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Lonnie And Catherine Woods, MOBULLS.com Are Scammers and Lairs West Plains Missouri
Please be careful when you buy anything from this people.
Esxpecally when it comes to thier Clumber Spaniles.
They are scammers and lairs.They have a very bad contagious disease on their land and refuses to face the facts and trys to blame it off on other peoples fault.
They have tried to scam othere before out of money and sell sick puppies
I drove 12 hours to pick up my puppy only to find out that they wouldnt even let me on their land to see where my puppy had been kept this whole time. Now I can see that they had somthing to hide
At 1st I thought that the puppy was underweight but went ahead and got him since I had already put a deposit down on him. My dog started itching and coughing
It had the manage and kennel cough. Not only that it had to be at the vets office for a week Full of Hookworms and Cocidia
They wasnt willing to help out at all with Vet bills nor did they try. They was very rude and heartless. Try to blame it off on me
$1700.00 later in vet bills he is still not over his problems but well on his way .I would hate to see what would have happen to him if he would have had to stay in this puppy mill.
Dont buy from Lonnie and Cathrerine Woods unless you want problems out of them
Again please do your research to find out what kind of people that you are truely dealing with.
Trish
Omaha, Nebraska
U.S.A.
15 Updates & Rebuttals
Pissed Off In Kansas
Baldwin,Kansas,
U.S.A.
Nice try Codi
#16Consumer Comment
Sun, July 27, 2008
MoBulls is a reputable breeder This report about Mo bulls Was filled from Codi I would recognize his awful use of the english language any where he is an in bred idiot running a puppy mill. If he threatens you call his probation officer & get him picked up for threat of violence. If you want to join the fight against these scum bags and see to it they never breed a sick puppy again please contact us. mobulls or Brian reece & nichols Premier realty Baldwin city ks youll find us on the web if you look.
Cat
West Plains,Missouri,
U.S.A.
TRISH FROM OMAHA, OR WHOEVER YOU ARE, WAITING TO SEND YOU A 200% REFUND, PLEASE RESPOND!!!!!
#16REBUTTAL Individual responds
Thu, March 13, 2008
I am still waiting on "Trish from Omaha" to send the requested documents so I may issue a 200% refund plus all vet bills. To send this refund I need the signed contract, the dogs AKC registration papers, the microchip number and a copy of all vet bills. The money is ready and waiting!
Why won't you respond to my pleas? If I did indeed rip you off are you not interested in getting all your money back? My guarantee clearly states that I offer a 10 day guarantee against ALL communicable diseases! I am prepared to honor that guarantee and IF you do indeed have a puppy from me you do have a signed contract! I release NO puppy without a contract!
OOPS! I forgot, this is a false report filed by "the kennel in Lebanon". I did not sell you or anyone else in Omaha a puppy.
Let it be known that MoBulls did not sell a puppy this person or anyone else in Nebraska or Washington. I guarantee my puppies 100%. This report was filed as an attempt to "teach me a lesson" about reporting other unethical breeders. I did indeed buy a diseased dog from Christi Harmon and am willing to share my experience and pictures with anyone who is interested. In fact if any reader is interested in FACTS please do a search on this website for a Christi Harmon or Double C Kennels.
Owner
Lebanon,Missouri,
U.S.A.
Sometimes the truth hurts
#16Consumer Comment
Tue, March 11, 2008
Sometimes the truth hurts
If I would have wrote this I would be more than happy to admit to this
I think that it is funny
What goes around comes around
Debbie you really need to get a life
You are not hurting me in anyway nor will you ever
Go and get you some mental help
That would be the best thing for you
Trust me I pray for you everynight
Steelers Rock In Pa
Pittsburgh,Pennsylvania,
U.S.A.
CHRISTI DID WRITE THIS SLANDEROUS AND UNTRUE REPORT
#16Consumer Comment
Mon, March 10, 2008
Readers, please look at Christi's responses to this report. Owner, Lebanon MO. Please note the Red identifier on the right hand side. If the Owner - person reported writes the rebuttal the red identifier will say Owner. An individual who writes a rebuttal and is making a comment - such as myself - the red identifier will say Consumer Comment. Someone with a Consumer Suggestion writes - the red identifier will say Consumer Suggestion, etc.
When the person who wrote the original report, in this instance Christi, updates their report -- and only the person who originally wrote the report can update the report --the red identifier will say Author.
What does the red identifier say on Christi's updates? AUTHOR
That is proof that she authored this slanderous, malicious and untrue report. That is not only depraved, it is criminal.
Put the fork in Christi - - you're done!
Steelers Rock In Pa
Pittsburgh,Pennsylvania,
U.S.A.
Christi Harmon
#16Consumer Comment
Sun, March 09, 2008
This is Debbie from Pittsburgh. Christi you have threatened to hire an attorney and see me in Pittsburgh for months. I have not heard anything from your attorney or Paula's attorney husband. I have not received any phone calls or emails from your happy customers or Paula. You have stated that Paula has tried to call me. I have caller ID and also my phone calls are monitored by the phone company. As stated in comments I have made here, I do have an attorney and all I am waiting for is the Attorney General of Missouri's final decision on whether his office will pursue my complaint.
I have mailed a follow up letter to the Attorney General after receiving a copy of your response. Your response was received by the Attorney General's Office on January 31, 2008 after attempts by the Attorney General's office to get a response to my original complaint. My original complaint was filed with the Attorney General's Office on August 17, 2007.
I have posted my letter to the Attorney General's Office and anyone who would like a copy of the letter and all Exhibits sent with the letter is asked to contact me. My phone number is (((ROR redacted))). If you receive my voice mail, please leave a message with your name and an email address where I can send the evidence.
I would love to see your proof of slander and your evidence. I have requested numerous times for both your proof and evidence and have never received either.
I have stated nothing but the facts of my dealings with you regarding my purchase of a Clumber Spaniel puppy from you in July 2007. I am more than willing to share my proof and evidence to anyone requesting them. I have never lied, made up reviews or been malicious. All I have done is, in your words Christi, got up off my fat butt and tried to do something.
CLICK here to see why Rip-off Report, as a matter of policy, deleted either a phone number, link or e-mail address from this Report.
Steelers Rock In Pa
Pittsburgh,Pennsylvania,
U.S.A.
Christi Harmon
#16Consumer Comment
Sun, March 09, 2008
This is Debbie from Pittsburgh. Christi you have threatened to hire an attorney and see me in Pittsburgh for months. I have not heard anything from your attorney or Paula's attorney husband. I have not received any phone calls or emails from your happy customers or Paula. You have stated that Paula has tried to call me. I have caller ID and also my phone calls are monitored by the phone company. As stated in comments I have made here, I do have an attorney and all I am waiting for is the Attorney General of Missouri's final decision on whether his office will pursue my complaint.
I have mailed a follow up letter to the Attorney General after receiving a copy of your response. Your response was received by the Attorney General's Office on January 31, 2008 after attempts by the Attorney General's office to get a response to my original complaint. My original complaint was filed with the Attorney General's Office on August 17, 2007.
I have posted my letter to the Attorney General's Office and anyone who would like a copy of the letter and all Exhibits sent with the letter is asked to contact me. My phone number is (((ROR redacted))). If you receive my voice mail, please leave a message with your name and an email address where I can send the evidence.
I would love to see your proof of slander and your evidence. I have requested numerous times for both your proof and evidence and have never received either.
I have stated nothing but the facts of my dealings with you regarding my purchase of a Clumber Spaniel puppy from you in July 2007. I am more than willing to share my proof and evidence to anyone requesting them. I have never lied, made up reviews or been malicious. All I have done is, in your words Christi, got up off my fat butt and tried to do something.
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Steelers Rock In Pa
Pittsburgh,Pennsylvania,
U.S.A.
Christi Harmon
#16Consumer Comment
Sun, March 09, 2008
This is Debbie from Pittsburgh. Christi you have threatened to hire an attorney and see me in Pittsburgh for months. I have not heard anything from your attorney or Paula's attorney husband. I have not received any phone calls or emails from your happy customers or Paula. You have stated that Paula has tried to call me. I have caller ID and also my phone calls are monitored by the phone company. As stated in comments I have made here, I do have an attorney and all I am waiting for is the Attorney General of Missouri's final decision on whether his office will pursue my complaint.
I have mailed a follow up letter to the Attorney General after receiving a copy of your response. Your response was received by the Attorney General's Office on January 31, 2008 after attempts by the Attorney General's office to get a response to my original complaint. My original complaint was filed with the Attorney General's Office on August 17, 2007.
I have posted my letter to the Attorney General's Office and anyone who would like a copy of the letter and all Exhibits sent with the letter is asked to contact me. My phone number is (((ROR redacted))). If you receive my voice mail, please leave a message with your name and an email address where I can send the evidence.
I would love to see your proof of slander and your evidence. I have requested numerous times for both your proof and evidence and have never received either.
I have stated nothing but the facts of my dealings with you regarding my purchase of a Clumber Spaniel puppy from you in July 2007. I am more than willing to share my proof and evidence to anyone requesting them. I have never lied, made up reviews or been malicious. All I have done is, in your words Christi, got up off my fat butt and tried to do something.
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Steelers Rock In Pa
Pittsburgh,Pennsylvania,
U.S.A.
Christi Harmon
#16Consumer Comment
Sun, March 09, 2008
This is Debbie from Pittsburgh. Christi you have threatened to hire an attorney and see me in Pittsburgh for months. I have not heard anything from your attorney or Paula's attorney husband. I have not received any phone calls or emails from your happy customers or Paula. You have stated that Paula has tried to call me. I have caller ID and also my phone calls are monitored by the phone company. As stated in comments I have made here, I do have an attorney and all I am waiting for is the Attorney General of Missouri's final decision on whether his office will pursue my complaint.
I have mailed a follow up letter to the Attorney General after receiving a copy of your response. Your response was received by the Attorney General's Office on January 31, 2008 after attempts by the Attorney General's office to get a response to my original complaint. My original complaint was filed with the Attorney General's Office on August 17, 2007.
I have posted my letter to the Attorney General's Office and anyone who would like a copy of the letter and all Exhibits sent with the letter is asked to contact me. My phone number is (((ROR redacted))). If you receive my voice mail, please leave a message with your name and an email address where I can send the evidence.
I would love to see your proof of slander and your evidence. I have requested numerous times for both your proof and evidence and have never received either.
I have stated nothing but the facts of my dealings with you regarding my purchase of a Clumber Spaniel puppy from you in July 2007. I am more than willing to share my proof and evidence to anyone requesting them. I have never lied, made up reviews or been malicious. All I have done is, in your words Christi, got up off my fat butt and tried to do something.
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Owner
Lebanon,Missouri,
U.S.A.
The woods are lairs and scammers
#16Author of original report
Sat, March 08, 2008
How did I find this report???
All you have to do is type in your name on google and this pulls up.
1st thing on there
That is how
I dont even have the time to play these games with you
I have vet statments and have had another person contact me saying that they are breeders and you tried this same thing with them.
You are a lair and I can prove this.
The truth will be known about you
And what goes around comes around
You have meet your match and I will not rest until people know the truth about you.
Dont blame me if you sell bad puppies
Blame yourself
You really shouldnt lie about others and maybe others wouldnt lie about you or so you say that are lieng
Cat
West Plains,Missouri,
U.S.A.
YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT CHRISTI!! YOU DID NOT BUY A DOG FROM ME! READERS PLEASE SCROLL DOWN PAGE!
#16REBUTTAL Owner of company
Sat, March 08, 2008
Christi, why are you responding to a report that was written by Trish from Omaha? Why did you even look at it? How did you know the report was here? How did you find it? If you didn't write it how else would you know about ti? Hmmmmmmm, makes me wonder?
Did you write this report Christi? Did you slander me? Did you tell everyone in this report that you bought a sick puppy from me? Did you pose as Trish from Omaha? How else would you have known?
The truth is you nor Trish have bought a puppy from me, EVER. I already challenged you Christie, Trish from Omaha, and anonymous from Washington, IF you did buy (any of you 3) a puppy from me and it died I will refund you 200% plus your vet bills, all I need to send the cold cash back is a few simple items. I want the AKC number of that puppy and it's papers, I want the microchip number, the vet bills, and I want the contract, yeah, the contract that every buyer MUST sign and date BEFORE I release any puppy! PERIOD!
CHRISTI, YOU HAVE JUST GAVE YOURSELF AWAY!! And you don't even know it yet. When you replied to THIS fake report your reply shows at the top right hand corner that YOU were the original author of THIS original report! This means that you did in fact write this fake report and signed it as Trish from Omaha, Nebraska, .......because now that you have returned to this report you are now logged as the original author. NOW WHAT? How will expalin this?
You did write this report as Trish and you have lied about buying a puppy from me, at least posing as Trish. You also posted the other report about me, you posed as Anonymous from Seattle, saying you bought a puppy from me as a Christmas gift for the kids. Well as I said in that rebuttall, I didn't even have puppies 5 weeks prior to Christmas.
None the less Christi, you sold me a very sick animal. Maybe you didn't realize how sick he was, BUT, I told you the next day he was terminally ill and you didn't care, you took my money and thought you would get away with it. You did sell me an AKC regsitered male Clumber Spaniel, did you not? Was his AKC number SR31194602? Well? Did you sell me this dog on 9/25/2007? Did I write that check with your name on it? Did I cancel that check? Did I resend the money to you by way of PayPal on 10/04/2007, after you promised to refund my money if the dog tested positive, again! He tested positive 4 times Christi! What else did you need? I did everything I could Christi, the dog was in pain, eyes swelled in the sockets, bones grinding in pain, he could barely move, he wet and pottied on himself he was so weak. He was diseased when I got him, he DID not get Brucella Canis overnight and you know it.
Have I got your attention? Are you going to answer my questions? Now that this in front of John Q. Public let us tell them the story. I bet they already figured it out! You never intended to refund my money, now, remember how on the phone you called me a theif becuase I had your dog, I had your papers and I had your money, remember? Because I canceled my check you bounced some of your checks, you told me about $365.00 worth bounced, you said that in the e-mail that I forwarded to Puppyfind yesterday. You said your check to MFA feeds bounced, is that where you buy premium dogfood? So, I was scared as I read your husbands reports listed on courts.mo.gov/casenet.....3rd degree assault, original sentence of 6 months in the county hole, I think they waived that, now he has 2 years supervised probation
that is supervised by some counseling agency? This is why I resent the money via PayPal.
What the people want to hear are FACTS, not name calling, not false claims or reports. They want the facts. I am here to provide that. Let's continue....
Did you sell me the dog in question? Did I not call Paula the very next day (9/26/07) and tell her to call you as you were at the South West Auction Kennel Sale? You did call me back, remember? The dog was positve that day and he was positive the day he died. You couldn't have cared less. You said that Charlie was "just shy", you accused me of wanting to return him because he was shy. The dog wasn't SHY, HE WAS SICK! You cussed me and my husband on the phone on more than one occasion, but you know what, I suppose that is hearsay because I really can't prove it. I do however have many, many sheets of paper on my desk that prove that you did not care that YOUR dog had Brucellosis.
If I did not have proof how was I able to get Puppyfind to RELIST the review I left for you that you so conveniently took off, but...Puppyfind knows proof when they see it, so the review was relisted. How did I do that? With FACTS and PROOF!
You, Christy Harmon sold me a severely diseased dog, a dog that threatened the life of my kennel and my family, you knew Christi, I told you myself as did 2 vets and a state culture. What are you going to tell the public when the ask, "Why didn't you do the right thing? Why did you let a dog suffer? We thought you loved dogs, why did you endanger this family? Why would you purposely intend to destroy someone else's kennel, do you not love all dogs, even other peoples' dogs?"
You may slam me all you want but I will rest on the truth, and the public will get it. And besides, Debbie and I have both tried to tell you how to spell LIAR, you spell LAIR, and you did it in your fake reports! Gave yourself away, again.
Readers, this was a terrible ordeal, I never will forget the sadness of the day Charlie was put down, 16 days after we bought him, if anyone is interested I have pictures of the condition of this dog and his proper euthanising. Thanks for reading this, I am the owner of a small reputable kennel that was duped by the author of this report. Signed ** Catherine of MoBulls
Owner
Lebanon,Missouri,
U.S.A.
Woods are Lairs and Hateful people
#16Author of original report
Fri, March 07, 2008
I love how my name got brought up in your little ad
First of all dont go pointing your finger at me
If you sell sick puppies the truth will be seen
I have never gotten a dog from you
You people dress in your little dresses and act all churching when really you are evil people. Wish I would have known about this a few weeks ago.
you have not the nerve to say anything to my face only on the computer.
Second of all I went and spoke with a lawyer today about you and what I can get done.
Since I have proof that I have a Brucleous free kennel and always have and that all the Clumbers that I had was tested and came up Negative 2 times now that this is Slander. I dont care what it takes I will sue you for this. you are a lair
And to you Debbie one of these days you will grow up. Also the same with you.
If you was saying anything to make me look bad as a person not againt my business then that is called Slander as well .
Saying that I am "SIck" when you dont even know me
You are really a sad person and my heart goes out to you.
I think that you need to look in the mirror
One of these days I hope that you will grow up and enjoy life a little more.
Steelers Rock In Pa
Pittsburgh,Pennsylvania,
U.S.A.
CHRISTI HARMON - YOU ARE COMMITTING A CRIME!
#16Consumer Comment
Fri, March 07, 2008
This is Debbie from Pittsburgh. Please search HARMON in the search engine and you will see who wrote this report. I personally have come to know Catherine and I know she has never sold Christi Harmon or her mother, Paula Walters a Clumber Spaniel puppy. I bought a Clumber Spaniel puppy from Christi Harmon. You can see all the details in my report on here. Please review the rebuttals Christi Harmon leaves for me and others who have filed ripoffreports against her. You will see the consistencies in the misspelled words and the grammar. Christi, since you obviously love to call every one liars, you should learn how to spell it. Also, you sold me a Clumber Spaniel puppy. Learn how to spell Spaniel.
This report against a wonderful person is a combination of the reports filed against Christi Harmon and her mother. Both have sold puppies with kennel cough, parvo, mange and other intestinal diseases. They have sent buyers the wrong puppy. There are many, many people who have bought - Christi, pay attention here, it is not BOUGHTEN - dogs and puppies from Christi Harmon and Paula Walters that have had to be put down within days of receiving them.
Read the other reports and you will see what is going on here. When Catherine called me and told me about her experience with Charlie, her Clumber she bought from Christi Harmon, she expected repercussions from Christi Harmon because that is what Christi Harmon and her husband Cody Harmon do. They threaten people.
Lonnie and Catherine Woods are good, decent people. Take a look at Catherine's puppies and their guarantees. Christi Harmon and her mother, Paula Walters, lie, cheat and steal off innocent people and falsely advertise that they guarantee their puppies and never have had a puppy returned. That is because they won't take back the sick and dying puppies they ship to us and, after dealing with them, we wouldn't ever want our puppies who survived them, to go back to such barbarians.
What you did here Christi is a criminal offense. Since you like to use the word SLANDER so much, look it up. This report you filed is SLANDER. SLANDER is the act or offense of saying something false or malicious that damages somebody's reputation. You did not buy a puppy from Catherine and Lonnie.
You are sick Christi Harmon.
Cat
West Plains,Missouri,
U.S.A.
THIS REPORT WAS FILED BY CHRISTI HARMON, NOT TRISH FROM OMAHA
#16REBUTTAL Individual responds
Fri, March 07, 2008
Hello Christi Harmom, we all know you wrote this against me because I reported you to this website, the only difference is that I am telling the truth and you are not, you don't live in Nebraska. I have many facts that I would like to point out to everyone, including you. After I number a few facts I will leave an exact copy of my original complaint here as well. If anyone would like to check the validity of these claims against me do a search on this site for a Chrisiti Harmon, again you are not "Trish" from Omaha. Here are the facts:
1) I have only ever sold 8 Clumber puppies and none of them went to Nebraska.
2) Non of the buyers were named Trish.
3) Non have been picked up within 50 miles of my home.
4) Omaha is only a 7.5 hour drive from my home, not 12 hours as you say.
5) Christi, you have left many, many rebuttals on this website, you always accuse everyone else of being a LAIR, just letting you know it is spelled LIAR.
6) You sold me a 2 year old dog with Brucellosis, I haven't sold you a thing.
7) You live at xx Hwy 32 Lebanon, MO 65536 and you own Double C Ranch.
8)Funny, but this report that you have made against me originated from a computer in Lebanon, MO, yes Christi, you can check out internet initiation points, and this report did not come from Omaha, NE, are you going to tell the whole world that you drove from Omaha, NE to Lebanon, MO just so you could file a rip off report against me?
9) Today is 3/6/2008 and I see that yet another person, a Cassandra from New Hampshire has filed a report against you as she also recieved a sick puppy.
Here is my original report in it's entirety as follows, you may read it elsewhere on this site as well. Thanks, Catherine W
My story is very similar to the others but has a different twist. On Monday, Sept. 24, 2007 I was looking on Puppyfind at Clumber Spaniels, I noticed some Clumber puppies for sale in Lebanon, MO. The puppies belonged to Paula Walters. I e-mailed her and asked if she had any older adult males available, the next day I got an e-mail from Christi Harmon saying that she had an AKC registered male that was 2 years old that she wanted to sell. I called her and I made an appointment to meet her the next day, Sept. 25, 2007.
My husband and I met Christi at Paula Walters' home. We looked at the dog and concluded that he was very timid and reclused, he had patches of balding hair and he needed a bath but we decided that we could fix those things once we got him home, we were unable to really take a good look at him as he was huddled in the far end of the crate. Paula invited us to look at her kennel setup and it was neat and tidy even though it had been raining a lot.
Before leaving I personally asked Christi if she was going to guarantee the dog to be Brucellosis free, she said I am 1000% sure he is clean, I replied that was fine but....would she guarantee that? She said yes, that was heard by my husband, Paula Walters and Paula's husband. Later they would deny that I ever asked. I wrote Christi a check and we headed for home.
The next day, Sept. 26, 2007 Charlie had a 10am appointment with our vet, after a thorough exam and blood draw we noticed that Charlie had wet, oozed sores on his s*****m, a nasty eye infection, and had patches of missing hair, not to mention a putrid smell and fleas. My vet gave him a large dose of Naxcel and some other medications, when the blood tests were finished they informed us that he was a very hot positive for Brucella Canis. The test they performed was an in house card test.
I immediately tried to call Christi and was unable to reach her so I called Paula, Paula said that Christi was at the dog auction and she would give her the message. When Christi called me back she swore (literally) up and down that the test was wrong, I gave her then benefit of the doubt.
The very next morning, Sept. 27, 2007 we took Charlie to another vet, this time Charlie was given a 2 part test, 2ME-RSAT, both showed positive. This vet told me to either euthanise the dog immediately or return it to Christi, this vet also notified the Mo. State Veterinarian in Jefferson City.
Again, I called Christi, again she said the tests were wrong, her dog did not have Brucellosis. I asked her to take the dog back, she refused, she said that I just wanted to bring him back because he was shy, I told her that Brucellosis is contagious to people and what about my other dogs, I had to keep Charlie in isolation, this disease is highly contagious and he had been infected quite some time. She refused to take the dog back, she refused to refund my money, she told me to bring him to her vet and have blood drawn for a culture that would be done at Jefferson City. She refused to accept a blood draw done by my vet, she said that I could be drawing blood on some other dog besides hers, but I reminded her that this dog was micro-chipped and positive identity was certain. This was the same day I stopped payment on the check.
I had the blood draw done on Oct. 1, 2007. 8 days later, the report came back with a positve test. Christi still refused to take back the dog or refund my money, she said that if I put him down she would never give me back my money. When the culture came back positive I called her vet, her vet is familiar with my vet. Dr. Jenkins said he did not want to be involved with this and hung up.
In the meantime while we were waiting for the culture results Christi called a few times, on Oct. 4, 2007 she called me and was very irate, she had just discovered that the check had been stopped, she said that she had reported me to the local prosecutor and accused me of stealing her money and her dog plus the papers, I told her she was welcome to have her dog back at anytime! She threatened me and told me to have the money to her by 5pm that day or she would send the law out to pick me up for stealing.
She also stated that she was still 1000% positive that Charlie was clean, she said that I would be sorry for what I had done and that I was going to look really stupid when that culture came back negative, she assured me that if the test was positive that she would refund me the money. Later that evening my husband and I decided to pay her again by way of PayPal, based on what she had said earlier I hoped she was honest, unfortunately... she was not.
The first culture returned positive on Oct. 9, 2007. On Oct. 12, 2007 Charlie had another blood draw, this time 3 tubes were taken, 1 tube was submitted for another test along with blood from my other dogs, 1 tube remains at the vet clinic as it was set aside in case Christi wanted to test it herself, 1 tube is still in my possession, just in case! This is also the day that we put Charlie down. He was humanely euthanised and cremated. The entire time the dog was here he was in pain, his eyes were infected and swollen, his testicles were swollen and had wet sores, his joints ached and he barely moved, all caused by Brucella Canis.
At 1 point in time Christi had said that he must have had the disease when she bought him at the dog auction, but then she said that she had him tested at the sale and he was negative. When Charlie went through that sale , Feb. 3, 2007, he was negative, he was sold that day with several other Clumbers, all the Clumbers came from the same breeder, all were negative for Brucellosis,
I happened to find another buyer that was at the same sale, he bought 3 Clumbers from the same lot and they are all Brucellosis negative, in fact 2 of those dogs now live with me! They are NEGATIVE for Brucellosis. Charlie had to contract the disease at her kennel. Look at the facts, Feb. 2 he is negative, he goes home with Christi, Sept. 26 he is positive. As far as I know Charlie never left her place during that time.
I want everyone who reads this to understand how serious Brucellosis is! It is contagious to humans, it is very contagious to other animals, it is true that most Brucellosis infected dogs will abort the babies, but after some time a female dog can start whelping full term puppies again, and yes the babies are born infected! I tried to explain this to Christi, do the research yourself, Google it and learn about this disease, the numbers are growing in this country because breeders refuse to test (costs too much)!
What Christi did was wrong, I feel like she knew that dog was sick and saw her chance to recover some of her money, I owned the dog less than 16 hours and discovered it was sick. There are several things that bother me and the two biggest are: 1) Christi told me that Charlie had sired 2 litters of pups but 1 litter had died shortly after birth because the dam was a horrible mother, if Charlie sired even 1 litter then why did I receive his AKC puppy papers? You can't register a litter from a sires litter paper. 2) On Sept. 27 I called Christi and asked her to take the dog back, I told her to even keep the money I just wanted him off my place until he was proven clean. She said that she had no empty pen to put him in, I told her to put him back in the pen he had come from just 2 days prior, she said that she couldn't because the Newfies she bought at the auction (9/26/07) were in his old pen!!
In true Christi fashion I am sure she will rebuttal this report as well as she did the others, but the fact remains that she sold me a walking time bomb that was a health hazard to man and animal alike and she just didn't care. How can she love dogs and knowingly endanger mine? How can she live with the thought that she could have caused my family or myself to contract this disease? What if?
I begged her to do the right thing, and what of poor Charlie? He is the one that suffered, this dog was in pain, his eyes were swollen in the sockets, his joints ached and he itched constantly from the disease irritating his skin, he scratched huge sores all over his body, he literally clawed himself bloody, he cried and thumped all night long (scratching) while we waited for her to do the right thing. 16 days of torment was all I could take! I don't even care about the money, what about the dog!??? Let's wake up people!!
Cat
West Plains,Missouri,
U.S.A.
THIS REPORT WAS FILED BY CHRISTI HARMON, NOT TRISH FROM OMAHA
#16REBUTTAL Individual responds
Fri, March 07, 2008
Hello Christi Harmom, we all know you wrote this against me because I reported you to this website, the only difference is that I am telling the truth and you are not, you don't live in Nebraska. I have many facts that I would like to point out to everyone, including you. After I number a few facts I will leave an exact copy of my original complaint here as well. If anyone would like to check the validity of these claims against me do a search on this site for a Chrisiti Harmon, again you are not "Trish" from Omaha. Here are the facts:
1) I have only ever sold 8 Clumber puppies and none of them went to Nebraska.
2) Non of the buyers were named Trish.
3) Non have been picked up within 50 miles of my home.
4) Omaha is only a 7.5 hour drive from my home, not 12 hours as you say.
5) Christi, you have left many, many rebuttals on this website, you always accuse everyone else of being a LAIR, just letting you know it is spelled LIAR.
6) You sold me a 2 year old dog with Brucellosis, I haven't sold you a thing.
7) You live at xx Hwy 32 Lebanon, MO 65536 and you own Double C Ranch.
8)Funny, but this report that you have made against me originated from a computer in Lebanon, MO, yes Christi, you can check out internet initiation points, and this report did not come from Omaha, NE, are you going to tell the whole world that you drove from Omaha, NE to Lebanon, MO just so you could file a rip off report against me?
9) Today is 3/6/2008 and I see that yet another person, a Cassandra from New Hampshire has filed a report against you as she also recieved a sick puppy.
Here is my original report in it's entirety as follows, you may read it elsewhere on this site as well. Thanks, Catherine W
My story is very similar to the others but has a different twist. On Monday, Sept. 24, 2007 I was looking on Puppyfind at Clumber Spaniels, I noticed some Clumber puppies for sale in Lebanon, MO. The puppies belonged to Paula Walters. I e-mailed her and asked if she had any older adult males available, the next day I got an e-mail from Christi Harmon saying that she had an AKC registered male that was 2 years old that she wanted to sell. I called her and I made an appointment to meet her the next day, Sept. 25, 2007.
My husband and I met Christi at Paula Walters' home. We looked at the dog and concluded that he was very timid and reclused, he had patches of balding hair and he needed a bath but we decided that we could fix those things once we got him home, we were unable to really take a good look at him as he was huddled in the far end of the crate. Paula invited us to look at her kennel setup and it was neat and tidy even though it had been raining a lot.
Before leaving I personally asked Christi if she was going to guarantee the dog to be Brucellosis free, she said I am 1000% sure he is clean, I replied that was fine but....would she guarantee that? She said yes, that was heard by my husband, Paula Walters and Paula's husband. Later they would deny that I ever asked. I wrote Christi a check and we headed for home.
The next day, Sept. 26, 2007 Charlie had a 10am appointment with our vet, after a thorough exam and blood draw we noticed that Charlie had wet, oozed sores on his s*****m, a nasty eye infection, and had patches of missing hair, not to mention a putrid smell and fleas. My vet gave him a large dose of Naxcel and some other medications, when the blood tests were finished they informed us that he was a very hot positive for Brucella Canis. The test they performed was an in house card test.
I immediately tried to call Christi and was unable to reach her so I called Paula, Paula said that Christi was at the dog auction and she would give her the message. When Christi called me back she swore (literally) up and down that the test was wrong, I gave her then benefit of the doubt.
The very next morning, Sept. 27, 2007 we took Charlie to another vet, this time Charlie was given a 2 part test, 2ME-RSAT, both showed positive. This vet told me to either euthanise the dog immediately or return it to Christi, this vet also notified the Mo. State Veterinarian in Jefferson City.
Again, I called Christi, again she said the tests were wrong, her dog did not have Brucellosis. I asked her to take the dog back, she refused, she said that I just wanted to bring him back because he was shy, I told her that Brucellosis is contagious to people and what about my other dogs, I had to keep Charlie in isolation, this disease is highly contagious and he had been infected quite some time. She refused to take the dog back, she refused to refund my money, she told me to bring him to her vet and have blood drawn for a culture that would be done at Jefferson City. She refused to accept a blood draw done by my vet, she said that I could be drawing blood on some other dog besides hers, but I reminded her that this dog was micro-chipped and positive identity was certain. This was the same day I stopped payment on the check.
I had the blood draw done on Oct. 1, 2007. 8 days later, the report came back with a positve test. Christi still refused to take back the dog or refund my money, she said that if I put him down she would never give me back my money. When the culture came back positive I called her vet, her vet is familiar with my vet. Dr. Jenkins said he did not want to be involved with this and hung up.
In the meantime while we were waiting for the culture results Christi called a few times, on Oct. 4, 2007 she called me and was very irate, she had just discovered that the check had been stopped, she said that she had reported me to the local prosecutor and accused me of stealing her money and her dog plus the papers, I told her she was welcome to have her dog back at anytime! She threatened me and told me to have the money to her by 5pm that day or she would send the law out to pick me up for stealing.
She also stated that she was still 1000% positive that Charlie was clean, she said that I would be sorry for what I had done and that I was going to look really stupid when that culture came back negative, she assured me that if the test was positive that she would refund me the money. Later that evening my husband and I decided to pay her again by way of PayPal, based on what she had said earlier I hoped she was honest, unfortunately... she was not.
The first culture returned positive on Oct. 9, 2007. On Oct. 12, 2007 Charlie had another blood draw, this time 3 tubes were taken, 1 tube was submitted for another test along with blood from my other dogs, 1 tube remains at the vet clinic as it was set aside in case Christi wanted to test it herself, 1 tube is still in my possession, just in case! This is also the day that we put Charlie down. He was humanely euthanised and cremated. The entire time the dog was here he was in pain, his eyes were infected and swollen, his testicles were swollen and had wet sores, his joints ached and he barely moved, all caused by Brucella Canis.
At 1 point in time Christi had said that he must have had the disease when she bought him at the dog auction, but then she said that she had him tested at the sale and he was negative. When Charlie went through that sale , Feb. 3, 2007, he was negative, he was sold that day with several other Clumbers, all the Clumbers came from the same breeder, all were negative for Brucellosis,
I happened to find another buyer that was at the same sale, he bought 3 Clumbers from the same lot and they are all Brucellosis negative, in fact 2 of those dogs now live with me! They are NEGATIVE for Brucellosis. Charlie had to contract the disease at her kennel. Look at the facts, Feb. 2 he is negative, he goes home with Christi, Sept. 26 he is positive. As far as I know Charlie never left her place during that time.
I want everyone who reads this to understand how serious Brucellosis is! It is contagious to humans, it is very contagious to other animals, it is true that most Brucellosis infected dogs will abort the babies, but after some time a female dog can start whelping full term puppies again, and yes the babies are born infected! I tried to explain this to Christi, do the research yourself, Google it and learn about this disease, the numbers are growing in this country because breeders refuse to test (costs too much)!
What Christi did was wrong, I feel like she knew that dog was sick and saw her chance to recover some of her money, I owned the dog less than 16 hours and discovered it was sick. There are several things that bother me and the two biggest are: 1) Christi told me that Charlie had sired 2 litters of pups but 1 litter had died shortly after birth because the dam was a horrible mother, if Charlie sired even 1 litter then why did I receive his AKC puppy papers? You can't register a litter from a sires litter paper. 2) On Sept. 27 I called Christi and asked her to take the dog back, I told her to even keep the money I just wanted him off my place until he was proven clean. She said that she had no empty pen to put him in, I told her to put him back in the pen he had come from just 2 days prior, she said that she couldn't because the Newfies she bought at the auction (9/26/07) were in his old pen!!
In true Christi fashion I am sure she will rebuttal this report as well as she did the others, but the fact remains that she sold me a walking time bomb that was a health hazard to man and animal alike and she just didn't care. How can she love dogs and knowingly endanger mine? How can she live with the thought that she could have caused my family or myself to contract this disease? What if?
I begged her to do the right thing, and what of poor Charlie? He is the one that suffered, this dog was in pain, his eyes were swollen in the sockets, his joints ached and he itched constantly from the disease irritating his skin, he scratched huge sores all over his body, he literally clawed himself bloody, he cried and thumped all night long (scratching) while we waited for her to do the right thing. 16 days of torment was all I could take! I don't even care about the money, what about the dog!??? Let's wake up people!!
Cat
West Plains,Missouri,
U.S.A.
THIS REPORT WAS FILED BY CHRISTI HARMON, NOT TRISH FROM OMAHA
#16REBUTTAL Individual responds
Fri, March 07, 2008
Hello Christi Harmom, we all know you wrote this against me because I reported you to this website, the only difference is that I am telling the truth and you are not, you don't live in Nebraska. I have many facts that I would like to point out to everyone, including you. After I number a few facts I will leave an exact copy of my original complaint here as well. If anyone would like to check the validity of these claims against me do a search on this site for a Chrisiti Harmon, again you are not "Trish" from Omaha. Here are the facts:
1) I have only ever sold 8 Clumber puppies and none of them went to Nebraska.
2) Non of the buyers were named Trish.
3) Non have been picked up within 50 miles of my home.
4) Omaha is only a 7.5 hour drive from my home, not 12 hours as you say.
5) Christi, you have left many, many rebuttals on this website, you always accuse everyone else of being a LAIR, just letting you know it is spelled LIAR.
6) You sold me a 2 year old dog with Brucellosis, I haven't sold you a thing.
7) You live at xx Hwy 32 Lebanon, MO 65536 and you own Double C Ranch.
8)Funny, but this report that you have made against me originated from a computer in Lebanon, MO, yes Christi, you can check out internet initiation points, and this report did not come from Omaha, NE, are you going to tell the whole world that you drove from Omaha, NE to Lebanon, MO just so you could file a rip off report against me?
9) Today is 3/6/2008 and I see that yet another person, a Cassandra from New Hampshire has filed a report against you as she also recieved a sick puppy.
Here is my original report in it's entirety as follows, you may read it elsewhere on this site as well. Thanks, Catherine W
My story is very similar to the others but has a different twist. On Monday, Sept. 24, 2007 I was looking on Puppyfind at Clumber Spaniels, I noticed some Clumber puppies for sale in Lebanon, MO. The puppies belonged to Paula Walters. I e-mailed her and asked if she had any older adult males available, the next day I got an e-mail from Christi Harmon saying that she had an AKC registered male that was 2 years old that she wanted to sell. I called her and I made an appointment to meet her the next day, Sept. 25, 2007.
My husband and I met Christi at Paula Walters' home. We looked at the dog and concluded that he was very timid and reclused, he had patches of balding hair and he needed a bath but we decided that we could fix those things once we got him home, we were unable to really take a good look at him as he was huddled in the far end of the crate. Paula invited us to look at her kennel setup and it was neat and tidy even though it had been raining a lot.
Before leaving I personally asked Christi if she was going to guarantee the dog to be Brucellosis free, she said I am 1000% sure he is clean, I replied that was fine but....would she guarantee that? She said yes, that was heard by my husband, Paula Walters and Paula's husband. Later they would deny that I ever asked. I wrote Christi a check and we headed for home.
The next day, Sept. 26, 2007 Charlie had a 10am appointment with our vet, after a thorough exam and blood draw we noticed that Charlie had wet, oozed sores on his s*****m, a nasty eye infection, and had patches of missing hair, not to mention a putrid smell and fleas. My vet gave him a large dose of Naxcel and some other medications, when the blood tests were finished they informed us that he was a very hot positive for Brucella Canis. The test they performed was an in house card test.
I immediately tried to call Christi and was unable to reach her so I called Paula, Paula said that Christi was at the dog auction and she would give her the message. When Christi called me back she swore (literally) up and down that the test was wrong, I gave her then benefit of the doubt.
The very next morning, Sept. 27, 2007 we took Charlie to another vet, this time Charlie was given a 2 part test, 2ME-RSAT, both showed positive. This vet told me to either euthanise the dog immediately or return it to Christi, this vet also notified the Mo. State Veterinarian in Jefferson City.
Again, I called Christi, again she said the tests were wrong, her dog did not have Brucellosis. I asked her to take the dog back, she refused, she said that I just wanted to bring him back because he was shy, I told her that Brucellosis is contagious to people and what about my other dogs, I had to keep Charlie in isolation, this disease is highly contagious and he had been infected quite some time. She refused to take the dog back, she refused to refund my money, she told me to bring him to her vet and have blood drawn for a culture that would be done at Jefferson City. She refused to accept a blood draw done by my vet, she said that I could be drawing blood on some other dog besides hers, but I reminded her that this dog was micro-chipped and positive identity was certain. This was the same day I stopped payment on the check.
I had the blood draw done on Oct. 1, 2007. 8 days later, the report came back with a positve test. Christi still refused to take back the dog or refund my money, she said that if I put him down she would never give me back my money. When the culture came back positive I called her vet, her vet is familiar with my vet. Dr. Jenkins said he did not want to be involved with this and hung up.
In the meantime while we were waiting for the culture results Christi called a few times, on Oct. 4, 2007 she called me and was very irate, she had just discovered that the check had been stopped, she said that she had reported me to the local prosecutor and accused me of stealing her money and her dog plus the papers, I told her she was welcome to have her dog back at anytime! She threatened me and told me to have the money to her by 5pm that day or she would send the law out to pick me up for stealing.
She also stated that she was still 1000% positive that Charlie was clean, she said that I would be sorry for what I had done and that I was going to look really stupid when that culture came back negative, she assured me that if the test was positive that she would refund me the money. Later that evening my husband and I decided to pay her again by way of PayPal, based on what she had said earlier I hoped she was honest, unfortunately... she was not.
The first culture returned positive on Oct. 9, 2007. On Oct. 12, 2007 Charlie had another blood draw, this time 3 tubes were taken, 1 tube was submitted for another test along with blood from my other dogs, 1 tube remains at the vet clinic as it was set aside in case Christi wanted to test it herself, 1 tube is still in my possession, just in case! This is also the day that we put Charlie down. He was humanely euthanised and cremated. The entire time the dog was here he was in pain, his eyes were infected and swollen, his testicles were swollen and had wet sores, his joints ached and he barely moved, all caused by Brucella Canis.
At 1 point in time Christi had said that he must have had the disease when she bought him at the dog auction, but then she said that she had him tested at the sale and he was negative. When Charlie went through that sale , Feb. 3, 2007, he was negative, he was sold that day with several other Clumbers, all the Clumbers came from the same breeder, all were negative for Brucellosis,
I happened to find another buyer that was at the same sale, he bought 3 Clumbers from the same lot and they are all Brucellosis negative, in fact 2 of those dogs now live with me! They are NEGATIVE for Brucellosis. Charlie had to contract the disease at her kennel. Look at the facts, Feb. 2 he is negative, he goes home with Christi, Sept. 26 he is positive. As far as I know Charlie never left her place during that time.
I want everyone who reads this to understand how serious Brucellosis is! It is contagious to humans, it is very contagious to other animals, it is true that most Brucellosis infected dogs will abort the babies, but after some time a female dog can start whelping full term puppies again, and yes the babies are born infected! I tried to explain this to Christi, do the research yourself, Google it and learn about this disease, the numbers are growing in this country because breeders refuse to test (costs too much)!
What Christi did was wrong, I feel like she knew that dog was sick and saw her chance to recover some of her money, I owned the dog less than 16 hours and discovered it was sick. There are several things that bother me and the two biggest are: 1) Christi told me that Charlie had sired 2 litters of pups but 1 litter had died shortly after birth because the dam was a horrible mother, if Charlie sired even 1 litter then why did I receive his AKC puppy papers? You can't register a litter from a sires litter paper. 2) On Sept. 27 I called Christi and asked her to take the dog back, I told her to even keep the money I just wanted him off my place until he was proven clean. She said that she had no empty pen to put him in, I told her to put him back in the pen he had come from just 2 days prior, she said that she couldn't because the Newfies she bought at the auction (9/26/07) were in his old pen!!
In true Christi fashion I am sure she will rebuttal this report as well as she did the others, but the fact remains that she sold me a walking time bomb that was a health hazard to man and animal alike and she just didn't care. How can she love dogs and knowingly endanger mine? How can she live with the thought that she could have caused my family or myself to contract this disease? What if?
I begged her to do the right thing, and what of poor Charlie? He is the one that suffered, this dog was in pain, his eyes were swollen in the sockets, his joints ached and he itched constantly from the disease irritating his skin, he scratched huge sores all over his body, he literally clawed himself bloody, he cried and thumped all night long (scratching) while we waited for her to do the right thing. 16 days of torment was all I could take! I don't even care about the money, what about the dog!??? Let's wake up people!!