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  • Report:  #539393

Complaint Review: MAD PHOENIX TECHNOLOGIES

MAD PHOENIX TECHNOLOGIES - MAD PHOENIX - MAD PHOENIX TECH MAD PHOENIX TECH.COM TAKES UP TO 8 WEEKS TO GET A CHECK, YOU ARE ASKED TO BUY PRODUCT $100++EXPENSE TO WORK HERE ALPHARETTA, Georgia

  • Reported By:
    DONTGETRIPPEDOFFHERE!! — United States of America
  • Submitted:
    Tue, December 15, 2009
  • Updated:
    Sat, December 19, 2009

DOES THIS SOUND LIKE A SCAM TO YOU A PYRAMID OR A JOB? IT TAKES UP TO 8 WEEKS TO GET PAID A DIME. YOU ARE 'ASKED' TO SPEND YOUR MONEY BUYING THEIR PRODUCT PRIOR TO STARTING. YOU ARE 'ASKED' TO SPEND YOUR MONEY ADVERTISING THEIR 'OPPORTUNITY' OR JOB. YOU ARE ASKED TO SPEND YOUR MONEY WITHOUT REIMBURSEMENT INTRODUCING AND MEETING OTHERS TO REPEAT GETTING THEM TO BUY OR TAKE THE JOB TO NEIGHBORS FRIENDS FAMILY AND STRANGERS WHOMEVER YOU FIND. THE COMPANY SAYS THEY HAVE A BILLIONDOLLAR CORPORATION ON BOARD BUT OPERATES OUT OF A PERSONAL RESIDENCE. EMPLOYEES STAFF CONTRACTORS HAVE NOT YET BEEN PAID. IN A DOWN ECONOMY AND IN A STATE WHERE UNEMPLOYMENT FORECLOSURES ARE HIGHEST OF ALL EVERYWHERE YOU ARE TO RECRUIT OTHERS TO BUY AND 'TAKE THIS JOB' STATING JOIN IN OR BUY OUR PRODUCT $100++ AND YOU'LL BE PAID TO SELL TO OTHERS THE SAME THING. IF YOUR CREDIT IS GOOD YOU CAN FINANCE PART OF THIS COST AND PAY ABOUT HALF??? I HAVE SOLD MANY PRODUCTS WITH LEGITIMATE COMPANIES AND THEY NEVER ASKED ME TO OR SUGGESTED FIRMLY THAT I BUY THE PRODUCT AT ALL FOR A JOB. IF ANYTHING, THEY GAVE ME THE PRODUCT TO SAMPLE. IN FACT FOR A JOB I DIDN'T SPEND A CENT. THEY GAVE ME THE PRODUCT MAYBE A CAR, CERTAINLY MONEY FOR GAS FOR APPOINTMENTS IF I WORKED FROM HOME. OTHERWISE THEY GAVE ME A REALLY NICE OFFICE A PHONE AND SUPPLIES AND I DIDN'T DRIVE AROUND. I WASN'T ASKED TO SPEND MY MONEY BEFORE I WAS PAID...FOR A JOB??? OWNER STATES RATHER NOT ASK DAD, BILLIONAIRE (NOTE:$$$1,000,000,000.00.-according to him))  DAD-mind you-HE'S STATED-(hey, you judge the credibility here of the owner)FOR A LITTLE START UP FUNDS TO PAY ME (if i was smart enough? to take this "job"), OR GET AN OFFICE FOR JUST HIMSELF 'SON', EVEN AFTER WRKING HARD FOR HIM!.IT SEEMS HE'D RATHER GET MONEY FROM UNSUSPECTING FINANCIALLY DESPERATE?  AND FINANCIALLY NEEDY? INTERVIEWEES?-LOOKING FOR A JOB USING OUR FUNDS?FOR ADVERTISING,SALES,TRANSPORTATION & START UP COSTS? WOULD HE RATHER HAVE ME POSSIBLY OR YOU POSSIBLY WHO'S LIKELY NEVER EVEN SEEN A BILLIONAIRE EXCEPT ON TV FUND THIS PROJECT? WOULD HE'D RATHER SEE US WAIT UP TO 2 MONTHS FOR PAY ON OUR HARD WORK TO MAKE HIS FAMILY RICHER? OR JUST HIM THIS TIME?.. MLM'S MAKE YOU SPEND YOUR MONEY, RECRUIT YOUR FRIENDS, GET THEM TO PAY TOO, & PRAY AND HOPE FOR SUCCESS AND WAIT TO GET PAID IN GENERAL. NOT CALLING THIS A SCAM FOR ITS SEEMING DECEPTIVE PRACTICES OR LABELING. JUST STATING THE FACTS AS I KNOW THEM AND HAVE BEEN TOLD. YOU DECIDE. MY 1ST RECOMMENDATION DON'T WORK HERE AT ALL. MY 2ND IF YOU DO REFUSE TO SPEND ONE PENNY UNLESS YOU ARE PAID FIRST-LIKE EVRY OTHER JOB YOU'VE EVER HAD IN YOUR LIFE. YOU DECIDE. DOES IT SOUND LIKE A JOB TO YOU???

4 Updates & Rebuttals


Matthew McCloy

USA

Louis Gibson Court Dockett

#5REBUTTAL Owner of company

Fri, December 18, 2009

HOW DOES THIS FEEL!!!




COURT OF COMMON PLEAS OF MONTGOMERY COUNTY


DOCKET


Docket Number: CP-46-CR-0007444-2009


Court Case


CRIMINAL DOCKET


Page 1 of 4


Commonwealth of Pennsylvania


v.


Louis Gibson


CASE INFORMATION


Cross Court Docket Nos: CR-0000410-09


Judge Assigned: Tressler, Paul W. Date Filed: 10/06/2009 Initiation Date: 07/29/2009


OTN: K7534833 Lower Court Docket No: CR-0000410-09


Initial Issuing Authority: William I Maruszczak Final Issuing Authority: William I Maruszczak


Arresting Agency: W Conshohocken Police Dept Arresting Officer: Fulginiti, Michael John


Case Local Number Type(s) Case Local Number(s)


STATUS INFORMATION


Case Status: Active Status Date Processing Status Complaint Date: 07/29/2009


12/14/2009 Awaiting ARD Court


10/06/2009 Awaiting Formal Arraignment


10/06/2009 Awaiting Filing of Information


10/06/2009 Awaiting Formal Arraignment


CALENDAR EVENTS


Schedule


Status


Start Room Judge Name


Time


Schedule


Start Date


Case Calendar Event


Type


Formal Arraignment 12/02/2009 9:30 am Video Room #2 Judge Thomas C. Branca Scheduled


ARD Court 12/22/2009 12:30 pm Courtroom F Judge William J. Furber Jr. Scheduled


DEFENDANT INFORMATION


Date Of Birth: 01/02/1976 City/State/Zip: W Conshohocken, PA 19428


CASE PARTICIPANTS


Participant Type Name


Defendant Gibson, Louis


Printed: 12/18/2009


Recent entries made in the court filing offices may not be immediately reflected on these docket sheets. Neither the courts of the Unified Judicial


System of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania nor the Administrative Office of Pennsylvania Courts assume any liability for inaccurate or delayed


data, errors or omissions on these reports. Docket Sheet information should not be used in place of a criminal history background check which can


only be provided by the Pennsylvania State Police. Moreover an employer who does not comply with the provisions of the Criminal History Record


Information Act may be subject to civil liability as set forth in 18 Pa.C.S. Section 9183.


AOPC 2220 - Rev 12/18/2009


COURT OF COMMON PLEAS OF MONTGOMERY COUNTY


DOCKET


Docket Number: CP-46-CR-0007444-2009


Court Case


CRIMINAL DOCKET


Page 2 of 4


Commonwealth of Pennsylvania


v.


Louis Gibson


CHARGES


Seq. Grade Statute Statute Description Offense OTN


Date


Orig Seq.


1 1 M1 18 3926 A1 Theft Of Services-Acquis Of Service 07/06/2009 K7534833


DISPOSITION SENTENCING/PENALTIES


Disposition


Case Event Disposition Date Final Disposition


Sequence/Description Offense Disposition Section


Sentencing Judge Sentence Date Credit For Time Served


Sentence/Diversion Program Type Incarceration/Diversionary Period Start Date


Sentence Conditions


Linked Offense - Sentence Link Type Linked Docket Number


Lower Court Proceeding (generic)


Lower Court Disposition 10/02/2009 Not Final


1 / Theft Of Services-Acquis Of Service Held for Court (Lower Court) 183926A1


Proceed to Court


Information Filed 11/25/2009 Not Final


1 / Theft Of Services-Acquis Of Service Held for Court 183926A1


Printed: 12/18/2009


Recent entries made in the court filing offices may not be immediately reflected on these docket sheets. Neither the courts of the Unified Judicial


System of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania nor the Administrative Office of Pennsylvania Courts assume any liability for inaccurate or delayed


data, errors or omissions on these reports. Docket Sheet information should not be used in place of a criminal history background check which can


only be provided by the Pennsylvania State Police. Moreover an employer who does not comply with the provisions of the Criminal History Record


Information Act may be subject to civil liability as set forth in 18 Pa.C.S. Section 9183.


AOPC 2220 - Rev 12/18/2009


COURT OF COMMON PLEAS OF MONTGOMERY COUNTY


DOCKET


Docket Number: CP-46-CR-0007444-2009


Court Case


CRIMINAL DOCKET


Page 3 of 4


Commonwealth of Pennsylvania


v.


Louis Gibson


COMMONWEALTH INFORMATION


Name: Rebecca Wintz Strubel


District Attorney


Supreme Court No: 206503


Phone Number(s):


Address:


PO Box 311


Norristown PA 19404--0311


Name: Montgomery County District Attorney's


Office


Prosecutor


Supreme Court No:


Phone Number(s):


(610) 278-3090 (Phone)


Address:


Montgomery County Courthouse


PO Box 311


Norristown PA 19404


ATTORNEY INFORMATION


Name:


Supreme Court No:


Rep. Status:


Phone Number(s):


Printed: 12/18/2009


Recent entries made in the court filing offices may not be immediately reflected on these docket sheets. Neither the courts of the Unified Judicial


System of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania nor the Administrative Office of Pennsylvania Courts assume any liability for inaccurate or delayed


data, errors or omissions on these reports. Docket Sheet information should not be used in place of a criminal history background check which can


only be provided by the Pennsylvania State Police. Moreover an employer who does not comply with the provisions of the Criminal History Record


Information Act may be subject to civil liability as set forth in 18 Pa.C.S. Section 9183.


AOPC 2220 - Rev 12/18/2009


COURT OF COMMON PLEAS OF MONTGOMERY COUNTY


DOCKET


Docket Number: CP-46-CR-0007444-2009


Court Case


CRIMINAL DOCKET


Page 4 of 4


Commonwealth of Pennsylvania


v.


Louis Gibson


ENTRIES


Sequence Number CP Filed Date Document Date


1 10/06/2009


Original Papers Received from Lower Court


Court of Common Pleas - Montgomery


County


2 10/06/2009


Formal Arraignment Scheduled Dec 2 2009 9:30AM


12/02/09 service on 10/02/09 FTA


MDJ-38-1-09


1 10/15/2009


Request for Issuance of Bench Warrant


MDJ-38-1-09


1 10/20/2009


Bench Warrant Issued


FTA/Preliminary Hearing 10/02/09


Nicholas, William T.


1 11/25/2009


Information Filed


Commonwealth of Pennsylvania


1 11/30/2009


Bench Warrant Returned Unserved


FTA/Preliminary Hearing 10/02/09


Unknown Filer


1 12/14/2009


ARD Court Scheduled 12/22/2009 12:30PM


Court of Common Pleas - Montgomery


County


Printed: 12/18/2009


Recent entries made in the court filing offices may not be immediately reflected on these docket sheets. Neither the courts of the Unified Judicial


System of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania nor the Administrative Office of Pennsylvania Courts assume any liability for inaccurate or delayed


data, errors or omissions on these reports. Docket Sheet information should not be used in place of a criminal history background check which can


only be provided by the Pennsylvania State Police. Moreover an employer who does not comply with the provisions of the Criminal History Record


Information Act may be subject to civil liability as set forth in 18 Pa.C.S. Section 9183.


AOPC 2220 - Rev 12/18/2009


anonymous

Cumming,
Georgia,
United States of America

How are we a Pyramid???

#5UPDATE Employee

Tue, December 15, 2009

We are a SALES company.  I am one of the company's Independent Sales Managers AND I am the company office manager.  I am a 1099 Contractor - ON COMMISSION WITH NO SALARY GUARANTEE OR REQUIREMENT IN MY CONTRACT.  Right now my office manager duties are purely volunteer and I do them gladly.


We do NOT just sell to "people who join us."  In fact, there are three people on my sales team right now who DON'T have the service and can't because they are just as broke as I am!  WE ARE SUCH A NEW COMPANY - ONLY OFF THE GROUND SINCE DECEMBER 3, 2009 - WE HAVEN'T SOLD A THING!!!  NOT ONE DIME!!!  So how does that make us a pyramid?

Also - none of my friends or family have joined my team nor bought a d**n thing...isn't the point of pyramids (and I have been a part of pyramids - with Mary Kay and Amway in my past) to sell products or recruit family or friends?  

Our "corporate backing" is CLEAR Internet, a wireless internet service in Atlanta and several other US markets.  THEY have billions of dollars in backing from companies such as Intel, Sprint and Microsoft, but WE don't get a dime from them unless we sell their product.  And we haven't sold a thing yet!  All they have done is been kind enough to donate some marketing materials.  WE had to pay THEM to be an authorized reseller.  Other than that, financially, it has all come out of our owners' and our own pockets.  

The ONLY people recruiting, by the way, are the sales managers for their sales teams.  Most people are hired in as a SALES REPRESENTATIVE and are not required to "recruit" or hire anyone.  They are asked to make 6 sales a week of the CLEAR wireless product, and as long as that is done legally, we don't CARE how it's done.  I have walked apartment complexes with flyers I've paid for, I've stood out on the side of the road in a shopping center in mid-30s and rain and wind trying to sell CLEAR.  Sure, I ask the people that **I** hire to buy the CLEAR product, but if they can't, it doesn't mean they can't have a job.

And NO - we're not getting paid for 60 days - because it's COMMISSION ONLY, and CLEAR Commission is paid out net 60.  This is CLEARLY stated in the employment contract, and everyone has to initial that specific point so we know they understand it.  THIS IS COMMISSION-ONLY OUTSIDE SALES.  Anyone who's ever done OUTSIDE SALES understands this is pretty industry-standard.  

If this weren't a job, I wouldn't be so committed to giving my time and talents to it.  I've been a part of pyramid schemes - I know what they are - this isn't it.  This person making false accusations at us (and it is only one person - you can tell by the syntax of his/her writing and the way he/she flunked grammar in school) is obviously disgruntled for one reason or another, and I'm truly sorry for that.  But they don't need to rain on our parade - they need to focus on themselves and getting themselves a real job, if we are SO fake.  Check out www.madphoenixtech.com for the TRUTH - my email address is on that website and feel free to email me with questions or concerns - I'll be happy to tell you what's REALLY going on.  


TMac

Alpharetta,
Georgia,
United States of America

NOTICE TO THE PUBLIC:

#5REBUTTAL Owner of company

Tue, December 15, 2009

PLEASE BE ADVISED   There is an open investigation going on to determine who is filing false reports on Mad Phoenix Technologies.  This person is claiming to have been hired by Mad Phoenix Technologies, and has filed several false reports on various websites. They will be held accountable for these reports, and Mad Phoenix Technologies will be taking appropriate actions.  If you have any information concerning these reports we ask that you please refer your information to the Alpharetta Police Department.  Mad Phoenix Technologies has handed over all documents requested from them, to file for their legal standing with this issue.  As per request of their legal team.    


FedUp

United States of America

Enough!

#5General Comment

Tue, December 15, 2009

Ive really had enough of this. Matt McCloy is my best friend and TJ Macy is my husband. I live with them, and I have been submersed in all of this. I was there when they BOTH as well as ALL THE EMPLOYEES who were with RedShield were ripped off. I was there when they chose to TRY and make this situation into a positive. Ive been here seeing them working nonstop to make this work for everyone and now Im here watching you, whoever you are, attempt to RUIN them. I will NOT just sit back and let some coward drag my husband and best friends names through the mud.

DOES THIS SOUND LIKE A SCAM TO YOU A PYRAMID OR A JOB?

-      Its a SALES Job.

IT TAKES UP TO 8 WEEKS TO GET PAID A DIME.

-      Yes, Clear cuts the commission 60 days after a sale. They are just trying to make something positive out of all of former RedSheild ashes. Everyone who was with them was taken for a ride. EVERYONE. We, too, bought the product and we, too, are broke.

 

YOU ARE 'ASKED' TO SPEND YOUR MONEY BUYING THEIR PRODUCT PRIOR TO STARTING. YOU ARE 'ASKED' TO SPEND YOUR MONEY ADVERTISING THEIR 'OPPORTUNITY' OR JOB. YOU ARE ASKED TO SPEND YOUR MONEY WITHOUT REIMBURSEMENT INTRODUCING AND MEETING OTHERS TO REPEAT GETTING THEM TO BUY OR TAKE THE JOB TO NEIGHBORS FRIENDS FAMILY AND STRANGERS WHOMEVER YOU FIND.

-      Yes, you are asked to buy the product so you can sell it. You dont have to pay for anything if you dont want. They dont care HOW you sell as long as its legal.

THE COMPANY SAYS THEY HAVE A BILLION DOLLAR CORPORATION ON BOARD BUT OPERATES OUT OF A PERSONAL RESIDENCE.

-      Clear is backing them.trying to make a bad situation better. Yes, they are working out of OUR FAMILY RESIDENCE. It is a START UP and we spent our last dime on the last scumbag. I do NOT appreciate you posting my FAMILYs address all over the internet!!!!!!

 

EMPLOYEES STAFF CONTRACTORS HAVE NOT YET BEEN PAID.

-      Correct! And they ALL know the situation and the pay situation.

IN A DOWN ECONOMY AND IN A STATE WHERE UNEMPLOYMENT FORECLOSURES ARE HIGHEST OF ALL EVERYWHERE YOU ARE TO RECRUIT OTHERS TO BUY AND 'TAKE THIS JOB' STATING JOIN IN OR BUY OUR PRODUCT $100++ AND YOU'LL BE PAID TO SELL TO OTHERS THE SAME THING. IF YOUR CREDIT IS GOOD YOU CAN FINANCE PART OF THIS COST AND PAY ABOUT HALF??? I HAVE SOLD MANY PRODUCTS WITH LEGITIMATE COMPANIES AND THEY NEVER ASKED ME TO OR SUGGESTED FIRMLY THAT I BUY THE PRODUCT AT ALL FOR A JOB. IF ANYTHING, THEY GAVE ME THE PRODUCT TO SAMPLE. IN FACT FOR A JOB I DIDN'T SPEND A CENT. THEY GAVE ME THE PRODUCT MAYBE A CAR, CERTAINLY MONEY FOR GAS FOR APPOINTMENTS IF I WORKED FROM HOME. OTHERWISE THEY GAVE ME A REALLY NICE OFFICE A PHONE AND SUPPLIES AND I DIDN'T DRIVE AROUND. I WASN'T ASKED TO SPEND MY MONEY BEFORE I WAS PAID...FOR A JOB???

-      So dont work for them! They HAVE NOTHING TO OFFER except working toward a better future.  

 

OWNER STATES RATHER NOT ASK DAD, BILLIONAIRE (NOTE:$$$1,000,000,000.00.-according to him))  DAD-mind you-HE'S STATED-(hey, you judge the credibility here of the owner)FOR A LITTLE START UP FUNDS TO PAY ME (if i was smart enough? to take this "job"), OR GET AN OFFICE FOR JUST HIMSELF 'SON', EVEN AFTER WRKING HARD FOR HIM!.IT SEEMS HE'D RATHER GET MONEY FROM UNSUSPECTING FINANCIALLY DESPERATE?  AND FINANCIALLY NEEDY? INTERVIEWEES?-LOOKING FOR A JOB USING OUR FUNDS?FOR ADVERTISING,SALES,TRANSPORTATION & START UP COSTS? WOULD HE RATHER HAVE ME POSSIBLY OR YOU POSSIBLY WHO'S LIKELY NEVER EVEN SEEN A BILLIONAIRE EXCEPT ON TV FUND THIS PROJECT? WOULD HE'D RATHER SEE US WAIT UP TO 2 MONTHS FOR PAY ON OUR HARD WORK TO MAKE HIS FAMILY RICHER? OR JUST HIM THIS TIME?..

-      You have GOT TO BE KIDDING ME! Making him richer? Thats just funny seeing that they neither one has made a PENNY in the past two months, AT LEAST. I am the SOLE INCOME for us and our two children. You have no idea about Matts family situation and honestly its none of your d**n business.

In closing, I am sick and tired of whoever you are trying to ruin Matt, my husband, me, and my kids. They are trying as hard as they can to make this into a better life for us all.

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