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  • Report:  #394871

Complaint Review: Kis Golf

Kis Golf attention Kis golf investors (ponzi scheme) Usa Nationwide

  • Reported By:
    concord North Carolina
  • Submitted:
    Tue, November 25, 2008
  • Updated:
    Sun, November 30, 2008
  • Kis Golf
    Every Kis Location
    Nationwide
    U.S.A.
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A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investment operation that involves promising or paying abnormally high returns ("profits") to investors out of the money paid in by subsequent investors, rather than from net revenues generated by any real business. It is named after Charles Ponzi.[1] A Ponzi scheme has similarities with a pyramid scheme though the two types of fraud are different

A Ponzi scheme usually offers abnormally high short-term returns in order to entice new investors. The high returns that a Ponzi scheme advertises (and pays) require an ever-increasing flow of money from investors in order to keep the scheme going.

The system is doomed to collapse because there are little or no underlying earnings from the money received by the promoter. However, the scheme is often interrupted by legal authorities before it collapses, because a Ponzi scheme is suspected and/or because the promoter is selling unregistered securities. As more investors become involved, the likelihood of the scheme coming to the attention of authorities increases.

The scheme is named after Charles Ponzi, who became notorious for using the technique after emigrating from Italy to the United States in 1903. Ponzi was not the first to invent such a scheme, but his operation took in so much money that it was the first to become known throughout the United States. Ponzi's original scheme was in theory based on arbitraging international reply coupons for postage stamps, but soon diverted later investors' money to support payments to earlier investors and Ponzi's personal wealth. Today's schemes are often considerably more sophisticated than Ponzi's, although the underlying formula is quite similar and the principle behind every Ponzi scheme is to exploit investor navet.

An advertisement is placed promising extraordinary returns on an investment for example 20% for a 30 day contract. The precise mechanism for this incredible return can be attributed to anything that sounds good but is not specific: "global currency arbitrage", "hedge futures trading", "high-yield investment programs", "Offshore investment", or something similar.

With no proven track record for the investors, only a few investors are tempted, usually for smaller sums. Sure enough, 30 days later the investor receives the original capital plus the 20% return. At this point, the investor will have more incentive to put in additional money and, as word begins to spread, other investors grab the "opportunity" to participate. More and more people invest, and see their investments return the promised large returns.

The reality of the scheme is that the "return" to the initial investors is being paid out of the new, incoming investment money, not out of profits. No "global currency arbitrage", "hedge futures trading" or "high yield investment program" is actually taking place. Instead, when investor D puts in money, that money becomes available to pay out "profits" to investors A, B, and C. When investors X, Y, and Z put in money, that money is available to pay "profits" to investors A through W.

One reason that the scheme initially works so well is that early investors those who actually got paid the large returns quite commonly reinvest (keep) their money in the scheme (it does, after all, pay out much better than any alternative investment). Thus those running the scheme do not actually have to pay out very much (net) they simply have to send statements to investors that show how much the investors have earned by keeping the money in what looks like a great place to get a high return. They also try to minimize withdrawals by offering new plans to investors, often where money is frozen for a longer period of time, for example 50% return per month for one year. They then get new cash flows as investors are told they could not transfer money from the first plan to the second.

The catch is that at some point one of three things will happen:

the promoters will vanish, taking all the investment money (less payouts) with them;
the scheme will collapse of its own weight, as investment slows and the promoters start having problems paying out the promised returns (and when they start having problems, the word spreads and more people start asking for their money, similar to a bank run);
the scheme is exposed, because when legal authorities begin examining accounting records of the so-called enterprise they find that many of the "assets" that should exist do not.

Ex kis employee
concord, North Carolina
U.S.A.

5 Updates & Rebuttals


Kis Is Falling Apart

Nashville,
Tennessee,
U.S.A.

KiS bankruptcy

#6UPDATE EX-employee responds

Sun, November 30, 2008

This is how much money KIS made from 1-1-08 to 10-31-08. Looks like plenty of money to me, where did it go? checks were bouncing weeks before 10-31-08. How could a company make this much money and now owe so much money? Some stores did not operate until later in the year. What can account for all this money spent? It was not spent on repairs or maintenace or upkeep, not even membership. It unfortuniately wasnt even spent on payroll. How is this legal?
SHOCKING, but Kis execs say economy to blame, doesnt look like it, also $200,000 being held up by GE, nonsense. Look at the money you made. It was an easy way out to blame economy. I worked for a store that made over 1.5 million dollars an yet they owe me three weeks pay.

Source: www.Kisgolf.com Username: cc601 Password: cruzin601

cc501 $618,214.00
cc601 $1,579,730.50
cc701 $153,830.00
cc702 $964,600.40
cc703 $561,484.50
cc704 $1,414,026.00
cc705 $685,775.50
cc801 $1,629,082.20
cc802 $309,354.00
cc803 $1,544,004.50
cc804 $447,945.00


Kis Is Falling Apart

Nashville,
Tennessee,
U.S.A.

KiS bankruptcy

#6UPDATE EX-employee responds

Sun, November 30, 2008

This is how much money KIS made from 1-1-08 to 10-31-08. Looks like plenty of money to me, where did it go? checks were bouncing weeks before 10-31-08. How could a company make this much money and now owe so much money? Some stores did not operate until later in the year. What can account for all this money spent? It was not spent on repairs or maintenace or upkeep, not even membership. It unfortuniately wasnt even spent on payroll. How is this legal?
SHOCKING, but Kis execs say economy to blame, doesnt look like it, also $200,000 being held up by GE, nonsense. Look at the money you made. It was an easy way out to blame economy. I worked for a store that made over 1.5 million dollars an yet they owe me three weeks pay.

Source: www.Kisgolf.com Username: cc601 Password: cruzin601

cc501 $618,214.00
cc601 $1,579,730.50
cc701 $153,830.00
cc702 $964,600.40
cc703 $561,484.50
cc704 $1,414,026.00
cc705 $685,775.50
cc801 $1,629,082.20
cc802 $309,354.00
cc803 $1,544,004.50
cc804 $447,945.00


Kis Is Falling Apart

Nashville,
Tennessee,
U.S.A.

KiS bankruptcy

#6UPDATE EX-employee responds

Sun, November 30, 2008

This is how much money KIS made from 1-1-08 to 10-31-08. Looks like plenty of money to me, where did it go? checks were bouncing weeks before 10-31-08. How could a company make this much money and now owe so much money? Some stores did not operate until later in the year. What can account for all this money spent? It was not spent on repairs or maintenace or upkeep, not even membership. It unfortuniately wasnt even spent on payroll. How is this legal?
SHOCKING, but Kis execs say economy to blame, doesnt look like it, also $200,000 being held up by GE, nonsense. Look at the money you made. It was an easy way out to blame economy. I worked for a store that made over 1.5 million dollars an yet they owe me three weeks pay.

Source: www.Kisgolf.com Username: cc601 Password: cruzin601

cc501 $618,214.00
cc601 $1,579,730.50
cc701 $153,830.00
cc702 $964,600.40
cc703 $561,484.50
cc704 $1,414,026.00
cc705 $685,775.50
cc801 $1,629,082.20
cc802 $309,354.00
cc803 $1,544,004.50
cc804 $447,945.00


Kis Is Falling Apart

Nashville,
Tennessee,
U.S.A.

KiS bankruptcy

#6UPDATE EX-employee responds

Sun, November 30, 2008

This is how much money KIS made from 1-1-08 to 10-31-08. Looks like plenty of money to me, where did it go? checks were bouncing weeks before 10-31-08. How could a company make this much money and now owe so much money? Some stores did not operate until later in the year. What can account for all this money spent? It was not spent on repairs or maintenace or upkeep, not even membership. It unfortuniately wasnt even spent on payroll. How is this legal?
SHOCKING, but Kis execs say economy to blame, doesnt look like it, also $200,000 being held up by GE, nonsense. Look at the money you made. It was an easy way out to blame economy. I worked for a store that made over 1.5 million dollars an yet they owe me three weeks pay.

Source: www.Kisgolf.com Username: cc601 Password: cruzin601

cc501 $618,214.00
cc601 $1,579,730.50
cc701 $153,830.00
cc702 $964,600.40
cc703 $561,484.50
cc704 $1,414,026.00
cc705 $685,775.50
cc801 $1,629,082.20
cc802 $309,354.00
cc803 $1,544,004.50
cc804 $447,945.00


Tinam

Kennesaw,
Georgia,
U.S.A.

What can investors do to save themselves?

#6Consumer Comment

Thu, November 27, 2008

Will investors ever be able to see some of their money back?

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