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Complaint Review: Leanlifepm

Leanlifepm sent me pills I didn't order. And charged my credit card under a different name ripoff Ontairo California *EDitor's Suggestions on how to get your money back into your bank account!

  • Reported By:
    Navarre Ohio
  • Submitted:
    Thu, April 06, 2006
  • Updated:
    Fri, May 26, 2006

I ordered a free trial of diet pills. Only to pay postage of 1.99. A few weeks later got another package of pills 2 bottles. I didn't order them. I sent them back. Only to learn later they credited my card. They didn't even use the name they said they would under the billing. I told them not to send anymore. Now I'm worried they may still send me more and bill my credit card.

Annette
Navarre, Ohio
U.S.A.

EDitor's Suggestions on how to get your money back!

HERE IS WHAT RIP-OFF REPORT SUGGESTS YOU DO:

Go to your bank within 60 days of the charge, or as soon as you know about the charge, don't delay, and tell them that there has been fraudulent activity within your account. Explain that you wish to file a dispute, and demand that they assist you in accordance with Federal Regulation E.

According to the majority of victims interviewed by Rip-off Report, those who immediately called their banks to dispute the charges did not get very far. Many victims got the following responses from their banks: we could not do anything for you or you waited too long; it has been more than 60 days.

If the bank is says that you have waited too long, explain to them how you called their 800 number as soon as the charges were found, and were told by the bank that nothing could be done. Remind the bank that they failed to assist you properly at the 800 #, and instead, provided you with an inadequate explanation of your right to dispute. Tell the bank that it's their fault time has expired, and since they gave you the wrong info to begin with, they will just have to deal with it, take the loss and reverse the charges.

Tell them the truth; this was unauthorized and your account was NOT to be charged! Keep emphasizing how you never authorized anything! Direct them to the hundreds of victims reports that were filed on Rip-off Report.com. And if you're at the bank, walk them over to their computer and make them go to this site! If you are on the phone with them, tell them you will wait while they access this site! Either way, be persistent!

DO NOT TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER!

Let them know nicely, that you were advised to Report them (the Bank) and this situation to the Banking Commission in your state. Since each state has a different name for the agency/controller over banks, find that name before you call or get to the bank so you can throw it in their face. The more knowledgeable you appear to be, the further you will get.

And just continue to demand the Federal Regulation E form! The bank CAN, MUST and WILL reverse the charge! But, you must be persistent; ask to speak to the supervisor or the area manager for all the branches in the state.

Let the bank personnel know you are meeting with the media later in the day, that you would much rather they do the right thing (as most other banks have) by looking at the complaints and immediately reversing the charge(s) to your account; no matter how long ago it was. Be sure to call the Media if necessary so you are telling the truth.

If you have to, be loud (but nice) in front of other customers. If you are just calling by phone, the above tactics should still work. The bank can easily fax or mail to you the Federal Regulation E dispute form.

CHARGES TO YOUR CREDIT CARD

If the charge was to your credit card (not debit card, check card, or checking account), contact the credit card company as soon as possible to request a dispute form. Consumers usually have a little longer to dispute fraudulent credit card charges (up to 6 months), but it is better to act right away. In this type of situation, credit card disputes are usually successful since fraudulent companies often won't contest the disputed charge. In rare cases, credit card companies will review disputes, but refuse to reverse the charges. If this occurs, complain to a manager and let them know you will be filing a report here.

Remember Don't let them get away with it! Make sure they make the Rip-off Report .. The more Reports filed on a Company or individual, the more likely it is that the authorities, media and attorneys will want to take action.

And good luck Let us know how you do!

ED Magedson Founder, Rip-off Report.com & Author of www.ripoffrevenge.com
EDitor@RipoffReport.com
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www.ripoffreport.com

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4 Updates & Rebuttals


Cindy

Sacramento,
California,
U.S.A.

Time for Joey Gieoli to Do Prison Time!!

#5Consumer Comment

Fri, May 26, 2006

Holly, I understand your frustration. I have printed out hundreds on posts by people that have been ripped off by this company and sent them to the CA Attorney General, FBI, FTC, IRS, and many news stations.

I don't want Joey just shut down, to go and start anew. I cannot sleep until he is prosecuted for robbery or whatever and spends his nights in prison.

I too have been ripped off by this company. They keep debiting my account and I had to cancel my card. I am doing research on this company. I do not want them "just" shut down. I want Joseph Gieoli arrested. Please help me and make calls.
He is stealing from people's bank accts. I have proof that I cancelled on 3/1/06, yet keep getting charged $115.15. Twice in May!!

NovaPointe LLC
#200206910112
Joseph Gieoli = Agent for Service of Process (Sue him!)
2060 E. Francis St.
Ontario, CA 91761

Phone # 1-800-566-0959
Fax # 909-947-3653

AKA Skyfission LLC
#200207410146
10808 Foothill Blvd.
Rancho Cucamonga, CA 91730

Joseph's home address may be
13438 Redwood Dr. #160-440
Rancho Cucamonga, CA 91739

Ontario Police Dept. = 909-988-6481
WE HAVE PROBABLE CAUSE FOR AN ARREST


Federal Trade Commission
ftc.gov/ftc/consumer.htm

FBI
www.ic3.gov

California Attorney General's Office
ag.ca.gov/consumers/general.htm


This is where Joe Gioeli is registered
CA Sec. of State

Mailing Address:
Secretary of State
Document Filing Support Unit
P.O. Box 944228
Sacramento, CA 94244-2280

Phone Number:
(916) 657-5448

Since this guy has no conscience about screwing
the public, I'll bet he screws on his taxes too!
How bout suggesting an audit on him?

irs.gov

ftb.ca.gov

boe.ca.gov
The above is where sales taxes are to be paid
and yes they DO AUDITS!


Holly

Chandler,
Arizona,
U.S.A.

These guys have more names than...

#5UPDATE EX-employee responds

Sat, April 08, 2006

These scammers have been operating business under the following names:

LeanLifePM
Night Time Fat Burner
JAB Ventures
BurnFat2
Hoodia4Free
BCC Labs
LeanLookRX
Meduce Enterprises

They use Novapointe/Skyfission, located in California, as their fulfillment center. Read through some of the posts, and you will find NovaPoint is also the center for White Overnite, which has become the next big scam and is identical to this one.

I was able to get them shut down in January, but unfortunately these guys know the system. They just get a new tax id, rename the business, and get a new bank account until that bank is out thousands of dollars too. Their business address is in Utah, the fraud capitol of the world for merchants (don't believe me, John Beck's operation is based their too). Their websites even get shut down for a week or two, and then they're up and running again.

Banks are willing to sign merchants like this one due to the heavy financials they are able to provide. They fail to inform the bank that they have been blacklisted everywhere else for fraud and owe hundreds of thousands to other institutions for unpaid chargebacks.

Although their so called policy is on the websites, it is not displayed to customers who are taking surveys, or trying to obtain a gift card or Ipod. This is where the deception comes in. While everyone needs to adhere to the rule "if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is", these guys are in the business to scam people out of their money, month after month, (or should I say every 3 months Jason?). These guys know they will only be around 2-3 months before another bank closes their account. And they don't care because there's always another one waiting in the wings to take them on.

At this point I am so sick of tracking these guys, I don't know whether to keep up with it or give up. If anyone has a contact with somebody who can do something about these scammers, please respond. Any info would be appreciated.


Annette

Navarre,
Ohio,
U.S.A.

different name

#5Author of original report

Fri, April 07, 2006

The name the company used was leanlife. They said it would be billed as burnfat2/hoodia. As far as I am concerned they breeched the terms right there.


Holly

Chandler,
Arizona,
U.S.A.

What name?

#5Consumer Comment

Thu, April 06, 2006

What name did they bill you under? Was is BCC Labs or Hoodia for Free? Please respond.

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