Complaint Review: Loren Reder

I am Andrew Burd and the previous statements about me are 100% inaccurate and false. I have been in the Lead Generation business for over ten years and have an impeccable record.  I do business the right way, all the time. I am not even sure who this "Martin" person is. I have never done business with anyone named Martin in my ten years of internet advertising. I also haven't even been to 80% of the cities he listed, and his list of aliases is a joke. Ive never gone by any of those "aliases". The only name ive ever gone by is Andrew Burd. I am not even in the timeshare business, as this person claims. The only accurate thing in their post, is the picture of me. As for your "Loren Reder" post. You can clearly see Loren Reder say in another post that I am legitimate. She wrote that report without knowing all the details of my business, and then she wrote a retraction saying I am legitimate. I have never left any client hanging and never would.

This person says I never want to meet in person, which couldn't be more untrue. Ive met over 90% of my clients in person and have never said I wouldn't meet with a client. I prefer doing business face to face and will always meet with a client if possible.

To bring my family into this, crosses the line. I am in no way, shape, or form doing business with my family, so this Martin character must have never done business with me, since he knows nothing about me. He says im scamming from Virginia and Washington, but ive never even been to those 2 states in my entire life. I have never scammed anyone and obviously this report is fake since ive never done business with anyone named "Martin". Notice how "Martin" posted anonymously and did not even use his real name or his full name. Martin won't even use his real name, because this is a completely fake post.

I am very well known in the internet advertising industry and have dozens of industry contacts that can vouch for my reputation as an honest businessman that does business the right way.

I have every client sign a contract, because that is the right way to do business. Martin, if you are indeed real as you claim, then please post the contract we both signed. Please post any documents you have proving who you are and that we did business together. You obviously won't be able to because ive never done business with anyone named Martin. 

To anyone reading this, notice how Martin can't produce any document, email, contract or payment that he had with me. This proves Martin is a hoax.  

I do know that the person who is making this allegation is remaining anonymous, which says something.  There have been no formal or lawful inquiries, although I have contacted my attorney to investigate the liar behind this claim.  I am successful and driven and liked by many and I recognize that it brings people who are jealous and envious, especially in the internet world, where anyone can say anything anonymously.  I pride myself on my business ethics and this is taken personally.  I will absolutely get to the bottom of these anonymous fraudulent claims. If you have any questions please do not hesitate to contact me directly. Thank you

I find it very interesting that she says "No legitimate person charges you money to purchase their product and takes money out of your earnings."

I think this statement very clearly shows how educated (or not?) this person is. The word "purchase" implies an exchange of money for goods or services. 

Do you really think I would set up a business for you and train you for free? Show me ANY business that does not charge you money to get involved. Have you ever heard of mcdonalds, or subway? They charge $500k - $1 million for a mcdonalds or subway plus royalty fees. I guess you think they are a scam too, since they charge money for their product?

Like I said before, this isn't the first time that I politely declined to do business with someone and then they got mad. I do not do business with people that show questionable behavior from the start. This is the first time someone has ever tried to hijack my name and business. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to defend myself and my business. Unfortunately this is the internet and uneducated people can claim anything they want. Thank you for hearing my side to this.

This will be my last response to this report. Loren Reder, you will be hearing from my attorney.

I contacted Andrew Burd from Las Vegas NV about a “business” via craigslist.

I threatened him with a rip off report to expose his scams and he wrote one about me first, here:

http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Loren-Reder/internet/Loren-Reder-has-committed-identity-theft-Zionsville-Indiana-1195917

First off, he has the wrong Loren Reder. I don’t live in Indiana…

He also has no money for a lawyer, because I DEMANDED his lawyers info to contact me if he really wanted to try to challenge me, and he could not provide it.

The one who really needs criminal and civil charges pressed against him is Andrew himself. Read on and I’ll explain why!

What. An. IDIOT.

AND a scammer. If you’ve been scammed by Andrew Burd, I encourage you to respond to this rip off report with your experience.

All he’s doing is scamming craigslist selling fake “businesses.” My attorney has done extensive research on him.

My attorney also found he has ZERO assets. He claims to live this extravagant life but a simple asset check comes up with a fat zero. He only has a single personal bank account.

His address is a tiny 500 ish square foot studio. It’s clearly a rental. Why does such a rich person live in a studio in the desert? Vegas is for poor people to live nicely for cheap.

So onto the scam. Lets pick apart his messages. 

I am also launching my real estate software that I coded myself. It can make a few thousand a week and more if you hire employees. Id like
you to run both of my software programs and learn it so you can also hire/train/manage some cheap employees and have them run it too. I'm
looking for a few good people I can work with to make us both money daily. Let me know what you think. Thanks

THIS idiot can code? If this “business” is so great why don’t you grow it yourself? You claim to have all this money you yet you can’t even grow it yourself. Sounds like a real f*******idiot to me.

My skype is signatureandrew. The lowest price I can do is $5k to start and then $5k when you have earned $3,000 in revenue on the business.

His ad said $15,000 and he immediately went down to 5k.  Later he changed his mind and said it was still 15 grand but 5k up front. Oh wait…he has no assets. But, I'll get to that in a moment when I break-down WHAT exactly he's selling here (pirated software that he's stolen).

What is your email address. I will send you the contract and my wire info for the first $5k payment, then I will start setting up the business for you on your computer. It will take 3 days to set up, then another 3+ days for initial training.

Thanks

Andrew Burd

Okay. Lets see what this “contract” looks like.

http://i.imgur.com/ir9d1Wk.jpg

This sounds like it was written by a 5^th grader.

This isn’t a real business at all. No legitimate person charges you money to purchase their product and takes money out of your earnings.

So I’m going to tell you what Andrew is selling.

Andrew Burd is simply spamming craigslist emails with advertisments for auto insurance. Sadly he leaked in his video a company called Integrate.com on his screen, which ANY person on the planet can sign up for (I did it myself)…and get that ever so great $7 for email and zip code he was bragging about. He must not really be working with any “big companies” because honestly who in a professional world would give such scum the time of day?

He’s also using hijacked software. I put ads on craigslist myself and was lucky enough to get someone who he had sold before. I had my tech team analyze the “software.” Not a thing was coded by Andrew Burd…. there was a e-mail software called interspire which is commonly used by spammers and costs a measly $500. He can’t even afford to buy a fresh license he just steals it. You’re paying $15,000 for a STOLEN $500 product.

Another detail you may have missed in the video – His YEAR TO DATE earnings with Integrate.com was only $800. He’s only made $800 with them this whole year? Pretty interesting.

If his “business” is so great, why doesn’t he just HIRE EMPLOYEES AND MANAGE THEM HIMSELF?

If you would like to contact me about my experience, my email is(((REDACTED))). I will not hide like Andrew does.

I HIGHLY ENCOURAGE ANYONE WHO HAS BEEN SCAMMED BY MR. BURD TO CONTACT THE NEVADA DISTRICT ATTORNEY TO PURSUE WIRE FRAUD CHARGES

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First of all, thank you for giving me the opportunity to defend myself and my business that ive worked for over 10 years to build. I have several online companies that ive built and I do business with dozens of affiliate networks and companies. I am very well known in the internet advertising community. To date, this Loren Reder person (that ive never done business with) is the only person on the internet calling me a scammer. I have dozens of satisfied clients and hundreds of industry contacts that can vouch for myself and my reputation.

This Loren person is pretending to be me (committing identity theft) and harassing me and making false accusastions. This is why I posted the original rip off report. I wanted everyone to know this person is out there, stealing my identity and making false claims. I would advise anyone and everyone to avoid Loren Reder like the plague.

She even admitted in her rebuttal that she "put ads on craigslist myself and was lucky enough to get someone who he had sold before." What she didn't mention is that she copied and pasted my ads, and then re posted it to craigslist pretending to be myself and my company. She then tells people that I am some type of scammer. What kind of person does this to someone they have never done business with?

I have NEVER done any business with this person (thank god). Loren, this is a crime not only criminally, but civally as well. Its called identity theft and harassment and defamation. I have indeed hired an attorney to bring charges against you. Loren, you will be hearing from my attorney.

She does not know what she is talking about. She knows nothing about myself or my business and she has admitted here on ripoff report to committing identity theft against myself and my company. I have never done business with her, nor would I ever do business with someone that showed such questionable behavior in our email conversations. She is just mad that I politely declined to do business with her, after she showed very questionable behavior in her emails. Notice how she turns to derogatory name calling by calling me a "scammer" and "f**king idiot" and "sounds like it was written by a 5th grader", etc about someone shes never done business with and someone she knows nothing about. These are examples of the types of things she was saying to me in our initial emails and the reason why I started ignoring her emails for further information about working with me.

I do not just work with anyone willing to send me money. If I see red flags such as the ones I saw with Loren, then I politely decline to do business with the person. Very often they will come back at me with "your a scammer" etc, but in reality they know nothing about my business.

She filed for bankruptcy on april 17th, 2012. 

Here is her bankruptcy filing information.

Case: 12-04424-FJO-7 CH: 7

Filed: 04/17/2012
Name: Loren Patrick Reder
Address: (((redacted))) Zionsville, IN 46077 

Her email address: (((redacted)))

I am posting this information, so that others do not fall victim to this lunatic.