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Complaint Review: Kasamba Experts Sharing Client Information

Kasamba Experts Sharing Client Information, Kasamba scams Cali Babson Sage trancripts frauds Beaverton, Oregon Internet

  • Reported By:
    woodstock Georgia
  • Submitted:
    Mon, January 14, 2008
  • Updated:
    Mon, February 11, 2008
*Consumer Suggestion: Funny think is: *Author of original report: This is disturbing *Consumer Suggestion: Wow *Consumer Comment: Are there any independant readers on Kasamba? *Consumer Suggestion: And again.... *Consumer Comment: Very few *REBUTTAL Individual responds: Christine - Who are you and WHY would you lie? *REBUTTAL Individual responds: More lies from "Christine" who is really an expert at Kasamba *Consumer Suggestion: There is no proof *Consumer Comment: The postings between readers is for real *Consumer Comment: The postings between readers is for real *Consumer Comment: The postings between readers is for real *Consumer Comment: The postings between readers is for real *Author of original report: Interesting *Consumer Comment: another thread that has turned into the Iris the Messenger, Karen, Toni Dog and Evil Show *Consumer Suggestion: Oz lol *Consumer Suggestion: Chris *Consumer Comment: More Dog and Pony show but still the same 3 ring of fools *REBUTTAL Individual responds: LMAO at GotMe! *REBUTTAL Individual responds: False claims run rampant at ROR *Consumer Suggestion: Have to excuse *Author of original report: Toni *Consumer Suggestion: Toni.............. *Author of original report: Toni is lying *Consumer Suggestion: I suppose *UPDATE Employee: Missing Links *Consumer Comment: How on earth did you come up with that crap? *Consumer Comment: Lucy *Consumer Suggestion: Karen/Penny *UPDATE Employee: The only person I have posted as is this one *UPDATE Employee: You people just dont get it do you.... *Consumer Comment: Erik/Robin *Consumer Comment: Erik/Robin *UPDATE EX-employee responds: Thanks Robin/Eric *Consumer Comment: Extraordanirly gifted???? *Consumer Comment: Extraordanirly gifted???? *Consumer Comment: Extraordanirly gifted???? *Consumer Comment: Extraordanirly gifted????

I keep seeing posts about experts sharing client information in the KU group and notice many pointing the fingers are members of another group, called AllPsychicMasters.

This group is headed up by the Kasamba experts Cali and Scorpio Sage. I was a member of this group, but unjoined after I saw all the petty mean-spirited attacks in this group (both against other experts and clients).

They have a list of experts to avoid w/more than 40 names. Most of the them the more successful experts on the site. Certain experts target other experts (for Erik Peters it's David James and watchman Aquia, for Cali its robin Blue Dragon, for for Penny it's Amber, Rhiannon and Stacie) more than others but those 40 names are all people that the experts in this group claim to have problems with.

These goons freely discuss clients in this group and include details about them (such as names, birthdays, boyfriends names and other very specific details about each client). They also warn each other about clients who rate less than 5 stars. They have a list of problem clients that was over 100 when I left but there are many others discussed on the message boards.

There were 50 members of this group when I left, but some weren't active in the group, never posted, just lurked. they could be clients posing as experts for all anybody knows.

There are only a few that post frequently but those few are the ones who do the most damage. Those are Scorpio Sage, Cali, Vanga Child, CandyBarr, Ellen Strella, Penny Babson, Amphora Blue, Eric Peters, and PsychicMagicSong. There are a few others but these are the worst. Many of these people are on the WAHM boards too.

I think it's telling that most of the people who have been blasted on these boards are not in that group. (I think Iris the messenger was in the group when I left and so was xpsychicvisionx, so those are exceptions). I wonder if that's because most of the people jealously attacking other more successful readers are a part of this group. Notice how most of them are the lower rated experts.

But if you want to talk about who is sharing client information and warning other experts about clients get a load of this (and now you know why I left!):

From: midnitemerald (Ellen Strella)
I just did two five star readings in the past hour so I should be back up to 4.76 today. I've actually found that I get better clients and better ratings at .75 a minute than I do at .99 a minute. I have the Problem Clients List printed out and taped to the wall next to my computer and I always check it before allowing the client to hire.

I don't feel as if my ratings are that bad considering the two bad ones were Pherarose and the woman who changed personalities in the middle of the reading. I think the four star rating option is deceiving to clients. Many probably think four stars are like an A- when, in fact, it's a B-. A lot of people just don't believe in giving five stars.

From: scorpiosage (Scorpio Sage):
Delaney,
This one will try you a few times, from what I remember.
Her most likely MO, she will contact you, then once you talk about money will make sure that you answer questions before she hires you, but, she will not actually hire you at all, ever.
She truely has only hired people that she wanted to give 1 star to, from what I have seen at least.
You can block her, but, apparently, not from emailing you.
Love and Light

From: CaliEAK (Cali)
Beware of Client: xxxxx Mem ID xxxxx This client came in and asked a very general question about her love life. I started answering her and she said I was right on with what I was seeing.Later on in the session she started in and said that LAST YEAR I had told her some other guy was going to return to her and he did not and this is the same as last year.

She also stated that MANY other psychics all told her last year the same thing I did and we were all wrong.
Then she asked some other unrelated questions, stayed in long enough to spend $140 and then typed that "you don't know what you are talking about".And then left me a lovely 1 star rating LOL SO she could be targeting others, keep an eye out on this one!

From: Delaney2821 (PsychicMagicSong)
yeah, you got hit by xxx there I saw. :( She can be nasty. Once you get that five stars back up, which you only need one more five star rating to do---I might recommend raising your rate a little too here. There are quite a few who go to reader to reader who pick the new readers with lower rates so that they can afford this habbit--and some of then tend to be pretty harsh raters/ unhappy people. If you go through a couple pages of the new experts profiles/ ratings you will see a trend in a lot of the same people rating negatively, even posting the same negative comment on the pages of multiple readers.

From: Iliana1469 (Vanga Child)
xxxx: Had a reading recently with her... Asking about a man she had not heard from him for 5 months after they broke up . I did not see in my reading any chance for him to call her and I told her that . She got upset and say that all other readers are telling her that he will call in few days...!!?? Left bad rating for hearing what I saw for her...and her comments were not true at all....Take her on your own risk. Quite disturbed client.

From: Candybarr1 (Clairvoyant Candybarr)
This client came to me almost a month ago, and he cut off after one minute, which led me to believe he was a bad rater. He didn't leave a rating at the time but before his 30 days to leave a rating were up, he left a 1 star. Since he waited so long to rate, maybe was a target too. So, just be aware of client xxxx.

From: Delaney2821 (PsychicMagicSong)
Okay everyone, watch out for a client by the name of "xxxx". All through the session she told me how accurate I was, that she was going to cry...that my descriptions were dead-on etc.....ended the session with a big thank you and " love & light" to me. Well, about a half an hour later she sent me an email telling me that she was not disappointed in the reading or the news I gave her, but that she was disappointed that she had spent money on it.

Oookay, I thought that was odd, but sent her a polite email saying I was sorry she felt that way, and gave her a little more information and tried to turn things in a positive direction.

She left me a two star rating...but the kicker is that, in the feedback she says that I was excellent, but that she is upset that she spent " 100's" on the reading for someone who doesn't matter. So basically she is not rating my service, but rather that she made the choice to spend money on it. Not to mention, she lied about spending 100's.....she spent a little over 100, yes, but not in plural.... I also gave her about ten minutes of free time as well. If this was a rating on my service, I would suck it in...but it isn't...it is just someone being bitter. It would be like eating a meal, and after it is gone complaining about having bought it even though your enjoyed it.

I just am upset, because it will whack my average down from 4.96 to 4.94 as well. Those two little points do make a difference, and will most likely take like 150 five star readings to regain.

I sent an email into Kasamba asking to look at the situation and the email exchange...pointed out that she is not rating my actual service, and that she lies in the feedback about how much she spent on the session. Shall see, but I doubt they will take any action...will most likely send me one of thier automated responses about their rating system being perfect. ::sigh::

From: PennyClarkBabson (Penny Babson)
When you read her she acts very nice. Some hat impatient but nice and then doesnt rate. Only to come back two or thre days latter and rate badly.
I think someone else mentioned her to me before but I forgot to write her down. I am putting her on my block client list but wnated you guys to know she is out there.

From: CaliEAK (Cali)
I had a similar problem with him. After two readings I think it was he decided to be very rude and try to control what I was saying. I ended up clicking out and blocking him. He has since tried to get back in contact but I keep him firmly on my blocked list and just close out ANY email he sends.
I heard from others too Mike that he has been extremely rude lately and has even accused all readers of being liars etc.
So this is definitely one to avoid!!

From: Psychic_Moderator (Erik Peters)
Be careful with this one. Asking about her fiance who left her. She does not have his dob. Only his name which I failed to take note of. Wants a yes or no answer as if he will come back.

Picked up that there were some major issues with their families and that because of that there is no hope of him coming back. I did the reading for free but was weary of letting it go on. I cut her off and blocked her. She sent me a message with the following:
I was asking you to tell me if he is coming back or not, I know that if the family do this and that he will come back if not he will not. tell me something what i don;t know!!! I know all what you told me So much for appreciating that I picked up on something that she didn't tell me and that I did the reading for free. I allready answered that question in the live chat anyways. He is not coming back. She knows why he isn't coming back and can't.
Take at your own risk. Unless you outright lie to her you run the risk of getting a very very poor rating as she is looking to shoot the messenger.
Erik

From: scorpiosage (Scorpio Sage)
She always states her full name and a guy's full name and date of birth for both.
xxxx ,bdate is xxxx,and i would like to know if me and my boyfriend xxxx,have a future together,and whats going thro his head?...his bdate is xxxx,Thanks much
I had to give you this personal information just so that you can know who it is, becuase she does give the same information every time, but doesn't have the same memid every time.

From: Psychic_Moderator (Erik Peters)
Hi guys, I almost read for her and she disconnected before I got started. I noticed afterwards that she can be a bad rater. Wanted to know if anyone had her and if you had any feedback.
Thanks,
Erik

From: PennyClarkBabson
I am glad you mentioned this. This particular client will also use other experts names to get experts to read for her.She told me that she was a client of Cali's and that Cali recommended her to me.I thought this was odd because when Cali does that she tells me and vise versa.
So if she uses another experts name know that is part of her scam. She got a email reading from me and then she declined it and refused to pay. Then afterwards , emailed me back and tried to get more information from me.
I was raised in a small Vermont hick town by an old Vermonter and was taught," Screw me once, shame on you. Screw me twice, Shame on me" So I told her that I would only read for her in chat in the hire mode.I haven't heard from her since

From: Psychic_Moderator (Erik Peters)
I have had her too. She told me that she suffers from mental condition so she is not very stable at the best of times. I did notice that she did give some readers five stars but I would not take a chance on her. I tried for 2 minutes and blocked her before she could hire.
Try googling her screen name. Very interesting.

From: Iliana1469 (Vanga Child)
Yes Del,
That is exactly what happened to me.. She is arguing all the time and does not understand that the problem is within her...Few months ago I told her to let go . It was very clear message I got that he is not interested and I even told her why.Then she bacame arguing ...Today I gave her advise and good prayer to calm her down and help her see thing clear...she got upset siad that if she wants to pray will go to the church..and she is calling to find out why xxxxx is not interested and instead I am telling her how to "betray" her love for him???!

It is time to cut of this psycho... It is such a waste of time...but I am sure she will get one of the new readers here and abuse them for a while....So pitty...
Iliana

From: PennyClarkBabson (Penny Babson)
"xxxxxx" bad ratings rates one star when asking if a person she hasnt been with in 12 years will come back. was an odvous expert of expert sent bad rater kasamba has been nitified be on the look out.

From: CaliEAK (Cali)
OK this can no longer be considered a coincidence or an "off" day.. For the 2nd day in a row I received an email request for a reading with a very vague question. I replied that I needed their birthday and a more specific question.

After preparing them a very lengthy email reading for the $5 they paid I was rewarded with a 2 star and a snarky comment....After weeks of getting nothing but 5 stars, maybe a 4 star here or there... all the sudden a 1 and a 2 star in a two day span? This is royally sucking.
Oh and for reference xxx (memID xxx) is the 1 star rater and xxxxx (memID xxx) is the 2 star rater. so beware of these ones!!

Christine
woodstock, Georgia
U.S.A.

38 Updates & Rebuttals


S

London,
Europe,
United Kingdom

Extraordanirly gifted????

#39Consumer Comment

Mon, February 11, 2008

Are you for real Andrea?

As someone who has had 2 readings with you in the past....I am in a position to challenge that statement.

Deluded more like.


S

London,
Europe,
United Kingdom

Extraordanirly gifted????

#39Consumer Comment

Mon, February 11, 2008

Are you for real Andrea?

As someone who has had 2 readings with you in the past....I am in a position to challenge that statement.

Deluded more like.


S

London,
Europe,
United Kingdom

Extraordanirly gifted????

#39Consumer Comment

Mon, February 11, 2008

Are you for real Andrea?

As someone who has had 2 readings with you in the past....I am in a position to challenge that statement.

Deluded more like.


S

London,
Europe,
United Kingdom

Extraordanirly gifted????

#39Consumer Comment

Mon, February 11, 2008

Are you for real Andrea?

As someone who has had 2 readings with you in the past....I am in a position to challenge that statement.

Deluded more like.


S

London,
Europe,
United Kingdom

Erik/Robin

#39Consumer Comment

Mon, February 11, 2008

I have not as yet made comment about you one way or another.

The simple reason is because a) I have never had a reading with you and b) I know nothing about you apart from the much publicised fact that you run KU. (of which I know very little about as well).

I only post regarding my own experiences, so that by sharing information with other CLIENTS - we may do ourselves a favour and not get ripped off, or know who has ripped as off in the past. I appreciate listening to other's experiences and views and will continue to do so.

I also post my opinions when appropriate, in context of the thread in question.

WE ALL KNOW, it is a fact that fake scamming experts use this site to damage each other, and to defend themselves in the most unethical ways when a client has the decency to share their bad experiences with other real clients.

WE ALL KNOW it is a fact that as well as using multiple names on Kas, fake scamming experts post here under different names.

That is why there is debate and questioning between the real clients, when certain posts are made. To try to establish what is real and what is not. That is NOT OUR FAULT. That is the fault of the experts who USE this forum for the above reasons.

It is us, not you and other so called experts who has the right to have a problem about it.

You have stated so many times, that you (and I quote) "couldn't give a d**n" and "as long as my clients come to me and are happy that's all that matter's" so PLEASE put you money where your mouth is and stop this egocentric nonsense where it's all about "everyone blame me". Most post's here are nothing to do with you. Only the ones where fake experts are dissing you. I for one read them, make my own mind up and move on. I for one am simply not that interested. Obviously I cannot speak for other's, but judging from the replies and responses between you and certain other's, it appears Im not the only one with that view.

Therefore, I take GREAT OFFENCE to your random posts about "sick twists" and "taking too many drugs" etc etc. IF you really have to post these posts. Direct them to whom they are meant for. Unless they are really meant for everyone who posts on here. In which case, you are totally out of order. This site was meant for clients who have been RIPPED OFF! we are not these things you state.

IF you are at all ethical Robin/Erik,you will take this on board, apologise and accept that actually, clients do have a right to share information, inform other's to stop it happening to them and feel some empathy for us that we have to deal with all this crap inbetween.


Andrea

Rossville,
Georgia,
U.S.A.

Thanks Robin/Eric

#39UPDATE EX-employee responds

Mon, February 11, 2008

For a long time, everyone has pounded down my door with this "You are in KU" stuff. Thank you for finally setting the record straight that I never was. I appreciate it.

As for you Clair... karma will catch up to you I'm sure. It may not mean much to you to drag everyone else's names through the mud, but we are people just trying to make a living, and just happen to be extraordinarily gifted. While some of the names on your list are probably correct, the majority of them are not. I think that you must be very very confused.

I have never personally spoken with Iris. I find that from what I have heard of her that she is a very gifted person. I don't know this personally, but I have heard only good things about her.
As far as me being Katie... I said once before that I will never step into the personal lives of anyone else besides me (and I can speak for myself). Katie is not me.
Considering that everyone you have called out has said that this is NOT them... I would assume that this is pretty much fake.
And yeah, thats all I have to say about that.

~Andrea


Lucy

Skysville,
Other,
Australia

Erik/Robin

#39Consumer Comment

Mon, February 11, 2008

The trouble is, Kasamba doesn't do anything about the standard of the people they allow to sign up as experts. There are so many fakes and readers with next to no talent on there. If they did take notice of the clients and gave clients as much priority as they give their bank balance, we wouldn't be here complaining. Simple as that.


Erik

Pittsfield,
Massachusetts,
U.S.A.

You people just dont get it do you....

#39UPDATE Employee

Mon, February 11, 2008

....so just make up whatever you want to. You will anyway.
Psychic Visions and Iris the Messenger havent been in KU.
No one from KU is attacking Dr Love...I asked in the public forum about his gender,he answered,end of story.Or it should have been. Some one took the conversation from the forum in Kasamba and replayed it here,showing they are about as honest as a snake,as they will pose as a reader to be in Kasamba only to steal information that they re-interpate with their own special twists.
I only use this name on RoR.
I dont think most of those people you listed are wasting their time here making up fake names and so forth...and dont see what proof you have they are. Oh thats right,YOU dont need proof....your allegations are supposed to be enough.
KU doesnt attack ANYONE...it is a reader support group,not the horror show you sick twists have tried to make it be. It is expert helping expert honestly and ethically,not denegrating the profession by sharing info and so forth...thats those other group sI guess ,I am not in them so I dont know.
Please,try to use some FACTS when you post your drivel,and show some PROOF too.
People who have real complaints would be emailing Kasamba anyway,not ranting and raving here....you really need to get lives and find something productive to do.


Karen

Henderson,
North Carolina,
U.S.A.

Karen/Penny

#39Consumer Suggestion

Sun, February 10, 2008

I do not know who wrote that insanity but I am NOT Penny! I DO NOT have ANY friends on the Kasamba site. I do NOT KNOW anyone who works on that Kasamba site. My goodness! Granted their are kasamba readers out here posing as clients, etc but I am NOT one of them. lol.

Hey, you have to give them credit for making a effort but I am sure not all names on that list is wrong but I KNOW mine is!


Erik

Pittsfield,
Massachusetts,
U.S.A.

The only person I have posted as is this one

#39UPDATE Employee

Sun, February 10, 2008

I really think some of you take too many drugs or something...or you think that by blaming me for everything in some way,as usual with no bit of truth or proof,you can feel better about yourselves. Sorry life doesnt work that way. blame me all you want for your sorry lives,and blame me too for the guilt you must feel for attacking me and other readers pointlessly,and for making up one thing after another to do nothingmore then to purposelly hurt someone. Thats a pretty miserable and pathetic way to run your lives though and frankly it isnt hurting me,so it is jst a waste.If you really wanted to do something and HAD SOME PROOF of anything,you wouldnt post here,you would email Kasamba about it...they run the site,not me.


Augusta

Stroudsburg,
Pennsylvania,
U.S.A.

Lucy

#39Consumer Comment

Sun, February 10, 2008

Lucy - I know what you mean. I read that post and laughed to myself - they really do not get that there are clients who have had some positive and negative experiences with that site and wish to share so other clients have a bit more insight when they go to select someone and spend their money. I have no gripe with any reader other than to say that I have had very little luck with any of them actually giving me predictions that happen even in a little way. Or guidance that actualy reflected the reality of the situation as I would find out later. There were a couple who came up with some information that I found later to be true but still no predictions happened.

My feelings are now that the feedback cannot be trusted (since I read them carefully and yet I do not get the same results as these "clients" who have such amazing results) and that the logs should be taken away from readers within 30 days (same as our rating period!) . This would end the potential sharing of information and make each new read fresh.


Lucy

Skysville,
Other,
Australia

How on earth did you come up with that crap?

#39Consumer Comment

Sun, February 10, 2008

I have no link to ANY expert on Kasamba other than as a client. I stated my experience with Amber and Simone, which was positive. I've also stated my experience with Iris, which was also positive.

You Kasamba experts just don't get it do you! The majority of us are genuinely clients sharing OUR information about the experiences WE had as CLIENTS because we don't want to get ripped off anymore, and we don't want anyone else to get ripped off. Just like you Kasamba experts have your little groups and share your client information, this is where the clients can share ours. Some of you people really need a reality check.


Clair

Puxico,
Missouri,
U.S.A.

Missing Links

#39UPDATE Employee

Sat, February 09, 2008

Christine is Nicola ever in defense of KU.

Boring.
Snoreee
BTW, FYI I know who was in All Psychic Masters and who wasn't, half of the people "Christine" aka Nicola says were in it, weren't. For one.. I didn't notice that Penny or Cali was in it, nor was Psychic Visions and Iris the Messenger (though both of them were in KU at one point (these two spinsters are friends(used to refer in their profiles), and both left in July 2007) when they turned tail with their self righteous "Its not right whats going on here" attitudes... although they are all chummy(Notice PV conveniently steps into Iris's posts to defend her). Lets tell the real story; It wasn't about information sharing was it now? ITM left when they (KU) decided to go after her buddy Dr Love (as seen in the new ROR sensation) and PV left after they targetted the porn phenom Chris P. Aw! You two are loyal! Cute! Won't get you over here however :) They were goodie two shoes "oh don't information share, don't target my friends" types, and thats not really the going rate over at Kasamba. :) Its K though, they've both gotten what they deserved, a handful of rip offs, and I hope they've learned something for their sad rejected efforts.
"KR" on the other hand and their reject "twenty somethin" (she may as well be 13) leader..HRM... ~wink~ :) Not naming names of course! :)
Ohh and Toni, we get it. Toni..Cali.. not much difference.

I should post a guide to who everyone is for further refereral. (if and a big IF any real clients do come here......... )
Christine = Nicola (ku)
Karen = Penny Clark (kr)
Toni = Cali (kr)
Lucy = Simone P (ip)
Erik = Robin Bluedragon (ku)
Anna, or Annie = Melodie (ku)
Patricia = Amber Humphreys (ip)
Janice = Janice AKA Spiritual Readings on Kasamba (ip)
Friends Husband = Robin Bluedragon (ku)
Freya = Christopher P (suspected deal with kr)
Got Me = Jasper (ip)
Katie = Psychic Visions (kr)
Augusta = Rev Staci. (ku)
Rosie, Brittany, Ashley etc = MysticCharmer (kr)
Dr Loves Profile Edit Button = Robin Bluedragon (ku)
Mirror of Life/SpiritualVoyant = Mirror of Life (suspected deal with kr)
Iris the Messenger = Iris (kr)

We could tie them all together if you'd like, but I'll leave that up to you. To break it down into simpler terms, notice who buddies around on here, why? They know who each other. If you will notice, Christine buddies with the KU group, which would be common since she is tied with Melodie (anna, annie), and friends husband, dr loves profile edit button, erik (robin bluedragon), augusta (rev staci).
Then look at how Lucy jumps in to defend herself in the SP/Amber thread.
Then look at how Freya and Katie defend Christopher Pornstar in his threads.
Then look at Rosie and Brittany's accusations when MC is a well established member of the only other group that rivals KU.
Then look at how Got Me constantly attacks Iris.
Look how Karen and Toni buddy up and of course the occasional "yes you're right" from the non Ku's who buddy on up to them.
Nuff' Said here folks! READ BETWEEN THE LINES! WHOA NELLI!


Karen

Henderson,
North Carolina,
U.S.A.

I suppose

#39Consumer Suggestion

Fri, February 08, 2008

I suppose you are talking about the MSN/Yahoo Groups. Well, anyway; Good luck and have a good weekend.


Christine

Woodstock,
Georgia,
U.S.A.

Toni is lying

#39Author of original report

Thu, February 07, 2008

You have to be in the psychic category to belong to that group.

You have to belong to that group to know who is a member.

You have to be a member to know how long that group has been active or non active.

Toni is in the psychic category and is actually one of the people listed above. Most people know who she is


Karen

Henderson,
North Carolina,
U.S.A.

Toni..............

#39Consumer Suggestion

Sat, February 02, 2008

What Toni HAS said on several occassions is that she IS a expert on kasamba but NOT a PSYCHIC expert on that site. She has stated that the expert forum on kasamba is for ALL experts that work on the site and NOT just for psychic experts. Wanted to clear that up for you. The other stuff in regard to yahoo or msn group I cannot speak of because I do not know.

Good Luck


Christine

Woodstock,
Georgia,
U.S.A.

Toni

#39Author of original report

Sat, February 02, 2008

Use the little arrow button yourself, no-one said this was a yahoo group. In fact it is not its a MSN group. Meaning there's no way to tell how active or inactive the group is if you aren't a member. sweetie.

it took you a matter of minutes to come over here and post all your inside info on a group you claim to be not a part of, and a few minutes more to post your inside info of the kasamba expert forums which you also claim to be not a part of. You wouldn't of known who's in the membership list if your not an expert. You wouldn't of known the ins and outs of the kasamba forums either.

You tried to cover your back by pretending it was a yahoo group but it's not a yahoo group, sweetie. So how did you know if it was inactive or not unless your a member?


Karen

Henderson,
North Carolina,
U.S.A.

Have to excuse

#39Consumer Suggestion

Thu, January 31, 2008

Iris, Got Me is chasing his tail right about now. So its best just to laugh when you see a GotMe post with your name attached to it.


Iris

Beverly Hills,
California,
U.S.A.

False claims run rampant at ROR

#39REBUTTAL Individual responds

Tue, January 29, 2008

Christine - I can't even find a group called AllPsychicMasters? The only thing showing up under Google is some group that's been inactive for a long time! I was NEVER part of a group with that name, so I don't know where you get your information. I WAS part of a group called KasambaUtopia (KU), but haven't been there in THREE YEARS!

So I would like PROOF that this AllPsychicMasters group even exists. You are welcome to post the link here. I would also like proof that I was in it? Where on earth do you get your bogus information? You should really get your facts straight instead of disseminating falsehoods.

Don't you know by now that ANYONE can claim to be ANYONE on the Internet? I could create a user name of GotMe and all of a sudden start praising myself! Wow, there's an idea. LOL

And GotMe, what can I say? You are one boring broken record, emphasis on the word "broken." I am sorry you are such a sad, angry, miserable, vindictive person. Even when I don't post responses here, you pop up claiming things about me. Do you really think you're causing me harm? You're not. You're only causing yourself misery because you're perpetuating negative energy, instead of doing something constructive with your time.


Iris

Beverly Hills,
California,
U.S.A.

LMAO at GotMe!

#39REBUTTAL Individual responds

Sun, January 27, 2008

GotMe, you are a broken record, my dear. You are the only dog here, and you are full of pony manure.

I have not been participating in the various thread debates, and despite my absence, you keep popping onto every thread, throwing my name around, just to keep my name "alive."

Really GotMe. It's quite pathetic and transparent. Anyone who scrolls up will see that I'm not even posting! My goodness, don't you have a life? You troll all the threads and throw my name into them, for what purpose? Do you get some perverse thrill putting my name into every thread?

Anyone who goes to my Kasamba profile and reads my reviews will see that I have a stellar reputation (except for a handful, but then you can't please everyone). They can come to me and find out for themselves that I go above and beyond for my clients.

GotMe, you are not playing with a full deck, which many people have noted on numerous occasions. Woof, woof. Neigh.


Got Me

0z,
California,
Denmark

More Dog and Pony show but still the same 3 ring of fools

#39Consumer Comment

Sat, January 26, 2008

Still same ole, boring really........same 3 people spewing the same ole vile Toni, Karen and Iris


Toni

Jenera,
Ohio,
U.S.A.

Chris

#39Consumer Suggestion

Sat, January 26, 2008

Do you actually read a post before you jump in there and open up your big mouth!
First I have never come on here saying I was hurt by any expert! Second , if you go look up the group in yahoo it says that the group has been inactive for a long time . Even has the date listed!

and going by what was posted here above ( that little arrow button does the scroll for you sweetie!) Some of The experts this Jack arse has listed there can not be found on kasamba any more.

So why don't you learn to read before you give your uneducated view!

As far as Robin/Eric.. I do not go around this board posting only about him... and when I do post I'm not doing so in some inapt name of justice or all that is good , like you seem to profess.

I do so to point out that if you check the post he wrote , started and answered to he is always contradicting himself and showing his true colors.

As far as what you feel about experts like cali, Penny Babson or any one else. no one seems to care about your thoughts and the people you remark about sure do have a lot of ratings for people no one takes seriously!

So with that said before you go post jumping and wanting to add your two cents make sure you read all the post first so you don't look like an arse!


Karen

Henderson,
North Carolina,
U.S.A.

Oz lol

#39Consumer Suggestion

Thu, January 24, 2008

Karen
Henderson, North Carolina
U.S.A.

Wow
This is too much. Thanks for the post. Now the clients that go to kasamba will see what these experts think of them as clients.



*****This is the ONLY post you see from ME on this thread!! So how the hell is this thread any kind of show?! Seems to me you are looking for something to gripe about.****


Got Me

0z,
California,
Denmark

another thread that has turned into the Iris the Messenger, Karen, Toni Dog and Evil Show

#39Consumer Comment

Thu, January 24, 2008

sure doesnt matter what the thread starts out about, they all turn into a 3 ring circus of darkness with the same ring leaders........


Christine

Woodstock,
Georgia,
U.S.A.

Interesting

#39Author of original report

Wed, January 23, 2008

Toni

I find it interesting that it took you a matter of minutes to have the inside information on this group. You're all over this site slamming Robin Bluedragon (who probably is everything you say) and act like you just want the truth out, so why are you defending a group that is doing exactly what you accuse him of doing!!!!?

Sounds to me like you are not the victim you pretend to be but a disgruntled expert who belongs to this AllPsychicMasters! How do you know who is in that group and who isn't unless you belong! It's a private group.

Iris give it up. You were in the group sharing information just like everyone else. Just because you keep changing your name doesn't mean you are invisible. I can't get in to check the membership now because I QUIT when I saw what was going on there. I respected Cali before I saw that but no more. As for Penny Babson, no-one takes her seriously anyways.


Helen

Auckland,
Other,
New Zealand

The postings between readers is for real

#39Consumer Comment

Thu, January 17, 2008

One of the postings above is actually about me. I did use one of these psychics and recognise that this person was actually referring to me. Oh well, I never went back so it doesn't matter anyway.
Majority of them are downright fakes, some are even laughable. But there were a couple who were good. You gotta kiss a lot of toads though before you find a good one.


Helen

Auckland,
Other,
New Zealand

The postings between readers is for real

#39Consumer Comment

Thu, January 17, 2008

One of the postings above is actually about me. I did use one of these psychics and recognise that this person was actually referring to me. Oh well, I never went back so it doesn't matter anyway.
Majority of them are downright fakes, some are even laughable. But there were a couple who were good. You gotta kiss a lot of toads though before you find a good one.


Helen

Auckland,
Other,
New Zealand

The postings between readers is for real

#39Consumer Comment

Thu, January 17, 2008

One of the postings above is actually about me. I did use one of these psychics and recognise that this person was actually referring to me. Oh well, I never went back so it doesn't matter anyway.
Majority of them are downright fakes, some are even laughable. But there were a couple who were good. You gotta kiss a lot of toads though before you find a good one.


Helen

Auckland,
Other,
New Zealand

The postings between readers is for real

#39Consumer Comment

Thu, January 17, 2008

One of the postings above is actually about me. I did use one of these psychics and recognise that this person was actually referring to me. Oh well, I never went back so it doesn't matter anyway.
Majority of them are downright fakes, some are even laughable. But there were a couple who were good. You gotta kiss a lot of toads though before you find a good one.


Toni

Jenera,
Ohio,
U.S.A.

There is no proof

#39Consumer Suggestion

Thu, January 17, 2008

She wont show proof that is why she made up all the stuff and brought it up here?
RoR is just full of this kind of lies experts accusing other experts . and you know when that happens what it means.

The KU group is bored. Plan and simple !
Some people need to just grow up and act their age not there shoe size. I know toddlers who are more reasonable and respectful then these supposed adults!


Iris

Beverly Hills,
California,
U.S.A.

More lies from "Christine" who is really an expert at Kasamba

#39REBUTTAL Individual responds

Wed, January 16, 2008

You wrote: "I think Iris the messenger was in the group when I left"

Well dear I can't find ANYTHING on the Internet about any such group. Typing it into Google brought me to a Yahoo Canada group with a total of four posts, and it's been dead for almost a year.

I was in KU, but that was THREE YEARS AGO, and I was banned when I complained about all the sharing of information!

This other group you mention, which YOU admit being in... I'd love to know what dates you claim I was in it, and I'd love to see the supposed posts by me. I doubt you'll find any since I've never even heard of it.

Again, WHERE is this group? Is it Yahoo? MSN? Contact me directly at Kasamba about this because I sure would like to know where you get off claiming I was in this group I've never even heard of!

Come on "Christine" supposedly of Woodstock, Georgia. You make all sorts of outlandish claims about me on various threads. You've come out of nowhere with alleged COPIES of posts from that group. What's funny is this -- if you are no longer in the group, how'd you cut-and-paste all of that, or is it all just fabricated?

These smear campaigns on ROR are highly questionable.


Iris

Beverly Hills,
California,
U.S.A.

Christine - Who are you and WHY would you lie?

#39REBUTTAL Individual responds

Wed, January 16, 2008

I have NEVER been a member of this group you mention. In fact, I'd never even heard of them until I JUST read this post of yours! I would like some proof of how you claim I'm in that group, unless someone else is posing as me!!!

This unfuriates me and just adds to my contention that those posting on this ROR are vindictive rival experts. I would gladly take a lie detector right now as I am not a member of any "secret" group. For a while I was posting on WAHM (a very public board) but thanks to the shenanigans of Jasper, my membership there was terminated.

What is this group AllPsychicMasters and where the F**K are they? I was in KasambaUtopia more than THREE YEARS AGO and when I complained about the sharing of information, Nicola and Robin kicked me out.

I have never even heard of AllPsychicMasters. Is it on MSN? Yahoo? Were you a member? If so, you're a psychic on Kasamba I'd guess... so contact me at Kasamba and tell me who you are, and where you got the idea that I'm in that group!

I steer clear of all those nasty little cliques that share client information!!!


Augusta

Stroudsburg,
Pennsylvania,
U.S.A.

Very few

#39Consumer Comment

Tue, January 15, 2008

There are very few independent ones that are worth the money - but there are a few gems - hard to find. Avoid like the plague any that belong to a group consisting of other KAS readers (versus a general association of readers with no KAS only affiliation). Use the ones who are not on all the time, all day/night, and who have feedback that states PREDICTIONS COME TRUE...lately there is one reader I notice who is getting more and more of this type of positive feedback from long time clients (so that is a great sign!!) Someone I am looking forward to trying but she is only on at specific times (another good sign).
Stay away from all the grouped up readers or those who block if their reads do not pan out after clients spend a good chunk of change. The internet gypsy way of fleeing town.


Toni

Jenera,
Ohio,
U.S.A.

And again....

#39Consumer Suggestion

Tue, January 15, 2008

I did read your post . The same old stupid crap that you guys post on every post in here when you change your names and re post!

Are those who feel they believe you looking at this yahoo group. ?? Oh they have so they have noticed that this group has been inactive for a very long time....
Yes I did read the whole thing By the way. You just haven't shown anything that was worth reading!

Oh by the way its very common for business or contractors to share information about client who abuse their systems or commit fraud . Oh but you said you work at kasamba and have a whole grand total of 600 rates so I guess you know that already .. I mean from your vast business experience. You know that major web sites in any field will share list of client such as these to protect the business field. Its called " Black Listing" you have heard of that term right.

See once you black list the people who are doing this they can't take time away from the real clients. ( By the way You are pointing fingers here But what about your wonderful KU they have a list of over 200 clients that they refer to as fraud clients and they have similar post . Oh but the "Eric" crowd has done that so That's business right.. )

All you have shown here is bits and pieces of chats, which you took stuff out of an added stuff to, to do a smear.... And again I state that only a fool would listen to this childish crap and only fool would believe it.

People see these things and go right to the site. see how these experts ( who have way more then 600 rates so that must be your motive) are doing and how they are spoken about and they hire them/ So looks like your doing kasamba's advertising for them.. I bet they would thank you for the cash your saving and making them if you'd only use your real name. Speaking of names at the top of your post you didn't separate Cali's name so it looks like you called her Cali babson. Usual punctuation!

There isn't any point in arguing this out over and over the fact still remains that cowards are running here posting lied instead of bringing there information and complaints to the BBB. But wait that's right, you cant hide behind lies there..
Grow up and do your work instead of playing here.. maybe you'd have more then 600 rates if you did!


Lucy

Skysville,
Other,
Australia

Are there any independant readers on Kasamba?

#39Consumer Comment

Mon, January 14, 2008

Or are they all in some little group where they share client information and backstab their clients?
Lovely for clients to read this, it's very enlightening.

Just as a note, I've had a reading with Scorpio Sage and Amphora Blue and in both cases their "happy ever after" readings were totally false and not one of their predictions came true. The are genuinely gifted though, at taking your money.


Karen

Henderson,
North Carolina,
U.S.A.

Wow

#39Consumer Suggestion

Mon, January 14, 2008

This is too much. Thanks for the post. Now the clients that go to kasamba will see what these experts think of them as clients.


Christine

Woodstock,
Georgia,
U.S.A.

This is disturbing

#39Author of original report

Mon, January 14, 2008

For your information Toni no-one said Cali's last name was Babson. It was a series of names strung together and you jumped in trying to prove something without reading further. those posts are not fake - the only things changed are the client's personal information (replaced w/x's).

Why didn't you bother to read them before coming in to defend your pathetic little group? Your obviously a member. they aren't discusions about fraud clients as anyone can see. There are 100s of posts just like that in that group, talking about their bad client list and warning each other about which clients and experts to avoid. It's disgusting.

FYI I do have clients on Kasamba thank you very much. I have over 600 ratings and mostly 5 stars. I don't charge an arm and a leg like some people, and I don't come over here posing as a client to try to hurt the experts I'm threatened by. Next time you should read the posts before jumping in head first because it's obvious your trying to defend something that's indefensible.

cheers.


Toni

Jenera,
Ohio,
U.S.A.

Funny think is:

#39Consumer Suggestion

Mon, January 14, 2008

First off ,from what I see, these experts are talking about are clients who are committing frauds. They aren't sharing information... And you can see you faked some of the postings Since when is Cali's last name Babson!

Second if any one goes and looks they will see this group has been pretty much inactive for about a two years or better!

Erik and Sage , if they are still with kasamba, are hardly ever there. Do any of you see them on kasamba????

So before you start pointing fingers at any one.. maybe just maybe you should make sure you know exactly what you are talking about. Just remember when you point one finger three point back at you!

This is childish...... Why don't you just report this to the BBB you know a real complaint company. All these post are just making you look like a mule! Act like a adult! Its time to grow up. If you did your work on kasamba( yes we all know who you really are) Then you wouldn't have to worry about what other people are or are not doing. And then maybe.. Just maybe mind you, you would actually create some clients for yourself!

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