Complaint Review: Katurah's Papillons

It started out so well back in september 2016. My long-life dream was coming to life when I came to the website Katurah's Papillon. I send an e-mail with butterflies in my stomach for a fast reply. Fell in love with a pup named Robin. Later to find out that the website was not updated for quite some time. Our back and forward communication made me feel at ease with the decision I took to reserve a pup born on 8/24/2016. This pup was by the breeder´s recommendation as I was looking for an athlete, never for breeding. Later to find my pup on her website named Sophi and available for sale.

I wanted to be sure that the breeder could find trust in me that in october I sent my first payment. There was never a mention of deposits for puppies, but my heart was in the right direction. Two more payment followed short after one another. The total sum was $1564.00. 

Pleasant phone conversations were made for the next three months that my nickname soon was created ¨My little friend¨. There was a certain pattern that was followed by the breeder named Pamela, and my feelings went out to her. She lives alone with her dogs, has no friends, has four hernias in her back that she will be operated on late january 2017 and she is looking out for a much larger home, but the home she wanted, was declined. I opened up to her too and that made me feel that our connection was strong. I even sent her an electronic x-mas postcard, which she claimed could not be opened while I had sent many more to others without problems. For sure she dumbed it as she does not like to receive ¨junk mail¨ so she told me. 

As it got closer to the time, beginning january, that I would be receiving my pup, Pam started to become more irritated and started pinpointing, lying and accusing me of the trips she had to make to the vets and to have my puppy sent by plane. I was extremely confused and became frustrated. I even was afraid calling her for certain paperwork I needed that I had to involve my husband in this situation so not to cause friction. 

There also was a conflict about the information given on the receiving of my puppy as cargo by plane to Costa Rica. So Pam kept on reiterating that her vets and the airlines had told her just the opposite of what I had been told here in Costa Rica. I had an extremely hard time trying to explain this to Pam that I could feel her anger through the phone. I was so desperate to help her understand it that I called her vet and the USDA vet to try to explain to them that the info Pam received was incorrect. Both parties told me that they never had given out that kind of info. 

Finally after long phone conversations, the requested paperwork was sent to me so I could follow the requirements in Costa Rica so not to hold up my pup upon her arrival. I was even been accused during the whole process but my heart was all for my pup’s arrival.

Flight arrangements were all set for which was rapidly changed by Pam under a false excuse but we still were exited. When the day came on january 17th for her flight from Idaho to San Francisco, Pam had called the airlines at midnight and demanded them to send my pup back to Idaho. This action was unknown to us only after receiving a phone call on the morning of january 19th from the airlines in Costa Rica informing us that my pup was sent back without a reason given.  

My heart broke, my dreams shattered. What had we done to deserve this? How can a human being do this to another after all we had gone through to reach this far. We had tried calling her on numerous of occasions during the next two days, but no answer. I even sent Pam a heartfelt e-mail requesting a reason as to why with pictures that shows how much this pup meant to me, but no response either. 

After reading this report about this breeder, I can only hit my head against the wall. I feel for the victims that have gone through the same situation and I only hope that there won´t be any more to follow. It hurts to be treated this way by a coldhearted Christian that this fraud case will stay with me forever.

 p.s: My pup´s name was Effie Katurah´s Papillon well spoken since birth, born on 8/24/2016 published on Katurah´s Papillon webpage as an available pup named Sophi.

After experiencing all this trouble with Pamelas so called problem free lines,

I am not breeding the dogs I got from her...I have instead ventured into

a different line from England.  I am trying to get as far away from those lines

that she has claimed to clean all the crap out of that I can.  Its been a much

better experience going elsewhere, the breeder is ethical...and the dogs

are lovelier...its like a breath of fresh air after dealing with Pamela!!!  And so

goes the same with those who have added to this rip off report.  Getting away

from Pamela was the best move that we all  could make.  The dogs I got

from Pamela are now all PETS.  I was just complimented by another breeder,

they said...girl...you sure have come a long way from Pamela!  And boy,

isnt that the truth!!!

I recently talked to someone who recently recieved the raw deal from Pamela...

I see that leopard hasnt changed her spots any.  I will be rising to the defense

of this person to the AKC...they need to be reminded that Pamela is the liar,

and the other is the victem.

 Pamela calls me a liar, I call Pamela a liar, Pamela asks for proof of what I say.

So far in this complaint I have supplied proof in the form of vet verification

proving what a liar she is, proving how shes printed false statements on this

very web site...and now, I can add even more proof.

On her web site she has a photo of Brody and his show win.  First of all the

girl who owns that dog did not get him from Pamela.  I am listed as breeder

on that dog.  The owner of the dog never gave her permission to use that

photo, and did in fact send her an email telling her so, she also told her

that it was simple respect to post who the owner of the dog was, and the

handlers name, since it was her time and money that did get the dog there

and as far as she was concerned Pamela was taking all the credit for it.

Then Pamela changes her written remarks under the photo...still doesnt

include the owners name, she even makes the owner appear like shes done

something evil by chosing to omit the katurah name on the dog.

Pamela claims that the dog is Katurah bred on both sides, when in fact

the sire and dam are no more then dogs shes purchased from someone

else and began calling them katurah.    Let me make it clear....the woman

did not buy that dog from Pamela, she purchased the dog from me...and

so WHY would she even think to add the Katurah name to that dog...and

since I made no stipulations of her adding mine...she named the dog

as she wanted to.  That dog is NOT katurah bred, only thru being purchased

is how the katurah entered in the pedigree of that dog.  The sire and dams

have NO katurah breedings behind them.  And so in both places here shes

stealing fame and glory...shes taking all credit for Brody, and shes taking

all the credit of other peoples lines.

Now the question...Do breeders of merit behave that way?   Is she pulling

fast ones over on the public??   Yes she is a liar!!!!  

 You miss my point totally owner of Katurah's Grahmm.  I never said your loss wasn't devastating.  I however purchased his fully sibling for good money and he has a "liver shunt" diagnosed and the vet report sent to her vet in Mt. Home, Idaho.  She said it was a "thyroid test" and has refused to do anything about the fact that Zehn has a liver shunt and will have no quality of life. 

She replaced your dog for you per her own words.  Good for you that you would want anything remotely related to Zehn.  She has lied 100% in her dealings with me and others which is why the reports have been filed. 

The vet I spoke to at UCD said they had "never seen an incident with a canine" for your information.  My point was she would replace a dog infected with "maggots", but not a liver shunt by her own breeding program.  She has refused to provide paperwork to other breeders who have had issues with their dogs as well so you don't know if you got one that's related to them.

I have never said that losing a pet is not an awful experience.  Read the reports on here if you want to see how many of us have felt being lied to by Pamela Schweikert/Katurah's Papillons.  She even listed the fact that she lived in Twin Falls until was pointed out to her that the statement was also untruthful.  

If you want Zehn let me know so you can watch him not have quality of life.  I'm still waiting for Ms. Schweikert to complete her information on what she wants me to do with him.  Watching him daily is a painful experience as well.  I can tell you that many of us have suffered at the hands of the "Breeder of Merit"....Not just ones that have posted comments as many are afraid of her constant evil to post their experiences. 

 What I dont get is...why do I keep hearing about all of her sales gone right as if that proves something.  Again i say, its not the way she handles sales that have no problems connected to it, those are very easy to look ethical on.  What I am saying is...there were no signs of ethics in her dealing with me, and with others that I have talked to.  And to claim that Pamela is NOT a liar...thats simply ridiculous since shes been proven to lie right on this report !!  I have submitted photos of the vet reports that she claims were from a male dog and female dog...her big fat lie about me taking a female PUPPY to the vets, switching that puppy for an adult male right before the vets eyes mind you.  According to her, one report says male, one reportsays female.  Clearly in the photos I provided on both reports it says FEMALE.  But here you see is a perfect example of how Pamela LIES ...LIES her way out of these situations...and the longer you talk to her, the crazier the lie she does develope !!

Further more to incinuate that the liver shunt puppy was one of my own....nice trick since there were no puppies here except for Jezz.  And while your praising and condoning her ethics, please explain to me how I ended up with one dead puppy, she ended up with two of mine in that deal Ms. ethical made with me to trade two of mine for two of hers.

Which by the way she LIED to me when I was being told that she sold one of those puppies. when I confronted her with that news...oh no ...the person saying that is a liar...I have both puppies right here !!!  Pamela is not a liar???  She sold that puppy to a girl in California !!!

She LIED to that girl...telling her to never contact me since all my dogs belonged to her and I could not breed without her permission.  Now I dont know who you are, but it took many many months of me trying to simply walk away from Pamela and all her crap, to simply call it all a loss on my part....but it was that sale to california that really was the last straw.  How many times did I warn Pamela to stop all her lies about me, about my dogs??  She simply laughed, basically giving me the flipping finger.

For you see...Pamela considers herself mightier in her lies, her lies have saved her, her lies will continue to save her.  Another lie...she posts right on her web site...her attorneys are taking us to court.  Really???  Shes going to take ME to court when I have two vet reports stating that the puppy called Jezz had congenital liver shunts, immature cataracs, and said puppy in both reports are female ??  Really???  Shes going to take ME to court when there is registration proof that one of the puppies I sent her lives now in California?

AND that I have a statement from that person that the puppy was indeed sold to her??? And if she really wants to try and peddle that lie about the puppy not being her puppy... well..I have an email with the picture of that puppy that I sent to pamela when she first arrived...Funny thing is...its the same photo that I sent to the pappy rescue when I contacted them.  They can confirm that the puppy and the photo are one of the same.

AND...theres akc of course....records of all the pups in the litter here that were placed and gone before jezz did arrive.  But your truthful friend says.....SHE IS TAKING ME TO COURT !!  Theres not a judge in this world that is going to let that woman stand there and say she knows more then any vet and those vets are liars !!!   And further more, I am getting real tired of hearing her call my dogs KATURAH DOGS.  The pedigrees on them clearly say they are from everyone elses breedings...they are NOT her lines except for her buying into them.  SHE LIES when she stands there and says they are all her lines.  She likes to give credit where credit is due ...yep...shes posted that on her web site !!!  Then why is it that she has a show win photo of a dog that she was given no permission to post...right on her web site...AND when the woman asked her to post who the dog belonged to, and the name of the handler who handled the dog....she refused.  Instead posting that someone NEGLECTED to add her kennel name to that dog, but it was all katurah anyway.  No...the only way that dog is katurah connected is by the two dogs Pamela purchased from someone else.

Now how many lies do you want me to bring up here??  Can you explain to me PLEASE how someone soooo honest could tell soooo many lies and STILL not be called a liar?

If you need more lies....let me know....I can fill up a couple pages or two.

We had a wonderful Papillon from Katurah’s.  All of our experiences with Pam Schweidert were highly positive.  We are just people who bought a puppy, we are not breeders with conflicting interests. The dog we purchased, Graham, was very healthy and strikingly beautiful with a lovely personality.  He died July 2012 due to a cuterebra larva in the brain.

 I am writing this particularily in response to the post by JR-Wheatland from 3-21-13 in which our dog’s terrible death is used as some kind of proof that Pamela Schweidert/Katurah’s Papillons is dishonest.  That post stated:

 “Just like posting online that a dog died from a Bot fly in the brain.  He happens to be a littermate to the male that has a liver shunt by the way.  They are pests to horses in case you need to look them up.  The vets at UCD stated that they'd never heard of anything so bizarre in their treatment of canines and/or horses as Pamela states on her webpage.  Please check out information she posts online as it's "her opinion" or "her excuse" that she comes up with so as not to deal with reality.”

 I am one of the owners of Graham, the puppy you are referring to.  Graham died at the University of Minnesota Veterinary Center in July 2012.  A necropsy performed at the University of Minnesota College of Veterinary Medicine revealed that Graham had died of a Cuterebra bot fly infection in the brain.  The Vet who did the necropsy said that the larva had most likely traveled to Graham’s brain through his nose.  The larva, which he found in the brain, had made four tracks around the brain before it had produced the constant seizures that took his life.  The necropsy also shows that Graham HAD NO OTHER HEALTH ISSUES. 

 Yes, bot flies are a bother to horses.  Cats are more likely to have bot fly larva infections than dogs are.  In most bot fly larva infections, the larva beal out through the skin, plop on the ground and become a fly (videos of this in canines are even posted on You Tube).  But the larva can invade the brain, be it a canine, feline, or rodent, and it is fatal.  Google it.   I even called UC Davis to verifiy their statements as quoted by JR-Wheatland and they disputed her statements.  They told me it was absolutely possible for a dog to be killed by a Bot Fly larva if it entered the brain and that, although not common, it definitely happens in the US.

 It is very upsetting to have our heartbreaking tragedy used in this manner to defame the breeder. To suggest that this traumatic event didn’t happen is hurtful.  Katurah’s Graham DId die of a bot fly (CUTEREBRA) LARVA infection to his brain. 

 Before his massive seizure in July 2012, Graham was a beautiful, happy, healthy, smart, sweet little boy.  He died because bot flies and their larva exist in the US and Graham unfortunately encountered one, not because of Pamela Schweikert.

We have found Pamela to be a very reputable breeder and we would not hesitate to purchase another dog from Katurah’s Papillons.

I dont think so.  Breeders of merit do not argue with two vet reports, both from specialists, with a long list of tests that were done on the puppy.

Breeders of merit do not call vets liars, claim to know more then they do, accuse the new owner of doing something to the puppy that was clearly diagnosed as having congenital problems.  Breeders of ethics do honor their deals, unlike Pamela who thinks sending me a liver shunt puppy is fair enough for the two pups I sent her.  And then, how ethical is it to lie to me about wanting two pups for breeding, to then turn around and sell one, continue to tell me that she had them both...calling another person a liar when they told me she sold one. And then, handing the person who bought that puppy a line of bull about me, my dogs so they dont contact me and let the cat out of the bag that Pamela sold the puppy.  I take it that by your standards it perfectly ethical to be a liar, not stand behind the health of your puppies, and then simply call those that bring these issues forth and front right liars and everything they say is false.  To date, I have not seen her make one apology, to take responsibility for her actions, to even try to make her wrongs right.  INSTEAD SHE LIES, AND SHE LIES, AND SHE TELLS MORE LIES !!!!  

On her web site she claims all our claims are unfounded.  Yet, shes made claims on this very site, that I did prove to be unfounded. male dog....I provided both reports....show me where it says male dog on it.  She claims that I switched dogs...regarding the CONGENITAL IMMATURE CATARACS...again...i provided the two vet reports...clearly on each...it said Jezz...female papillon> but then...."we can just say anything on the internet, it doesnt have to be true."  No...SHE CAN SAY ANYTHING AND DONT EXPECT IT TO BE TRUE !!  why doesnt she BACK up her claims of having all her dogs tested for liver function....then certainly she ought to be able to provide the bile test results that was done on Jezz before she sent her to me !!! 

Her claims of all her dogs being dna tested...then how come theres no dna #'s after the katurah dogs name on the pedigrees from the akc except for the Read my lips dog.  ???  Wheres the dna certification numbers on the female dogs pam??  Oh !!!  Thats right...AKC are liars, and have failed in doing their job of adding those numbers on Katurah dogs.  Okay, then how about producing the certification you get from the lab then?   No no...dont tell me, the lab too just took your money and never sent you certification, liars and thieves they are ....aint that right Pamela ?

From time to time I have to check out her web page, to make sure shes not telling more lies, more stories about me.  Each time I am amazed at the line of bull she still does spin.   I am still waiting for that lawsuit that she claims she has started against me...I see that she uses photos of dogs not belonging to her without the permission of the dogs owners to boost up her web page.

Conveniently forgets to mention that the dogs DO belong to someone else.

Oh and now I see she has another issue to face with the AKC...and of course everyone has lied about her to the akc according to her.  And she says shes not been paid for her dogs ?  Well...before you believe that....talk to the girl shes accusing of doing that.  Ask that girl why she had to turn to the AKC for help in getting papers, ask her if shes paid for the dog but Pamela still insists she she should pay her even more.  Whos the one that got dumped on?  It wasnt pamela it was that poor girl who made the mistake of trusting her.

All that help pam gave her...ask Pam who was taking care of her dogs for her while she was in the hospital?  All I can tell you is...Pam is never on the losing end of things...its the other person that is.  Its a down right shame what shes done to that girl !!!  and...while your at it...talk to the akc and get the real story why Pamela is having these AKC issues.

 I am so glad for you that your experience dealing with

Pamela was a pleasant one.  But as I have said, this issue

is not about all her deals gone right...but how she responds

 when they dont.  You cannot fairly judge someone who

had a very sick puppy from her, recieved very unethical

treatment from her, when your puppy turned out to be

healthy, and you are happy with the sale.  How can you say

our reports are untrue?  I have the vet reports, two of them, from

specialists...and apparently, just like Pamela you want to ignore

the fact that the puppy was a very sick puppy with congenital

issues.  Ignore the vet reports....really ?  And of course there is

that other unethical issue of the trade she made with me for

two of my puppys that she did not honor...you yourself did admit

that a sick puppy can turn up here and there, we are not God...and

yet you want to call the report on Jezz untrue?  Go on talking like

this can never happen to Pamelas breeding and shes 100% ethical.

Yes this did happen, and it happened exactly how I said it did...I have

posted the vet reports I

have proven her to be the liar that she is with those posted vet reports,

but you still claim that Pamela is not a liar.  Oh well, this is all Pamela

does have, smoke screens and more versions to her story.  Tell you

what...I shall later take a photo of the pedigree and post it, disputing

the claim Pamela makes on her web site that ALL her dogs have been

tested for everything...Once again...more PROOF of the liar she is.

I have to charge up my camera.

 Why are you asking me to post my name, when clearly this site states

that you cannot.  Instead you should be addressing the fact that you

were caught in a lie, you posted a lie on this site...the best you can

do is try and throw the shadow on me, have some of your happier

buyers print up glowing reports on you, when how many times

do I have to say....its not the way you handle happy buyers, its

the way you handle buyers when things go wrong.    Lies Pamela,

you were caught in them, explain that please...saying that I

switched an adult male dog for a puppy at the vets, claiming

that one vet report said male the other said female...but, since

I posted both reports, clearly saying on both...female.  More lies

in fact have popped up...you claiming that your attorney is suing

me....so where is this law suit?   Even more...on your web site

you claim that all your dogs have been tested for everything that there

is to test them for...when clearly on the certified pedigree from the AKC

only shows the Dude dog was dna tested.  No tests done of levis and lace.

Patella certified?  No...Pra certified....No again. 

too you know>  But like you also said on your web site, anyone can print

anything on line...and so you do...here on this site, on your web page.

To even admit that you will address the complaints on your web page

versus this site...well I guess so...you can print what ever you want,

and no one can dispute you.  Here on this site, we all have a voice !!!

Explain WHY you made up that story about me switching dogs ...explain

why you said one report said male, the other female...explain WHY you

think its ethical to not honor vet reports, to call the vets and the buyer

liars and murderers...this is not going to just go away Pamela, and having

people write glowing reports about you does not even address any of

the complaints in this report.  This is an issue about your SICK dogs,

the healthy ones have no part or say in this.

Pamela:  You admit that you know that Bot flys are Maggots and yet you replaced a puppy that died from their infestation, yet you refuse to replace dogs that have "liver shunts" from your breeding program.  You did what I knew you would do in your response, hence my comment about the vets.  You willing posted that the puppy that died from the maggots was replaced by you.  You need to set your priorties up.  Once you replaced a puppy from a "freak incident" you set the presidence.  You need to refund the money paid to you by three people for puppies from you and pay for the vet costs incurred by the rescue group whom attempted to save Jezz.

When will you accept responsibility for your actions?  I truly hope that others who are interested in buying anything from you will read about the "nightmare" we have all lived.  Stand up, accept responsibility and stop denying the "facts". 

   Judy  , You never did talk to the vet's at UCD.   What else are you lying about ,,,Humans can get bot flys on the brain , Including dog's , cat's , monkeys, mice, any thing that lives and breaths air , So folks that check's this sight out , Go check the sight's I left , or just google it your self , Or even better talk to your vet , Any one that owns a pet need's know this any way , I didn't know it . And now I do , And I'm going to have bad dreams tonight , EEEE-GADS , That was gross ,                

http://www.findavet.us/2012/03/how-to-treat-dog-botflies-maggots/http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Bot+fly+in+the+brain+of+dogs&qpvt=Bot+fly+in+the+brain+of+dogs&FORM=VDRE                                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ad5O2Id6neU               http://pets.thenest.com/botfly-maggot-cats-8402.html       http://pets.thenest.com/botfly-maggot-cats-8402.html                                             http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/80713702/               http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showthread.php?147250-Pet-Medical-Advice-Urgently-Needed-Our-dog-has-a-bot-fly      http://www.whatsthatbug.com/2008/09/07/bot-fly-larvae-internal-parasites-may-affect-pets/           http://cafe.comebackalive.com/viewtopic.php?p=351144        http://www.gopetsamerica.com/horse/diseases/bots.aspx           http://www.pricelesspups.net/botflylarvae_puppies_kittens.htm            http://en.allexperts.com/q/Ask-Veterinarian-700/2009/8/Bott-fly.htm                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I can paste more judy ,,,,,,I don't know what vet you talked to but he , she, must be a quack , Folks take a look see at these sight,s,,,,,,,,,Need more proof that dog,s get bot flys , Folks just google  bot flys in dogs            Bye bye judy                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    MorningStar

Interesting that Jezz sire is Heart of Fame and her dam is Lady Elvira...whom you are expecting puppies from again this month since you bred her back-to-back which you state you do not do.  How can you continue breeding dogs that have produced "liver shunts" is beyond comprehension.  It makes it all about the money doesn't it Pamela. 

You seriously need to replace the dogs that have died and/or have a liver shunt issue.  You're ignoring this issue is not going to make it go away until you "stand as a Breeder of Merit" and accept responsibilty for Jezz, Mouse and Zehn and any other dog that has had this issue pop up.  Anyone purchasing dogs from you should most definitely search out the pedigrees before they end up living a nightmare.  The dogs I purchased from you were "championed sired"...not...and "breeding quality" ..absolutely NOT.  Why would I want an unchampioned sired and/or champion dog to breed to champions males is beyond me.  What were you thinking that I'd never figure it out and/or question it. 

I am not the only one you have done this to and over the years you have had issues and you have always blamed the buyers.  Your actions speak much louder than words ever will.  You need to re-think your treatment of the three of us who trusted you. 

When you tell the truth you don't have to remember what you said yesterday.  The truth is most definitely NOT slander.  When you have the vet reports to back up the facts that's the truth.  Just because you say "I don't know how that can happen" is not a solution.  You replaced one dog that died, now do the same for the other three buyers who have had this nightmare.  Do the "right thing". 

  As far as you havng emails from Judy about me..that does not surpris3 me in the least...nor do I hold it against her.  As I said before...after you rip people off you then proceed to tell lies about them.  I am sure at first
Judy had no idea what a prolific liar you are, and believing as I once did that you were a person of merit and ethics, she probably believed every word you said about me.  Never meeting up with me till recently, she had nothing to base your lies against.  However, now that we have had contact with each other...now that we have found that we do have some
thing in common...we each got a liver shunt puppy from Pamela, and she gave us both pretty much the same treatment.  I do believe it was after Judy experienced for herself Pamelas lack of ethics that she did decide to discover just how much of what Pamela said about me was true.

And this how I came to find out what kind of stuff Pamela does say about me.  <along with other sources who have told me as much also>   And so here again..all Pamela has done was prove one other point that I did make.  The only things Judy could say about me was from what Pamela told her herself..there was no other source for her to gather that information
from   except from Pamela.  So...do I blame Judy?  No she only knew what Pamela told her.  Its just as I said...first she screws you...then she spreads lies about you.   The more Pamela talks, the more she ends up telling on her own self.

Well, its monday....so bring on that legal team of yours Pamela.

The dog you mention that I purchased from some other breeder has no bearing on this report...it was a dog from someone else.

And yes, I did question how valid his pedigree was, since his teeth indicated he was a much older dog...and I did even say on that score alone I would not be breeding him.  And then, to even confirm that decision, I noticed his one eye was opaque.

No retina.  Now this is just like you...your accusing me of trying to pass that dog off as yours, when in fact YOUR THE ONE BRINGING THIS DOG INTO THIS ISSUE. That dog was placed in a good home, hes been fixed...All you are doing is showing the world how you try to put the blame on something, anything but yourself.  First it was poison spiders, then it was me dropping the dog on its head...then it was some shot the dog never got.. now its switched dogs...everything but what that vet report says.

You keep grabbing for straws Pamela.  You keep on making up all these other scenerios....Now tell me..how could I take a sick puppy to the vets...leave it there over nite, have them examine her eyes on the very day...but somehow sneak in the vets office and switch the puppy with an adult male dog?  You need to stop
fabricating these stories Pamela...it only shows how you keep grabbing for straws...look at the vet reports I posted...you claim one was for a male dog...one was for a female dog...does the report say male dog on it...No.  In that alone you have proven yourself to be a liar...a big story teller.  There was no dog switches...dream on Pamela...those claims are crazy.. and the vet reports verify it was a female PUPPY. <you can always try saying that vets cant tell the difference between male and female, puppy and adult...think that might get you off the hook?>  Address WHY you said the vet reports said one was a female and one was a male !!!  And also tell us WHY your continuing to push that male dog story?  WHY did you post those false statements ?  and now...to the public who reads these reports...if indeed your up to going thru all Pamelas crazy accusations if you indeed wind up with a pup with health issues...and if you dont mind spending your hard money on those health issues just for pamela to call you and your vet liars, then yes...purchase from her.  But..on the other hand, if you indeed expect Pamela to address those health issues in the manner of a breeder of merit and ethics does...then I suggest you stay away.

I did not post the letter dated ebruary 28, 2012.  You did.  It states where the source was.  Lie.
I did in fact send you RRR letters about Lily and Zehn.  You did not accept them.  How do you know what's in the letter if you don't open them?

BBB did not have any issues with my information.  They did not tell you any such thing. 

My vet personally phoned your vet clinic to discuss Zehn as you called them threatening, yelling and screaming at anyone who answered the phone.  There were several of us standing there listening to you by speaker phone.  They phoned long distance to Knights Vet Clinic and then faxed the acid bile tests to them directly.  So you could not say the report had not been received and/or was fabricated as you told me it was a thyroid test that was hand delivered to you.

I convinced you your BF couldn't care for Sammy and Ike?  You tole me the woman was from out of state and you were worried as Sammy is a runner.  She also saw Ike bed per your own statement how he shredded his bedding.  Bet I could find that person and get a statement from the mess that she saw.

What did I do to your dogs?  Really.  They were cared for here for over 14 months and you had no issue with that before.  Now they were mis-treated?  They arrived back to you freshly bathed, nails clipped and very happy from the witnesses I have.  The Phalene girl was very friendly to everyone here.  You insisted that Sammy and she fly in the same crate "to save you money".  I know she never tried to bite anyone.  I was a report sent to my vet about that incident. 

I never mentioned Johnny Cash anywhere on this page.  You need to re-read your answers and who brought up whom. 

You state you keep your females until they pass on...then why are they for sale online?  You most definitely state you do not breed back-to-back and now you have changed your statement.  AKC has records that can prove what you have produced and who the dam is. 

Lawsuits are public records unless they are sealed by the judge.  Public records are online as well.  That's how all your information is listed.  You need to read what's online about you.  This is not slander, it's public knowledge.  I seriously want to see you get the help you so badly need so that you leave the rest of the world alone and stop creating drama and accusations.  I hope I have answered every one of the accusations in your statement posted by you or maybe not as Katurah's is in Twin Falls not in Mt. Home where I have directed the letters. 

Pamela:  You set a presidence when you replaced Zehn's brother from a "weird incident".  You replaced him with no questions asked yet you refuse to replace Jezz, Zehn and/or Mouse.  Shame on you if you treat one buyer one way and all the others the direct opposite what does that make you?

This site says you are not to provide personal information, yet you did.  That's perfect as I'm sure others can read the rules the same way.

The dogs were returned to you "directly from a vet clinic" and the dogs were all examined before they left CA.  The little girl was the life of the party at the clinic.  Remember they took pictures of them for you.  A picture is worth a thousand words.  She was shipped in the same crate with Sammy, per your request so you didn't have to purchase the additional third crate.  This can be verified with Petsmart as the Manager was on the phone with you when you said you only needed TWO crates.  By the way he stated Saturday that you were extremely rude and hard to get along with.  You also yelled at him just as you yelled at my vet, vet techs, Alaska Airline employees and everyone else you have phoned since you started this attack.

The two males had issues which is why you refused to pay to ship them back to you.  One had only one t******e and the other had an overbite and they were both "large" for their age.   You refused to release them to me, remember.  I could not place them or go pick them up.  Your doing, not mine. 

You say you're a good person.  Re-Read all the comments and lies in each and everyone of them.  Then look in the mirror.  You did in fact threaten me with your friend Laura more than once and I do in fact have two adults that heard you the last time you did it on the phone when the dogs were being returned to you.  You stated that she would be turning me into her employer, the IRS.

You provided Ike's buyer with my unlisted phone number.  She asked what my experience was with Ike and I told her.  She decided she would neuter him and give him a lifetime home.  Oh by the way your site states you keep your dogs "forever".  Why are you placing ads online for "retired dogs for sale".

You accused the woman of killing your Shem, taking his medications, stealing your clothes, underwear, two expensive dog leashes, AKC papers, pedigrees, Xmas ornaments, etc.  Yet she took care of your dogs while you were in the hospital.  Oh lets not forget she broke the toilet and your bed while she was having an affair in your home.  You keep throwing out information just know that anyone who has dealt with you has the same from you.

I do not have a police record, an alias and/or plans to change your name.  Now if you're this "perfect person" why would you have any of this planned?  You posted on your own website that Katurah's Grahm was replaced, so make it right with the buyers of Jezz, Mouse and Zehn.  You most definitely do in fact refuse your RRR mail, phone calls and e-mails.  Look forward to hearing from you Pamela as I do not owe you an apology, but after printing out this entire "log" you most certainly owe more than one of us an apology.  Maybe you should "practice what you preach" as you know I don't have e-mail weekends, so I hope you and Star enjoyed yourself.  By the way Katurah's is in Mountain Home, Idaho not Twin Falls as posted on her own website as well as the comments posted on here.  If that's not a "lie" what is it? 

Now clearly Pamela made a false report on this site.  Claiming the vet report had the dog in question listed on one report as a female and on another report as a male.   Also claiming that the report on the eye examination done on jezz was indeed some other dogs report.  Now I know each time you file these reports you have to agree in that little grey area on the bottom that all your statements are true. Otherwise your postings dont get posted.  I dare say that pamela also did agree that her statements were not false when she posted her report.

Well Star...do you still want to claim that all pamelas statements are true?  I am so glad that I got the hang of posting these documents in jpeg form...and Pamela, I wonder if you want me to continue to play with my camara and all the many things that I can continue to post as proof of what you have been saying is FALSE ??  Better think that one over good...cause I  sure do have lots of stuff...and now...who should apologise to who???  Time consuming...yes it is, but its time well spent.

This next shot of the report...clearly you can see Jezz was admitted as a female on her first visit .  Also if I can add the photo of her visit to the university of Pa with this report showing you again...she was admitted as a female.

this is my first attempt at including the vet report this first photo of the report is where it states that JEZZ did have her eyes examined, also it says...congenital condition.

Clearly you are about as good in reading the rules and regs. to this site as you are in reading vet reports.  I would LOVE for someone to contact me...but...now I will say this slow for you Pamela...

THIS SITE DOES NOT PERMIT YOU TO ADD EMAIL ADDRESSES OR CONTACT INFORMATION.  and if your so honest and correct in your accusations I would think you would jump at passing out my email address to your friend star, etc...since you all say I have no leg to stand on.  But this is typical Pamela..throwing up yet another smoke screen, the question is not why I wont supply my address here...the question is...WHY WONT YOU GIVE IT OUT?  What has honest Pamela got to lose??  Maybe the fact that the vet reports both have Jezz listed as female <while you claim one is listed male>

Maybe because the vet report clearly says that Jezz's eyeswere checked and it was found she had CONGENITAL immature cataracs? <while you claim is some other male dog that was examined>  Maybe how clearly the vet report says....Jezz has a CONGENITAL liver shunt...etc???  Is that why you challenge me to post my email when clearly it says no contact information can be posted???  Pamela..the more you talk, the more lies you tell and the more I can prove them as lies.  And I have to tell you the more you keep proving your penchant for telling these things that you just make up.  This last thing just goes to show that you really dont want anyone to email me..<of course I can understand WHY>  Your the one hiding my information....not I.

Excuse me...breeding my females back to back?  Funny, Molly just had her heat in Dec.   Was she bred?  No...as I can recall our conversation, you telling me that you have bred them as many as 4 times in a row,
and never had any problems with that.  Now wait a minute here...I have already established that your a bald face liar...maybe you were lying to me about that?  There were a few of your 'helpful advice hints' that I thought thanks for the info but no thanks !!!

Like for instance telling me that I should still breed Nina to Dali no less....Dali who is three times her size and you know it.  Now I know, since I bought nina and she was toooo small to be bred, I placed her in a home, but you say that all I did want is a pet.

But because she was TOO SMALL TO BREED I purchased molly from you. So I wonder why I spent $2000 on nina because as you say I only wanted a pet...then just gave her to someone?

Turned around and spent more money for something I could breed to Dali?  Like I told you, my space here is limited, I have no intention of acquiring the label of pet hoarder here...I have no room for acquiring PETS.  My intention here is to breed one or two litters, my partnership with Ellen, we are simply trying to get a really nice show dog for ourselves.  Take me to court Pamela...because surely when the courts see the vet reports, when the courts see how all your accusations about me having puppys when jezz was here...when the courts see the confirmation I do have about Mouse, Zehn...I have no doubts that the court will see you for the liar that you are.  When the courts see the photo of jezz that I sent you BEFORE she got sick and see that its the same photo sent to the Pappy rescue, the same dog they did pick up and take to the university of Pa....will they ask for DNA?  No.   As far as that little AGE discrepancy you mentioned on the vet report...you did not send me her papers Pamela, I did not know just how old she was...it was simply a quick guess I made when I was in a state of distraught over that very sick puppy.  I see your selling bochelli and dude...I have been trying to get the background on Jezz...which one of them sired Jezz,mouse and zehn I wonder??? 

How about another lie from you Pamela...how about next try and say you sent me Jezz's papers, you told me what her background is???  Now I know for sure that theres a liver shunt gene carried in your lines, and yes...talk about breeding YOUR dogs?  Out of those dogs I am forced now to have each one pass a liver shunt test before they leave here.  I am just sick over having your wonderful lines Pamela.   Anyone who has talked to Pamela, I am sure they have heard her say that she spent 25 years working out all of everyone elses crap out of those lines.  Look at the pedigrees folks, do you see more then one generation of Katurah in them?

Pamela is just used to making up pretty things to say about herself, just as she makes up crappy things to say about others.  Sunday ...I will print the vet report up, I will endeavor to take photos of them, this site only accepts photos....not documents.  So maybe I can get it in a photo format.  Now..until Pamela stops telling her lies...I will go forward with this complaint here and other places.

Rebutal:

13.  Diane, you stated in an email to me about a dog you purchased from a breeder in Northern Idaho.  Stated it had cataracs, scared with its tail not coming up~affraid of its self, and you didn't think the reg papers match to the dog; because you also thought he was an older dog.  I did keep the emails envolving this said dog and breeder [what you stated about them.]  He was also placed per your emails.

14.  Diane, you have stated that my dog's pedigrees and papers don't match.  Again no proof!  False accusation!  All my reg papers match each and everyone of my dogs with no issues and their DNA Numbers accordingly.

15.  I ahear by the rules and regulations of the Breeder of Merit program and am A Breeder of Merit in the most ethical forms with AKC.  Once again slander~falsification and no proof!

Do you and Judy suffer from memory problems and interputation problems?  

16. judy, I have the nasty emails you wrote about Diane; I'm sure she would love to read what you wrote.  Also, i was not screaming or yelling at you at your vet clinic.  Once again falsification.  It is pretty bad when you involve friends of the family of many years to do your dirty work.  I have a letter in which was brought to me about Ceist and Disist which made no since when I'm trying to figure out where my dogs were.  You seem to through this phrase freely and it also means you are to Ciest and Disist [works both ways.]  I wonder how your boss is going to fee when I go forward with my legal issues; since you have been writing ALL this slanderous~harrassment remarks to me and others on this website.  You are an employee working for him and being paid to do a job for him/company.  You also have a Whitney Warren Ranch email address and you placed the companies phone numbers on this site to.

18.  Diane, don't use me to hide behind with giving out your email address.  Be woman enough to give out your email address yourself!  This is only being a coward.  It isn't my responsibility to give out your email address.  Step up to the plate and do it yourself!

I will answer questions for the genuine readers  to clear up any wrongful statements providing my legal team permits it of which Judy, Diane, David have cause and once again no proof or accuracy.

Ceist and Disit Diane Johnson and Judy Robinson [David]

If I am lying..then sue me.  I didnt read thru all your garbage, Yes I did Pay $2000 plus shipping expenses on Nina.  Molly was $1500 plus shipping expenses.  I paid for both in checks.  I already said I was quite happy with
dog number one...thats why I wanted to purchase another from you.  Dog number two...nina..not at all happy with.  I never said that I wanted a pet only, and please send those so called emails claim to have saying I said
that.  If you recall ...I said that I was retiring...mainly the dogs were to keep me busy, keep me moving...but also I said I wanted some very nice, in the event that I do want to take the next step which is breeding, and
even showing.  There are plenty of pet quality paps on line to be got, even much nicer then Nina, and for a whole lot less by the way.  I did say that I had hopes of showing again...but on that score I couldnt promise
100% that I will go as far as showing since my mobility is limited.  But none the less I said...if I do breed them I want something very nice. 

Now that basically was our first contact email.  And your right about one thing...I
didnt ask you for a replacement on nina...on nina I was very understanding,
and if you noticed in the above post...I did say...I will let the matter of nina slide.

Wrong about the vet reports...both reports were of Jezz...both said female, The catarac issue was not a separate report...it was all on one report...dog was found to have liver shunts, and immature cataracs.  Now..what you are
trying to say is...or rather twist into this situation is a dog called Striker.
I purchased striker from some one else...I also decided he was not worth breeding, or keeping because he had a detached retina in one eye.  Striker was placed in a good home also.  I did not even bring up the matter with the
breeder of that dog, I merely sent her an email saying that I was not going to use him, because of his eye condition.  So...as you try to say that it was my puppy who had the liver shunt...Now you want to say the catarac problem
was indeed striker !!!   Cleary in the above post I did mention that the pappy rescue paid $4000 on Jezz's vet bill and think you should reimburse THEM that amount...NOT ME.  My vet investment on her was $2000. 

The bbb...they do not take sides Pamela....you won nothing...for you see all the reports I sent them, including the vet reports that you falsely quote from....they are in YOUR file.  What they do is..when someone
inquires about doing business with you is...they supply what is in your file.

I dont care how you want to cut it...a breeder of merit, a breeder of ethics will not dispute a vet report...two vet reports...that clearly describe what they did find on the dog...a breeder of ethics will not simply decide that they need not honor a trade deal they make with someone...a breeder of merit will stand behind the health on the puppys they sell.  To have you sit there and argue with me, tell me that you knew what was wrong with a dog better then the vets do...to insist on an autopsy report AFTER the dog was dead and cremated...the last report, the dog was opened up...
it states what they found...an autopsy report WAS NOT NECESSARY!
Especially for another $500, just to get the same report !!!  You must be out of your mind !!!  Oh and you talk about a DNA too?

And for what...you dont have all your dogs DNA'd....so proof
of parentage is impossible.  <maybe thats why you dont dna all your dogs maybe?>

Also...a breeder of ethics will not spread lies about other people.  So dealing with you Pamela is having to deal
with a double whammy.  Not only do you put people on the losing end of things...then you add some rather
nasty talk about them too.  That business about no one wanting to deal with me bacause I am rude?  Funny you
should say that, when Jezz's vet called me in the middle of the nite and said he refuses to talk to you on the phone
again, they said they dont need to take your abuse.  They said they would speak only to your vet.  The pappy rescue
people said..and I quote..."and she has the nerve to call herself a breeder of merit !"  She went on to say that you
had nothing nice to say about me, and you insisted that Jezz's problems were my fault.  Rude am I ?  Was I rude
when I told you not to worry about replacing nina?  Was I rude when I told you that I would put YOUR kennel name on the
pups I bred and did go to show homes???  No...I would say that even though I was disappointed in Nina, even though
it was a financial loss to me...I was very nice to you.  But, when it came to the way you handled the jezz situation...the
way you handled our trade deal...yes, my nice went out the window.  

Then you ask me to do the math....yes five puppies in one litter...two went to you...no money....one I co own
with Ellen...no money...Now thats three pups there...one more I did sell myself...$1500.  and ONE puppy sale
you sent me...$1300.  That money pretty much went right to the vets for Jezz's care.  So ...out of that litter of five,
what did that leave...maybe $800.   THAT $800 went on surgery on my old Aussie to remove a growth in her
mouth.  Now mind you...thats the same litter you tell everyone that you sold THREE pups for me.  Can you
do math Pamela?  Apparently not.  Do you want to do the math on the second litter?  Four puppies...I co owned
another with Ellen...no money...I sold one male Puppy $1500...I kept two females myself.  Now do you want to
do YOUR math on your litters?  No...I am not making money on these dogs...consider the cost of buying them,
consider their upkeep, consider the money I lost dealing with you and on Striker..two litters a year and I will be
probably be dead before I see this endeavor make money.

I am not asking my dogs to support me...I am grateful that they have been some help in supporting themselves.
I am not a stupid person kiddo...I have owned my own business and it was quite successful, I am now retired,
I have these dogs...I know they will incur large vet bills along the line...on what I have to  live on myself..theres
no way that I could afford those.  Thus...what ever money they generate goes for any medical care they might need.

Now on the co ownerships?  I ask nothing in return from Ellen...shes showing the dogs...thats all I asked.  Shes a  friend you see...and I have lived by this rule...Never try to make money off your family or friends.  I did consider you once as a friend Pamela...but after Jezz, after the trade deal...your no friend of mine.  I suppose that was one of the reasons why I was so NICE and UNDERSTANDING about Nina.  You Pamela...stab your friends in the back.

Was it right for you to tell me that you were sending me your BEST, she was going to be a specialty winner!
You should be keeping this dog yourself...when in fact she was no more then the runt of the litter? 
Was it right for you to ask me for two of my puppies to "round off your breeding program" then turn right
around and SELL one ?  AND THEN CONTINUE TO TELL ME THAT YOU STILL HAD BOTH ?????   So you and star
both keep on trying to tell me that you are NOT a liar.  Tell me that you do not make up stories and lies to cover up
what you have done !!!   Telling that woman to never contact me because you own all my dogs...now thats a big fat lie !!

Your a real piece of work Pamela...and now I see that your pal star is one too.  You live and you learn...and what I
have learned thru all of this is.....dont do business with Pamela !!! 

YOU TOLD THOSE UMMMMM  WOMEN ,   And by the way ladies , I did not get a retired dog , thats what I was looking for , Instead Pamela blessed me with a very beautiful tri female PUPPY , THANK YOU VERY MUCH !! Get your p's and Q's straight     Now that Pamela said all that needed to be said ,,,,,,This time I'm gone for good  P.S      I would apologize if I was you ladies     MorningStar

To all the readers who are reading through all slander~falsifactions~harrassament about Katurah's Papillons, about Pamela Schweikert, and her personal life:

I'm going to address several issues that are written here on this site about about my dogs, friends, and I:

1.  My guarantee on my dogs are very clear and it is stated on my website what I will and will not cover in  a timely manor.  I have not received anything stating said female will not come into heat since she was in heat here went I sent her and there is record of it of it Judy.

2.  Also, the accusasions made by Judy that she has sent me RRR Mail is fasle and there are records kept with the Postal Service when RRR mail is signed in and delivered.  I do not have to except any mail,verbal writing of any source with abuse, slander, swear words and accutions of untruths.  It is my legal right to refuse disassociate myself from this type of abuse.  I have numberous emails from Judy  and Dianne both with threats, Dianne with swear words, accusations from both and etc...  In fact, I just received an email from Dianne two days ago with written with swear words and abuse.  I sent it back with "Ceist and Diest."

3.  I have never threaten Judy with the IRS and have never told her Laura worked for them.  I just barely found out 2 days ago by email and the next morning it was posted by Judy.  I wonder how this happened???  Also, my friend, Laura is not a dog breeder and even if she was it is none of Judy's or Dianne's business nor anyone elses!

4.  I have never stated Dianne didn't take of the dogs she received from me.  And she received some very nice ones.  She also stated in several emails she wasn't looking for show prospects, just nice family dogs to love.  I sent very nice dogs and Nina I offered several times by phone and in email that I would replace her if she wasn't happy with her.  She kept stating in writing she never wanted to replace her.  I also am just now finding out her size.  Many breeders breed the 4 pound weight dogs and our breed standard with AKC states they are to be slightly longer than tall.  So, I rebuttling her state made her about her being slightly longer.  Place read and study the AKC Statards of Excellence.  Also, I'm going to address the issues with Jezz.  A.  Anyone can breed dogs and never register them with AKC and as far as Dianne stating she has 2-3 litters a year, well she is breeding the Katurah female she got from back to.  Then Dianne states she isn't making a profit, well she states on this sight about the $2,400.00 and $2,500.00 and the Katurah female she go from me produced 5 puppies, please do the math.  Also, I did sell the puppies out of the Katurah female because the puppy buyers phoned and emailed me stating how rude Dianne was and that they couldn't work with her.  I have ALL the correspondence on this and Agreements with Dianne to the puppy in question sold by me for $2,400.00.  Now I will address this issue.  I gave Judy the said puppy in question and there will be no way she can produce a check, money order, cashier's check, or wire transfer stating differently.

4.  I'm now going to address my personal life, starting with Judy's accusations:  A.  I never told you that I intentionally burnt myself~no one would want to live through/go through this.  B.  No private prof.  would give you information on me and nor was it public record.  More falsefication and which story is it when you were ask by Star.  Their are HEPPA LAWS that have to be complied to.  

5.  The BBB:  I spoke with someone there and they were not going to help Dianne and Judy in anyway. They did catch the inconsistancies in Judy's writings, where Zehn is alive and you Judy stated he was dead, which is it.  Also, you falsified the statement in your writings that I have written things about others and you all over the web???  Once again no proof.  I also addressed both Judy and Dianne's issues and there is no proof or DNA testing that these dogs/puppies in question are out of mine.  Also, there have not been correct findings sent to me or my vet.  My vet and I were not allowed to speak with Judy's nor Dianne' vet.  I do have many witnesses who can verify everything when the time comes.  Once again lack of evidence of proper evidence from the both of you.  And Dianne you sent two reports to me on two differnt dogs; a male with cataracts from another breeder and an older dog with other issues nothing to do with Jezz; my vet caught this error and I emailed and spoke to you on the phone about; not counting my witnesses.  Eventhough, Dianne you place Jezz [if it was Jezz] into PapHaven and you state a totally different amount you paid for Jezz's vet care per what you state earlier of the $6000.00 plus.  You relinguished ALL rights to said dog/puppy to PapHaven.  Furthermore, I have addressed the issues reguarding Jezz, with AKC.  I have not received the Neocrospy report as requested and the diagnosis to this day.  There were no warranties implied or applied to this puppy.  When I asked for ALL documentaion, it was never received from you and you also stated, you didn't want to replace her [if this is said dog/puppy] [I have ALL the emails stating everything] once again no proof!

6.  I do not even know a David and I can garuantee there has not been a David to purchase a puppy nor come to my home.  Once again false accusations and no proof!

7.  Judy, I took all 3 dogs to my vet the following morning after they arrived from you.  They had fleas, the phalene suffured from anxiety/and lack of confidence/something happen to her being in a crate by herself [that is why she was placed in the crate with Sammy at 7.5 months old and the airlines cut off is 6 months of age when they have to be placed in a seperate crate] was under weight/tried to bite my vet/couldn't be properly handled/ and had to be seperated from Sammy and feed by a seringe for she could eat on her own and would come out of her shell.  All is documented with my vets and they comment on the treatment of this Phalene.  She was taken to be socialized with my friend/seringe fed/leash trained and etc... [then taken to agility trials and paced around to moguls of performance people.  They all commented on her traumalization from living in the environment she was in, in your care.  I thank my friend and her friends for all there help with seringe feedings and babys sitting, socializing her to be alble to over come {some} of her fears and be able to have {some what} of a happy life.  A.  You stated on this site, Sammy is old and I bred her back to back.  Well, Judy you bred Sammy and she isn't old.  Nor did I get pictures of all the puppies from her to decide on my pick of the litter.  B.  I'm thankful that the Phalene came here and was able to get a great and loving home.  C.  Many breeders breed there females back to back; especially, if they are in great shape and have had and excellent report from the vet.  I do not breed old females and I spay my old females {and they live with me until they pass on.}  I'm not like many other breeders who place their females/males when they are done using them to produce puppies into forever homes.

7.  Dianne,  I sent you the best dogs at a fair price and you never paid $2,000.00 for Nina.  I have my records to proof otherwise.  You have not had any issues with my dogs, that I'm aware of, and you are still breeding the Katurah dogs.  It takes every breeder on the pedigree to produce the dogs you have today.  Furthermore, I have many dogs with several generations of the Katurah name on them and also, there are times when we as breeders purchase outside dogs for our programs and we must carry their [Kennel Names] on the offspring for the firs generation of puppies/dogs one is keeping and everything else is under the contractual agreements.  So, your accusations about my [lines/program/and etc...] are false.  You really should do your research and homework. A.  Dianne, you wouldn't have the nice puppies that were produced out of my dogs [male/female] you breed together [both have Katurah Name's] if it wasn't for me sending you nice dogs.  B.  Many breeders breed dogs that weigh 4 and some even less; it ALL depends on the dog and how things are factor in.  Once again no proof from you and false accussations.

8.  Judy,  I gave you the dog I receive from Dianne for caring for me 2 dogs being with you.  Since you convinced me that my best friend couldn't take care of them.  When it came time to have them returned, I could not receive from you.  Yes, I did involve the police and another entity.  I do have your emails and voicemails stating what you did to the dogs.  I don't think you will want to go there.

9.  Judy and Dianne, you both have stated how wonderful my dogs are and the ones you both recieved.  Also, Judy, you state on this sight, I placed Johnny Cash into a puppy mill.  Well, how do you explain that the lady, at the time was a puppy mill when she only had one dog and got Johnny Cash?  If anyone would like to go to my website and see many pics of Johnny Cash, one can see has and has been very well provided for.  I can not condone the lady for wanting to get into Papillons~showing~breeding~and being happy with her little dogs.  Judy, you turned this lady into so many entities and caused trouble for her handler at the time [I have the voice and emails] and her and I are not your first victims and will not be your last.  You also attacked this lady before the johnny Cash issue over her other Papillon and notified the breeder where she got the dog from.

10.  Judy, you claim on this site, I placed two males into Animal Control.  I never placed any two males in animal controls care.  Nor did I own said males in question.  I have your voicemail, emails, and letter stating you were placing them into animal control.  This isn't your first of time of doing this per your emails and voicemails.  {Placed another breeders dogs into rescue}  My signature and name will not be found on any documatation, unless it has been falsified.

11.  I'm grateful to have gotten my two dogs back and I gained a Phalene who truly needed much love and help {who is now in a very loving home, where my friend was able to find her this wonderful; once we got her over some of her fears, eating problems, but she has never come out of the traumalization from being in a crate by herself; only one knows what really happened there.}

12.  I also, was able to place Ike into a wonderful home also and when the lady phone Judy, she did nothing but slander Ike and I.  Ike was so glad to see me when he landed at the airport and his spirit lifted when he knew he was home.  I never had any issues of him climbing walls and wetting on things.  Neither did my other friend who took care of him for me, who is a trainer.  I have ALL documation!

12.  I'm going to summerize this ALL up.  Through all the smoke and mirrows with things placed on my account on this site and all the falsifications, wrong inturpataions, slander, harrassment, dragging other breeders in to this hateful mix, [the complaints are general, without documentation, dates, or verifiable specifics.  They are inflammatory, inaccurate, and unsubstantiated.  Dianne, David, and Judy appear to be in conclusion in a smear campaign, against Katurah's Papillons and Pamela Schweikert.  I have seeked an attorney for Ceist and Disit Order; plus, for slander, harrassment, and punitive damages.

Meanwhile, I have many, many satisfied and repeat customers who have purchased their performance, pet, and breeding puppies from me and will speak on my behalf to any sincere inquirers.  References are available.

I truly beleive, in my opinion, there are interputation and memory issues with both of these people.  Also, Judy has now started another aligation against me with the cunsumer affairs and I have already sent me replay.

I will rebutall this with more facts if need be at a later day.  But, I will not get into a tit for tat game and will answer questions in a prof way and not in the manorisums that have been seen and written on this sight and intities.  I will do everything under the advisement of my legal counsil.

Judy Robinson and Dianne Johnson, you will Ceist and Disist now from any further slander~harrassment~writings~speaking of me in any way or be faced with legal consequenses.

Dianne and Judy [David]  I will give you a chance to send me a formal sincere written appology and retaction of all the issues written here and otherwise by Cert. Letter and the same will need to be done on this sight.  If not I will take legal action against all parties involved.   All involved have until Monday 25th, 2013.

Rebuttal:  It is very odd Judy and Diane speak such false against me as and my ethics as a human being and dog owner; but yet, they still continue to breed my dogs they got from me and have NO COMPLAINTS of helath issues.  Also, my dogs DO NOT live in smal cages; they are allowed to play and run around all they want to outside and I have a very large area and nice set up for them; not counting the inside of my home.  There are many breeders [if you look on their sites can see their cages~set ups] I give great quality of time with my Papillons, they are very well provided for, happy, healthy, loving, and are always glad to see me and be around me [not running away as Judy stated.]  Once again where is your proof and when did any of you {Dianne, Judy, David} come to my home?

Pamela
Katuarah's Papillons

You know, enough is enough of this Star lady.  When you have had as many

dealings with Pamela that I have, when you have found the need for pamela

to live up to her breeder of merit claims like I have...then you can talk.



Star...alll your doing is having pamela tell you what to say in her behalf,

all your doing is trying to save poor pamela who has gotten herself in

all this mess...and as long as your getting all this stuff from pamela

herself...none of it is worth a hill of beans.   You really need to check

out Pamelas claims before  SHE has you make them.  Claims like someone

putting someone out of business just for instance...did you inquire to

that person yourself and find out how true that is?  Well you should do

that because once again...its not true.  For someone whos out of business

shes still going pretty strong.  But as I can recall Pamela herself was on

a little campagne herself to spread some not nice talk about that person...and

just now...pam pops up on her web page saying nice things about that

very same person.  And why?  Because we mentioned how she did talk

bad about her.  Just like she suddenly posted that the puppy I sent her that

she just GAVE away as a gift.  And that picture of mouse !!!  Like hes

still living amongst us and he was a happy client !!!  Did she add that

mouse is dead from a liver shunt and she would not believe him when

she was told that he had a liver shunt?  "no...these are all my happy

little clients!"  She posted photos of my dogs too claiming I too am

one of those happy clients.  Do I sound like I am happy? 



So no more trying to reason with you Star..your simply Pams spokes

person.  All pamela is doing is trying to make someone think shes

a nice person, a breeder of merit...and yet..I have yet to hear her

say that she will supply resititution and make our issues right.

For myself...no puppy replacements...she can make mine in

cash.  I will let her make payments.  Right now I would say she

owes me for those two puppies I sent her.  The other issues,

on those she can slide.  <nina, and the vet bills on Jezz...I would

however, love to see Pamela reimburse the Pappy rescue for

the $4000. they spent Jezz>  Oh yeah, she also owes me the papers

on Jezz.

  I see that not only doesnt star speak about dna testing to wit

she has no clue as to what dna testing is all about.  Also she

doesnt seem to understand or know what the purpose of the

bbb is.  THEY DO NOT TAKE SIDES....they simply gather the

reports and place them in a file and then share them with

who ever inquires about a persons business practices.  That

they have listed it as 'unresolved' simply means they got

no positive actions from pamela.  Unresolved means that

our complaints were met with Pamelas deaf ears.  Now, if

it was  listed as 'resolved'....then...that says that the consumer

did indeed right the wrongs and were still in favorable standing

with the bbb.  knowledge is power Star...and before you go

throwing around these very shallow accusations...FIRST gather

knowledge.  With out it...your just blowing hot air.

I never said how Pamela kept her dogs.  I have spoken with several people whom have visited her home and they tend not to agree with you of the care they receive. Not everyone who has been at her home are dog buyers.   I am concerned for their welfare when she goes off on her tangents as she does. 

Check with AKC about the females and when their litters were born. I notice you're careful not to say that she didn't breed Sammy back-to-back.   That should prove to you whom is lying.  Pamela in fact did threaten me with Laura and she mentioned her when she was screaming and yelling at my vet clinic.  She also said in an e-mail that Laura used Turbo and paid for his dental and that Laura gave her a dog kennel.  I doubt Laura thinks any of this is funny enough to laugh about.  But then again she didn't purchase a dog with a liver shunt now did she.  Any business professional does not think this is humorous. 

You're new to Pamela's life so why don't you research public records to find out how many years this behavior goes back.  Is her name the only one she's used?  No it's most certainly not.  Why would you change your name if you have nothing to hide?  She did not win with BBB by the way.  It will stay in her file and be there for anyone who researchs the name.  You need to read the letter I got from BBB and then you'd know what you're saying is not true.  Once again you need to research all the facts before you just say what Pamela tells you to.   

Why don't you contact Knights Vet and read the vet report for Zehn since you go to Mt. Home all the time.  Why I wonder doesn't Pamela list Mt. Home as the place where she lives when she responded to this report as well as on her own website.  Another lie? 

I never said how Pamela kept her dogs.  I have spoken with several people whom have visited her home and they tend not to agree with you of the care they receive. Not everyone who has been at her home are dog buyers.   I am concerned for their welfare when she goes off on her tangents as she does. 

Check with AKC about the females and when their litters were born. I notice you're careful not to say that she didn't breed Sammy back-to-back.   That should prove to you whom is lying.  Pamela in fact did threaten me with Laura and she mentioned her when she was screaming and yelling at my vet clinic.  She also said in an e-mail that Laura used Turbo and paid for his dental and that Laura gave her a dog kennel.  I doubt Laura thinks any of this is funny enough to laugh about.  But then again she didn't purchase a dog with a liver shunt now did she.  Any business professional does not think this is humorous. 

You're new to Pamela's life so why don't you research public records to find out how many years this behavior goes back.  Is her name the only one she's used?  No it's most certainly not.  Why would you change your name if you have nothing to hide?  She did not win with BBB by the way.  It will stay in her file and be there for anyone who researchs the name.  You need to read the letter I got from BBB and then you'd know what you're saying is not true.  Once again you need to research all the facts before you just say what Pamela tells you to.   

Why don't you contact Knights Vet and read the vet report for Zehn since you go to Mt. Home all the time.  Why I wonder doesn't Pamela list Mt. Home as the place where she lives when she responded to this report as well as on her own website.  Another lie? 

No...in fact no one MADE me do DNA testing.  However AKC does say that any stud being used more then 3 times in one year, 7 times in his life time should be dna tested.  Akc will require you to do the dna test once he meets those limits.  They can in fact not register the next litter until your dog has been dna tested.  However, that was not the reason why I did the dna test on him.  I plan on Dna-ing all my dogs.  Breeders with ethics do do that you know.  Consequently only Dali's sire was DNA tested, his dam <which Pamela owns> is not.  What I really wanted to know was if Dali's pedigree was actually what was on his papers.  I mean Pamelas ethics were pretty crappy so far...was his pedigree really his?  You cant tell lineage unless both sire and dam was dna'd. So that question in my mind did not get answered.  However, every puppy that
I breed will indeed be able to prove heritage back to its parents, since all my dogs will be dna'd.  And so..did this cure your curiosity?

But I see once again you have shut your eyes to the real issues here.   Did you say hmmmm.....I wonder why Pamela tried to wiggle out of it by saying that I switched dogs?  You question me...and yet...no questions for Pamela?  I had no puppies and like I said... easy enough to prove that one.  Those records are recorded in the AKC...but then...I bet you would rather believe that the AKC lies before you accept the fact that your friend Pamela is a habitual liar.  I am still waiting to hear from you...I check my email box every morning...I can prove every word I have said.  But no... you just get on this Pamela is good soap box, and apparently you dont care to know if shes as good as you say she is...are you THAT afraid of hearing the truth?  Again...this is a forum to post your complaints....and I have done that.  I can back up what I say.  This is a forum to warn the public of her practices.

Is what I say slander?  Its only slander if I cant prove it.  She can sue me if I am lying about all of this...so yes, I can back up what I say.  Oh there will be more Pam lies coming, I am sure...she lies so much, she cant stop.  Is Pamela as honest as you think she is?  Then ask  her for my email and see for yourself if shes feeding you the truth or lies.  Until you do that...your in position to point your finger at who you think is lying or who is speaking the truth.

Judy judy!!                                                                                                                                                                          Laura isn't a breeder, and Pamela would never say that to you , Laura know's what you just wrote , and she laughed her a*s off , She know's Pamela better than any one they are such good friend's , And that would be stupid of Pamela say something like that , I MEAN REALLY GET THE I.R.S  INVOLVED HMMMM  JUDY,  who brought Laura in here , You did!!   And you said Pamela hurt her self , Why do you keep bringing thing's up that hasn't  nothing to do with pap breeding ,Seem's to me your just a pissed off woman out for revenge for what ever reason , Isn't this something that you did to Mary Ann,  My self I'm still a little ticked about you saying Pamela hurting herself , I mean really how does that have any thing do with all this ,,,,,,,, It would be like me saying you shot your self , That would not make any since for me to put that in here , When all this is about a shunt puppies , If you want folk's to believe you , Don't act like a vindictive child , And you saying that Pamela bred carmel last june then again recently, Doesn't make for hundred's of puppies a year , And you never did say how you knew that Pam kept her Dogs in small kennel's when you never been to her home, Your a silly woman , And by the way Pam won on the better business   bureau ,             Dianne isn't the A.K.C making you do the DNA testing , hmmmmm  wondering why they would do that ?

Just like posting online that a dog died from a Bot fly in the brain.  He happens to be a litter mate to the male that has a liver shunt by the way.  They are pests to horses in case you need to look them up.  The vets at UCD stated that they'd never heard of anything so bizarre in their treatment of canines and/or horses as Pamela states on her webpage.  Please check out information she posts online as it's "her opinion" or "her excuse" that she comes up with so as not to deal with reality.

She is now attacking me personally and threatening me with her friend Laura from Boise who works for the I.R.S. and will be turning me in.  I truly hope that happens as they need to be sure Pamela files income tax and claims all the puppy/dog money she has received the last couple of years from me.  I have always filed my taxes and paid my share for over 50 years now and counting.  I heard from her personally that she wants "cash" as you don't have to claim that income.  Hope she has her past years taxes completed correctly.  Don't accuse others of things that you do. 
 
I  believe that Laura is also a Papillon breeder and I doubt she'll appreciate having her name bantered about that she's doing things for Pamela to "get even" with people who have wronged her. 

Just deal with the major issues you have produced and return the money for the dogs that were purchased in good faith and have "no quality of life" thanks to liver shunts.  Just stop your accusations to individuals to get the focus of yourself.  You have no leg to stand on regarding the dogs that were purchased for breeding stock and most definitely were not. 

I feel as though I also should bring up a matter that Pamela now makes claim to...before she even prints it, or gets one of her pals to print  "her rendition" which is totally false.

I reported Pamela to the better business bureau.  They sent her my complaints, she sent them a response back, they sent that response to me.

Now Pamela is claiming that the liver shunt puppy was not hers but one of mine that I was trying to pass off as hers.  Since she never sent me the papers on that dog, she thinks this lie will float also.  It just so happens though, I did not have any puppys when jezz arrived, when jezz got sick.  I also can prove this for you see AKC keeps a record of my breedings, the dates, the sales, when the sales were made, who has them.

Further more, I do have an email that I did send to Pamela with the photo of Jezz BEFORE jezz got sick.  When I turned
her over to the Pappy rescue so she could get surgery, I also sent them the same photo...the same dog !!!  I have both
emails.  Pamela needs to go back to the drawing board on this one and create a better lie as she trys to cover her
behind.  Shes so used to using lies to get her out of these things, when actually its all her lies that has her in this mess!!!

When Pamela, will you ever learn ?

My male dog is dna tested...tomorrow I will order a dna kit for the dam.  This way if there is any question about the lineage of the pups I sold as being anything other then my breeding, the dna will indeed answer that.  Just in case Pamela still thinks she can get by with this lie of hers by saying I simply switched some dog of mine for hers.  However, like I stated above,  there were no puppies here during the time Jezz was here, and that is easily proven.

I also have the letter sent to me by the BBB with Pamelas  accusations about it not being her dog but mine, also she
told them that we are simply out to soil her good reputation.

Well, I think all Pamelas doings are doing a fine job of soiling that reputation in itself  Incidently, I did provide proof backing up my complaints to the bbb.  They said thank you very much, its all going in her file !!!

By the way Ms. Star...If you think this is all I have to live for, your way off...Many was the time I asked Pamela to stop her lies, to just leave me alone.  I find all of this very aggrivating, frustrating...very much the same as when I tried reasoning with Pamela.  You are not reading the complaints, you are not understanding my motives for this...but instead you attack me and claim that I am not being truthful here.

Your just like Pamela..everyone lies...vet reports, vets, me, other people who have complaints against her...and reasoning with you is about as hopeless as it is to reason with Pamela.

I am not a habitual liar.  And I do resent it when some one claims that I am.  You still havent tried to get to the truth here, will you ever try and seek the truth, or just instead believe what ever Pamela tells you.  I can support what I have said...all you need do is ask Pamela for my email address....you have time to dispute my word here...but no time to inquire for my proof?  Whats wrong that picture?  Shame on me you like to say?  Well...shame on you and Pamela too !!

I know theres got to be some reasonable people out there reading these reports and thats all I care about...public...

beware !!  This report isnt for you, it isnt for those lucky enough to get a healthy puppy from pamela...its for those not so lucky.

Star:

Per Pamela's own page it states "bred Sammy to Turbo".  Just last June Sammy whelped puppies.  What do you call that? 

Her own Carmella was bred back-to-back while I was caring for Pamela's dogs as well.  Her own website stated the facts about that. 

Once again you need to get your facts straight...

Yeah, everyone lies except your friend Pamela. !!!

I dont need the papers on Jezz...simply need to know who her sire and dam was.   Reasonable enough request, dont you think?  Some breeders ARE interested in not destroying the breed you know.  I would like to know if all these three liver shunt pups that I know of are of the same breeding...of course, maybe this is something Pam might not want me to know, why wont she tell me who the sire and dam is ?  And since Pam has proven to me just how much she does lie and try to cover up her tracks, the akc papers dont lie.  The university of Pa would also like to know the back ground on Jezz, that information would help them in their research.

Through out my dealings with Pamela I said that I dont blame her for Jezz...these things do happen, one cannot for see these things...but what I do blame her for is the way she has handled this situation...and the situation with the trade deal on my two pups.  No ethics what so ever.

Over and over she flat out lied to me when she told me that she did indeed have both my puppies...oh thats
right..Pamela never lies !!!!   She lies about selling three puppies for me...She lied to the girl who purchased
the puppy, saying that she owns all my dogs...She lied to the public when she posted jezz was murdered.

And now...to cover up her tracks some more...shes lying when she said she gave that puppy away as a gift.

She lied when she said we had a deal...she would sell one puppy for me and I would give her two pups in return.

She lied when she told me nina was a specialty winner, shes just a late bloomer.  Nina was the runt of the litter.

Pamela knew that I wanted to purchase a female to breed to my male dog, who happens to be 11 inches to the shoulder.

And even then I didnt argue with her over that, I simply purchased another dog that would fit that bill.  I kept nina for two years, Pamela said she was a late bloomer, okay, I gave her a chance to 'bloom'...I was right all along, little tiny nina, which Pamela said I could still breed to my 11 inch male.  Uh...no...I dont
think so Pamela !!!  She only weighed about 4 lbs and she wants me to breed her and to a dog thats three times her size??  I placed Nina in a good home...shes a pet...shes not a breeder.    And again, more pamela lies,now saying that

I wanted a pet..not a dog that I could breed.  Then she says to me...what do I expect...breeders dont give up their BEST.

Excuse me...I didnt ask for her BEST, but when she sent Nina to me...those were the words she used to describe her !!!

Out of the crate comes this little tiny thing, no coat, her tail not up...never did go up..she never did grow much coat..she did have a pretty head though.  A little too long in body, short legs...and while Pamela kept trying to encourage me into breeding nina I said...Pam, I think a dog needs a little more then just a pretty head before I can call her a good brood b***h.  Plus this dog is way too small to even consider breeding.

And so, I simply threw away $2000 right there.  And the understanding soul that I am I said....no problem pam...dont worry about it.  But you see, the more understanding and forgiving that I became, the more out ragious Pamela became in our dealings.

The first dog I bought from her I love...hes pretty, wonderful dog, a little too big for any show ring...thus the reason why I went to her for the second dog.  I was very disappointed when I got nina.  But, Pam came thru on the next dog that I purchased from her...ninas sister.  I was a little shocked to find out that nina and molly were litter mates.  If she was sending me her BEST with nina...why was molly so much nicer? 

Definitely, Nina was no more then the runt in the litter.  I did not pay pet price for Nina...I paid for some quality.  Theres plenty of little runty paps on the internet for 2-3 hundred dollars.

I went the extra mile, with the extra dollars to get something nice.

I did breed molly and dali...thats when pam decided she wanted the two females in that litter. My intent was to sell all five of those puppies.  Still being very forgiving and understanding with Pamela, I did agree to her trade deal.

Still trusting that she was a person with some ethics, I sent her the papers on those pups.  She sends me Jezz, no papers.  Was Jezz as nice as the pups I sent her?

No...a little better then nina was, so I said nothing.  One month later Jezz is sick as all hell.  It cost me $2000. to find that she has a liver shunt, another $200 for a optomolgist to confirm her immature cataracs.

Now this is where Pamela became totally unreasonable.  She refused to accept what that report said, and the report I got from the University of Pa.   After the dog was cremated, she says she would only accept an autopsy report as proof.   Now, that would have been another $500 out of the pocket, when already it was clear enough what the problems were.  However, she requests this autopsy report after the dog was cremated.  And already I could see that NO report would have been able satisfied her anyway.  just another excuse another reason why the autopsy was a lie also.

It would have been the same report...liver shunts, etc.  Legally I only need reports from a vet stating the dog has problems.  And from a breeder of merit...I need only supply the reports I did supply for them to refund or replace the puppy. 

Then, understanding and forgiving me, I said okay...forget about replacing Jezz...but then theres the matter of the second puppy you owe me.  How did that go?  "well, didnt I sell three puppies for you?  No...you didnt.

And no...there was never any  mention about me owing you a puppy for one puppy sale.  Thats just about
when I thought...why am I fighting this woman for what she owes me...what in Gods name will she send me next?   A friend mine said, you should get that puppy and if you dont want it, sell it.

Uh...no...and what if that puppy is a liver shunt puppy like jezz?

Who will have to replace it?  Me. Nope, after all of this, I dont want another dog from Pamela.  Shes done enough, I am not interested in going back to her for more.  You would think this would have ended right here.

No...many months later I find out that Pamela sold one of the pups I sent her for $2500..<which she now claims to have just given away as a gift..the girl has a canceled check, but I guess checks too lie>  Add to that the big lie Pamela told her about her owning all my dogs, what a horrible person I was, how badly I treat my dogs...then comes the big discovery that Jezz was not the only liver shunt dog, and I was not the only person that she treated the same way she did me.

Okay I said, enough is enough...the public should beware.

Well you can continue to support Pamela because she gave you one of her retired dogs for free.  Which was to her advantage.

The dog no longer any use to her for breeding..but what if you were in the shoes of one of us who received a very sick dog from her...what if you spent thousands of dollars at the vet with that sick puppy, and what if after that she gave you the flipping finger??

How wonderful would you think Pamela was then?  Its not just us who has suffered at her hands already, but its those yet on the horizon who will suffer the same.  It is for those that this report is intended for and for no other reason.

You need to get the facts straight.  I DID NOT buy Jezz.  You keep throwing that up to me.  I purchased Zehn.  I don't get you except that you're doing what Pamela tells you to do.  I get that.

Court records are "public".  All you have to do is get a copy and read them for yourself.  "Not being able to testify because you can't tell the truth under oath pretty much says it all. 
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My personal life is no concern of yours, but you got your information from Pamela so that sums it up once again. As far as Pamela's accident is concerned, she told me she was burned in a car accident and then she later changed her story.  That information came directly from her one night when she was rambling about losing her boyfriend. 

AKC registers litters which answers your question about number of puppies produced. 

I didn't send Jezz to "puppy haven"...Neither did Dianne as Pamela accused her of in her e-mails.  Pamela raised her and thus is responsible for the end result.  Please get your facts straight.  Dianne purchased Jezz and was never sent the AKC registration papers that are due when you pay for the dog per AKC regulations.   

I believe this answers all your concerns.  All any of us wants is Pamela to accept her mail, answer the phone call and/or respond to e-mails,  send dog papers when the dogs were purchased as in Jezz case, however that's not happened.  This would not have been necessary if she had responded to her "buyers" like a professional she professes on her website she is.  She keeps posting her comments there, but there's no way to respond to her untruthful comments.  Thus this public forum is the best way to deal with her behavior. 

  Judy !!   Up to this point all this was to me light banter. I really do not have a dog in this fight , Just standing up for my friend  to what I know is right , I can't prove any thing , I can't prove I heard your voice message's or seen any of your e-mail's , That's up to pam , I can't prove you didn't get a shunt puppy from her either , I just know what I know.  I do not have a dog in this fight , But I'm pretty sure I've proven to who ever decide's  get's on this sight , That you know nothing about how she breed's her dog's . You nor dianne have chosen to say how you know she breed's hundred's of puppies a year (WHICH SHE DOESN'T!)or how you know she keep's her pap's in small kennel's since either one of you have not been to her home and you both live across the country from her  , When I have and I've seen no such thing , Which make's me wonder what esle you both are lying about , And I'm sure any body else that get's on this sight will notice you haven't answered my quiestion's.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Judy you have proven you have NO intregrity, or ethics by acussing pam of hurting herself, Really who would say that? But an ugly person and I'm not talking about your looks , I mean this is pretty low of you, Just prove's what kind of person you are AN ugly ugly person , Let's say it true (WICH IT'S NOT) How could you air some's one's laundry like that , Any one that would do that to them self, Would have to be hurting pretty badly, Not mentaly healthy , and you would let the whole world know , and make it worse on them , Don't you have any humanity , I think you like to humiliate people to knock them down as low as you can get them and that make's you a ugly person and very vicious .                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               I happen to know the person who was on the phone with pam when her clothe's and hair caught on fire , She told me what happen , Pamela started screaming that she was on fire and her friend told me how helpless she felt living so far away that all she could do was pray for her , She felt so stupid for not hanging up and calling the cop's, I seen the pain in her friend's face that she couldn't do any thing she felt so helpless , After her friend told me that , I felt like I could actualy hear pam screaming in pain, I know how easily your clothes can catch on fire in the kitchen since I'm a cook . There are certain material's you should not wear in the kitchen and in some kitchen's are not allowed , This one cook's shirt actualy caught on fire, But since it wasn't very flammable his shirt was burning slowly , He was the butt of our joke's for week's . Could have easily gone the other way, And you want me to ask pam what really happened like I don't believe her , To hell with that , I did tell her what you said ,  I heard the hurt in her voice , That was enough for me , And she told me some thing's wich I'm not going to put on here ,
 
Judy a professional told you Pam hurt her self , LMAO!  Professional  in what gossiping telling untruth's , A professional wouldn't never say that , A professional know's about the HIPPA LAW . which is a fedrale law. I'm sure you know about the HIPPA LAW , I'm sure you have gone to a doc some time or another and signed the papper's saying that you understand what the HIPPA LAW is , The HIPPA LAW  is not only for the medical field , It's for all professions that deals with peoples right to privacy , and how I know this is . I work in a hospital have to take module test on this every year , have for the last 23 year's , and my husband is a nurse , we have to know this stuff and at your age Iwould think you would know this , Oh yeah Iknow your going to sick your attorney on me for saying your a ugly person , Slander slander uh ?  You can say that , But that wont work , I know my right's and there was no slander coming from me , Your the one honey that did the slander here against pamela , And by the way I did not say your going to here from my friends hubby the attorney , I have no reason for any attorney to get a hold of you , Go back and read EEEE GAD'S  Do you normaly misunderstand what some one write's , And if Idid have a reason to send attorney after you , Would not be him , He was easy to get ahold of , Well his wife , right at my finger tip's ,  And if I needed attorney , I already have 2 attorney's, and they are already paid for , You see through my work place we have this benifit , I pay a monthly fee , like medical insurance , But it's not medical, It's a type of insurance for a attorney' s if needed , I've been paying for this monthly for the last 3 years and not only doe's it pay for my own attorney's . I could use any one of the hospital attorney's and this hosptal has attorney's all over the untited state' just like this hospital has sister hospitals all over the untited state's , My work place even has insurance for pet's now , And this coming november I'm adding my pappilon puppy that I recieved from pamela  , And if you think I'm lying all you have to do is call a hospital and ask them if they carry this benifit ,  So easy to do ,   But like I  said I have NO REASON FOR ANY ATTORNEY TO GET AHOLD OF YOU.  did you understand that , I typed it big enough , lol, like your attorney has no right to get a hold of me , Just  correcting what your saying about pamela , I have ever right to be on here as you , Freedom of speach like you said your self, Now pamela may have a great big reason to send attorney your way  If Iwas you I  would woman up and say I'm sorry , I doubt you will as for your not a nice person , You showed your true colors and you have proven to any and all what kind of person you are,Who knows you might have had a fighting chance if you didn't say that very awful thing about pamela hurting her self   and by not answering about how would you know pamela keep's her pap's in small kennel's and have hunred's of pup's a year (which she does not ) but you and dianna has not answerd , You have no leg to stand on ,  Since I'am a nice person I wont say what I know about you , But I will say this , Are you trying to mirror your self on to pamela . now thats all I'm going to say about that , But I do know thing's about your personal life , But I don't believe in airing out any one's dirty laundry for every one to see, and I don't like to hurt any one and make them hurt, I DON'T ENJOY THAT AT ALL , UNLIKE YOU JUDY                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   Dianna  Did you not relinquish jezz to pap haven?? , and why would you want papper's on a dead dog ??  ok I'm not coming back again , We all sound like children , she said this she said that , she did this she   did  that,    Time for all of us to grow up , I'm almost 50 ,  have to many thing's going on in my life to spend time in here , bet you both , You respond right away like this is all you have to live for , Well I'm not , I have hobbies a job a life and a hubby  and most important right now class, Good bye for ever and a day STAR  

  I take it that you and Pam are really close buddies, you both

make up things the same way.   If you want to continue to endorse

someone who does not honor her trade deals, who does not respect

vet reports, and who runs around lying about people...then you just

continue to go for it.  I am the one that suffered through losing Jezz,

I am the one that lost two pups to Pamela...and you?  She gives you

a retired dog for free...so you think shes just wonderful.



I have never recieved a phone call from you...no ones called here

asking for a free retired dog, I dont advertise on line kiddo...so

just where did you get my phone number and name?  Your in Idaho

or in that area somewhere...I am on the east coast...I dont even

associate with people showing dogs in your neck of the woods, so

you didnt get my number from anyone there.  And if your so good

at finding things..why havent you taken up my challenge and emailed

me?



Further more, I ran a successful business all my life, and I am not

rude on the phone.  However, I have had someone tell me that Pamela

says the reason why she sold THREE of my puppies was because I

was so rude that no one would buy one from me.  Now mind you,

I did clarify that Pam only sold ONE...not THREE.  So this rudeness

stuff sounds like its a direct hit coming from Pamelas mouth again.

Now you see...I too can get people who have bought from me to

write glowing reports about me...but that is not the issue here.

The issue simply is....Pamela does not handle dogs with issues

with even a little bit of ethics.  Pamela does lie.  She calls the

vet reports liars...shes vindictive...and she does not honor her

trade deals.  I am not talking about allllll her little sales that

have gone right...I am talking about when her sales go wrong.

I recieved a liver shunt puppy, and she put me thru hell...Judy

has a liver shunt puppy, and again...she gets treated like I

did...Mouse was a liver shunt puppy...and Pamela also refused

to accept that.   Now since your such a religious person,  dont you

think someone should warn people to be very careful because

there is danger lurking there?  Or are you part of the belief that

its okay to just toss folks into the lion dens?  Like I said before,

even Hitler has his followers....he had lots of people call him

wonderful...but then...ask those people that were tossed in

the ovens just how wonderful a person he was.  Did YOU

sit there watching little jezz get horribly sick and die?  Did

you spend thousands trying to save her?  Did you have Pamela

tell you that all those tests then ran was no more then lies,

that she knew better then any vet, all the vets here didnt

know what they were doing..her vet that did a SIMPLE

health certificate check said the dog was healthy...did

her vet XRAY Jezz to see if her liver was of normal size?

No...but her vet said she was healthy and she was going to

stick with that.  Uh..Pamela..your vet did not run all the tests

on jezz that these vets did...your vet did not check for a liver

shunt...these vets did.  Nope she says...all my dogs are healthy

and thats the end of it...never had this happen before...and thats

the end of it. Oh yeah, went thru the bit where she blamed poison

spiders, me dropping the dog on its head...it was all about what

did I do to the puppy...oh then it was the eukanuba food..Pamela

I said...Jezz is the only sick dog in this house...we dont have

poison spiders...and no...she was never dropped on her head..

plus......the vets are saying her problems are CONGENITAL.

None of the above Pamela...she has a liver shunt, her liver

is underdeveloped...and immature cataracs are showing up,

because she was not getting nutrition due to her almost

not functioning liver.  Nope again she said I sent you a healthy

puppy.  Well, the healthy puppy is dead because she had no

liver function...and I ran a healthy puppy to vets and paid them

lots of money because she was soooo healthy and doing soooo well.

Yeah right !!!    Well if this saves one person from the lions den,

then its worth it...or maybe just maybe...it MIGHT change Pamela !!

Maybe the next time she might read the book of ethics !!!

But I will say this...Pamela lost my support when I saw her true

colors...shes not a breeder of merit.



Now again...I really dont give a s**t....I have no intentions of getting

another dog from Pamela...One liver shunt, one that I had to just

give away...and two of my pups gone...is lesson enough.

Pamela reported the dogs stolen so "I could not place them anywhere" as they were "hers" so if you wanted one of them you should have had her make arrangements to release them to you instead of animal control.  I told you that.  I could not transport them to the airport as "Pamela" reported them stolen thus I could not release them to you as I would have done so, but you said you could not afford the "shipping" per my notes from our phone call.

As far as putting a dog down Zehn had been diagnosed with a liver shunt by two tests and I also told you that.  Upset about dealing with a dog with a liver shunt, you bet I am.  Pamela said "I also have firt right of refusal of Zehn and have not been that opportunity to truly know and understand what is going on with him:per her own e-mail dated January 18, 2013 at 9:38 AM.  I typed her response exactly as it's printed from her own e-mail. 

"Zehn is not to be destroyed until I have notified and exhuasted my findings."  I would be glad to send you a copy of the entire e-mail should you want the proof.  She has refused RRR mail, phone calls and of course blocked me from her e-mail per her own comment.

You seriously need to think before you accuse people when you don't know all of the facts.  There are two sides to every story and you're being fed only the information Pamela wants you to have. You need to "cease and desist" commenting about my business dealings with Pamela.  I look forward to hearing from your "best friends lawyer".  I have told the truth and apparently that upsets Pamela Schweikert.  The comment about her injury came from a professional who dealt with Pamela and she gave me their contact information.  Maybe you should request a copy of the trial that Pamela lost and and read it.  I have nothing against you, except you are stating false information including what was said in our phone conversation.  You are only listening to Pamela's form of the truth and repeating it. 

This is not the first time there has been incidents posted on ripoff about Pamela and/or Katurah's Papillons nor am I the first person to purchase dogs that end up with major health issues.  I have told the truth and that's what I will continue to do. 

I received a response from BBB yesterday in which Pamela states she was not notified about Zehn's issues.  Well, that's 100% not true as copies of the two acid bile tests were "hand delivered" to her home.  Thus that's a lie.  She very carefully tries to put the blame on anyone who has an issue with her including local agencies.  It's time she steps up to the plate and accepts responsibility for producing dogs with major health issues.  I have her response in writing should you wish to read that as well. 

Judy 

 I did not say your the one that hung up on me , That was dianne , I called breeders all over the state's before I even of heard of Pamela , And yes I hung up on dianne when I ask about a retired papillon , She wasn't very friendly , So I hung up , And as for me accusing you of killing those pup's , I did not accuse you , I asked nicely if you was going to put those pup's down , And you said no . that you was going to send them to a shelter , And that you was going to put down only one , And I asked about getting one of those pup's that you was going to put in the shelter , And yes I could have paid for shipping but not a papillon price , But you did not want to ship me one of those pup's , you rather put them in a shelter , And that's what was said , And as for you saying that I only knew pam online that's not true , I've talked to pam on the phone , And that was then , Now figure this out. I live in Payette ID , look at a map and figure out how far I live from Pam, Now after doing that tell me that I couldn't have been to her home , We visit all the time , Not always at her home , But yes we visit all the time, Oh by the way , My best friends hubby is a lawyer,  As soon as I seen that you said you could have a lawsuit against me, I had my friend log into this sight and talk to her hubby ,  You have nothing against me , All I was doing was contradicting the slander you was throwing out at pam , So blast off !!

Dianne  gezzzzzzzzzzz  read what I wrote again , I'm not the one that said Pamela breeds hundred's of pup's a year , I said not possible even if she did breed her dogs back to back (which she does not )  and as for her saying any thing bad  about how you treat your dogs , She has never , not once said that you treat your dogs bad to me , Only that she sold your katurah pup's for you , I'm not going to going to write every thing down again , just read again ,  Now I'm asking the both of you again , Have either one of you been to her home , You have not , So neither one of you have  no right on saying how she takes care of her pap's,   I'm the one who's been to her home , like I told judy , Do the math , pull out a map and figure out how far is payette Id is from where pam live's , And tell ME  that I couldn't have been to her home ,  I have no idea who's giving you false information about how pam raise's pap's , but they are( WRONG!!) Pam take's care of her pap's very well , UH so she doesn't have alot of land for her paps to run on ,neither do I , And my Dogs go in kennel's when I'm not home , Whats wrong with that , Her pap's have the run of her home when she's home , And her home is sectioned off with dog gates , So blast the both of you, So you can't tell me  that I'm the one who is getting false information , I truly can't say there is nothing wrong with any of your pap's since I haven't seen them , And if there is I'm truly sorry , My dog's are my babie's , , Like one of the nice folk's on here said breeder's are not God , But if your spreading lie's about how pam takes care of her pap's , What else are you lying about , So like you told me , GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT . 

  Judy did you really say that pamela harmed herself , tsk tsk . If that isn't slander I don't what is, I'm wondering what my friends hubby will have to say about that , Not that I'm going to do any thing about it , I'm just curious , Not my place any way , hmmmmmmmmm  wondering what's pams lawyer will have to say , And did you really say she did it to get   at her ex boy friend hmmmmmmm  , Wondering what any of that has to do with breeding pap's   Slander Slander And as for me being religious , Any body can be religious , any body can be a christian ,   I'm a believer of Jesus as my personal saviour and as for you calling me , I do have a job and a life , So more than likely I wasn't home , And as for answering machine , Don't have one don't want one, I always forget to check them any way, Some one really want's to get a hold of me , Some one that matter's to me has my cell, lol, thinking hmmmmmm   I really can't believe what you said about pam hurting her self , You said that where every one can read ,  Slander slander , I'm making a copy of that , Just in case pam doesn't get it , I' m sure she can use that some how , Ok I'm gone , Not coming back , To busy with my life than to waist time at this ,  Beside's I got what I wanted ,,, Naughty Naughty judy   

Good bye now 

Payette....you said it yourself...."Pam breeds hundreds of dogs a year"...shes got all those dogs living in a cage, a small excersize pen, not too swell is she when it comes to keeping them groomed. Breeds them well into their senior years...the dogs are her INCOME. Pamela is in it for the money.

And then you suggest that I am in it for the money...I dont need to live off my dogs..I dont ask my dogs to support me.
I breed one or two litters a year, and what ever little money that comes out of that goes right back on my dogs.  Its
not my money...its their money...they made it.  That money there is vet expenses, and what ever else they might need.

my dogs dont live in cages, they are all house pets...they have an acre fenced in for them to run around in.  they
are kept well groomed, well fed, the reason they are here is to give me something to keep me busy in retirement. as far as that lady in calif. who kept pams dogs for her. She did the smart thing and took those dogs to the vets for pamela to retrieve...she did the smart thing and had photos taken of them...because pamela claimed the dogs were not taken care of, abused...and she claimed the woman stole them from her. All I can say is...that lady covered her self real good...she had proof that Pamelas claims were not true.  I will say that two times....PAMELAS CLAIMS WERE NOT TRUE.

payette....let me tell you something.  I dont know you, there fore I have no reason to attack you as you say.  You simply have your story wrong. Your no doubt getting it from Pamela...I do not owe pamela ANYTHING. Pamela does not own in any way any of my dogs...and I paid good money for each one of them.  Pamela has said before that she owns allllll my
dogs...that is a pure LIE.  Your just going to have to come to grips with the fact that the liar in this bunch is Pamela herself.  Theres but two dogs in all this world that I co own with someone, and its NOT pamela, its with my good friend Ellen.  Those are two of my puppies, there was no cash involved in them...I simply co own them with her.  And to suggest that I am in this for the money only...not true...out of a litter of five, I sent two to Pamela...no money.....I co owned one....no money. I sold only two.  this last litter of four...I co owned one again...no money, I kept two....I sold one.  If it was only about money with me...Pamela would not have gotten two of my pups.

let me make one more thing clear....Pamela sent me ONE puppy sale. In return I sent her a dozen or so sales...now mind you...Pamela NEVER said...that I owed her a puppy for that favor. Well that is until I asked her about honoring our trade deal.  Then all of a sudden she tells me that she sold three of my puppies for me and there for owed me nothing. No pamela I said...there were five pups in that litter, you got two...I co owned one with Ellen, I sold one to a gal in Pa who has been waiting for 8 months for a dali pup...and you only sold the pet pup that went to NY.  And so...she tells YOU that she sold puppIES for me?  Like I said...if your hearing it from Pam...you can count on it being one big fat fabricated LIE.  Add to that...she asked me for nothing to list the pups I had on her web page.  I certainly did not ask her to do that....she OFFERED.  If she even said that I owed her two pups for that...I would have said no thank you, I can sell them myself.

And I could have....I kept getting replys to the ad on them...to wit I sent them to Pamela.  I could have sold the two I sent to Pamela even !!!  But noooo...pamela said she wanted them to round out her breeding program...so to pamela they went....and then she simply turns around and sells them herself.  The woman is a LIAR, she lied to me...kept telling me that she still had them !!!!  Duh? Where is the liar?  Who pulls shady deals???  Well if your a truth seeker...your definitely in the wrong camp !!!

Payette...you have your whole story WRONG.  Pamela has never given me a dog for free.  Every dog I own I paid for.  Pamela though ended up with a free dog from me...actually two free dogs...remember the deal was...two of mine for two of hers...which she did not honor.  she sent me one liver shunt puppy that died because of its congenital conditions.  So there sits pamela with two healthy pups from me....and here I sit with one dead pup and a very large vet bill. AND lets not forget that Pamela took one of the pups I sent her and sold for $2500.  I think you can basically call that theivery !!!  If your getting your facts from Pamela...no wonder they are not at all straight !!!

I re-read my notes from the phone call you made to my home Star accusing me of "killing Pamela's dogs" and I was not rude to you.  You said you wanted one of the dogs that she had released to Animal Control, but you could not afford the shipping of them to you in Payette, Idaho.  I told you that I had cared for her dogs for over 14 months.  It's not possible she tried to get her dogs back for over a year as the puppies were born mid year and would not have been able to be shipped to Pamela until they were released by a vet to be shipped cargo.  You need to get all the facts before you accuse and slander people online.  You should be prepared to be contacted by my lawyer about all your false accusations as this needs to "Cease and Desist" immediately. 

I tried to contact you yesterday as I was instructed to do, but you wouldn't answer the phone from the number you called me from that's registered to Dorothy Ballard.  If you seriously think you hung up on me you have issues as well as you were quite polite when speaking to me and admitted you only knew Pamela online and had never been to her home when you called me with your false accusations. 

You should be very careful not to get involved in business transactions that do not concern you.  You said you wanted to hear from me, but when I phoned you would not answer the phone and there's no recorder at that number.  If you seriously wanted a response you would have answered your phone.  However, I'm sure you're doing as Pamela asked you to.  I feel sad that you're believing half truths as you can see from this report there's more than one person who's had to deal with purchasing dogs with health issues, not receiving the AKC registration papers that were paid for when the dogs were purchased from Katurah's Papillons's. 

You should feel bad for the dogs that are having to deal with major health issues and the people who have to watch them suffer while Pamela Schweikert refuses RRR mail, phone calls and/or blocks e-mails.  Yes that's an adult way to respond.  Selling puppies online is most definitely a "business".  All dogs that I have purchased from Katurah's Papillons were in fact paid for and I have the cancelled checks and/or bank checks to prove it.  They prove that she received payment for them and need to be reported as income.  As their breeder she is "responsible" she says and wants first right of refusal, well then answer your phone, receive your mail and stop trying to hide from reality that there are real health issues that have to be dealt with instead of having your friends attack the people who have tried to resolve these issues with you and you refuse to deal with the requests.   She can't say that she hasn't been contacted by all of us before any report was filed.  She says she received a "thryoid test" from my vet when her own vet clinic said it's an "acid bile test" that detects liver shunts.  She says she can read the tests better than her vet as she's been doing this for over 45 years.  If that's the case, then contact the people who have dogs you have bred and resolve the issue. 

I know you thrive on the attention you get from the people whom you inflict your daily drama on.  That's why you continue to harrass public entities daily so as you're not alone.  You don't care who you yell and scream at, accuse and/or make false accusations against them.  I do feel sorry for somebody who inflicted pain on themselves to get the attention of their old boyfriend, however that has nothing to do with the real issue here.  So please deal with it now and stop this dysfunctional behavior. 

My son, my family and friends have not responded to this report. I have repeatidly tried to contact you and offer up the proof Pamela and others said I dont have.   I have repeatidly said, ask pamela for my email address...and yet...no one has. <or she just wont give it to any one>

 I am tired of hearing all the garbage Pamela is saying about me, about my dogs, how I treat them...shes calling me a liar...and it does need to stop.   I have five paps, one old aussie, all live in my house as house pets.  All are very well taken care of, all are kept well groomed, all know what it is to share my bed at nite.  They have an acre fenced in ...Pamelas dogs live in a cage.  I am retired, pretty much home bound, the dogs are here to keep me active.  I dont do alot of breeding...this is not a money venture to me.

Pamela is no threat to me, nor would I call her competition, she lives in Idaho, I live on the east coast.  I do show my paps now, but I dont get into the dog show politics, since someone else is doing the showing for me.  Like I said, I am home bound, I dont get out and  about much, I mind my own business...but I will not stand quiet over what pam has done to me and what she does say about me.  I asked her time after time to stop...she wont.

if she was so ethical...there would be no report for me to make.

Before you claim my statements untrue...ask Pamela for my email address. I will show you the vet reports, the emails from her...to say that all your dealings with her has been wonderful...you simply cannot speak upon those who has had bad dealings with her.  You did not receive a liver shunt puppy from her...I did.  She did not ask you for two of your puppies in return for two of hers and then not honor that deal.   Yeah, let me send you photos of the two I sent her...and then let me send you the photo of what she sent me.   Let me send you the emails I recieved regarding the other liver shunt puppies she sold !!!  I have the vet report...seek it.

I know what was discussed when you phoned me about Pamela's dogs.  I don't know why you would want to get involved with an issue you know nothing about.  Tell Pamela to accept her registered mail and she might get the chance to find out what issues there are about the dogs that "I paid for".  You have no idea what you're talking about, however you have the right of freedom of speech just like the rest of us who have given all the "facts". 

Good for you that you were "given" a free dog.  That speaks volumes as the rest of us paid for ours dearly and there's s tiny male with a liver shunt produced by Katurah's Papillon's that she has refused to do anything about to date.  Amazing isn't it.  Her vet in Mt. Home has the vet tests (both of them) in case you would like to see them.  Nothing fabricated from any of us as we have documented proof. 

I thought religious people had better things to do than outright lie on a daily basis.  Just remember God sees and hears what you do everytime you use others to do your dirty work for you. 

I just love Pamela 
Pamela has helped healed my heart, I don't understand you people why don't you all just blast off . Pamela (GAVE ME) a very beautiful healthy Papillon , Judy, Dianne! , just like she (GAVE THE BOTH OF YOU PUP') Judy   you said that Pamela asked you for   pup's and that she didn't have the money for them . But that she needed them to round out her line , OOP'S THINK THAT WAS DIANNE, Dianne I will get to you later , for now it's Judy"s turn. Blast you Judy you owed her those dog's for giving you those pup's , Took her a year to get those pup's to, You said that she gave you a to small dog to breed , And the breeder she is she sent you another one , not sold you , But gave you ,just like the first one , and the 2 of you agreed that you would give her pup's later , And it took her over a year to get them. You told me your self that you owed her those pup's but you rather send them to the shelter, At first you said she could get them , but she had to go to the vets her self to get them , Your vet which is in California and you said she refused to pick them up,UH DUH!!  Pamela is in Idaho !  That wasn't the agreement ,   Judy what else are you lying about , Dianne blast you to , leave Pamela alone , The both of you are the one's doing the slandering hear , Including David and that Jr person , All I've seen Pamela do hear is protect her self not slander. And by the way who was the first one writing on this sight , Not Pamela , hmmmmmmmmm thinking Hmmmmmmmmmmm  ah!  I know!!  Judy and Dianne and their followers ,,,,, As for that letter whom it may concern , Yes that did come from Judy I seen the original , Sorry folk's came from Judy your friend the leader , Was not written from Pamela , She just posted it for all to see , Yes on this sight she can't prove that she didn't write it. But you folk's don't want to know the truth any way , ah to bad  so sad. oh yeah another thing she breeds hundreds of puppies a year, Wow!!  How many b***h's does she need to do that? , I'm thinking here , hmmmmmmm  I've seen her Dogs can they produce hundred's of pup's a year hmmmmm thinking , lets says she does breed them back to back (Which she doesn't)  can they produce hundred's of pup's , hmmmmm still thinking  nawwwwwwwww   not possible!!  Judy! Dianne !! and you other's have you been to her home?  Think not!!So how can you say such untruth's and as for her being into breeding only for the money , Why would she give me a pup or the give the rest of you a pup , She not only Gave me a beautiful healthy pup , she gave the paper's to me also with  no  no   string's attached . Some  one said that Pamela has changed in the last couple of year's . Oh my lord! help me with these people !!  Who wouldn't have changed after being caught on fire and having all those surgeries , I know  I would , and I have, I've had breast cancer , I'm pretty sure that I've changed , But I haven't gone through what Pamela's gone through , So shame on all of you.  uh Dianne as for one of your pup's having cataracts, Was that not one  from another breeder , I know which breeder and so do you , Not katurahs though . You know who I'm talking about , Not going to say on this sight , I don't want a lawsuit , But you know exactly what breeder I'm talking about, And your blaming Pamela, Think again hun , Untruth's will bite you in the a*s , and Didn't Pamela sell your katurahs puppies for you , And the reason why is? hmmmmmm thinking might be the reason is know one want's to deal with you , Your rude very rude so know one want to deal with you , hmmmmmmmmmm  thinking here, ah that's right I made a call to you myself , I was just looking for a retired papillon that"s all since I can't afford a puppy, Was you rude to me  , Yes you was , I hung up ,   So Since Pamela sold your pup's for you , You owed her a pup, that she could use to round out her line , Sorry was Dianne that said that not you Judy ,  But you both owed her pup's .......Wondering is that the reason why your attacking her , Didn't want to give her what you both owed, Wondering now who is really in for the money.  It's late I have to hit the sack , I'm not done , I will be back. I do expect you ladies to attack me , Go ahead , I'm ready                                               

Amen!!!   Thats Pamela for ya!!!  Didnt I say that she was vindictive?

Well eventually one must pay the piper for what they do.  Its time for Pamela to stop calling everyone a liar, its time for her to stop boasting about being a breeder of merit until she learns how to start acting like one.

I too believed that Pamela should rest after her surgeries hence I took care of her dogs for over 14 months. I listened to her daily when she was in the hospital and/or care facility.  I sent her flowers/cards and spoke to her several times of the day and night when she needed a friend.  For this I received nothing but false accusations.   She did nothing but accuse me of things that I did not do and then report her dogs stolen, even though I paid for them to be shipped down to me to keep them safe while she was hospitalized as she was out of money.  She states how she lives on a fixed income with all her dog sales she has a very good income from her website.

She has called other county agencies reporting the lack of care the dogs received while with me.  They left to go back to her directly from a vet clinic who took "pictures" of the abused dogs before they left.  They all put weight on from the way they arrived and were fat and sassy when they went back to her.  I believe she sold one of them almost immediately, yet she stated that they all suffered while in my care.  Thank God I had them there or God only knows what other lies she would have come up with.   

I believe that Pamela has changed drastically in the past two-three years and I know she needs to get help so that she stops harrassing her local agencies daily.  She needs to find a way to stop filing "false reports" as she's going to find out what happens to those who do this. They are all tired of dealing with rantings and ramblings as they say it's a daily occurance.  I was on the phone with her one day when she was attacking a local policeman who came to her door at her request.  I couldn't stand listening to the lack of respect and the language she was using to an officer of the law.  She states that the local PD has it out for her which is laughable.  They don't have time to "follow her around" I'm sure, however if they are called daily to deal with her they would be waiting for the next shoe to fall.  She had her license suspended because they were "picking on her" as well.   

She most definitely has produced dogs with major health issues the last year or two.  Jezz, Mouse, Zehn and his siblings are the one I'm speaking of.  I personally met the owner of one of them and his family is completely devastated at their loss. When you involve children in the loss of a "puppy" it's horrific only to say "that it was this or that causing his death". When you deal with major issues the first person you contact is the "breeder" only to be told that it's caused by this and/or that.  Really?  Why does she have a contract for her dogs then?  Apparently she is telling one side of the story to her "friends".  Just remember there are two sides to every story and vet reports DO NOT LIE.  She's great to deal with as long as everything goes the way she thinks it should and then there's a complete different side if you contact her with a problem. 

When she had a caretaker for her dogs while she was having surgery you should talk to that person to find out what they went thru dealing with her.  There was never the same person to take care of her dogs while she was hospitalized.  She had issues with each and every one of them including the people from her church.  How could that happen?  You should be grateful that anybody would come and care for your animals while you couldn't. 

Everybody else lies, but Pamela which is quite apparent from this report per her own ramblings.  Please not the "Author of the comments" as that says it all.  You stoop low enough to write letters and sign others names to them. 

You need to act like an adult instead of a child and face the issues you created and deal with them.  Refusing letters sent RRR to you is your latest actions.  Maybe you should accept your mail and find out what they contain instead of refusing them.  You may not like what the outcome will be, but you had the chance to receive the mail sent to you and a chance to make it right. 

Consequently the many that have been spoken about live in fear of Pamelas retailiation.  Shes vindictive they all say.  Like
I said many times over...shes real swell until theres a problem.
I would also like to add...I did not hold the liver shunt puppy against her, I did not blame her.  These things happen is what
I told her.  But what I didnt expect was her nasty, vicious response....and the horrible things that came out of her
mouth about me afterwards. 

Since you are so close to her I am sure you read the little story she made up and posted
on her web page about little Jezz.  I am told that it was posted for months.  Poor little Jezz...the university of Pa murdered her, and I was an uncaring owner.  I told her to remove that story, she responded back "I can put anything I want to put on my website" 

My initial response was to put as much space between her and I and just be done with it.  It was just too stressful, and I didnt want anymore problems from her.   All this woman had to do was stop the untrue talking about me.  And she couldnt.  Then, again Pamela pops up in my life...she called one girl a liar who was there when all this stuff did go down, who told me that pam sold the puppies I sent her!  Pamela insisted she still had them both.  Send photos please I said...no photos would she send.  Instead she tells me that one of them had a hernia.  No Pam, those pups were checked by two vets, and checked for hernas, add to that I also checked them...no hernias were found.  If thats the case...send the dog back then...I will replace it.  She told me that I lost my mind!!!

Okay so months pass by...and low and behold the girl who boughtthe puppy contacts me.  Pam tells her to never contact the breeder on that dog.  She tells her that she owns all my dogs.  She tells her how badly I do treat them.  Now if you want to know who has a penchant for lying....its Pamela herself.  It was all very simple to a breeder of ethics...one statement...I am so sorry, what do you want...a a replacement or a refund.   If you want to see how Pam responded back to me, I have those emails, if you want to see the degree of frustration and hell I went thru with her, simply ask Pamela for my email address.  I can also send the responses I got from those other many you would like to hear from.  I cannot post my email address in this forum, thats the rules. I have the vet report. 

I see my stress levels once again rising.  I dont like being called a liar, since I make it a point to not lie.  I am not saying that every dog she sells will be a problem...what I am saying is...if your one of the unlucky ones...she will drag you thru hell and you will get no refund. 

Okay...how about this one...you want proof of how ethical she is....just read thru her dog contracts.  She only guarantees a
puppy for three days.  Any ethical breeder knows that there are contagious diseases that incubate for up to ten days.  An
example is parvo...distemper...puppy seems fine enough thru incubation.  So according to her contract your just out
of luck if it comes down with parvo on the 4th day.  Her contracts only cover her...there is no coverage for the buyer,
over and over it states the buyer pays allll expenses.  Ship the puppy back to her,thats your cost...she takes it to her vet...you pay that too.  If she ever asked me to sign her contract <which she didnt> I would not have a katurah dog here.  I did not read her contract until after all these problems.  If I read it at the start, I would have had fore sight on just how ethical she really is. 

The next thing someone is going to try and tell me is that shes not vindictive.  Well ask the lady with Zehn about Pam sending the police and animal control to her house.  Zehn has been diagnosed with a liver shunt.  She kept Pams dogs for her for over a year, she asked Pam to take them back, she took the dogs to the vets and left them there for Pam to get.  <smart move on her part>

So Pam reports her for stealing her dogs.  Then...when she gets them...animal control she contacts next...they were in horrible condition she says, behavior problems..underweight...not according the what her vet says.  but then...whats Pams favorite response?

The vet is a liar. 

I have dealt personally with Pamela and she is nothing like you portray.  She has lived with me and we have cared for her and her dogs together.  You cannot be more wrong!  I suspect you are somehow related to the lady with the deceased puppy.  Her son perhaps? Pamela is too careful with her breeding selections for her to have produced puppies with cataracts, liver shunts etc.  As far as "many others" who have the same problems... have them all step forward!

I want to hear from them...not through you! I can't imagine the pain of losing a new pup that I have bonded with and had plans for. I feel very sorry for her! Too few individuals are making lots of noise on this cite and creating terrible trouble for Pamela at a time when she should be concentrating on her surgeries and recovering from them! By the way... Is this the same puppy that Pamela sent?  Just wondering!

I am not here to attest to the deals gone right, I am here to attest to the deals

gone wrong.  The first dog I purchased from Pamela is indeed wonderful, I love

him to death.  Thus the reason why I went back to Pamela for the second.

Expecting to get pretty much the same as the first.  The second dog was a

disappointment.  However, she told me that she had another one that I could

purchase that I would like much better.  And I did.  Much happier with the

second dog.  I placed the dog she sent me first into a very good home.  At

this point I was in good terms with Pamela. I accepted the loss of the dog

I placed, I told her to not even worry about it.  Though little Nina was not

breedable, she certainly did make for a wonderful pet.  Township laws here

state that I can only maintain 6 dogs.  I told Pamela at the start that I

was 65,  I wanted some quality paps to breed, to possibly even show

to keep me active and busy.  I told her that I wasnt even sure about the

showing, since I cant move around like I once could.  One or two litters

a year is all I cared to do, if even that.  I have five paps and one Aussie.



I recently found a way to become active in the dog shows, an old dog

show friend of mine is doing the showing.  I am not a part of the dog

show politics, I simply stay at home and Ellen calls me up and tells

me if the dog won...if the dog didnt.



Then the problems began.  Pam sent me a liver shunt puppy.  There

would be no problem today if the puppy was healthy you see.  But

it wasnt.  Add to that the way she dealt with our trade deal.  Having

ethics is hardly a factor when the deals go right.  Its when they dont

that ethics should be there.  A breeder of ethics guarantees health,

and makes good when there is a problem.  Pamelas ethics include

calling the vets a liar, and accuses you to have caused the

congenital problems.  Then she begins to spin her tales about

everyone is just telling lies, while she manufactures lies of her

own against anyone who has any of these issues with her.  Like

for instance, both I and the university of Pa murdered that puppy.

I have been told that shes telling everyone that I mistreat my

dogs horribly...when in fact unlike her dogs, my dogs  all

live the life of a house pet.  I dont have 25 dogs living

in cages like she does.  I  dont breed the girls back to back

like she does.  Pamela just proved what I am saying herself,

now spreading lies about someone she doesnt even know!

Whos the liar?  Pamela is. 

This letter was written 100% by Pamela herself as you can see it came from Katurah's Papillon's.  You most definitely need to stop writing letter for others and then have the nerve to sign their name to your rantings.  I most definitely "did not" write anything in the letter you dated "ebruary 28, 2012."

What are you doing?  You most definitely slandered me and posted that I recommend you. That's 100% not true and you know it.  My purchase of dogs from you has turned out to be the "Nightmare from Hell" as your daily drama drives everyone away.  You don't stand up to your own contract, your website states how honorable you are..That's not true as you read the letter your posted and your comments.  You need to treat others as you would like them to treat you and stop throwing the "God" card as he sees and knows what you have done putting us thru.  You believe the lie, then you become the lie.  You believe you're doing the right thing, but it's most definitely not the actions of a "Breeder of Merit".  AKC will be shocked to read what you have posted online.  You should have that title stripped from you for your actions.  I for one am ashamed of having the Katurah name on any dog after reading your rantings.  You did this to yourself, nobody else is responsible. 

You accuse all of us of doing things to you Pamela.  You reported your dogs stolen that I had cared for over 14 months to the local authorities.  They all saw thru your actions as you "shipped" the dogs to CA.  I did not "steal them from you". 

You released two young males to "Animal Control" because you didn't want to pay to ship them back to you.  Yes, that's just how a "Breeder of Merit" acts.  You sold Jezz, Mouse, Zehn and his siblings to unsuspecting buyers that get to watch them deal with "liver shunts".  Three of them are dead now and yet you still refuse to stop up to the plate and do the right thing. 

You seriously need to get some help and put all of your energy into getting your life back on track instead of trying to destroy others with your attacks. There are laws against what you have done on this page and you'll soon find out that the laws apply to you as well.  Shame on you for bringing others into your attacks.  Once again you need to "STOP and DESIST" your actions immediately. 

I have never met Casandra. And according to her shes never had anything to do with you.  Why do you even bring up her name? This report is about Katurah...Pamelas Katurah.  But this just proves my case...whos the liar?  Who tells lies about people? People you dont even know on top of it!!!  Whos the one out to harm their competition?  I give you permission to share my mailing address so I can share what proof  I have to back up my statements, since I cant share it here.  Surely
since you insist that I am lying you will gladly send them my way.  Anyone who doubts what I am saying..ask Pam for my address.  Ethical breeders do not act the way you do Pam..and thats a fact.

Sorry Vickie...I was just as surprised as you were that Pamela brought up your name.  I am making this clear right along
with you...this report is about Pamela and ONLY pamela. But thats just the way Pam works you see...she starts throwing up a smoke screen, lying about other people to so no one looks at what she has done.

I have never met you Vicki...and I am sure you have never had much to do with Pamela.  I have never even heard a bad word about you...my complaint is solely against Pamela and Katurah.  This is just an example of what Pamela does to everyone. Now...to people she doesnt even know!!!  I am sorry that she did drag you into this, really I am.

It was brought to my attention that my name and kennel name was brought up in this complaint and conversation completely without merit.  It INFURIATES me when people think it's OK to thrash other breeders or involve them in forums like this.

First of all, I have absolutely NOTHING and I mean NOTHING to do with any this complaint, any of these dogs, the sale of any of these dogs nor does this involve me, my dogs, or my status as a breeder in anyway. 

I have nothing to do with Pamela, her dogs, her placements, or her business practices. I don't even know Pamela personally and have only met her once briefly at a dog show 4 or 5 years ago and talked her less than 5 minutes if that....and I've talked to her a couple of times, the last time being a year ago on the phone. 

I take high offense when people such as Pamela, or anyone for that matter, start involving me in matters that do NOT concern or involve me in any way shape or form. I don't care if you like me or not, but don't be thrashing my name here or anywhere else or I will contact my attorney and address it immediately with any individual involved. This is complete nonsense to involve me in a matter that has absolutely NOTHING to do with me!!!! 

**** A warning....I am demanding that you all immediately CEASE AND DESIST using my name, kennel name, or any reference to me here on this complaint as I am in no way involved in this matter and do not know any of the people involved or the dogs. I am not a part of it on any level. I expect retractions made where I was even mentioned and if immediate retractions are not made I will seek damages against anyone slandering my name, my kennel name or my dogs. This is my first and only warning regarding this matter!!!!! 

Vickie Ehrlekrona
Crisanda Papillons

It was brought to my attention that my name and kennel name was brought up in this conversation and without merit it INFURIATES me when people think it's ok to thrash other breeders in forums like this. First of all, I have absolutely NOTHING and I mean NOTHING to do with any this complaint, any of these dogs, the sale of any of these dogs nor does this involve me, my dogs, or my status as a breeder in anyway. 

I have nothing to do with Pamela, her dogs, her placements, or her business practices. I don't even know Pamela personally and have only met her once briefly at a dog show 4 or 5 years ago and talked her less than 5 minutes if that....and I've talked to her a couple of times, the last time being a year ago on the phone. 

I take high offense when people such as Pamela, or anyone for that matter, start involving me in matters that do NOT concern or involve me in any way shape or form. I don't care if you like me or not, but don't be thrashing my name here or anywhere else or I will contact my attorney and address it immediately with any individual involved. This is complete nonsense to involve me in a matter that has absolutely NOTHING to do with me!!!! 

**** A warning....I am demanding that you all immediately CEASE AND DESIST using my name, kennel name, or any reference to me here on this complaint as I am in no way involved in this matter and do not know any of the people involved or the dogs. I am not a part of it on any level. I expect retractions made where I was even mentioned and if immediate retractions are not made I will seek damages against anyone slandering my name, my kennel name or my dogs. This is my first and only warning regarding this matter!!!!! 

Vickie Ehrlekrona
Crisanda Papillons

What does Crissandra have to do with any of this? 

Unless of course shes just another one on your bad list.  I have heard you spread lies against Monarch...against the Johnny Cash dog...talk about talking bad about other breeders!!! Oh Johnny Cash was sold to a puppy mill!  Well readers, check that one out...he was placed in a very good home!  Sorry, but I dont make it a habit of lying, my reputation is important to me, and it is for that very reason that I shall not let this go.  Reason number two...its my hope that buyers do beware. I would not wish what I went thru on anyone.  Glad I am for the lucky ones...feel deeply sorry for those unlucky.  As far as what you say about Monarch...and I know you have spread that one around alot...not true at all.  That woman did not raise fifteen fine kids mostly on her own and then leave dead goats for her dogs to sleep on.  Those claims are purely rediculous!!!

February 28, 2012 I was taking care of your dogs. How could I have reported a report to Ripoff about you?  You need to stop your actions immediately.  I have a young dog purchased as a breeding male from you diagnosed with a liver shunt.  You said the report sent to your vet was a "thyroid test" yet they said it's an acid bile test.  You need to replace Zehn immediately and do the correct thing.  You should think before you post your rude and untruthful comments for the public to read.  Slander is easy to prove after this. 

Your dogs?  Check the pedigrees...if anything they are Monarch dogs.  Not your lines like you like to boast. 7 generations and theres but one katurah dog on it. Which at this point I now harbor great fears over there being katurah in it.

And that picture that you are so fond of posting.  That is not your dog. One katurah dog in its pedigree does not make it yours.  And to think, once upon a time I was so kind to ADD your Kennel name to those that I bred and would be showing.  What did I say...Pamela, you might as well add those feathers to your hat, I cared nothing about the glory.  Well that little act of kindness got nipped in the bud after Jezz and our trade puppies deal.

The lucky ones cannot sit in judgement on this forum.  To call me a liar, all I can say is...birds of a feather flock together, sounds just like what Pamela would say and do.  Ask Pamela about "mouse", about "Zehn".  If you want to see the reports, Pamela has them.  Again...I too thought pamela was a good person. I fell into that trap.  I was shocked at the way she treated me.I was shocked to talk to many people afterwards who received the same treatment from her.   Even Hitler had many people who would talk good about him.  I shall endeavor to find a way to post the Vet reports I have on this forum...I would gladly add my email address but this site says you cant.  I would gladly welcome anyone who doubts me to contact me. If Pamela is such an innocent person, ask her for my email address. If I am such a liar I am sure she will give it to you, since I wouldnt be able to back up my claims according to her.  But I can you see.

Do I like doing this?  No.  Have I asked Pamela many times to stop telling her lies...Yes.  As I said in my original report, I decided to take the huge loss, walk away.  I am not talking peanuts here, one dog that was not breedable that I purchased from her, $2000 there.  I lost two nice puppies to her, one she sold and put $2500 in her pocket...and then there was Jezz...a huge vet bill and a dead puppy in just a month is what I got from her.  Plus months of pure aggrivation in trying to deal with her over that dog.

I have hundreds of emails from Pamela, I have the vet reports, ask Pamela if she will send you my way.

You have lies about each breeder and Crissand Papillons who has never cared about any breeder and who has lied about every breeder and puppies solder that she destroyed.  She hate all breedersto make herself the best.  Here friend Judy is on board.

Where are you with your report and trying to lie with each agency to speach about.  Boy Oh Boy!  What a lieing person you are to hurts some one hwo didn't deaserve any ot of this.  Hopefulwy GOD will handle the rights from wrong and strike those dead with eivil!

PRODUCE YOUR OF LIES!   YOU WOULD DO ANYTHING TO LIE!

ebruary 28, 2012 

TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN: 

In the short years I have been involved with the Papillon breed I have always admired and watched Pamela Schweikert dogs. Her dedication to wanting to raise the very best Papillons is to be commended. 

The quality of her dogs has gone thru the roof from what Ive seen. She strives to breed and best and promote AKC dogs. 

I find her a book of knowledge of the breed always willing to answer any questions with a prompt directness. Her caring and love of the breed is very evident. 

Her breeding program is very selective and the results are outstanding. I highly recommend as Pamela as an AKC breeder of Papillons.  

And I have attacked many breeders and have called them the witch pack (Judy Robinson) I only befriend those who I think I can run over and Dianne Robinson my accomplice has enjoyed lying about this breeder/others and we both have enjoyed lying about this breeder and others.  Especially, calling in an emailing lies to the authorities; we know we won't get caught; we do this all the time and no one will do anything to us.  We forge, lie, copy, go to dogs, IRS~including turning in my own boss who I say deserves it.

Judy Robinson 
Whitney Warren Ranch

Your just lucky to be one who has had no health issues.  Not everyone is that lucky.  That is my point.  You yourself has said...breeders are not Gods.  And I myself will even agree to that.  However, a breeder of merit does handle these situations with some ethics.  A person buying a dog certainly does not expect to be called a liar, does not expect to be given the run around, and certainly does not expect a journey thru great frustration that simply ends them up on the losing end, the only thing you get in return is Pamela running around saying horrible things about you.

I too trusted Pamela.  Trusted her enough to send her two of my pups, trusted her enough to send the papers with them.  She paid nothing for those puppies.  She also seems fine with not paying anything for them.  She wanted them to 'round out her breeding program".  Then turns around and sells one, tells me that she has them both.  Tells the buyer of the one puppy to never try and contact me. So right there even Pam herself knew she was not being 'ethical'.  Would you like to send me a couple of your puppies and watch me turn around and sell them while you get nothing for them?  Would you still call that being fair and honest? 

When someone boasts about being a breeder of ethics, one should expect ethics.  Being responsible when things go wrong, being responsible in all transactions, that is a breeder of ethics.  Its not the sales that go right that has any business calling my report false...for you have yet to walk in my shoes.  But if you do have the same opportunity that I have had...then you shall remember this report!

I personaly have herd from dozens of people who have had the same horrible Out come when working with pamela S. Everything starts out great and all rosey. And as soon as you have qiestions she turns on you. Or starts telling lies on yhe internet. About you, you're dogs and you're life.

Many dogs have had death sentances due to the breeding practices dogs get old there sperm and eggs get old you need to stop at some point, give the girls a break not every 3or 4th consecitive breeding. i've had allot of others tell me of health issues.

I have contacted many of these genetic research facilities she claims to be apart of, They have no clue who she is..

She also tells everyone that puppy os my best, a specialty winner, I should be keeping this one. Im giving you a great deal, i could get .... I dont need to move it, ill keep it here..ill show it and get 3x my price. But there is always something. As well as selling hundrefs of puppies this way she insists that even after sale They are still hers. Like several of these pictures they belong to other peoole, one that I know forsure she didnt even breed. Not from (her) lines, and claiming it is.

take a good long hard look at these dogs you have seen, ive also visited before my purchase, she had an excuse for everything, The mud, My surgery, this person, that person. Enough with the excuses, the lies and spreading of lies about everyone you have or currentley know. Stand up and do what you say, all talk. ITS ALL ABOUT MONEY.

Anyone reading this look out she will turn on you eventually. Start opening youre eyes. Shes already spreading lies and talking badley about you To who ever will listen. Too puff her self up.

I know the dog they are talking about, and she had thousands in vets bills and specialty vets,trying to save this pup pamela fought with the vets,and everyone calling them liers, refused to replace,or help in any way.put the owner through hell, and lied about the genetics.

She talks big and yes some of her dogs hsve had sucess when you breed a hundred pups a year you can get lucky.

People are having DNA results come back as false.

Good luck I hope for your sake you're not next..

I, too, have purchased a Katurah Papillon.  I can personally attest to the fact that the statements made here are not a true report of Katurah Papillons in general or of its owner, Pamela.

I purchased my Papillon from Katurah nearly two years ago, after knowing Pamela for at least two years prior to that.  I have personally visited her home on multiple occasions (not all scheduled visits).  I met her at a dog show, and saw her several times at others after that and saw how her dogs travelled with her.  With the exception of some puppies who had taken advantage of recent rains and had wrestled in the mud, all the dogs on the road with her were clean and well cared for--even the ones not being shown.

At her home, her dogs are also well taken care of.  They are all healthy and happy.  They have ample opportunity to play outside, as well as have cuddle time.  They are not neglected or abused in ANY way.  When she does have a litter at the house, the momma dog sleeps in a basket right next to her in her bedroom so she can immediately be alerted if anything is wrong.  They are fed top of the line dog food, supplemented with fresh meals made by her for them (such as eggs, rice, and other natural foods that dogs love and thrive on).

Like all responsible breeders, Katurah does all the recommended health testing and pedigree research on dogs before they are bred.  Puppies and any adult dogs going to new homes are thoroughly examined by a veterinarian and given clean bills of health, or they don't leave. 

Is it possible that she has produced "unhealthy" dogs?  Of course!  Breeders are not God!  They cannot perfectly control genes and DNA to produce the perfect dog, no matter how much they want to, no matter how much they try to control every little thing.

However, Katurah has a remarkable record of producing top winning dogs in agility, obedience, and conformation.  This would NOT be possible if the dogs were unhealthy or poorly bred!

My dog has won, and will continue to win, in the conformation ring (still working on his CH, but he will get it!).  He has started training in obedience, at which he excels.  I have no doubt he will excel at agility when my current dog retires and he takes her place.  In addition, he has one leg of his CAT (Coursing Ability Title) from the AKC.  He would not be able to do any of these things if he wasn't well bred!

Also, my experience with Katurah dogs extends beyond my own dog and the ones I have met with Pamela.  I have seen Katurah dogs at many agility trials, where they do a LOT of winning.  I have also seen them at conformation shows.  I admired them long before I knew where they were from or who bred them, as they seemed to win a lot and I researched the breed for years before purchasing one myself.

Lastly, knowing Pamela as I do, I KNOW she would not knowingly hurt anyone or sell them an unhealthy dog or, as this website suggests, rip anyone off.  She has helped many in the breed, including myself.  I personally watched as she sold a puppy to a little girl who desperately wanted one, for much less than the puppy was actually worth, because she could see how much that little girl wanted one and had worked and saved to get, and the care that the girl took with the puppies. 

She has taken much time to show me how to do the "fine points" of grooming so I can best present my dog in the ring.  She took extra time to help a lady, who unexpectedly lost her Papillon to a sudden illness, find the right dog for her for agility and conformation, EVEN THOUGH that puppy was her own favorite.  She takes extra care to make sure that the person who wants to purchase a dog or puppy from her gets what they are looking for, whether that is a conformation dog, a kick-butt agility dog, or a loving companion to hang out and watch TV.

Overall, Pamela is most definitely a Breeder of Merit.  She has earned that title.  And she exemplifies what it implies.

Recently published libelous statements raise the question, why is this same person/persons still breeding Katurah dogs that I produced?  Why don't you both sign your names?