Kim Logan This man hired our co. to do work for him, gained our trust, added work and then refused to pay for it Longmont Colorado
Mr. Kim Logan asked our Co. to give him an Estimate for drywall work. The estimate was for $3,500.00. He asked for an Estimate also for paint and our estimate was for $400.00, he asked for estimates sighting things might change. Nearing the end of the drywall job which with all the time added up was already at the estimated amount of $3,500.00 and about to go over closer to $4,000.00 about $500.00 more, after gaining our trust he asked for some additional work to be perfomed, Carpentry work and also buffaloed us into starting a whole new invoice for the carpentry work and closeing out the Invoice for drywall.
By this time trusting him the estimate for the custom carpentry work he added was "possibly over $2,000.00" he agreed to this and then when the work was done he refused to pay, he threw a check for the balance on the drywall job and and a document he had printed out of his computer in my husbands face and started calling him a bunch of Bleep Bleep words and acting very volatile and threatening and we ended up in small claims against him wherby he made up a false invoice and filed a false counterclaim sighting we owed him money and the case was ordered into mediation.
Because we did not have it in writting that he had agreed to the extra work, this ordeal ended up costing us more money than it would have been worth to have just cut our losses and stayed as far away from this guy as possible. This man also accused my husband of committing FORGERY for writting the words in different penmanship mind you above the notaion in the memo box that Mr. Logan had written paid in full. The words my husband wrote were for drywall only. This man harrassed us threw Emails and was just a potty mouthed con artist who took us big time for being trusting.
Sandie
Longmont, Colorado
U.S.A.
2 Updates & Rebuttals
Sandie
Longmont,Colorado,
U.S.A.
Dear Jenny from Florrisant
#3Author of original report
Thu, January 17, 2008
The court ruling was to go to mediation and pay a mediator more money to try and settle this with the homeowner. The outcome was we ended up an extra $500.00 in the hole because we had to go with the mediator chosen by the defendant in order not to look uncooperative and he was $200.00 per hour. Court ordered mediation is new, manditory and unexpected and I am just miffed by the whole event.
I did write to the judege in our case and he said he was the only judge out of all the judges who voted to make mediation manditory to vote NO. He was sorry for what we went through but that was the breaks. Conclusion, don't get ripped off in Boulder County because they just don't care if people steal from you. In essence Mr. Logan bennefitted from the work and has the materials in his home for his enjoyment and we are basically out of luck.
Thanks for caring and I am just not sure it is worth it to spend one more dime on this because we are so in the red on this as it is. Keep on helping people with this issue because Courts don't care. Sandie
Jenny
Florissant,Colorado,
U.S.A.
Homeowner's are rip off's too!
#3Consumer Suggestion
Thu, January 17, 2008
Sounds like you have been run through the mill with this homeowner. They can do that to contractors. It always seems the owner's are noticed first when they get ripped off but when the subs and contractors are get ripped off, ohh they must have done lousy work etc. It is just as bad for the good contractors as owners. I spend many hours helping owner's who have been ripped off by bad builders and not as nearly as many helping the contractors, simply because the owner's whip thier butts and the contractor's would rather walk away than defend thier rights and dignity.
Have you filed a lien on this jerk? What was the ruling made by the court? Do you have copies of everything signed that you really did sign? Did you have any contracts? Do you still have the old forms you use to use before he talked you into changing them? Some courts will agree that if work is done with or with out a change order that it was accepted even if nothing was in writting because why else would you have done the extra work? Were permits pulled for any of the work?
The mediation you were ordered to partake in, is it through the American Arbitration Association? Most mediation is not binding, meaning that even after a ruling is made, the owner or contractor can still come back and make demands. Make sure you have a binding arbitration ruling, signed by the courts. Are or did you represent yourself?
If you can answer these questions, I may be able to help you get paid. I am a construction service investigator from Florissant, Colorado and hate to see you go through this.