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Landmark Ragdolls and cattery Cindy jones Bait and switch breeder. She said "it's time to make money off of them" Cumming Georgia
I emailed cindy jones and texted her January 4th wanting a new baby for our family. I explained how we had just lost our ragdoll and had a huge hole in my heart. Although paying for a kitty wasn't exactly what we wanted to do after rescuing kitties for over 10 years but really wanted I fill the void. We had a great phone conversation and several texts throughout the day saying she would send pics and sex them in a few days. We agreed on 800 for a sepia chocolate mink kitten through text. After her teaching me what that was lol. We also agreed that if anyone was interested in one I would run up there (I live 20 minutes away) and pick one out and give her a deposit. They were too young to be held at that time. She sent random weird texts throughout the day too. Such as pics of her driveway, her feeding her horse, and complaints about other breeders. I just ignored those.
On January 13th, I sent a text reminding her to let me have first pick and asking when I could come see them And that I was excited. I knew she was busy so overlooked that she didn't communicate before yesterday. She responded later about 11pm that she was putting up the pics and that she wanted 900 for them. I was dumbfounded. I thought she mistyped. She said "it's time I make a profit of them" in a text. Again, I was shocked. Keep in mind I worked extra hours and sold lots of products as a side job to make extra money for this baby. On top of being emotionally excited about getting a new baby. I asked her to honor our written agreed upon price and to let me know her intentions ASAP so we wouldn't have to drag out the emotional stress. She did not respond. Of course, I cried a lot that night. I asked her again if she was going to honor the price and I was happy to give her a chance to fix the situation. She later that afternoon accused me of threatening to take all her cats away, which I assumed she was thinking I was the wrong person. She also asked for my by info and I was happy to give it as I have spent lots on my babies. I never heard back after several texts messages. I called her about 8pm and she acted like an intoxicated person saying random comments and again saying how she needs to make more profit on her kitties. I simply asked her to say yes or no and to quit dragging out the stress. She called me crazy and other slanderead names as well as degrading me and saying I don't have a real job. Whih I actually have 3. I was working the 3rd, selling tupperware to pay for my kitty. She did hang up on me twice. The first I assumed on her bahalf it was accidental. But nope, she's just that rude. I couldn't finish sentences either. She was and is very unprofessional.
I believe this lady pulls people in and does the switch and bait and causes emotional stress on others. Especially since she kept thinking I was other people. Which was even weirder. You would think for that amount of money, one would keep up with the buyer!
I am attaching the texts messages. So you know I'm not exaggerating. I admit I was persistent, but really didn't want to keep dragging out the emotional drama and wanted an answer.
Texts messages; m is me and c is Cindy.
m; I know it's Sunday morning. Just need to know if you still have the solid chocolate Ragdolls and sexes. Mine passed away 2 months ago and my heart is still very heavy. So hope of getting another one would be great. Even if not now but soon. I emailed you too. Thank you and I hope you're having a great day.
Perfect. I love the darker points ; ). And yes I shed a year. I miss my babies so much. Can't wait to have new babies to enjoy.
K. Look forward to seeing pics tomorrow. Thank u.
Mink coloring is what I want ; )
c; ragdolls r al minks one is traditionl.
You want dark like fsther or color of kitten i sent
What about Jewell's babies.
M; We can talk tomorrow. I know your busy ; ). Sorry. Just excited.
Not liking lynx look. Can I be on waiting list for future Siberian? And still get discount off second? I kinda wanted one now and one later anyway. And I can come another weekend. Just want first pick of those 4 from shadow. But I'd like to see what jewels look like too
C; Sure i am firm on 800.00 deposit is 200 and 600at pickup.
M; When do we need to look at them for first pick and give u 200? I'd like to see them before giving you money but once we know, I'll pay it in cash.
I sell tupperware and sold 100 already today ; ). That's my baby fund for the new kitty.
c; Of course seeu nextwekend.
M; Can we see Jewell's next weekend too?
C; New born xmas young no.
M; Ok. When can we see both litters at same time. We can plan that weekend. She had chocolates too right?
C; Thats couple weekd out. Thats fine
M; Ok. Please don't forget me. Let me know. I want first pick. Can we plan January 24. Saturday afternoon.
Well. It is what it is but I'd appreciate if you'd let me know first and I can come that day just not with hubby to pick so other person gets 2nd pick.
Not sure what I said but I know ur busy. Just let me know if someone is looking at a chocolate and I'll make a special trip to pick my first and give 200. Just want to see both litters first.
m; January 13th morning. I'm excited about my kitten. ; ). Please remember To let me know if anyone else is about to put a deposit down and I'll rush up there to look at 2 litters and so first pick and deposit so they can do second pick. Thank u!
Hey. When was it you said I could come see the 2 litters at same time. So I can pick a baby and give you a deposit.
c; I cannot show newborns except sell on internet. i can show u shadow kits without handling them much. they have no shots. i am trying to post kittens on website. my traditionals r 800. these r chocolates. and sepias mink to mink r higher. 900. i have a huge jump in expenses.
can you comr over sunday? i would be glad tk show you 3 sepis and one traditiona of shadow kits that r posted except for one.
posting jewell kits on website
M; Ok. I'll look on website. You were giving me 100 of minks and told me 800.
Those are two if like to see and choose from. When can I go to see both? This Sunday is too early I think.
C; well keep in mind i get internet sales. i am paying dearly for advertising.
M; Right. But you're going to call me that day and I'll come pick and leave deposit right?
c; I am selling everyday. when your ready to place a deposit come out. i have alot on my plate.
M; Maybe this is a sign I should wait. Kinda bummed. I was suppose to get first pick. But you beer sent the pictures or sexes. I assumed you would let me know if someone was I wrested and I was going to get first pick as you told me I would. : (
Beer is never. I understand you're busy. But I was trying I not bother you and assumed you would let me know so I didn't bombarded you every day. I wanted to
At this point I like Godiva better. I think semisweet has white feet right? So Godiva would be it. I just thought there were others before?
And you told me 800 for them. I can copy the text from a week ago.
c; I have been selling mittens with no profit for 10 yrs. time to make this work or quit. i have to cover exoenses 900 is nothing for the quality of these kittens.
M; Ummmmm. Ok. Not what you said. Hold on and I will find text and copy and paste.
C; listen i get up 5 am tomorrow. let me know when you can come and buy. talk later
M; Is this all about money with you? I'm getting a really bad feeling right now.
Here's your yet about shadows kittens. "Sure i am firm on 800.00 deposit is 200 and 600at pickup."
You wrote that. Not me.
Let me know if you're not going to honor what you told me so I can move on and not worry about a baby from you anymore.
I don't want to stress all night about this. So at least let me know if you're going to honor the 800 you told me for shadows kitten or not please.
If you are, I'll be there Sunday for a quick peak and give you deposit.
This might not be a good review, I'm hoping it works out. But you've got me super freaked out now. I've been working extra hard to make money and sell off tupperware to get a new baby and now I might not because you decided to change the price after texting me a lower price. Not cool! Really not cool. And then to leave me upset stressed all night because you are too tired ideal with drama you causes. So wrong. I really thought you were better ham his when I spoke to you over a week ago.
I am outraged and really want to write a bad post but I'm trying to be rational. I would never treat someone like this. It's aweful.
M; January 14th. As I thought, I've been up all night. I have had my hopes up for this baby and I an emotional as I see them as my children. Please let me know ASAP your intentions. Thank you.
What. I never said Id remove cats. That's weird.
All my info was sent by email a week ago. You need to reconsider how you talk to people. I'll call you in minute. You truly have me confused with someone else apparently. Not once did I say id take your cats from you. I just wanted to "buy" a kitten.
I'm haven't written a review yet because I know I'm emotional and I'm hoping you do the right thing and wit dragging it out. You can call me when your off work.
I'm the person whose chocolate ragdoll died with liver issues. You obviously don't remember me. Which bothers me. We talked for a long time. I was suppose I have first pick. That's what you told me. But I believe in second chances. So depending on how long you drag this drama out and if you do honor your price and apologize, I will certainly get over it. I just want a baby to fill my hole in my heart.
I've been working extra and selling stuff off fb to earn the money for this baby. So that adds to my stress too. Most people don't have that money laying around. I don't have animals that make money for me as you said before.
Please feel free to call my vet. I've spent thousands on my babies there. I took rescues to acres mill in cantn but haven't had any in over a year. But I spent over a thousand on a sick rescue just a couple years ago. Which was adopted out for 95 dollars. I lose money in babies. Not make Money. To me they are children.
Those are the two vets. But I also had a dog lose an eye and went to Georgia veterinary specialist if you want to call them too. I use emergeny credit card for their care. But I will always take care of them.
2 Updates & Rebuttals
Complete truth in my complaint
#3Author of original report
Tue, June 23, 2015
This Cindy jones lady is delusional. I do own a rescue. But I believe in supporting honest, true, real quality breeders too. Granted I'm the last to try and buy a kitten, but wanted a chocolate ragdoll badly. She did a bait n switch and as you can see in the first post, I called her at 12:53 am because she literally texted me 3 minutes prior. Lol. I was the president of a 501c3 dog park and not sure why that was thrown on there. But yay me. Thanks for adding to my credibility cindy
Katniss
Georgia,Beware all Breeders! Do not sell to this person
#3REBUTTAL Owner of company
Fri, January 16, 2015
I would not sell her ( full name unknown ) one of my ragdolls because after several discussions, I believe that she is not able to take care of a kitten. This is not meant to be a battle just a lesson learned.
I can sell my kittens to whomever I please. I am a responsible person and I always find a good fit for my kittens. She is not a good fit for my kittens.
I do not have to sell to anyone. I dictate prices determined after evaluation. I can change my mind. My prices have a range they are not specifically set. Its all according to the quality and pattern of the kitten. Kittens change. I have extremely beautiful and affectionate and healthy kittens. All my kittens are vet checked by county vet and all the shots are given before released. In addition I have never been closed down! She has no authority. This is one of her threats. Many threats that she didnt type on her complaint.
After much thought I believe I was a targeted by a rescue group. This persons telephone number is all over the internet
listed as several rescues and a pet sitting business on Angies List.
I am so glad she did not get into my home because for the protection of the kittens. I am glad I had the good faith not to sell to someone like her. This was a set up and breeders beware. It is pretty bad that i get a bad review and didnt even sell her a cat! She didnt even look at them. She did harrass me for days and days. L O L She called me at 12:53 p.m. on a work night again and again and again! I hung up on her and she called back. I told her she was aggresive and she agreed that she was. After all this harassment does she think i am going to sell her a kitten? Not likely. More likely i will be filing a police report. All the information contained in her complaint is false.
The danger internet selling.
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www.angieslist.com