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LL Bean Surrounded by bosses, while thinking I might kick the bucket. Internet
Tonight at work I was having chest pains and wanted to go to the ER to be checked out. I told my work leader this and she told her supervisor who told the receptionist. My supervisor told me it was company policy to call an ambulance in such situations (prolly to protect the companies a*s). I explained that I had had this pain in my chest for years and it was not abnormal for me to have plus I lived thirty seconds down the road. I promised I would call them in 2 minutes when I got there.
I did not tell him the real reason I wanted to drive home because I felt it was none of his business, but the reason was simple... if I was going to have something happen I would not choose to have it happen at LLBean. I would rather be with my home with my girl if something bad was about to happen. As far as I know, it's not illegal to drive while you have chest pains.
I pleaded with them to not humiliate me by having an ambulance come and cause a big scene. I argued with this one boss for a bit and began to try and explain that it was ultimately my choice to go home if I wanted to. A Medical woman showed up and began to try and talk me into agreeing to allow an ambulance to come. I told them no multiple times.
The entire time I'm arguing with these people my heart is beginning to race faster and I'm getting sweaty and frustrated. My back is against the reception area leaving me no way to move backward.
Another Medical person shows up and he continues on the same path as the other two. I again say no ambulance and argue with all of them. Me vs. everyone.
A fourth person shows up. There may have actually of been five people but I'm just saying four since I can not recall exactly since by this time I was literally shaking due to my worrying about my heart, the fact that I was surrounded with no way out and that I'm trying to defend my point to 4 or five people.
The fourth or possible fifth person that showed up was a woman supervisor. This is the part that bothers me. She began to try and explain to me that it was the right thing to do, and that she couldnt let me drive home. I pleaded with her telling her that I was shaking and my heart was racing and it was basically because they wouldn't let me make my own choice and go home. I explained that she didnt care about my safety since she wouldn't just drop it. She argued that she was doing the right thing. I told her I disagreed and that I could no longer trust my supervisors with such information again.
I was so afraid that I was going to have a heart attack right there and then due to my high heart rate, that I gave in and said "fine call an ambulance" in a defeated and clearly highly irritated tone. I had somehow been convinced that I had no choice, I think due to my being so upset. I was in a far worse condition at this point then I was before I ever told anyone. If I had of had a heart attack it would have been because I had at least four people all standing around me with no place for me to go! All I wanted to do was leave but, I felt at this point that this was no longer an option and that I was no longer a free citizen of the United States.
Funny thing was she didn't stop arguing with me about wether or not she was doing a moral thing even though I had agreed to the ambulance coming. We continued to argue for another 45 seconds or so before I realized that there was no need of it and I looked her dead in the eyes and said "I'm done with this". She said "ok" and it ended.
Something similar to this happened to me before with police officers surrounding me and bullying me, while they broke the law knowing there were no witnesses. I think this had an effect on my reaction last night with my supervisors and the medical team.
I feel like she could have offered to drive me home or something of this nature if she really wanted to do the right thing. I think she should be ashamed of herself for trying to protect her job by making me call an ambulance instead of letting me exercise my right as a human being and be with my girl whom I really would rather spend my last moments with (if something bad had happened god forbid). Also for continuing a behavior that was clearly causing me stress even after getting exactly what she wanted and for not ever giving me any choice to do anything except what company protocol.
In my mind its just an immoral thing to do to someone in that type of situation. In the end I had an ambulance come and they checked me out and I was ok. People knew that the ambulance was coming for me which was one of the things I was trying to avoid. She had no right IMO, and the other supervisor should have stepped in and stopped her from continuing to cause me stress.
I went to the ER after on my own with my girl and had tests run. I'm ok:)
4 Updates & Rebuttals
Onexius
N Yarmouth,Maine,
United States of America
Thanks.
#5Author of original report
Sat, December 03, 2011
Def. A real rant. There's a couple things I left out on purpose because I didn't tell my supervisors these things either and I wanted to make my point in the same manner I did to them. I appreciate all the input, it's very humbling, and I must say I finally see the point they were trying to make to me. Yes I'm an idiot but more so I'm very selfish. It's an issue I have. I'd elaborate more and defend myself but I don't see the point, I got everything I need from you guys already:) I'm going to apologize tonight for being such a tool, and remember to pause when being confronted by a group of people. Thanks for the real talk, you probably (Jesus Christ, really?) will never know how much it means to me.
Flynrider
Phoenix,Arizona,
USA
You are an idiot.
#5Consumer Comment
Sat, December 03, 2011
" As far as I know, it's not illegal to drive while you have chest pains. "
Yes. Most states have laws on the books that prevent your driving if you could become incapacitated. Let's not even mention common sense.
I've seen the aftermath of a few accidents where drivers became incapacitated. They are not pretty. Suppose you were on your way home and took out a crowd of people at a bus stop. Would that bother your conscience, or are your needs more important than anyone else's?
I can't believe someone would post such a ridiculous rant. I'm half convinced it has to be a joke.
Robert
Irvine,California,
U.S.A.
If
#5Consumer Comment
Fri, December 02, 2011
If this is some sort of joke or fake report it is in very bad taste. So figuring that you are being truthful in what you are saying there are really a few words that sum this up..Are you really this STUPID.
You tell your employer that you are having chest pains and wanted to go to the ER. But think you are okay enough to drive home. Where the reason you wanted to go home was because just in case these were your last hours on earth you wanted to be at home with your girl.
Honestly this sounds like someone who just wanted to take a few hours off of work.
Of course they could have driven you to the ER directly, but unless they have all of the medical equipment that an Ambulance has, the Ambulance would still be the most logical choice.
As far as I know, it's not illegal to drive while you have chest pains.
- Actually it could be. Because you are expected to be able to keep control of your vehicle. If you have Chest Pains that MAY be a heart attack. Since you knew of this condition AND still chose to drive. If something happens while driving it would be very likely that(if you survived) you could find yourself brought up on criminal charges for your negligence.
Then forgetting about the legal, you also talk about morals. What IF you did have a heart attack while driving home. What if as a result you crashed into another car or ran over a pedestrian. Then as a result of this those people were seriously injured or died.
Where are your morals?
Ramjet
Somewhere,Michigan,
U.S.A.
I don't agree
#5Consumer Comment
Fri, December 02, 2011
If you feel like may have, or are having, a heart attack at work, your employer would obviously get medical care ASAP, which they were trying to do before you made a fool of yourself.
What if they had just let you try to drive home, you had a heart attack on the way and caused an accident, maybe even killing someone.
You can be certain the employer would have been blamed for not getting help for you and letting you drive away. They may even have been sued for their lack of action.
They did the right thing, it's good you are OK but you were being a jerk. I applaud their action and would have expected my employers would have done the same thing.
Is prolly a word?