Complaint Review: Laura Burns - Tiny Imperial Shih Tzus

Laura hopefully when you get your nursing degree they will put you on the pysch ward, and you can work with people that are just like you. LOL Maybe then you can learn something. You are a NUT CASE

Elonda...give it up... Move on to your next victim..

I am not playing your games any longer. If you don't stop harassing me, I will forced to pursue..

You have been paid in full. You have no grounds to continue harassing me. You have no grounds to continue threatening me.

What is this.. You want me to take pictures of my home to send you now.. OMG.. My home is full of children and pets.. Who cares.. You want pictures of my home for what Elonda.. Are you really that interested and concerned about me and my home.

When are you going to stop. I don't care what your house looks like. I don't care about your dogs. I don't care about your breeder friends. I don't care whom you buy dogs from. My life is busy and full of things to do. I have much more important things then to play games with you. Grow up.. You are the one who keeps this going and going.. You never stop.

If you have a problem with your own home, then deal with it. If you have problems with your dogs then deal with them.. I don't need to know. Nor do I care about your problems.

You know nothing about me. You don't know who I am. Or what kind of person I am. So drop the harassment.

Practice what you preach. Try to be honest and fair with others, Elonda and move on..... Go harass someone else, now... Follow what you preach and move on..

Hey Laura I would just like to propose a challenge to you. Since you THINK my house is sooooooo bad. You have my email address, send me pics of your house and the way your dogs are kept on daily basis, and I will for sure send you pics of mine, I have absolutely NOTHING to hide. And for your info, the dogs I have on my site are all the dogs I have, I do not hide a thing, and when buyers come here they see exactly what I have and where their babies live, and many have told me they cannot believe I even have dogs in my home.

If I receive nothing, I will know what you really are.

Laura you are right, DROP THIS, you have paid me back, so why keep this going???? The things you are pointing out now have NOTHING to do with the fact you either owed me a dog that I could breed, OR my money back, simple as that. I too have talked to MANY breeders who say they have heard things about you. Now I don't think you want to keep this up. Because if you do I will get you for harrassment because from this point on, since I have been paid, anything further is harrassment because from this point on I do not intend to keep this going because I will not stoop to your level of immaturity For the last time I will post to you and your childish behaviour. As I told you IF I do sell a puppy to ANYONE that is defective in any way, I WILL make it good and I WON"T take as long to do so as you have done. Now I think that speaks for my character and as far as what others post as I have told you before, my reputation with puppy buyers that have purchased my puppies, have been to my home and know how I keep my home (with ALL my dogs in here with me, mind you) all will speak for me and any one of them will tell you my dogs are kept immaculate and so is my home. I open my home to ALL my puppy buyers to see how their pups are raised. In fact someone you know just sold me a puppy, ask them if they feel bad where they placed their puppy or if they thought for one minute I was a bad person, would they have sold this special little guy to me????? Now GROW UP!!! and move on to your next victim. Thats what you all do that get upset when the whistle is blown on you, you want to bad mouth that person to others. Be honest and fair to others and you won't have problems, thats what I intend to do with my business.

Now for Michelle, I have no clue who you are, I think you have emailed me in the past, but I ignored most of your calls and emails, and all the ranting and raving you did on another breeder that was none of my business. I don't Know what you are up to, but for your info Yes I did buy a puppy from Danielle and am SUPER happy with her.

Hi Michelle,

I dropped you an email but didn't hear back from you. Hope you are out enjoying the beach. Hope the weather stays good thru the winter there. We have the great four seasons here and are in the fall. It is so pretty with the leaves changing.

You can ship a imperial Shih Tzu. It's best to wait until they are close to two pounds. I never ship a puppy smaller than that. I also get the shortest flight for them. The puppy Elonda purchased was not an imperial. She doesn't breed imperials or at least didn't at the time.

Michelle, just let this go. I am so happy to be done with this woman. I can't tell you the number of threaten, harassing, black mail calls and emails I have received over the past from her. One day in 8 hours, I had over 20 calls and 10 emails. There was no way to please this woman. I have worked with some many wonderful breeders and people but this lady takes the cake. MANY OTHER BREEDERS say the same and will not even sell to her. I have had to block all of her emails and not answer the phone. I found the best answer was to just delete the voice mails without even listening to the rantings and ravings. It is great to be done with her.

I took a minute and looked over this site and found Elonda has posted on MANY breeders here. So I guess this is her way of just getting even with people and cyber bullying. She lives for this kind of thing. It's so obvious in all her post.

But the greatest thing in life, there is this thing called karma. So knowing what I know, this will all come back to Elonda in time. No matter how careful you are, occasionally something happens. Elonda will end up with problems along the way. She has over 20 breeding adult dogs on her site not to mention dogs she isn't listing when added with puppies..wow.. That is a lot for one woman to take care of and keep in her home. Very difficult for one person to give all those dogs individual attention. Also, with that many breeding dogs you are bound to have problems along the way, some combination will produce problems. She is so new to breeding and has only had a few litters, but in time this will come back to her. It will be when she least expects it.

Michelle, I love breeding. I love the puppies and caring for them. I hope you enjoy your breeding program as much as we do. There is nothing better than placing the puppies in loving homes where they are cared for and loved. We have many repeat buyers and it's great to get those emails or calls when a puppy owner calls you and tells you how much they love their new baby. They touch base with you off and on, send you updated photos over the years. Every year, we get a Christmas card from one of our first puppies we sold over 12 years ago and her family. This summer, one of our puppies came to visit she is a therapy dog in a psychiatrist office. We have a couple that are therapy dogs at the nursing homes. We have one who is a world traveler and been in many books and calendars. It's so great to know we have placed puppies in these environments where they can offer their love to so many. I always pray that my dogs end up where they are need and loved the most. Where they can do the most good for their life. I think God answers that prayer in one way or another.

God bless Michelle.

hey this is michelle long time no post I was curious if Elonda Ever bought a puppy from Danoielle of Oxford Just curious Is it true also that elond did you charge for puppies to get money on your credit card. If anyone put a puppy through shipping just for money Its insane it could kill shih-tzu too small too fly for those of you who dont know and the way I heard it Through this wonderful breeder against breeder sight here says that you want too dwn sixe shih-tzu so you have a underweight under developed shih-tzu flying in air just too collect on a few dollars Please correct me if I am wrong and I will stand Corrected.

hey this is michelle long time no post I was curious if Elonda Ever bought a puppy from Danoielle of Oxford Just curious Is it true also that elond did you charge for puppies to get money on your credit card. If anyone put a puppy through shipping just for money Its insane it could kill shih-tzu too small too fly for those of you who dont know and the way I heard it Through this wonderful breeder against breeder sight here says that you want too dwn sixe shih-tzu so you have a underweight under developed shih-tzu flying in air just too collect on a few dollars Please correct me if I am wrong and I will stand Corrected.

hey this is michelle long time no post I was curious if Elonda Ever bought a puppy from Danoielle of Oxford Just curious Is it true also that elond did you charge for puppies to get money on your credit card. If anyone put a puppy through shipping just for money Its insane it could kill shih-tzu too small too fly for those of you who dont know and the way I heard it Through this wonderful breeder against breeder sight here says that you want too dwn sixe shih-tzu so you have a underweight under developed shih-tzu flying in air just too collect on a few dollars Please correct me if I am wrong and I will stand Corrected.

hey this is michelle long time no post I was curious if Elonda Ever bought a puppy from Danoielle of Oxford Just curious Is it true also that elond did you charge for puppies to get money on your credit card. If anyone put a puppy through shipping just for money Its insane it could kill shih-tzu too small too fly for those of you who dont know and the way I heard it Through this wonderful breeder against breeder sight here says that you want too dwn sixe shih-tzu so you have a underweight under developed shih-tzu flying in air just too collect on a few dollars Please correct me if I am wrong and I will stand Corrected.

It's paid in full Elonda..

Best wishes to you too.

Laura you can stop threatening me with a lawyer. I wish that everyone that cares to read this report could see the harrassing emails you CONTINUE to send me even after you have FINALLY paid me off. Remember I am not sending you harrassing emails to your personal email address. As far as people talking about me, I could care less, because NONE of them can say I have sold anyone a defective puppy and IF I ever did I would make it good and for sure not years later, like you have done with me and only then it was after I pushed the issue with you and told you I was taking you to small claims.

Laura you thrive on this kind of junk. People that have written these reports on me in the past are now selling puppies to me and we have made things right. The fact here is I never go to those reports anymore as I do not care to read what has been written there, because it has NOTHING to do with ripping anyone off from hard earned money, which is what this report is intended for. You on the other hand, are constantly on here worrying about what people are writing about you, is it that you DO have something to worry about and maybe have ripped off more people than me????

Now for the last time as I said in my "last" response, we are finished with our deal, forget the 3% that I had to remind you about other times as well, before you finally sent it. I am just happy to be done with you.

Best wishes to you

Laura you said at first you overpaid me by a large amount when you sent the $100 or at least that is what you said in your email to me, Now you say its only $7.00. Truth is you owed me $300 last month when you only sent $200 and if you REALLY wanted to get this over with and not be petty you would have sent the full $300. You know paypal charges EVERYONE 3.5% to use thier services, that has always been that and you know it because you ALSO run a business and use them frequently. Don't bother with the fee, I am just so glad to be done with you. You are really a royal pain in the rear, I hope everyone gets to know you really well before doing business with you.

I did a quick run down over my payment history with Elonda and the 3% fee Elonda quoted. If this percentage is correct, then, Elonda has actually been over paid by about $7 over the course of this transaction.

This is the kind of pettyness I have encountered with this woman.

I have asked her to submit to me complete records so that she can be paid to the penny if there is a discrepancy as I have no way of knowing what the exact fee is thru Paypal as it varies.

If you could actually come up with a true balance difference with full proof and records mailed to my home for verification, then I would pay the remaining difference to you.

However, in saying this if you owe me, then I expect a refund for the overpayment.

I do know that Paypal only charges $5 for Echecks. It is right in their rules I emailed you and it is toward the bottom of the page. Under the business rules. You are a business as a breeder. If you have not enrolled as a business maybe you should check the options.

I took a bad situation and made it right, Elonda. THAT IS THE KIND OF PERSON I AM. That is far from being dishonest and speaks a lot in itself.

If you could actually come up with a true balance difference with full proof and records mailed to my home for verification, then I would pay the remaining difference to you.

However, in saying this if you owe me, then I expect a refund for the overpayment.

I do know that Paypal only charges $5 for Echecks. It is right in their rules I emailed you and it is toward the bottom of the page. Under the business rules. You are a business as a breeder. If you have not enrolled as a business maybe you should check the options.

I took a bad situation and made it right, Elonda. THAT IS THE KIND OF PERSON I AM. That is far from being dishonest and speaks a lot in itself.

If you could actually come up with a true balance difference with full proof and records mailed to my home for verification, then I would pay the remaining difference to you.

However, in saying this if you owe me, then I expect a refund for the overpayment.

I do know that Paypal only charges $5 for Echecks. It is right in their rules I emailed you and it is toward the bottom of the page. Under the business rules. You are a business as a breeder. If you have not enrolled as a business maybe you should check the options.

I took a bad situation and made it right, Elonda. THAT IS THE KIND OF PERSON I AM. That is far from being dishonest and speaks a lot in itself.

If you could actually come up with a true balance difference with full proof and records mailed to my home for verification, then I would pay the remaining difference to you.

However, in saying this if you owe me, then I expect a refund for the overpayment.

I do know that Paypal only charges $5 for Echecks. It is right in their rules I emailed you and it is toward the bottom of the page. Under the business rules. You are a business as a breeder. If you have not enrolled as a business maybe you should check the options.

I took a bad situation and made it right, Elonda. THAT IS THE KIND OF PERSON I AM. That is far from being dishonest and speaks a lot in itself.

This has been paid in full and as far as I am concerned over.

Hey Laura, you know paypal charges 3% as you have a notice on your own site to add that fee before making payments, so I don't understand why you feel you are different when you make a payment to someone else thru paypal. We ALL get charged the fee. Laura sent her past payment and failed to add the fee, (on purpose I am SURE) To anyone reading this, this is the kind of person I have dealt with for a few years now. She drug this out for as long as she could. But I am so happy it is over, I know I for sure I have learned a valuable lesson in dealing with this woman and have heard MANY others say the same. I really wish you the best Laura and hope that you can learn morals and how to treat people in the future. Remember honesty will get you farther in life than anything else.

Last payment of $100 has not been recieved.

I have been receiving some harrassing emails that I checked IP addresses and seems to be Laura. She is also harrassing another breeder that I know. This woman just does not stop.

OMG Laura I surrender you win, you get the last word as I am sure you will. I know what I have and that is all I need.

I thought she was done posting... but no, only more threats.. As I have said, this never stops.

I have a packet on you too Elonda with all your emails and a recording with all your voice mails and calls. I have your vet reports and ex-rays, which I have actually read. I know from your posts, that you don't know what your own vet report states. You need to read your own vet reports. I have all my records and records you sent. I have taken all the information to an attorney and former judge, and he has indicated that she would probably not win in this situation based on the facts, all the threats and harassment. As we all know in any legal case, a judge would have the final decision. Until that gavel hits the stand and the judge makes the decision, it's all speculation. These situations are exactly what the legal system is for. I told you this before. And, I would bet this is exactly why Elonda hasn't sued, is because she is not certain she would actually win. She would incur more cost to sue me and possibly loss.

Yes, Dani, I also checked on a countersuit and was told what you have stated. I was also told as you stated that I could quit paying her. There are many threats in the posting here plus the ones I have thru email. Thank you for the information and I will keep it in mind for now and in the future. I am not sure of whom you are, but I appreciate your input. If you want her number you can locate it on her website at Classy Paw Shih Tzu. I am not sure if her email is there or not, she sometimes has it on line and other times takes it down because as she has stated to me she gets harassed a lot.

Elonda, if you post on Puppyfind, I can post on you too. I have my records too. So what kind of threat is that? Who does it actually hurt? Will it do YOU any good? OR is it just satisfaction that YOU are able to attempt to HURT someone. Or do you just LIKE THE FIGHT? Are you getting satisfaction from the comments here? While attempting to drag me thru the mud, you are hurting yourself here too. In the end, you are only hurt yourself with these games you play. These threats are childish? Your school girl mentality, that "if you don't get your way, you will do this and this to someone?" If you don't get your way, you will spread rumors? If you don't get your way, you will call people names like idiot. If I don't get your way, you will post bad things about others. Grow up Elonda.

Am I suppose to be scared or what... ?? As I have said your threats aren't working anymore...You have threatened me so much, that I frankly don't care anymore. In fact, I find it quite humerous that you go from one threat to the next. For what reason? Do you think if one threat won't work that you can threaten me a different way until you find one that does. For what Elonda? For the love of fighting?

You have no justification for your actions. You are getting what you and I agreed to, so for you to even continue this is here is petty. But no, you post, post and post. What are you proving? Are you trying to prove something to yourself?

None of this situation should have happened. Unfortunately, Elonda is one of those people who like to throw their weight around, threaten people and love to fight. We have all meet them and know exactly the type. No one can do anything to make them happy. The more they yell and scream, and push their weight around the happier they are. They pretend to be victim, as they scream in your face and assault you. We see them in stores making a scene all the time. They are the office trouble makers. They are the ones bad mouthing others and stand back and watch what happens and play innocent.

I told Elonda that I would make good on the puppy regardless of the cause of injury. Yes, I asked her how the injury occurred. Yes, I asked if it was possible the injury occurred during shipping. I like to think people are honest and would not hurt an animal. When I got the vet reports from her and the vets here, I knew it was injury caused. The dog could not be breed because the injury to the legs would not withstand the weight of pregnancy. There is no breeder out there that guarantees a dog will be breedable. If you know of one, I would suggest you get it in writing. This is because when selling an 8-10 week old puppy, the breeder doesn't know what will happen between this age and the time of breedings. The breeder doesn't know if the dog will be fertile or able to produce. The seller doesn't know if the puppy will eat something or have an injury that could cause the dog not to be breedable. If you want a dog that you know is breedable and has produced you can purchase adults. The buyer knows this too.

However, I have never changed my story, EVER!! Elonda knows this. My offered has always been the same as it is in my health guarantee which is clearly stated on the website and which I follow. Which Elonda agreed to when she purchased the puppy and we discussed prior to the purchase. There were several puppies Elonda wanted and then did not want. There were puppies she didn't want and then when I had them sold, she did. No I could not place a puppy that belonged to my mom with her. My mother, who is elderly, didn't want deal with her. Breeder after breeder has had problems with Elonda. Yes, I do occasionally list dogs for my mom and family. Yes, I do honor the health guarantee on any and all dogs I sell. Almost all of them come from my own dogs and lines. Many breeders do this exact same thing. Especially when it's family members.

Fortunately, with 12 years of breeding Elonda had been our only problem. Working out any situation with her has been impossible and has been since the start. There are some people who are just unreasonable. So due to the circumstances and truly only wanting to place my puppies in homes where they are loved and cared for, I have chosen to refund her money and get the situation settled. Yes, Elonda and I agreed upon a payment plan. However, even with a payment plan Elonda calls and harasses me. There are days, I would get 7-8 calls by noon, asking when she would get paid even prior to the due date. It seems that Elonda is not capable of sticking to any agreement she makes. Or maybe she is just that desperate for money.

By the way Elonda, we do have a few imports....and many champion lines...and so does Sara. Further, you don't know what we can or can't afford. You don't know what my financial situation is. Second, when you bought Cinnamon, you knew she didn't have champions in her pedigree..I have copies of the email where we sent her pedigree. Further, have you read the standards on a Shih Tzu to know what the face is suppose to look like. Your dogs eyes bug the same way. So what is the purpose of these comments??

Elonda as far as posting on here. Who started all this? YOU!!!!! Who keeps it going? YOU!!!! Sometimes, you post 2-3-4 times to the same remarks..

Yes, I will be happy this is settled as well. For future reference, Elonda, you get a lot farther with people using honey (which means a little kindness, in case you didn't know) than what you are doing. A little kindness goes a lot farther than threats, harassment and blackmail.

With the history, I doubt Elonda will ever stop harassing me.

I think you know the editor will not post phone numbers on here, so ask Laura for my email and send me your business card and your office number.

NOW, for the last time, ALL of this garbage is trivial, the fact is Laura owes me money, and yes she is paying, BUT I do expect EVERY payment to be on time. If I was an idiot, you are right, I would have already taken her to court, BUT as I responded before, I am a christian, and do try to live my life as one. BUT only IF people do not try to take advantage of me. Not another word will be said UNLESS I do not get my payments on time from now on. IF not, I am going to write on puppyfind and put a review on there, and WILL let puppyfind know I have all the evidence to prove that Cinnamon was bad, (which I have a whole packet on that dog, of xrays and things that I paid for out of my pocket) and I am sure they will not allow that review to be removed, I have already checked in to this.

Now ALL you "girls" get a life and stop waiting for me to reply on here, because I am not stooping to your levels anymore. So lets all grow up and leave each other alone, and get this taken care soon. I cannot wait for the day this is over and I can forget this horrible experience.

ALL of you IDIOTS GROW UP. IF I was being a real hard a** I would DEMAND all my money at once, I told Laura she could make payments, BUT I do expect them to be on time.

Now Dani, you know as well as I do the editor will not post phone numbers on here, so ask Laura for my email and I will send you my fax number. BUT I really do not give a d**n because you are a NOBODY, you are NOT the one Laura owes money to and you REALLY should just keep your BIG mouth shut, because in defending Laura you are speaking for yourself. Had Laura ONLY worked with me to get me a puppy of MY choice LONG ago, this would not be happening.

Now I do mean this is my last response to you immature girls that have NOTHING to do with your time other than to sit on here waiting for me to respond, You will be waiting a LONG time from now on, and you are going to get real bored with life, Maybe you need to find a "real" job.

It's completely clear that your allegations are unfounded. If Laura was a thief, she would not be making payments to you. The very fact that she makes them on the due date is not a crime or illegal. Do you know how ridiculous you sound? The fact that you state here that she is paying you discredits your very own words. Your very own posts here are evident that you have no control over your emotions or your own actions.

Elonda are only discrediting yourself with every single post you make.

Give me your fax number and I'll send you all the proof you want. You assume that just because I am taking sides for what I think is right that I'm a friend of the person you are insulting. I can assure you I am not. I do, however, find it interesting that you assume all us "girls" are in high school and don't know what we are talking about. I'm sorry, but if anyone here is being immature it's you. Give me your fax number and I'll send you my proof along with my card. You can call me and we'll take her to court together. I'll even do it for free. Why you ask? Because I know you wouldn't stand a chance against the counterclaim she would have againt you for this post.

My goodness, YES GROW UP, this is pathetic,

If you believe for ONE minute Laura was in the hospital, you are as NUTS as she is. If you only knew about her emails to me and her threats and the fact she waits until the VERY last minute each month to make these payments, you would know EXACTLY what is going on.

PROVE to me you are a lawyer I will give you my fax number, send me your info, No, because you are a "friend" not a lawyer, I know how friends defend friends on this report, My goodness this report is here for people who "Truely" have been ripped off by others, not for friends of thiefs to try and cover for them, GET A LIFE, and stay out of others lives.

BUT I do have a lawyer and am giving Laura the time to pay me, that IS a christian, if I wanted to be an idiot, I would have already taken her to court. I am not responding anymore to you idiots, you are immature high school girls with no life. As I said the "proof is in the pudding" and I have right here for any "ETHICAL" person to see it. That is all I need.

In your words, Elonda, "as we SHOULD be able to trust people in this world to not take advantage of others and be honest with what they sell. That is how most christians operate."

I am not Christian, but if I recall correctly, they believe in forgivness and compassion. You are laying into Laura for having a medical problem that kept her from making ONE payment on time. Even a credit card company would credit her late fee for ONE single late payment due to an illness.

I am, however, a lawyer and this statement right here, "please try to be more prompt with your payments in the future. I still have the names of legal aid should I need them" is a threat and she has every right to stop her payments to you should she choose to. If you were going to sue her, you would have done it already. You wouldn't have waited 8 months (in your own words) to contact her about the puppy problems. Grow up and stop threatening and harrassing her.

In your words, Elonda, "as we SHOULD be able to trust people in this world to not take advantage of others and be honest with what they sell. That is how most christians operate."

I am not Christian, but if I recall correctly, they believe in forgivness and compassion. You are laying into Laura for having a medical problem that kept her from making ONE payment on time. Even a credit card company would credit her late fee for ONE single late payment due to an illness.

I am, however, a lawyer and this statement right here, "please try to be more prompt with your payments in the future. I still have the names of legal aid should I need them" is a threat and she has every right to stop her payments to you should she choose to. If you were going to sue her, you would have done it already. You wouldn't have waited 8 months (in your own words) to contact her about the puppy problems. Grow up and stop threatening and harrassing her.

In your words, Elonda, "as we SHOULD be able to trust people in this world to not take advantage of others and be honest with what they sell. That is how most christians operate."

I am not Christian, but if I recall correctly, they believe in forgivness and compassion. You are laying into Laura for having a medical problem that kept her from making ONE payment on time. Even a credit card company would credit her late fee for ONE single late payment due to an illness.

I am, however, a lawyer and this statement right here, "please try to be more prompt with your payments in the future. I still have the names of legal aid should I need them" is a threat and she has every right to stop her payments to you should she choose to. If you were going to sue her, you would have done it already. You wouldn't have waited 8 months (in your own words) to contact her about the puppy problems. Grow up and stop threatening and harrassing her.

In your words, Elonda, "as we SHOULD be able to trust people in this world to not take advantage of others and be honest with what they sell. That is how most christians operate."

I am not Christian, but if I recall correctly, they believe in forgivness and compassion. You are laying into Laura for having a medical problem that kept her from making ONE payment on time. Even a credit card company would credit her late fee for ONE single late payment due to an illness.

I am, however, a lawyer and this statement right here, "please try to be more prompt with your payments in the future. I still have the names of legal aid should I need them" is a threat and she has every right to stop her payments to you should she choose to. If you were going to sue her, you would have done it already. You wouldn't have waited 8 months (in your own words) to contact her about the puppy problems. Grow up and stop threatening and harrassing her.

This same scenary has been played out over and over by Elonda. She bullys her way in the breeding world. Harasses breeders. Threatens, blackmails breeder after breeder. When a breeder fights back, she then attacks them and their quality to make herself look better. Everyone has a right to defend themselves against your nonsense.

Elonda, you have dumped dogs at the shelter and had dogs put to sleep that could have been a nice pet for someone. You have placed dog after dog in puppy mill homes. What about the dogs you have sold to breeders because their quality was too poor? Are these the "junk dogs" YOU dump on everyone? This is all from your own words. Your own history speaks for itself. We, in the breeder community, know about you.

All the money in the world will never buy you happiness. You will never have peace in your heart. I pity you.

This is just Elonda's way to continue harassing me as she has many, many breeders and has continued to do for months.

It's not working Elonda..

Laura Cinnamon as from your cousin Dear, tell me what lines I have that has the same lines as Cinnamon, Most all my dogs have champion peds, a few are imports, which YOU cannot afford. Cinnamon has NOTHING for pedigree, just junk that you and your cousin Sarah Baxter produced and pushed off for high $. All the dogs you have now, are UGLY, with bulging eyes so tell me what I have from the same lines as you?

You told me when Cinnamon was returned and you was going to breed her that you decided against it because of her legs, so you placed her in a loving pet home as a playmate for 2 little girls, I still have that email too. so if anyone wants to see it. Bet you didn't think I saved those things did you? I still have the WHOLE packet of records on Cinnamon with ALL your emails

Honestly this is not who I am to argue with a liar and someone with high school mentality on rip off report, I am much more mature than this, so please for anyone who wants to see what was REALLY wrong with that dog, ask for it and I will send it.

Sooooooooo keep having your friends to stand up for you honey you really need it. All I need is the proof and I have it, What about you??????? Keep on sinking yourself, your lies are coming out and if anyone REALLY cares and wants to see it, I have it and will be more than glad to send it

I do not have to lie to back what I am saying, I have vet reports here that prove that dogs legs were bad when she got here. First Laura says it happened in flight, (yeah right go tell that to the airlines) Now I swung the dog by her legs and fractured them, What a pathetic lie.

Anyone feel free to look at my site www.classypawsshihtzus.com and see how my dogs live on an everyday basis, they are treated like royalty, then go to Lauras site and see if she has pics of her dogs dressed in adorable little outfits, swimming in her pool, (with lifejackets, mind you) playing with all their MANY toys and sleeping in their soft little beds. Then you can make an accurate guess who is lieing here and who is telling the truth. ANYONE please contact me, I would more than happy to show ANYONE what my vet said about that dogs legs, It was genetic and I was for sure told NOT to breed her. I would like to know how ANYONE could think a Shih Tzu should walk like a bulldog. Laura I thought you wanted to end this, you SAY you are paying me and paying on time, (another lie) you save payments until the last day of the month, and the last minute just to be hafeful and prove YOUR point. YOU ARE A JOKE and the whole shih tzu breeding world is going to know more about you if you continue to do as you are doing. Again PLEASE anyone contact me and I will send you the vet reports on this dog in question. And the vet saw the pup immediately after she got here.

This report on Laura and harassment of this breeder is a complete hoax and lie. Elonda is just threatening and harassing people.

I have read all the comments about Elonda on the internet, on this site and others about her history. Per Elonda's own words, she is only into breeding to make a lot of money this was statted in several places on this site and others. You have no concern for the dogs or anything other than how much money you can make on the puppies. You were going to start several businesses and get out of breeding because there wasn't enough money in it. This was in an email on the site www.elondawomack.com I even contacted Elonda about buying a dog to find out what kind of person she really is. I would never buy a dog from someone who is so crazy. Even in the conversation with Elonda, she changed subjects and couldn't keep focused. I even asked you about Cinnamon.

I am here to tell you that I own Cinnamon. I adopted Cinnamon from Laura two days after she arrived back. Laura and I took Cinnamon to the vet school in Northern Idaho. Cinnamon had two fractures in her legs. They showed up on the Ex-Rays you provided and were recognized by our vet here. The repair was a minor surgery. Where they came from or how she got them is unknown to us. I was with Laura when she took Cinnamon to the vet. The vet's first comment was that he didn't believe this was the same dog. His next comment was how could a dog get fractures in this positions in both legs. He thought maybe she had been thrown or swung by her legs. NO wonder she could hardly walk.

I can't tell you all the problems we had with Cinnamon in house training her and getting her adjusted to a family environment. I am not sure what kind of Puppy mill operation you are running Elonda, but you certainly have no concern for the dogs you are raising.

For your own information Elonda, Laura paid for all the vet bills including the spay and training to help the dog adjust.

Elonda you are pathetic.

You have to harass people to make yourself look better.

More harassment, more threats and more lies by Elonda. Elonda has a long history of this very same thing with many breeders.

From her own comment, she is not going to stop.

Sorry, Elonda, it's NOT working any more...

As far as breeding dogs, we have purchased from many of the same breeders and our dogs have many of the same lineage and pedigrees. So I am not sure what you are trying to say with this threat.

This is getting old, Elonda.

Laura I will STOP when You send me ALL my money or make the promised monthly payments "on time"

As far as the vet reports funny if you sent them I never received them LOL, Why don't you send them again so the people who are asking to see them can see them. Laura people know what you are , I have MANY emails from people that have dealt with you and they know what you are. You won't send those reports because you are the BIGGEST liar, its sad when people have to lie to cover their bad breeding practices. Why dont you stop TRYING to defend yourself and drop it, if you want it to be dropped, you keep responding and lieing to cover your #$# and make yourself look good. Someday maybe you can stop acting like a child and grow up. Spend money on your breeding program and stop producing junk OR selling JUNK for someone else. I am NOT going to stop as long as you TRY to keep defending yourself by Lieing. When you send me the proof from the university that dogs legs were not bad, then we will talk. Until then you are just what I said you are a liar.

I saw this little girl yesterday. She is doing awesome and being played with by three little girls. In fact, she was running on a leash in the park... The family has started her in an agility course with 4-H.

Elonda the vet reports were sent to you months ago. I am not going back and requesting them again nor am I going to waste my time continually copying them for you and resending them. I even have the proof of delivery from the post office.

I am not going to continue to going over the situation with Cinnamon with you as your stories change. Replacement puppies were available many times and I have the emails and proof of Elonda changing her mind repeatedly. I even have an email from you stating, I don't own her anything. Sent last spring when you dad was moving in with you.

Again, here you are threating me. Quit harassing me. Quit threatening me.

Yes, I blocked your emails from the continued harassment and threats months ago. It was one way to get this stopped. Elonda found my other email address and started bombarding me with harassing, threatening emails again. The harassment never stops. I will not accept your calls or return your numerous calls as it is only more harassments and threats. Every voice mail is another threat or form of blackmail. Yes, I sent you an email stating not to contact me. Yes, I do have grounds and the legal right to tell you not to contact me based on what you have sent.

I have a very good attorney by the way and know my rights.

It is unfortunate, that you have had to have an attorney to represent YOU for 9 YEARS.

Final words Elonda. Just drop it. You are getting "YOUR MONEY." As you agreed!! There is no grounds for the harassment, threats and blackmail.

Laura since you have sent me threatening emails and "say" you are not accepting mine, I will post here because obviously you like to read this to keep things going and trying to defend yourself. Obviously you do have a problem or otherwise you would let this drop, pay my money ON TIME and be done. How was I to know you were in the hospital, All I knew was my money was not here by the 1st of the month has you promised.

Apparently the lawyer you referred to in your email to me tonite, (where others cannot read it to see how you reallly act) must be an attorney you found in a cracker jack box, Mine does not come from there and he does know what he is talking about. He has represented my husbands LLC business for 9 years, so ONE more email from you and it will go directly to him, please keep your hate to yourself. I have never said I would contact the BBB, as I know they are useless in these circumstances, I did however say I would contact the Attorney general in your state, but that was before I spoke with my attorney whom will represent me here and find legal aid for me should I need it there.

You need to remember YOU are the one that owes me, I owe you NOTHING. You know for a fact that dog was defective, no one could look at that dog (not even your vet) and say those bowed legs were not genetic in nature, however I gave it some time to see if they corrected themselves before I contacted you. I could have demanded this refund a LONG time ago. as the board certified radiologist and the specialist both told me DO NOT breed that dog. You "say" you have proof from the Univ in Idaho that it was not genetic and was abuse, however Laura I have still yet to see that proof because like I said, YOU DO NOT HAVE IT. I also gave you ample time to get me a replacement puppy to which EVERY puppy I asked for you could not sell to me. Now lets STOP the rude emails and hatefullness, pay back the money and do not send me any more emails, or I am going to get you for harrasment, as my lawyer told me I have EVERY right to contact you, YOU however have no right to send a constant barrage of rude emails to me. GROW UP, PAY ME MY MONEY AND ON TIME, AND THIS WILL END. Believe me I cannot wait for the day that I no longer have to "ask" for MY money.

I had a medical situation and spent some time in the hospital. I was discharged on July 2nd. While I was there, Elonda placed numerous calls and pages to my phone starting June 30th. My phone lists over 20 missed calls from Elonda's number in two days.

In response Lucky, I do raise top quality dogs many with champion pedigrees. The puppies are raised in my home and receive individual attention. They are socialized before going to their new homes. I have children and family who handle the dogs daily. I have worked very hard on my breeding program as most good breeders do. It does seem like a lot of money to buy the right dog. But it is the going rate for certain lines, or pedigrees or special colors. We as breeders buy sight unseen many times relying on breeder history and knowledge as well as knowing pedigrees and lines. There are times we have to place dog as it matures if its not the quality that we were looking for. As a good breeder, I place my dogs in pet homes when they are retired. We always offer to take a dog back that is not wanted and find them a home. I also do rescue. I have groomed dogs from the shelter to help find them a home. It is very sad when people take a puppy and then choose they don't want the dog.

Best of wishes.

LOL I have to laugh at that last response, I am sure Laura you have your friends posting reports on here to make me look bad, Yes I did buy from Laura and yes indeed she very well may be a puppymill. she "says" she has all her parents genetically tested prior to breeding. And this is how MOST all breeders get their breeding stock, (sight unseen) as we SHOULD be able to trust people in this world to not take advantage of others and be honest with what they sell. That is how most christians operate.

Laura did make payment today July 2nd 2008 of $200, however Laura good credit is only obtained and kept by keeping your payments current and on time, Late payments are not good, please try to be more prompt with your payments in the future. I still have the names of legal aid should I need them.

LOL I have to laugh at that last response, I am sure Laura you have your friends posting reports on here to make me look bad, Yes I did buy from Laura and yes indeed she very well may be a puppymill. she "says" she has all her parents genetically tested prior to breeding. And this is how MOST all breeders get their breeding stock, (sight unseen) as we SHOULD be able to trust people in this world to not take advantage of others and be honest with what they sell. That is how most christians operate.

Laura did make payment today July 2nd 2008 of $200, however Laura good credit is only obtained and kept by keeping your payments current and on time, Late payments are not good, please try to be more prompt with your payments in the future. I still have the names of legal aid should I need them.

LOL I have to laugh at that last response, I am sure Laura you have your friends posting reports on here to make me look bad, Yes I did buy from Laura and yes indeed she very well may be a puppymill. she "says" she has all her parents genetically tested prior to breeding. And this is how MOST all breeders get their breeding stock, (sight unseen) as we SHOULD be able to trust people in this world to not take advantage of others and be honest with what they sell. That is how most christians operate.

Laura did make payment today July 2nd 2008 of $200, however Laura good credit is only obtained and kept by keeping your payments current and on time, Late payments are not good, please try to be more prompt with your payments in the future. I still have the names of legal aid should I need them.

LOL I have to laugh at that last response, I am sure Laura you have your friends posting reports on here to make me look bad, Yes I did buy from Laura and yes indeed she very well may be a puppymill. she "says" she has all her parents genetically tested prior to breeding. And this is how MOST all breeders get their breeding stock, (sight unseen) as we SHOULD be able to trust people in this world to not take advantage of others and be honest with what they sell. That is how most christians operate.

Laura did make payment today July 2nd 2008 of $200, however Laura good credit is only obtained and kept by keeping your payments current and on time, Late payments are not good, please try to be more prompt with your payments in the future. I still have the names of legal aid should I need them.

I can almost feel sorry for you. But your own actions in purchasing a puppy sight unseen from a "breeder" for $2000.00, all but insured that you would be taken advantage of. Why do you think the puppy had genetic problems? Inbreeding at puppy mills thats why.

Millions of dogs are killed at shelters every year. Why not look for your next "exotic orange liver dog" at a shelter, and save one? These breeders are only in business because people like you keep them in business.

It is the 1st of July and no payment has been received from Laura for June, her promise was monthly payments until I was paid if full. So I ask who is the "bad" person here??? Laura has tried to make me look like the villain in this mess because she cannot steal from me and get away with it. Go back and read her emails. Laura you have not lived up to your promises, so obviously you are giving me no choice, since you still have quiet a bit left to pay me.

It is the 1st of July and no payment has been received from Laura for June, her promise was monthly payments until I was paid if full. So I ask who is the "bad" person here??? Laura has tried to make me look like the villain in this mess because she cannot steal from me and get away with it. Go back and read her emails. Laura you have not lived up to your promises, so obviously you are giving me no choice, since you still have quiet a bit left to pay me.

Another payment received from Laura on Mar 29th, 2008 for $200

THe last payment sent was for Feb 31, 2008, not Mar. Payment was for Feb, we will be looking for our March payment before the end of the month.

Received another payment for 199. 76 on Mar 31st. Thank you Laura, you are getting there!!!!!!!

This is my last response to this report. As I stated, Laura is now paying me my money. I have no further comments unless that would stop. All I have wanted from the beginning is what I paid for, that did not happen, so after a few years, I think I am entitled to my money. As I stated all I have been seeing on Laura's site for the past few years is mostly common colored shih tzus. that is not what I paid $2000 for and I will not accept it. I do not know what she has been producing, nor do I care at this point, I just know that nothing I saw, would I pay $2000 for.

When I did see the red liver female, I inquired to which Laura informed me it was her mothers puppy and she would not place her with me. I am sure because she wanted her money, BUT the way I see it is, Laura should not be advertising puppys on her site that she is not responsible for, That was the deal with Cinnamon, the original dog I got that was defective, she belonged to Lauras cousin Sarah Baxter, after that incident and Cinnamon being defective, If I were her, I would not be advertising puppys/dogs for other people. As I stated above all I want is my money at this point, everything is is trivial.

I am not saying Laura is a bad breeder, I have seen many of her dogs that are adorable and I am sure very healthy. I am happy Laura Is active in the canine community, more people like that are needed. ALL I am saying is $2000 is nothing to sneeze at, had I only paid $200, I would not be so upset that I am sitting here 2 years later still waiting for what I paid for. I will continue to post as I receive payments

I would like to post comment on Tiny Shihtzus. She and I emailed one another and I believe she is as active in her community with her shih-tzus as I am. I am a pet owner 1st and breeder if the girls are willing lol They have been breed once. Laura was the only breeder I have had privledge of knowing about who does care about Quality of life in her community and the Shih-tzu being brought into the community as a therapy breed. I highly recommend Laura Tiny Imperials as a matter of fact I only breed my girls every other year if then .So If anyone asks me of Quality person with Shih-tzus I know where to send them. In Mobile we get 1200.00 and up per shih-tzu without web site.

I personally have never sold a dog over the internet maybe never will. All of my furbabies are in Mobile and near counties. We need more breeders like Laura who stands up and not only breeds but gives back to the community. I personally would love for anyone who breeds shih-tzu to learn their need for love and affection and they make the best lil Therapy Shih-tzus Around. I would for one recommend Tiny Imperials to anyone who wants a loving and active Producer of this breed.

I would like to post comment on Tiny Shihtzus. She and I emailed one another and I believe she is as active in her community with her shih-tzus as I am. I am a pet owner 1st and breeder if the girls are willing lol They have been breed once. Laura was the only breeder I have had privledge of knowing about who does care about Quality of life in her community and the Shih-tzu being brought into the community as a therapy breed. I highly recommend Laura Tiny Imperials as a matter of fact I only breed my girls every other year if then .So If anyone asks me of Quality person with Shih-tzus I know where to send them. In Mobile we get 1200.00 and up per shih-tzu without web site.

I personally have never sold a dog over the internet maybe never will. All of my furbabies are in Mobile and near counties. We need more breeders like Laura who stands up and not only breeds but gives back to the community. I personally would love for anyone who breeds shih-tzu to learn their need for love and affection and they make the best lil Therapy Shih-tzus Around. I would for one recommend Tiny Imperials to anyone who wants a loving and active Producer of this breed.

I would like to post comment on Tiny Shihtzus. She and I emailed one another and I believe she is as active in her community with her shih-tzus as I am. I am a pet owner 1st and breeder if the girls are willing lol They have been breed once. Laura was the only breeder I have had privledge of knowing about who does care about Quality of life in her community and the Shih-tzu being brought into the community as a therapy breed. I highly recommend Laura Tiny Imperials as a matter of fact I only breed my girls every other year if then .So If anyone asks me of Quality person with Shih-tzus I know where to send them. In Mobile we get 1200.00 and up per shih-tzu without web site.

I personally have never sold a dog over the internet maybe never will. All of my furbabies are in Mobile and near counties. We need more breeders like Laura who stands up and not only breeds but gives back to the community. I personally would love for anyone who breeds shih-tzu to learn their need for love and affection and they make the best lil Therapy Shih-tzus Around. I would for one recommend Tiny Imperials to anyone who wants a loving and active Producer of this breed.

I would like to post comment on Tiny Shihtzus. She and I emailed one another and I believe she is as active in her community with her shih-tzus as I am. I am a pet owner 1st and breeder if the girls are willing lol They have been breed once. Laura was the only breeder I have had privledge of knowing about who does care about Quality of life in her community and the Shih-tzu being brought into the community as a therapy breed. I highly recommend Laura Tiny Imperials as a matter of fact I only breed my girls every other year if then .So If anyone asks me of Quality person with Shih-tzus I know where to send them. In Mobile we get 1200.00 and up per shih-tzu without web site.

I personally have never sold a dog over the internet maybe never will. All of my furbabies are in Mobile and near counties. We need more breeders like Laura who stands up and not only breeds but gives back to the community. I personally would love for anyone who breeds shih-tzu to learn their need for love and affection and they make the best lil Therapy Shih-tzus Around. I would for one recommend Tiny Imperials to anyone who wants a loving and active Producer of this breed.

Elonda agrees with this statement about her history as breeder. After reading post on Tiny Imperial seems as though Laura has become another victim of many breeders that Elonda has harrassed and lied about. I have seen the emails from a website about Elonda. Poor Laura

AMEN!!! One time I agree with you Laura, life is too short to fight about these things. To everyone out there that reads this, Laura is making a very conscientious effort to get me paid back, that is all I wanted to start with, everything else is trivial.

Michelle, what are you referring to? I haven't posted one comment to you or about you. I haven't even posted any comments about you taking your dogs to the beach or anywhere else.

Maybe you should "READ" and find out "WHOM" you are responding to. Then respond appropriately to those individuals...

And to all your questions... all my dogs are well cared for. They receive obedience training - each and every adult. I have two therapy dogs that visit the local care center and assisted living center. My kids do 4-H with the dogs. Yes, we have done dog shows. Yes, they ride in the car with us. We live on 5 acreas and they have over an acre to themselves to run in plus we take them out in field and play catch with them. We have an agility course for them to play in. They have play equipment. We frequently take them with us when travel.

I am very well educated on dog diseases and immunity. I have volunteered at the vet clinic to learn more about dogs and diseases. Yes, I do Shih Tzu rescue and work with the shelters. I have donated food, time and labor including dog grooming services to the shelter.

I do not owe you an apology as I never posted to your comments.

Honestly, I am glad your dogs have a wonderful home and have someone who loves. I very glad that you enjoy them.

AND to anyone else who wonders, why I haven't responded to Elonda.. She can't keep her information straight and I truly don't feel that it is worth my time and energy to respond to her and lower myself to these games. Her reputation and history speaks for itself. I am refunding her money and there is little to add to the story.

Frankly, I have a very busy life. Life is to short to waste and I prefer to spend my time in other ways. GOD BLESS!!!

update to post I did I was not accurate on name of person who questioned my breeding of my 4 shihtzus. Her name is Teresa not Laura. Laura I do apologize for wrong name on post.

Well, Are you trying to say that if I take my pets to beach and come home and bath and groom them they will get 5 different diseases. lol Go back to your vet honey and ask which is healthier playing with your shih-tzus at beach,park,taking long walks and oh I also take them brace yourself.... ready TO THE PUBLIC PARK. OMG sound the alarm. Strange that you would say I bring my pets from beach to babies. You do not know that at all and owe me an apology. My girls were mated and in my home and yard for 63 days. They did not even ride in car while pregnant to get to beach or park for fear of any diseases I have my puppies welped by Auburn Graduated vet both girls. I take my shih-tzus to vet. Do you? I am more than aware of the diseases that lay on vets floors, public places etc. I take my shih-tzus in the vet in carrier they never touch the ground. Laura do you have puppies all year long? I DO NOT. I have two litter of champion akc shih-tzus once per year. So you have me mistaken with someone else. I do not take chances with my pets. I am a pet owner with my shih-tzus in home. Would anyone like to talk to my vets office? You assumed I am puppy mill by comment of beach to puppies and do not appreciate it. I am far from puppy mill. I also have therapy shih-tzu in training for children's Hospital in Mobile al where akc has Leash of Love. Do you think for a minute I am not very aware of all cleaning of my shih-tzus and there proper care when they arrive back home after our trip to beach,vet,walks,park,groomers, or just up to grocery they ride in car with me. May we see your shih-tzu you claim you have from breeder you was so eager to make ignorant, uneducated, accusations of my awareness of my shih-tzu pets. Do you breed Laura? You seem too because you think I have puppies waiting for moms from beach. May we know are your shih-tzu ever allowed out ? What puppy classes have your shih-tzus been through? Do you support your local animal shelter? Do not ASSUME you know me LAura but I would love to know which kennel you own? If not and you have pet talk to your vet about you getting past your fear of public places like park,beach, puppy classes with other dogs of all breeds. I am sure your PET will thank you for getting educated on keeping your pet active and happy.

And another thing Thressa, Have you ever heard of breeders that don't put all their dogs on their websites, simply because of people like you that just surf the net looking for trouble and minding everyones business except your own? I happen to know a few of them that do not. I being one of them. Keep your eyes and ears open, you will see litters come up with me of dogs that WILL NOT be on my website UNTIL they are bred. Simply because I do not want all you idiots to know what I have. And do not worry I would not want to purchase from you anyway. I now have the breeders I trust to purchase from and I am doing just FINE in spite of all the lies and trash that has been put out on me.

Good for you Theresa, I am happy you have had good results, like I said I had not, Laura has finally decided to make it right, and I am posting that as money comes in, YOU need to mind your own business honey, this has NOTHING to do with you. As far as my dogs going to the beach, THEY DO NOT, they swim in MY pool in MY backyard, and are with me daily not in a kennel. As far as that little website ElondaWomack.com, well I feel the same about that website that you feel about me, I AM NOT AFRAID OF IT, it does not bother me, I do not breed dogs for a living, this is my hobby and passion, it does not put food on my table the way it does for you other breeders. And as for as the dogs I place that is also MY business and ask Laura if she did not say herself, that is something that breeders do constantly is change their dogs. IF i do not like a dog once I get it here or I change my mind on colors I want to produce yes I place them, BUT I ALWAYS find good homes for them, most go to homes just like mine, where they are loved unconditionally.

As far as Laura getting blood work and checks done on her dogs, maybe so, I never said she did not, BUT when a certified radiologist at a professional vet clinic in Indianapolis said the dogs legs are bad, do not breed it, I for one listen to that. Laura NEVER provided me with those so called reports from the University there in ID, that said I abused that dog, WHY, because it did NOT happen.

Now I think it would be best for Laura, if her friends do not make ANY more comments here where they are not concerned, and they know NOTHING about the dog in question, IF so I will just go to small claims court and sue her in court and we will see how long it takes then to get my money, I am being fair by giving her MONTHS to pay me back, I do not think any other breeder would be this nice. ONE more commment here and that is exactly what I plan on doing. I am tired of being made out to be the bad person, when these breeders have only suppplied me with their JUNK.

I am sorry. I have to respond to this. I bought a beautiful little male from Laura. I am very happy to have him and very pleased with Laura as a breeder. Laura was very open and upfront about size, quality and confirmation. When Laura didn't have what I wanted in a puppy she recommended a few other breeders. However, I decided to wait as I know the quality that Laura breeds and knew she was honest.

When Laura finally had a litter that fit my needs she was upfront about each puppy and gave me information so that I could choose the best puppy. She went over the confirmation of each and why one would be better for breeding over another. I made a choice between several of Laura's dogs.

As far as vet work, Laura provided me a complete copy of blood work done on the puppy to check liver, kidney functions and health. So I know, Laura individual has all her puppies tested. Can either you or Elonda say that?

I am sure Laura has spent many dollars on vet bills and care for her dogs. If someone has blood work done on puppies then certainly they will spend money on the adults.

As far as comments about taking your dogs to the Beach, many people don't take their animals to the beach for fear of what could happen to them such as lost or stolen. Not to mention, the diseases that other dogs on the beach carry which can be picked up by dogs going to the beach and carried to newborn or young puppies such as Parvo, Corona and other diseases which are commonly found in public areas. Have you checked your vaccination information to find out what all is covered. Not all shots have all disease covered in them. Further, have you heard of Lyme's Disease and West Nile Virus and how it affects dogs. I am sure for the health and safety of dogs and puppies I wouldn't do this!!

As far as Elonda, caring for her dogs as pets 1st. You might want to check into that a little more. Dogs change on Elonda's site every few months. Where do all these dogs she buys and dispose of go? The animal shelter!!! Put to sleep!!! Other breeders!!! Puppy mills!!! I would certainly question Elonda's motives.

Breeders aren't afraid of Elonda... Not hardly!!!! We all wish her success. There are many breeders in the world and I am sure there is a place for her. However, I would say that Elonda has created many of her own problems and she has to live with what she has done to people. Have you seen the website and her posts on www.elondawomack.com. Elonda hardly appears to be a reputable person. I would question Elonda's ethics....

ON comment that Elonda has alot to learn working with breeders.?? Are you serious?? lol Elonda is a pet owner 1st and like me takes her beloved pets to vet. I know Elonda can post pages upon pages of vet bills as can I. I am not speaking for Elonda but As myself Do you have your puppies pictures in swimming pool or going to beach? Thought not.

Elonda as myself have both been condemed for having shih-tzus by web-sites being wrote against us.. Breeders do not want educated breeders who use vets and not just breed with no vet care. What are breeders scared of ETHICAL BREEDING PRACTICES??? I am sorry Elonda I held off as long as possible. I have seen your site and know No one can stage a beach scene or pool scene it really happens the shih-tzus actually gets out of a kennel. What a new concept. Shih-tzu owners who play with and live with their pets. And breed because thet want to better the breed.

I am happy you have a good relationship with Laura, I am sure many have. Laura has some cute and tiny puppies. But my experience was not so pleasant, although Laura has made a conscientious effort to change my way of thinking. I asked Laura back in the summer for a red liver female puppy she had on HER website, she informed me it was her moms puppy and she could not send her to me.

All I am saying is I paid for a red liver puppy, not your average puppy you can find everyday, under $1000. Also Cinnamon was advertised as a tiny girl, when she left here she was every bit of 10 Lbs or more. I am hoping this gets resolved and I can form a different opinion, we are both working at this. and if I continue to receive payments monthly until it is paid in full, there will be no problems here, as I said, I could do what cc companys do and that is charge interest, as if this were a loan, for sure after all this time.

Believe me I did not want to return Cinnamon, we loved her, but I paid for a breeding dog and was informed by a certified radiologist and 2 vets not to breed her, yet that was my main purpose for buying her, I would have never spent 2000 for a pet. I have had an imperial breeder contact me since I wrote this report and inform me of her experience with Laura, I do understand though, no one is perfect, we all have flaws.

I have bought three wonderful dogs from Laura over the last five years They have had excellent pedigrees and confirmation. They all came to me with blood work done and vet checked. Her health guarantee is right on the website. I have not had any problems with them. Laura always went above and beyond in helping me get the right dogs for me and my family. She has never once been anything but honest and reputable. I would highly recommend Laura to anyone wanting to buy a Shih Tzu.

Jan 21st laura sent an echeck for $300. I feel she is making a conscientious effort to get this resolved. Updates will follow as payments are made

As of today, the payment of $200, that Laura promised to send towards the $2000, was received. Updates will follow as payments are received monthly.

I really wish that anyone reading this could hear a phone message Laura left on my voicemail tonite when she called to tell me she was sending $200. Her message was that she sent me $200 by postal money order and that she wished I lived a long miserable life. To me that sounds like a desperate woman that knows she is in the wrong. How could anyone wish ill things on others, certainly isn't the moral, christian thing to do, I certainly would be afraid those wishes could be reversed, if I had done to others as she as done.

Hey Laura send me those reports from the vet and the University stating that dog was abused, I asked for them, you never sent them, I am SURE because you don't have them and cannot get them, for the simple fact that dog was not abused in the least, in fact she had a MUCH better life here than she had with you or your cousin. And you tell me the red liver puppy I picked out from your moms litter that you had on YOUR site for sale, that your mom would not let you send her to me, well I guess not if you all wanted to get MORE money for her.

As I said Laura, if you REALLY wanted to end this, it would have been done LONG ago, All I got from you before was pick a puppy, because that is all you were going to do, well sorry but I do not have to pick a puppy from your "leftovers" that no one else wants. So the best thing for you to do, is sell all those "leftovers" and send me monthly payments like I have asked. You are VERY lucky I am not asking for interest. And PLEEEEEEEASE tell Sarah to give me a call, I have something to say to her.

Laura if you want to keep this going honey we will, my next step is to my lawyer and then to court. I am tired of your games, ANYONE can go to my site at classypawsshihtzus and see that my dogs are my BABIES, not just money makers, they are spoiled rotten, they sleep in soft beds, and have more clothes and toys than most children, as that is how I perceive my dogs. Cinnamon was not abused and I have vet reports to prove that this was genetic in nature and is heriditary. You are just using ALL the other rip off breeders that have TRIED to keep my money and send me JUNK against me, that is NOT working anymore, I am not scared of ANY of you thiefs, money is money and its not YOUR money you are keeping, it is MINE. I have heard about your cousin Sarah Baxter and the breeder of Cinnamon and how she does business so tell her to call me and tell ME, that I abused Cinnamon, I would love for her to do that. THen I will send her all these d**n vet bills over $300 in xrays alone. STOP trying to use excues for your POOR and unethical practices, because I for one do not buy them and WILL pursue this to the fullest extent of the law. My lawyer has already told me I do not have to take ANY puppy from you, if I want my money, I can get my money, it is illegal in ANY state to do what you are trying to do. I am not responding to anymore of your crap, so payments of $200 monthly or we will go to court.

There is much more to the story then Elonda has posted. Her posting is very one sided and fails to mention many things. There is a "real" story behind poor Cinnamon and her condition, which was not caused by poor breeding or genetics.

Cinnnamon didn't come from my lines but from another breeder. The breeder has almost 30 years of experience. Prior to leaving, Cinnamon had blood work and tests done, confirmed by two vets. The vets found no signs of the problems Elonda mentioned.

Cinnmon's breeder refused to replace Cinnamon due to her being abuse and the damage from the legs due to the abuse. This was confirmed by the vet and by the vet training program at the university.

Cinnamon was placed in a very loving home after being spayed - at no charge to her new owners. Her new owners have had no problems with the legs after they healed. She did have to go thru several obedience and professional training programs to help her adapt to living in a family, home environment.

Elonda has always agreed to have a replacement puppy. I have emails from wanting a specific color and changing mind from male to female.. Constantly, changing her mind. Less than a month ago she demand cash. As I explained to her, I didn't have that much money up front we set an agreement.

In the best interest of my dogs and my love of breeding, it is the only solution to pay Elonda and move on. I cannot with a good heart and conscious place any dogs with her.

Elonda has a long history of problems working with breeders. She has much to learn.

There is much more to the story then Elonda has posted. Her posting is very one sided and fails to mention many things. There is a "real" story behind poor Cinnamon and her condition, which was not caused by poor breeding or genetics.

Cinnnamon didn't come from my lines but from another breeder. The breeder has almost 30 years of experience. Prior to leaving, Cinnamon had blood work and tests done, confirmed by two vets. The vets found no signs of the problems Elonda mentioned.

Cinnmon's breeder refused to replace Cinnamon due to her being abuse and the damage from the legs due to the abuse. This was confirmed by the vet and by the vet training program at the university.

Cinnamon was placed in a very loving home after being spayed - at no charge to her new owners. Her new owners have had no problems with the legs after they healed. She did have to go thru several obedience and professional training programs to help her adapt to living in a family, home environment.

Elonda has always agreed to have a replacement puppy. I have emails from wanting a specific color and changing mind from male to female.. Constantly, changing her mind. Less than a month ago she demand cash. As I explained to her, I didn't have that much money up front we set an agreement.

In the best interest of my dogs and my love of breeding, it is the only solution to pay Elonda and move on. I cannot with a good heart and conscious place any dogs with her.

Elonda has a long history of problems working with breeders. She has much to learn.

There is much more to the story then Elonda has posted. Her posting is very one sided and fails to mention many things. There is a "real" story behind poor Cinnamon and her condition, which was not caused by poor breeding or genetics.

Cinnnamon didn't come from my lines but from another breeder. The breeder has almost 30 years of experience. Prior to leaving, Cinnamon had blood work and tests done, confirmed by two vets. The vets found no signs of the problems Elonda mentioned.

Cinnmon's breeder refused to replace Cinnamon due to her being abuse and the damage from the legs due to the abuse. This was confirmed by the vet and by the vet training program at the university.

Cinnamon was placed in a very loving home after being spayed - at no charge to her new owners. Her new owners have had no problems with the legs after they healed. She did have to go thru several obedience and professional training programs to help her adapt to living in a family, home environment.

Elonda has always agreed to have a replacement puppy. I have emails from wanting a specific color and changing mind from male to female.. Constantly, changing her mind. Less than a month ago she demand cash. As I explained to her, I didn't have that much money up front we set an agreement.

In the best interest of my dogs and my love of breeding, it is the only solution to pay Elonda and move on. I cannot with a good heart and conscious place any dogs with her.

Elonda has a long history of problems working with breeders. She has much to learn.

There is much more to the story then Elonda has posted. Her posting is very one sided and fails to mention many things. There is a "real" story behind poor Cinnamon and her condition, which was not caused by poor breeding or genetics.

Cinnnamon didn't come from my lines but from another breeder. The breeder has almost 30 years of experience. Prior to leaving, Cinnamon had blood work and tests done, confirmed by two vets. The vets found no signs of the problems Elonda mentioned.

Cinnmon's breeder refused to replace Cinnamon due to her being abuse and the damage from the legs due to the abuse. This was confirmed by the vet and by the vet training program at the university.

Cinnamon was placed in a very loving home after being spayed - at no charge to her new owners. Her new owners have had no problems with the legs after they healed. She did have to go thru several obedience and professional training programs to help her adapt to living in a family, home environment.

Elonda has always agreed to have a replacement puppy. I have emails from wanting a specific color and changing mind from male to female.. Constantly, changing her mind. Less than a month ago she demand cash. As I explained to her, I didn't have that much money up front we set an agreement.

In the best interest of my dogs and my love of breeding, it is the only solution to pay Elonda and move on. I cannot with a good heart and conscious place any dogs with her.

Elonda has a long history of problems working with breeders. She has much to learn.

As of today 12/6/2007. Laura has informed me that she has sent me $200 by money order. I told her from the very beginning that if she would just make payments to me, that would be fine, but I had to see that an attempt was being made to pay me my money. As long as these payments come monthly until this is paid in full, I am happy with that, most would charge interest, after this long, but I just want what I paid and be done with this. I will post here as payments are sent. I understand anyone having trouble coming up with this much money at one time, as things are tight for everyone right now, but as with any debt, some type of payment is necesary. Once this is paid in full, I would be happy to post that here. I have no problem with Laura as a person, but this is fraud and as advised by my attorney it is against the law in any state for someone to keep your money.

As of today 12/6/2007. Laura has informed me that she has sent me $200 by money order. I told her from the very beginning that if she would just make payments to me, that would be fine, but I had to see that an attempt was being made to pay me my money. As long as these payments come monthly until this is paid in full, I am happy with that, most would charge interest, after this long, but I just want what I paid and be done with this. I will post here as payments are sent. I understand anyone having trouble coming up with this much money at one time, as things are tight for everyone right now, but as with any debt, some type of payment is necesary. Once this is paid in full, I would be happy to post that here. I have no problem with Laura as a person, but this is fraud and as advised by my attorney it is against the law in any state for someone to keep your money.

As of today 12/6/2007. Laura has informed me that she has sent me $200 by money order. I told her from the very beginning that if she would just make payments to me, that would be fine, but I had to see that an attempt was being made to pay me my money. As long as these payments come monthly until this is paid in full, I am happy with that, most would charge interest, after this long, but I just want what I paid and be done with this. I will post here as payments are sent. I understand anyone having trouble coming up with this much money at one time, as things are tight for everyone right now, but as with any debt, some type of payment is necesary. Once this is paid in full, I would be happy to post that here. I have no problem with Laura as a person, but this is fraud and as advised by my attorney it is against the law in any state for someone to keep your money.

As of today 12/6/2007. Laura has informed me that she has sent me $200 by money order. I told her from the very beginning that if she would just make payments to me, that would be fine, but I had to see that an attempt was being made to pay me my money. As long as these payments come monthly until this is paid in full, I am happy with that, most would charge interest, after this long, but I just want what I paid and be done with this. I will post here as payments are sent. I understand anyone having trouble coming up with this much money at one time, as things are tight for everyone right now, but as with any debt, some type of payment is necesary. Once this is paid in full, I would be happy to post that here. I have no problem with Laura as a person, but this is fraud and as advised by my attorney it is against the law in any state for someone to keep your money.