I gave them bad advice there to do so. But The Fact still remains. YOUR GROUP STARTED ALL THIS AS ALWAYS!
Why don't you just do your work? Why not let this die! You can't You just can't stop spouting your hateful crap long enough.
So in-turn you and your group did this and gave bad attention to Kasamba. And what do you care You have states checks to fall back on. I think its funny that all these attacks happened just as soon as Penny told of contacting kasamba about issuing w9's because people with state checks will not be able to file them and would have to leave and when so many got upset about your attacks we came to penny for help{ after all out side of setting up Queene she is your fav to attack and blame} so she posted a thing in the group she is in about how to avoid your attacks and live through them.
I guess you just hate people who truly are out to help others like she is.
Just because 5 or 6 of you do not like her doesn't mean we and all the clients will hate her too So no matter what you say your not changing minds and you have only took money out of your own wallets. Stop Blaming Penny! It's your crap own it!
Melodie
Los Angeles,California,
U.S.A.
Just remember
#102REBUTTAL Individual responds
Sat, March 18, 2006
when you lump everyone together like this WHO started it!
Penny Clark Babson, as usual.
Please, this is not a bunch of psychics creating drama, this is people being forced to defend themselves against the ugly lies of one very mean-spirited individual.
If there is anyone left who doesnt feel Penny wrote these (most of them, we know Kristen jumped in there too as she likes to do) then I question whether or not they are capable or true perception.
She did write them and she busted herself out about it later.
I think it's sad too that people had to come here to defend themselves against outright lies. But we've had to deal with this kind of stuff her accusing people of stalking her and all this other garbage) for years now, when the fact remains that SHE has been the one creating the drama. Period.
Sharon
Mount Laurel,New Jersey,
U.S.A.
Very Disappointed
#102Consumer Comment
Sat, March 18, 2006
I gotta tell you guys, I found this site when I was trying to research psychics from kasamba and its very disappointing to see this going on. Honestly, I went to Penny Clark Babson and her predictions came true!! Which thrilled me. But ya know what, by the time I finished reading all posts, I was soo aggravated with all of you that I wouldnt have any of you do a reading for me!! This is really bad "press" for Kasamba. And its very immature. Im skeptical as it is but now that I know, or even suspect there are all these scams going on at Kasamba, I doubt if Ill ever return there again. Its really a shame. Please GROW UP!!! All of you.
Michael
Taylor,Texas,
U.S.A.
Leave Staci alone.
#102UPDATE Employee
Fri, March 17, 2006
I have to say here that this does not look good, to anyone, or for anyone.
This all started when one expert at Kasamba posted the following report http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff180356.htm and then another expert made a comment on it, outside of ripoffreport.com.
I have read all details here, not only the ones made on this site, but, on Kasamba itself, and it appears to me that both of these reports mentioned are generated by experts of Kasamba. I am frankly a little bit disturbed that you have decided to take potential business away from me personally, stearing clients away from certain experts actually stears them away from Kasamba all together, which just hurt your wallet, and mine.
If there is a way for any of you to simply withdraw your complaint, I suggest you do it now.
We are being called out by number ladies and gentlemen, and you, so called psychics, who are iether, so insecure in your own ability, or so bored with your lives that you have to create your own drama, are adding to your own obstacles. While adding to yours, you are adding to mine, and I don't like that, not one bit.
That said, let me tell you something. As a psychic reader myself, I have had a reading with Rev Staci, and I was surprised at what she had picked up. I had never had a reading with anyone else at kasamba before that, and there is no way that anyone could have told her anything about me, but she picked up on a lot, including my musical background, which, isn't something that most men are into.
I recommend clients to Rev Staci all the time, when they are seaking a second opinion, or, just whenever I can't connect to a particular need that the client has.
Rev. Staci, is a deffinate asset to the psychic family, and any attack on her character, ability, and genuinity would be a direct attack on my own. I don't take kindly to that, especially from other psychics, who know full well, how much flack we catch from the skeptics.
for the record, I really don't care who decides to backlash at me for coming to Staci's defence. The only person reading these reports are experts from Kasamba anyway, so whatever.
This is scorpiosage why not start one about me, negative advertising is better then no advertising at all I guess.
Elizabeth
Saint Charles,Missouri,
U.S.A.
Wow......
#102Consumer Comment
Fri, March 17, 2006
Wow, you guys all sure seem to have a lot of "negative energy" floating around between you all. No offense to anyone but have any of you thought that if someone was surfing for an astrologer or psychic that just reading this would be enough to turn them off of ALL of you? To be fair, I don't patronize these types of businesses anyway but if I did, I sure wouldn't want to go to someone who stoops to these levels.
Elizabeth
Saint Charles,Missouri,
U.S.A.
Wow......
#102Consumer Comment
Fri, March 17, 2006
Wow, you guys all sure seem to have a lot of "negative energy" floating around between you all. No offense to anyone but have any of you thought that if someone was surfing for an astrologer or psychic that just reading this would be enough to turn them off of ALL of you? To be fair, I don't patronize these types of businesses anyway but if I did, I sure wouldn't want to go to someone who stoops to these levels.
Dallas
Sallisaw,Oklahoma,
U.S.A.
Everybody,Knock it off.
#102Consumer Comment
Fri, March 17, 2006
Dear So called Psychics and other people,Who really cares?We all know that the dead you claim to speak to didn't properly learn their ABC's because they try to teach you every time you do a reading!!Go take the James Randi challenge and knock this stupid argument off!!
Elizabeth
Saint Charles,Missouri,
U.S.A.
Wow......
#102Consumer Comment
Fri, March 17, 2006
Wow, you guys all sure seem to have a lot of "negative energy" floating around between you all. No offense to anyone but have any of you thought that if someone was surfing for an astrologer or psychic that just reading this would be enough to turn them off of ALL of you? To be fair, I don't patronize these types of businesses anyway but if I did, I sure wouldn't want to go to someone who stoops to these levels.
Kristen
Colorado Springs,Colorado,
U.S.A.
I also should point out.
#102Consumer Comment
Fri, March 17, 2006
That since you are so wonderful Mel. Isn't it correct that you have been on the site longer then Penny yet she has more ratings!{ yes I know this is where you will say she faked them but kasamba doesn't allow that}
Isn't it correct that you had a site called " Birth Patterns" that folded because you couldn't get clients, and you teamed up with another expert on kasamba who also had her own site that folded for the same reasons, to make a new site but the two of you together couldn't afford to get it off the ground! { and you make so much more then every one else..hhhmmm go figure.
As far as computers and ISP numbers. You do know that in an office, when computers are inter- face together, they share a network so they have the same ISP number. They are all using one ground provider and not different ones right! I mean you are that smart.
Spelling and Grammar..
You are another who needs to re-read your post. There are a lot of mistakes there also. You really have a problem with grammar yourself I see. But what can we expect from someone like you.
No one cares if Penny advertises herself! If some one advertises for her of what. The fact is There is advertising going on and the rest of you are mad because you didn't know how to do it to bring in clients!
Robin even went in and advertised himself in the same places. This shows he can follow the lead of a smarter person. It's funny how you attack Penny for advertising but when he does it its okay!HHHMMMM.
And also tell me, since you always bring it up, why is it we are suppose to hate Penny for something her ex husband went to prison for in 2004!
Is it that you feel, if she was a real psychic, she would have seen it coming???
That would be a crock on your part because as psychics we must also learn our own lessons in life.
Is it that you feel its her fault?
Okay people don't you think we blame the victims in this life way to much?
Or, is it because of the way the paper printed her reactions?
We all know that papers never lie! Ha Ha! It's really easy to say how you would react to something when you have never gone through it. So I guess you wouldn't know what she went through at all!
And why throw stones at her? Jealousy I am guessing. There is so much we could print about your life here. Affairs by spouses, illegitimate kids.. serving minors.. But why go there.
I am not threatened by you and could care less what goes on in your home. I will add it shouldn't be going on, after all, your a psychic right? You should have known when it was going to happen and its all your fault too!
That's what you want us to think about Penny!
Wow how sick and demented can you people be!
All the things you bring up are old news and old hat. No one cares . Only the lame fools in your group run by Blue Balls { as those of us attacked by him now call him}
You think you have some sort of power. Penny, Cali, I and all the others are suppose to bow to you, tell you how wrong we are , bend to your ways and ask for your supreme forgiveness! Oh give it up. We are sick to death of the self righteous crap!
Its old and we are getting tired of it.
Kristen
Colorado Springs,Colorado,
U.S.A.
yeah Right
#102Consumer Comment
Fri, March 17, 2006
Once again you have ran your mouth Mel and have proven nothing.
You talk against your own statements. First you claim Penny Takes money from your business then you claim you make more.
Your people have attacked her and Cali {As well as others} for several years. All you have shown here is that you are a vindictive child throwing a tantrum!
No one cares.
You come off as the groups intellect but between you and Blue Dragon you should go on a wider search for intelligent life. There is none in your group! You do not rule over the experts at kasamba. You are not the voice of reason for us. We don't want people like Staci, Robin and yourself representing us! Do your jobs and and leave other people!
You are the ones who pull this all the time. You say the same exact stuff about Penny as you do the others you insult and trash!
If where our photo's are on the pages makes us better then the ones who have higher ratings and money below us I guess I am better then you because I am always listed before you!
oh also last time Robin Throw that remark in Penny face he ended up trailing behind her! Isn't karma great!
Melodie
Los Angeles,California,
U.S.A.
Kristen YOU ARE A LIAR
#102REBUTTAL Individual responds
Fri, March 17, 2006
I do not use astrology downloads, I never ever have. I have never said so in group. Never once. Sorry I don't need to. And for you to even say that tells me you don't not only not know me at all, but you're willing to say anything to discredit someone more successful than you.
I can tell you there is not one client who would ever say, think or believe that.
As for Penny having more clients and drawing in more business? Ha! I will gladly let a third party compare our Kasamba ratings and income to show you just how wrong you are there. You might believe her lies too, but the fact is, I am higher on the pages than Penny for a reason.
People do not share client info in KU, they are canned and banned if they even try. IF you were ever a member of that group as you claim you were you would know that. That's lie number two.
Emily Rose is not a member of KU and never has been. So that's another lie.
No one has attacked you, Kristen. And this did not start with anyone attacking Penny. Not any of us that is. SHE is the one who started this "report" here in case you've forgotten.
Melodie
Los Angeles,California,
U.S.A.
Penny aka "Brooke Weston"
#102REBUTTAL Individual responds
Fri, March 17, 2006
Brooke, perhaps Penny should get someone who knows how to spell to do her advertising for her.
While nothing that I know of has accred to me recently, I might have "occured" to me that an office would have more than one computer. However I don't expect them to all have the same "ISP".
An ISP is an internet service provider -- such as America Online or Earthlink -- which is in fact different from an IP as was stated.
However that's neither here nor there since there really IS no Brooke Weston, no Jane Cleveland, no Lisa White -- at least none that work in the office of your "highly successful business enterpise" other than in your very furtile imagination.
This is really pathetic Penny and no one believes it but you. NO ONE.
And the fact remains that this report was supposedly created by a CLIENT, who was complaining because she'd been ripped off by a group of psychics, and the minute people started calling you out on it (because you're SO obvious) you forgot what your original scheme was and gave yourself away!
Kristen
Colorado Springs,Colorado,
U.S.A.
IM a Kasamba expert with something to say!
#102Consumer Comment
Fri, March 17, 2006
I think these posts are missing the major issues here. I am also an expert on Kasamba who has been attacked by Robin Blue Dragon and his friends. I was a member of his KU group in msn and was kicked out when I started to get more calls then him.
We all know of the data base that the group uses to share client Information.
I think that these people who are attacking Penny Babson are doing so to take the heat off themselves. You guys are making yourselves look like @sses by the way.
If this woman has done so much why keep trying to bring attention to her? And when do we ask you to defend us at Kasamba? When did Kasamba ask you.
I have seen all the post over the years you repeat yourselves over and over. It's really sad! No one cares.
Remember when you point a finger at someone there are three more pointed back at you.
You talk about this woman and Cali being unethical. What about you. Mel uses a astrology down load and has said so in group. And Staci, You claim to be a medium yet you ask for more information then any other. Yes it's weird when a medium says a person died of heart or lung problems but doesn't most everyone. It's the other information that comes through that validates and you have gotten some bad ratings on that issue.
How about Emily Rose who cried in group about her ex- husband trying to get custody of her daughter because her new husband beats her and trying to figure out how to ?get rid? of him and her mother who took her out of her will !
And again there is the database that KU uses. Why are you sharing kasamba Information?
I think Penny is a great victim for you because she fights back and doesn't watch her temper. Because she doesn't, she makes a perfect victim, and makes it easy for your group to set her up and make it look like she tries to hurt others.
We all have fallen for your trick of this against her and Cali. But we are getting wise to your plans now.
Everyone has had enough of your group! You seem to attack any expert that gets ahead of you in the rates. And Penny is ahead of you. You may have a picture before hers Mel but she does get more clients and draw in more business. That really upsets all of you doesn't it. If she was so bad no one would go to her. And staci , You even said it in your post ? everyone on the front page frauds? well that statement shows you are jealous
So, again, you have made yourself look like @sses. You really need to get new material.
So I say keep posting KU members you make yourself look really low!
Brooke
West Pawlet,Vermont,
U.S.A.
There you go again.
#102UPDATE Employee
Fri, March 17, 2006
For the uneducated in your group. You are unable to read. I did say : you are mking my job alot easier. and you are.. That doesn't say or prove I am Penny. That says That since I Brooke Weston, do the advertising work for Impressions Unlimited and you keep doing this which brings more people to us You are infact doing my work.
You have also made remarks about ISPs and me having the same as Penny's did it accre to you that we office computers. three as a matter of fact that are networked. They have the same isp. You really need to get an education.
And if you know so much about Penny you would know who jane is. if you call the pawlet town clerks office and ask about her and Jim Repo I am sure they will tell you all you need to know.
You pointed out Staci about listings and why people are listed where they are. because they make more money. Thats right they do and get more clients then you. You weren't working on some show for the past year. Your post and that of your little friend keeping showing your uneducated and flaming attempts that have gotten you no where. You are a joke. the whole of your group for that matter. and penny's book isn't self published. anyone who knows anything knows that Amazon and barnes and noble do not list self published books.
As far as mediunship readings inpaltalk. Again you are wrong. Penny doesn't do and hasnt done mediumship readings there. You should come to the room and learn how it works before you make false statements.
Ms. babson has never in her life collected welfare. Unlike you and yours she has always worked for a living. The more you post the more stupid you appear! So keep it going. The world is just laughing at you as always.
Melodie
Los Angeles,California,
U.S.A.
How Embarrassing
#102REBUTTAL Individual responds
Fri, March 17, 2006
Penny, this is so childish. Do you really think ANYone doesn't know this is you?
Did Brooke Weston and Jane Cleaveland and all the others go to the same school of horrible misspellings that you did?
You and Brooke spell "doubt" the same way. dought.
This is totally embarrassing. People with any brains know that.
You published a couple books through a site that publishes EVERY SINGLE PERSON who submits something, and then lists them with Amazon and Barnes & Noble. Big Deal! Even YOU spell the name of your own book wrong half the time!
You are not the internet's most famous psychic medium. You're a joke, with a childish vendetta against someone who never did anything wrong to you!
What did Robin Bluedragon ever do to you? He refused to allow you membership to his group because you'd been banned from so many others. And he refused to listen to your ever-changing stories about victimization and abuse. Get a life already! You've been chased out, kicked out and banned from so many other groups for this exact kind of trouble-making behavior it's pathetic!
Penny, for your information, some of your listings on Kasamba still say you were a guest on Larry King Live, where you gave readings for audiance members (which is spelled "audience" by the way). You might want to remove that since most people who actually watch Larry King know that there is no audience. And no you didnt answer calls from the public either. Anyone who wants to check that out can do so quite easily.
Penny, do you see the difference from this post and all of your others (under all of your sickeningly transparent alter-egos)? This one speaks only the facts. Yours are rife with lies, allegations and inuendos which are quickly becoming your trademark.
Staci
Lake Havasu City,Arizona,
U.S.A.
PENNY A.K.A. BROOKE
#102REBUTTAL Individual responds
Fri, March 17, 2006
PENNY A.K.A. BROOKE -- you just gave your own identity away very solidly, PENNY, when you said "So again I say, " LETS KEEP THIS GOING YOUR MAKING MY JOB EASIER" So please -- keep going because you're giving yourself away!
Lori
Beverly Hills,California,
U.S.A.
The story of Mr Blue Balls
#102UPDATE EX-employee responds
Thu, March 16, 2006
There once was a robin with blue balls
who lived for psychic calls
and with that came greed so great
that he felt the need to berate
any reader who had some success
and demanded changes which caused a big mess!
new rankings that caused experts a loss
while blue balls pretended he was the boss
but karma does come back to bite even blue balls in the @ss
as his house it turns out is made of glass
which shows the truth always comes about
because the guilty ones are always the first to shout!
so consider this a lesson well learned
that accusations are best not returned
as you can see by the exploits of Mr Blue Balls
the bigger he thinks he is
the harder he falls.
Staci
Lake Havasu City,Arizona,
U.S.A.
SHAME ON YOU PENNY CLARK BABSON A.K.A. BROOKE
#102REBUTTAL Individual responds
Thu, March 16, 2006
Penny aka Brooke - you are making yourself more and more transparent with each and every post you make. Go ahead and rant and rave all you like, and fabricate more and more lies, because the longer you go on and the more posts you make, the more people will see you as you really are, and the less they will think of you.
Now I will rebutt the batch of lies in Penny aka Brooke's last post:
1) High number of ratings. It is a well known fact that the volume of ratings nor the ratings percentage is no longer considered a true representation of how good or how bad a psychic is over at Kasamba. The biggest scammers are now way up in the ratings, because they refer their own clients to their various accounts, because they rate themselves (and admit to doing so when they speak with other experts privately), and because they share transcripts of sessions with other scamming psychics.
2) I am not on page 8 nor never was! When Kasamba made their new ranking system -- which now ranks experts according to the money they make on a daily average and not according to how highly they are rated anymore -- they based it on a 60 day period of time during which I was doing the lead in the musical "Fiddler On The Roof" and so was unable to spend as much time as usual working through Kasamba. In that 60 day period of time, I had worked less than 35 days, and so I was placed further back in the listings to page 4 -- NOT page 8. Now I am once again making my way up the listings and am often on page 2 and 3 and never more than 4 pages back. The other night I checked and saw myself appearing on Page 1 once more, so my quality service is once again enabling me to work my way up. I don't need to place fake news releases about myself all over the net in order to bring in clients. I don't need to write a book that is self published in order to proclaim myself to be a "famousE" author or to be famous at all. In fact, someone is writing a book that will be published later this year, in which I am highly featured. The author is not a psychic, he is an author by profession and HE approached ME to have me work with him on his book. The book is to be titled "Courageous Souls".
3) Double-dipping. I have NEVER done any double dipping, and I am incensed that I must defend myself against YOUR baseless accusations. Why is it that you are free to spout your lies which I must spend my own time to defend against instead of having my time and energy available to help others? This seems to be very important to you, PENNY AKA BROOKE, to try to make yourself appear to be something or someone more important by tearing me and other good people down. That is hardly the mark of a truely spiritual woman. In fact, I encourage all who wish to to go and register at PalTalk so they can see the great Penny in action -- and be amazed as she consistently tells people who are longing to hear from their dearly departed loved ones how their loved ones died "from something with the chest - heart or lungs" -- all people have problems like that during their last days or moments! As for double-dipping, it seems to be something your friend Cali first invented by asking people to leave the session, and leave her a 5 star rating, while she meditates and then come back. Maybe she learned this from one of the other famouse scammers on the site, because I know of a few others who do the same thing -- and don't you know they are all on the first page of the listings? If I were a client and knew about such underhanded tactics, I would most certainly NOT want to go to a psychic who lies and cheats his or her way to the top! As for Kasamba, they have proven now with their new ranking system that it's all about the money, and anyone who makes them enough money is rewarded with a high placement regardless of whether they are ethical practitioners or scamming con artists. Some scammers and con artists are very good at getting their cients to rate themselves each and every time - and even multiple times in one day. They even rate themselves! So number of ratings is of no concern to me any longer, as it is also of no concern to Kasamba either.
4) Suspended on Kasamba? Once again Penny you are fabricating a lie out of whole cloth. I have NEVER been suspended from Kasamba but YOU HAVE! Nor have I been "talked to" (your quotes) by Kasamba this week or EVER! It is nowhere in any records because it never happened. But you like having your name all over the net (because it makes you feel important and special and like you're a celebrity) so everything you do or have ever said is public record and not too difficult to research.
5) What ticket last August? Once again PENNY AKA BROOKE you are lieing! I haven't had a ticket of ANY kind in 19 years! Can you make the same claim? Not from what I've heard. You've had plenty of contact with the law, and not on the good side of it either! It's all public record, and you've even talked about some of it yourself!
6) W9 Forms. Who cares? I have ALWAYS reported my earnings to the IRS. It doesn't matter if I've been issued a W9 or not. It's just bad karma and unwise NOT to report all income to the IRS. Once again, PENNY AKA BROOKE, are you bringing this up because YOU are the unethical person who has not reported her kasamba income to the IRS? This came out of YOUR mind, not mine. And as for welfare, I don't get any because i haven't applied for it and I don't need it. I know that YOU have been on welfare for a number of years, as some other website owners you have worked for have reported. So once again YOU are making outrageous and untrue claims that actually stem from YOUR own life, not mine or anyone else's.
Shame on you, Penny Clark Babson! Shame on you for starting this fictitous report, and shame on you for continuing!
Brooke
West Pawlet,Vermont,
U.S.A.
And still you come off foolish
#102UPDATE Employee
Thu, March 16, 2006
And still you come off foolish and uneducated Staci.
You say these things about Ms. Babson yet she is the one with a high rating number at kasamba.. Not you. She is the one Listed on the front page while you are how many.. thats right 8 pages in.And why is it that she is at kasamba if she takes their clients? because her office records when shown to kasamba proved that the clients you are refering to where clients of hers and followed her to kasamba.
We would like to invite anyone reading these to come to www.paltalk.com down load the soft ware and join Penny in her room. and see the free readings penny does each evening at 9 pm est.
Also we would like to point out that Penny has books at amazon.com and all well known book stores on the net and off. Any one can find them at Amazon.com As well does cali's. lets also point out that Robins issue with double dipping only shows in his and his gangs ratings. They are the ones that click people out of sesson to have them come back and rerate. And their reviews show it.
Penny has a lot more ratings then you and yours most of which are five stars so i guess you are barking up the wrong tree with the whole " look at my profile issue" hers is better then any of yours.
Which is another reason why you do these things right? because no one knows you.
Best psychic in the tri state area. I highly dought that. matter of fact no one there has ever heard of you.
Also you forgot to mention when you were suspended on kasamba two years ago for harrashing others and about being " talked" to by kasamba this week for something you posted on the public board insulting other experts.
So before you throw stones make sure you do not live in a glass house. By the way what was it you got that ticket for last Auguest.
lets face it. You and your friends are mad because penny talked to kasamba about making experts file w9 forums . This means most of your gang will stop working at kasamba since they get welfare and SSI and never pay taxes on their money.
yet you are still to foolish to see this doesnt matter to anyone but you. And you are just giveing Impressions Unlimited more clients.
So again I say, " LETS KEEP THIS GOING YOUR MAKING MY JOB EASIER"
Melodie
Los Angeles,California,
U.S.A.
Penny you just never cease to amaze me
#102REBUTTAL Individual responds
Thu, March 16, 2006
No matter how hard you try to disguise your horrible spelling or misuse of language, it's always so obvious who is writing these rebuttals.
You keep forgetting to remove the West Pawlett Vermont from your fake posts!
The difference between your rebuttals and those from the people you've slandered here is that yours are full of lies and theirs (ours) are not. Simple as that.
Penny, you don't have to do this. Really. People are not stalking you. People are not jealousE of your fame. We're doing fine on our own. Notice some of us are above you in the listings and have a lot better ratings. We don't need to put you down as your foul mouth, ignorance and ridiculous claims do that quite nicely on their own.
Please keep posting all those amusing press releases out yourself under all your aliases and keep doing whatever else it takes to promote yourself on the web. We do all need a good laugh from time to time.
Melodie
Los Angeles,California,
U.S.A.
Penny you just never cease to amaze me
#102REBUTTAL Individual responds
Thu, March 16, 2006
No matter how hard you try to disguise your horrible spelling or misuse of language, it's always so obvious who is writing these rebuttals.
You keep forgetting to remove the West Pawlett Vermont from your fake posts!
The difference between your rebuttals and those from the people you've slandered here is that yours are full of lies and theirs (ours) are not. Simple as that.
Penny, you don't have to do this. Really. People are not stalking you. People are not jealousE of your fame. We're doing fine on our own. Notice some of us are above you in the listings and have a lot better ratings. We don't need to put you down as your foul mouth, ignorance and ridiculous claims do that quite nicely on their own.
Please keep posting all those amusing press releases out yourself under all your aliases and keep doing whatever else it takes to promote yourself on the web. We do all need a good laugh from time to time.
Melodie
Los Angeles,California,
U.S.A.
Penny you just never cease to amaze me
#102REBUTTAL Individual responds
Thu, March 16, 2006
No matter how hard you try to disguise your horrible spelling or misuse of language, it's always so obvious who is writing these rebuttals.
You keep forgetting to remove the West Pawlett Vermont from your fake posts!
The difference between your rebuttals and those from the people you've slandered here is that yours are full of lies and theirs (ours) are not. Simple as that.
Penny, you don't have to do this. Really. People are not stalking you. People are not jealousE of your fame. We're doing fine on our own. Notice some of us are above you in the listings and have a lot better ratings. We don't need to put you down as your foul mouth, ignorance and ridiculous claims do that quite nicely on their own.
Please keep posting all those amusing press releases out yourself under all your aliases and keep doing whatever else it takes to promote yourself on the web. We do all need a good laugh from time to time.
Melodie
Los Angeles,California,
U.S.A.
Penny you just never cease to amaze me
#102REBUTTAL Individual responds
Thu, March 16, 2006
No matter how hard you try to disguise your horrible spelling or misuse of language, it's always so obvious who is writing these rebuttals.
You keep forgetting to remove the West Pawlett Vermont from your fake posts!
The difference between your rebuttals and those from the people you've slandered here is that yours are full of lies and theirs (ours) are not. Simple as that.
Penny, you don't have to do this. Really. People are not stalking you. People are not jealousE of your fame. We're doing fine on our own. Notice some of us are above you in the listings and have a lot better ratings. We don't need to put you down as your foul mouth, ignorance and ridiculous claims do that quite nicely on their own.
Please keep posting all those amusing press releases out yourself under all your aliases and keep doing whatever else it takes to promote yourself on the web. We do all need a good laugh from time to time.
Staci
Lake Havasu City,Arizona,
U.S.A.
Penny Clark Babson once again up to her old tricks and lies
#102REBUTTAL Individual responds
Thu, March 16, 2006
I contend that the entries from "Brooke" and from "Jane Cleveland" are once again the fabrications of Penny Clark Babson in her attempts to wreak havoc on the reputations of all named here, particularly robinbluedragon and myself. Notice that one (Brooke) is marked "rebuttal" both times (as if Penny simply changed the name on the account), and the other is marked "rebuttal employee". Penny Clark Babson is notorious for some of the things said in these remarks, such as correcting someone about the proper spelling of John Edward's name. It is something she has done repeatedly in several MSN groups to which she has belonged to in the past, and of which I was also a member at that time. (Now I will have nothing to do with any group that has Ms. Babson in it, as she always seems to create disturbances within any group she is a member of, in an unfortunate attempt to bring attention to herself. It is a pattern she repeats in all the groups to which she belongs, whether they are related to her work or not.) Both rebuttals are full of Penny's slanderous and ignorant style of expressing herself, as any educated person who knows her long enough can attest to.
I want to state publicly that I have never felt I was in competition with anyone - least of all Penny Clark Babson or Cali. But Mrs. Babson seems to feel she is in competition with me, and tries at every opportunity to compare herself to me (the radio shows, the number of clients, et cetera, et cetera, ad infinitum) and tries to show herself as always coming out on top. I don't find that to be a spiritual way of thinking or acting. My attitude is that there is always enough "business" for everyone; there is plenty to go around. The right people who need my services will always be drawn to me. The ones who need the services someone else can supply will be drawn to them. Competition doesn't even enter into my mind, but it sure does with Penny and with some other psychics there -- such as the one who signed themselves as "Robin - Alachua, Florida". I believe that particular person is one of the scamming psychics currently ripping people off for hundred and thousands of dollars at Kasamba by having multiple accounts. It's important to note that everything Robin from Alachua, Florida is accusing robinbluedragon of doing are the very same things she herself has been doing on Kasamba! Thou dost PROJECT too much! (readers of W. Shakespeare will get a chuckle out of that remark, especially if they are educated in the psychology field!)
There is no such thing as robinbluedragon's "gang". There are a few of us aligned together to try to make Kasamba an even playing field, so that every good and ethical practioner may have an equal opportunity to do good work for Kasamba members. And as such, logs of our sessions with clients are NEVER shared as that would interfere with client confidentiality - the sacred trust imbued into our profession, and which we honor. Unfortunately the scamming psychics at Kasamba have been known to share transcripts of their sessions with clients with other psychics -- in fact Penny Clark Babson has been suspended from Kasamba at least one time that I am aware of for doing exactly this unethical practice! She has also been reprimanded for taking Kasamba members off-site to provide services for them AND take their money - thus cutting Kasamba out of the loop and robbing Kasamba of income which they would use to make the website better and to advertise, thereby in effect stealing money from every single Kasamba expert! Is that the kind of person you want to tell your troubles too? Is that who you want to trust? I certainly would not!
Brooke
West Pawlet,Vermont,
U.S.A.
Your lies about Penny must stop. You need help!
#102UPDATE Employee
Thu, March 16, 2006
I find this very amusing myself. I have been a client of Penny's for five years.And have known her all of my life as well as have been her best friend and neighbor for years.
She has never done anything that she is being accused of. I ask you, since you all are indeed so smart, why report this here? Is it because the regular BBB checks claims, and you'd get fined for filing a false one? I am guessing that is correct because posting your trash to this site is basically doing nothing.
As far as posting about her ex husband Do you realize you just made a behind out of yourself? She isn't at fault for anything that he did and you have no clue what she and her family could have went through. I do feel it is low for you to re-traumatize people who have been through so much and I am sure other readers seeing this will agree.
I have noticed Robin Blue Dragon has remarked about her spelling and grammar. So be it of me to be the voice of wisdom but Mr. Blue Dragon you should check your post. If you wish I will repost it for you with the proper spelling and grammar. You really messed up!
To the remarks Staci made: No one cares what proof you have of what. No one cares what shows you have been on or have not. Who are you to judge anyone?
You made a remark about spiritual law and being at a higher level. This posting just proved that you and your friends are as low as the first poster had mentioned. Spiritual people wouldn't attack others the way your group has. You are saying these things Staci while you put Penny and cali's name in your kasamba search tool so that in a site search clients would find you under their names.
To me that, not the advertising Penny does, is extremely low and unethical.I will ad that you are upset that she advertises, lie any good business does, because you werent smart enough to know how. I have noticed mr. Blue Dragon has advertised in the same places that Penny has. Must be he is a faster study then the rest of you. Should I name the list that all of you have attacked with the same claims that you claim against Penny.
No one appointed you some sort of spiritual law officer, To Ready to rid all the world of evil psychics. Evil psychics based on your opinion And by the posts you all have made here let me inform you that opinion isn't looking to good right now. You have made yourselves look like a lynch mob! I'm sure that's not the image you wanted but is the one you have now.
It is very clear that your group doesn't know the first thing about spirituality,penny babson,cali or kasamba! I have seen enough from you to know that you are all just on a jealous ploy, Which I add after four years has gotten you know where.
You're so caught up in your own hate of others that you don't even see that you are only bringing clients to Penny and those you attack.
If you were capable of educated or intelligent thought you'd see that. You would also see that your abuse does no good. Yes I was one of the people who got the emails you sent two years ago after you hacked into Penny's email account.I also was the one who got the cops to check it out!
So you will keep doing this and Penny's staff and family as well as she, will clean up your mess while she works and she will continue to work. Just as will all the others you attack and you will continue to make yourselves look like the sad pathetic individuals that you are.
Ps Mr. Blue Dragon The famous psychic medium you referenced here is John Edward he isn't a same as the one who ran for president John Edwards nor is he plural ( That word means more then one Robin.)
Jane Cleveland
Brooke
West Pawlet,Vermont,
U.S.A.
To funny as always
#102Author of original report
Thu, March 16, 2006
When every your group gets backed up into a cornor you pull this crap about what Ms Babson ex husband did.
Its to funny and to old. Kasamba has all the transcripts from the tons of clients you all have frauded. Scared and harrashed.
You have been doing this for 4 years and its done you no good.
I do the advertising for Impressions Unlimited and Its just that advertisng.
Anyone who runs a business knows you advertise it. You are not of a law of higher power like Satci would like others to think.
You are ran by control and It pissed you off that Penny and Cali will not allow you to control them.
You hack peoples conputers.. stalk any experts that pass you in the ratings and now the victims you have caused finally have enough evidence to get you all fired! And it scares you.
Penny is well known over the net. anyone can get free sample readings from her in paltalk and have.
Matter of fact she has borught a lot of clients to kasamba and can prove that! what have you done?? Shamelessly stalked innocent people like her and cali out of your jelousy. This is do sad to watch you and your weak minded drones . It does you no good and all you are going is:
BRINGING CLIENTS TO PENNY!!! o keep up the good work.. Your just making my job easier.
As far as the radio show " Staci" penny ws on America today live several times as a guest . Not you. she had her own show for a year in paltalk radio NOT you!
Your a hack wonna be actress with little to no talent that is jelous of Penny and cali and they good they have done!
Robin
Alachua,Florida,
U.S.A.
Leader of the PSYCHIC BULLIES GANG and HEAD scammer
#102UPDATE Employee
Thu, March 16, 2006
This man will attack any other reader on kasamba who do spells he will attack them then try to sell his own form of a spell he is wanting to gain a monoploy on spells yet there is no proof that any of his spells will work .
The poor man is dating a reader on the front page who has said he lacks alot in the downstairs department so he trys to make up for this by being a leader of a group called Utopia which is an msn group made up of a bunch of psychic readers who it has been many times repeated by ex members have a secret data base where they can go to swap clients logs and there for giving themselves a higher chance at five star ratings..
This man has been affected by the new rating system which is focused more on talent that fake star rating status and has dramatically fallen down the pages much to his rage.
Another leader in his gang reader female who has stuc up for him M has made it to the head of the list yet continues to attack anytone higher than her because of her apparent love for him and wanting him to herself we are guessing she is thanking him for the use of the data base to get her up the top .
he has allegedly partnered with one EMILY ROSE terri a psychic from indiana made fake yahoo logs and hacked others computers in an attempt to set other readers up for fraud as she herself has apparently used the data base to increase her own position.
She has repeatedly asked other psychics about the hopeful death of her poor husband who ignores her sexually because his last wife was according to one person a Stripper .
She herself has apparently had fantasys about mr dragons and has sided with him to make up fake logs and general attacks on other readers on the site
Add in a women robin from michigan whos had been obsessed by a top reader but because the poor women had a husband and children and wasnt into this women and didnt want to leave them for this women she has taken a hatred and joined the gang. This women had repeatedly offered the reader a plane ticket to leave her husband and the women declined
Partner this with a client and you have a huge set up waiting to happen on the talented front page readers who have been repeatedly asked to join the groups as the gang wanted their data and you have a nightmare for the front page readers this is a clear case of bullying
This gang has also apparently repeatedly made clones of top readers by making identical ids as top readers after the site has approved them under a different name.
They apparerntly hunt down readers emails and bombard them with emails suggesting they are defrauding the site they also write derogatory material on the board repeatedly with out any proof of there allegations they make sure its not their ip posting it but if the readers undre attack reply they all attack them byt writing nasty replies .
They also appararently manipulate top clients to go to the other psychic and stir trouble then if the psychic says anything they report them to kasamba with a copy of the logs. Also has been said that this emily rose charged a top cleint 7.99 a min to destroy another readers reputation
naturally there are many stories and we arnt sure who to believe or which are true but the common theme here is a fight to the top and dirty tactics along the way.
Michael
San Diego,California,
U.S.A.
Penny Clark Babson
#102UPDATE Employee
Thu, March 16, 2006
I have also just joined this site tonight. I never knew this site existed until I saw posts by Penny Clark Babson in other boards referring others to it.
I'm sure she wrote the above reports herself. Her unmistakable butchering of the English language is a dead giveaway.
Penny has been run off numerous boards for these kinds of shenanigans. Nearly 100 % of all of her "press" is self generated even though she uses false addresses and fake names to try to mask her shameless self-promotion.
Here is a recent newspaper article written about Ms. Babson (which by the way she insists was erroneous and that the paper printed a retraction the following day -- none of which is true, the writers of this article confirms there was NEVER a retraction and if you check with them yourself they will be glad to tell you the same):
Bennington Banner
Wife standing by man accused of sexually assaulting girl
By ZACH CHURCH,
Staff Writer
Thursday, November 11, 2004 - BENNINGTON -- The wife of a North Bennington man on trial for sexually assaulting a young girl said in court Wednesday that she doubts his guilt and will stay married.
Penny Babson, an online psychic by trade, told a jury that she is not sure her husband, Barry S. Babson, is guilty of the crimes with which he is charged. The girl Babson is charged with assaulting testified in court on Wednesday.
Barry Babson was arrested in April 2002 for allegedly assaulting three young girls. He was found not guilty in February of sexual assault against one of the girls. Other charges are still pending.
Deputy State's Attorney David Fenster read portions of a letter that Penny Babson wrote to the Banner in May 2002, shortly after her husband was arrested.
In the letter, Babson wrote that she was "very glad Mr. Babson will be possibly getting the help that he needs and can no longer spread this nightmare he has cast on all involved."
Babson said she did write the letter, but that "since then I have learned things that give me doubts about that though."
Answering questions quickly and loudly, Penny Babson rested her hand on her cheek during questioning. She said she was testifying against her will and routinely spoke ill of social workers.
Detective Gary Briggs of the Bennington County Sheriff's Department said Babson told him she had a hole in her floor through which all social workers and cops pass to hell. Apparently because she "liked" him, he was told he could hold open the front gate to the inferno instead, he told the jury.
Barry Babson's trial - most of which was heard in Bennington District Court on Wednesday - is scheduled to conclude on Friday. The 42-year-old is facing a lengthy prison sentence if convicted of sexual assault on a minor and aggravated sexual assault.
Prosecutors spent the day attempting to prove that Babson had assaulted the girl numerous times.
Jurors also heard from seven other witnesses, including the alleged victim and Babson himself.
Barry and Penny Babson, who have been married for more than four years, stay in touch although Barry Babson is in jail. Babson was eventually confronted by his wife about the accusations in early 2002. She asked him point-blank, she said, if he had assaulted the girl.
"(The girl) didn't tell me a lot of details. She just said that he had touched her," she told the court.
Babson said the confrontation took him by surprise.
"I laughed at her at first, because I couldn't believe she was asking me that," he told the jury.
Flatly denying that he ever touched the girl, Babson told the jury about often cooking for her and other children, as well as helped them with their homework.
Because of those activities, Babson is considered to have a "parental role," increasing the weight of the charges against him.
The girl, who now lives in New York State, maintained her composure during questioning, though she was quiet and often did not understand what she was being asked.
She said he assaulted him "many times."
"He said that I had to (do that) because I was bad," she told the jury.
Prosecutors also brought two detectives, the girl's sister and the girl's aunt to the stand. Their stories all followed the same narrative line: That the girl told her sister she had been assaulted and the sister told Penny Babson, who informed others and the police. Barry Babson was arrested the next day.
Jurors also heard testimony from Dr. Nancy Scattergood, a Bennington family practitioner who examined the girl. She said that although she found no evidence of sexual abuse, that does not necessarily mean that none occurred.
"With my exam, I couldn't come to any conclusions," she said, but she added that the girl described much of the alleged assault to her.
Jurors will hear closing arguments in the case on Friday. Other witnesses may also be called.
Babson was found innocent on Feb. 25 of assaulting another young girl. At the time, Bennington County State's Attorney William Wright said prosecuting attorneys had a challenge ahead of them. "This is a difficult case," Wright said in March. "We were without forensic evidence so we had to rely on the victim's testimony for proof." He said two other cases against Babson, which included Wednesday's, could face the same problems.
Before his 2002 arrest, Babson was employed by a used furniture dealer in North Bennington. Before that, he worked at the Bennington Station restaurant in Bennington.
This article is still available for download on the Bennington Banner's Website.
Michael Ericson
Robin
New Washington,Ohio,
U.S.A.
An expert on the site
#102REBUTTAL Individual responds
Thu, March 16, 2006
This is some misguided attempt to draw attention to herself by Penny Clark Babson,a reader on the same site I work on. She doesnt even disguise it very well,even going so far as to leave her real hometown in 'Brook's' posting. I dont know what her poor delusional mind is thinking,but apparently she blames me for some client posting to this site about her. I could care less what Ms Babson says or does as long as it doesnt involve me,as I do not associate with people with her lack of ethics,and lack of morals. She may talk a good game..she has to cause she sure cant spell it..but when it comes down to it, she has been suspended from the site a few times,gotten in trouble in various ways through her tricks,abuses,schemes and dire need for attention,and has been reported for posting this nonsense about me as well.
I have never had a client by the name she used,am a fast typist and a decent speller who knows how to use correct grammer as a rule,have nevber had a 3000 dolalr session nor will I since I odnt believe anything I do is worth that much,have never asked a client to go offsite,and would challange to see any proof of that allegation as there is none,I always tell my clients there are no such things as curses and that the only way they can hurt you is to allow yourself to believe in them,I have never read for a Brook or a Dawn in 4 years of excellently rated service on the site,and have never ever asked a client to pay me any where but through Kasamba,and Kasamba can prove that easilly by looking through my transcripts...I doubt Miss Babson would be so willing to let that occur.
I make no rediculous claims as does this expert Penny Babson of talking to the dead,John Edwards is not my hero,and have never had a reading for her or with her,nor would I care to from what clients have said about her lack of ability. I am a wiccan and do take the spiritual side of this seriously,and wish Miss Babson could show some spirituality herself and get the help she apparently needs so badly. I believe some medication would help and maybe then she could stop printing stuff like this to bolster her own failed self image,which,when exposed tothe harsh light of day,NEVER stands up...she should go back to mental health in West Pawlet and perhaps they can help her...again.
It should also be noted I just joined this site tonight,for this rebuttal,and had never been here before which I guess can be confirmed by the site as well.
I also know these other experts she attacks here,and know them to be of high moral and etical character,not at all as she attempts to portray them. They are fine experts who try to help people with their issues and steer them toward a path most beneficial to the client. Amber,Rev.Staci,Melodie and myself would be considered examples of excellence on the site,as our high averages attest,and the fact that it isnt about the money,it is about helping people.I personally do a lot of free and discounted things for clients,and work with Kasamba to help see unethical experts removed form the site. There are a lot of good honest people there on the site...perhaps Miss Babson could some day be one of them and stop this sort of attention grabbing childishness.
Zelda
Mechanicsville,Virginia,
U.S.A.
False Statements
#102Consumer Comment
Thu, March 16, 2006
I have had psychic readings with Robin bluedragon as well as others mentioned in this report and know for a fact that this report was placed out of vindictivness and not actual facts. I'm sure anyone reading this report will see that it was posted out of meaness and not as a true warning against these experts.
If you want an HONEST expert I highly recommend Robin Bluedragon. Everything he has predicted for me has come to pass and I find that AMAZING as I never thought someone could be 100% accurate!
Melodie
Los Angeles,California,
U.S.A.
Also If this second post
#102REBUTTAL Individual responds
Thu, March 16, 2006
If this second post is from the original owner as claimed, why did the poster's name and address change? Do you see how insidious this vile woman is?
Melodie
Los Angeles,California,
U.S.A.
Sad see my feedback for yourself
#102REBUTTAL Individual responds
Thu, March 16, 2006
This is really a sad attempt by Penny Clark Babson to deflect onto others.
Nothing she claimed above, under her fake names is true.
She publicizes herself all over the internet with these same fake names, her "office staff" like Lisa White and Brooke Weston. They are her, they have the same horrible misspellings and better yet the same IP addresses as their originating source.
Nothing she claims is true, least of all what is said in these reports. And it's a shame she has to go to such pathetic lengths to get attention.
Anyone who really wants to research her, take a moment to look through all the lies, innuendos and self-agrandizing posts and then come to your own conclusions.
I am signing my own name. I'm not hiding behind some false "fan" name. If you want to contact me about this, I will be happy to set the record straight. Or you can visit me on Kasamba.com and see my feedback for yourself.
Blessings, Melodie
Staci
Lake Havasu City,Arizona,
U.S.A.
Don't believe everything you read. The above report was filed by a jealous psychic!
#102REBUTTAL Individual responds
Thu, March 16, 2006
1) I have NEVER read for any client by the name of "Dawn" in my 27 years of professional practice - either over the internet or the phone or in my home office. I have no clients with the first or last name of Dawn.
2) It is my opinion that the above report is from a well known internet psychic by the name of Penny Clark Babson. Penny Clark Babson has stalked me all over the internet ever since I first began working at Kasamba -- even posing as another "famousE (her spelling) radio psychic" (my own credentials, as I had my own radio show during 1996 and 1997, broadcast in the upper northeastern part of the U.S.) when she contacted me at one internet web site through an email. It took me 2 years but I finally got her to admit publically that she was the one who stalked me and wrote that email, and I still have the exact transcripts where she admitted to it. Penny Clark Babson has admitted to having a serious mental disorder, Bipolar Disorder, and it seems she stays up nights fabricating many such fantasies, and writing various articles about herself, using a fake name as the writer, which she posts all over the internet in order to make the claim that she is the internet's top psychic (only in her own mind, apparently).
3) The reason for this fictitious report is that someone posted a report on this website yesterday naming Penny and Cali. Someone brought this to the attention of Kasamba members just this morning, and I stated that it didn't suprise me that these reports are getting to the internet because Kasamba isn't cleaning house and taking the psychics who are big scammers off the website. I never mentioned Penny, but she took umbrage and acted as if I had, claiming I had been stalking her, and that one of my friends wrote the report yesterday. In fact, no one I know stalks Penny or Cali, least of all myself. Penny's various illnesses make her crave to be the center of attention, make her say outrageous and outlandish untruths to the point where she doesn't even remember her own lies.
4) When doing any work for a client who wants me to contact someone who has passed on, I have only asked for a 'death date' once, and that was 3 years ago. I have NEVER asked for a death location! The whoe report is fabricated, and I believe it was written by Penny herself, who actually used a spell checker this one time. Penny has written so much publicity about herself using "assumed names" why should she do it any differently this time? I have all my client names on a data base, and since I always ask for a first name and birthdate it is easy for me to see that i have never had a client by the name of Dawn, either on Kasamba or in my own private practice. This is yet another fine example of Penny Clark Babson's smear tactic!
As for the other psychics she names, robinbluedragon and Melody, it is the same thing. Penny has developed a complex or fixation of some sort, and maybe she even believes her lies by now and feels these other people are out to get her. But she is wrong. There is a LOT of scamming going on at Kasamba, but it is not from Melody or robinbluedragon or myself.
If you are looking for a good psychic, I recommend you take the time to do the research. Find an educated person with degrees and professional certifications. If someone says they are 100% accurate, they are a liar because only God is that accurate. If someone tells you they can bring you lover back guaranteed, or wants you to pay them lots and lots of money for spells, candles, aura cleansing, etc, run the other way and have nothing to do with that psychic. Do not let fear rule you. Go to HONEST AND ETHICAL psychics -- of which I am one. I am Board Certified by many professional organizations -- that means I had to complete written tests, verbal tests, and display my skills as a psychic and therapist in order to become certified. Something Penny Clark Babson has never done nor would ever be able to do.
*****Please note that I (and the majority of other readers involved in spiritual professions) ascribe to higher laws of ethics and morality. What this means is that I'm personally dedicated to honoring those standards during my sessions with you. I want your experience to be empowering and insightful, even if the information you receive is not what you wanted to hear. I will treat you with honesty and integrity in all of my dealings with you and I hope that you will expect nothing less from other advisors. If for any reason your experience with a reader leads you to believe that you're being conned or scammed -- such as being asked for unreasonable amounts of money to remove a curse, change your luck, or restore your health, please leave the session and report your experiences to the proper authorities. You should never be made to feel afraid or that your destiny is outside of your own hands.*****
Brooke
West Pawlet,Vermont,
U.S.A.
Why is Robin Blue Dragon so Blue
#102Author of original report
Wed, March 15, 2006
It seems he is harrashing and stalking experts at kasamba.com and using other experts to be his lackies as well. he resent accused well known rule abiding experts of double dipping. This means he felt they clicked out of session so a person could call back and they could get two ratings in feedback. He hounded kasamba propers to fix this.
They did alright.
They fixed things so wel that now not only can he and his friends not do that any more but he was pushed a few pages back in the listings so clients can no longer find him! he has pi**ed a lot of workers at kasamba off as well.
Now he keeps going on the net trashing experts. he has been doing that with the help of some of friends for 4 years now and have gotten no where.
Wonder why he is blue?? he is starting to see his own karma bite him in the behind!