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Margaret Mae Heart MaineCoon Kittens Emporia Or Norwich Kansas
The ad simply read Maine Coon Kittens $100.00 ea, many colors to choose from. She has multiple listings on several pet classified places such Hoobly,Domestic Sales, usfreeads,. we thought this seemed o.k. We would give it a shot. So we emailed the ad about buying a kitten we wanted a beautiful Maine Coon of which she sent photos after photos stating she had several available so many to choose from.
We picked a little one and the next thing we know he had passed or was put down. So to choose another. She claimed she had been visited by her Vererinarian and was clean and ready to go with no problems. Again trying to find the one we really liked so very many photos to choose from incredible amounts we choose she said o.k..
Next she says well that one is not available, so we choose another and the same thing again and again. Finally we picked and she said it was o.k. so we thought why not two we choose again but i wasn't happy with the color of the one that we choose to replace the one that had died so we were up to finding another to go with the second of which we still hadn't choosen.
Now 250.00 plus dollars and it's still going on for two kittens of which we still will have to have flown to us, she says the price for the female I choose is now 250.00. we don't know what to do at this point. Again tonight email from her,kitten not available unless we pay more.we just want our two kittens we paid for healthy, hopfully vet checked.Oh did we forget to mention Feline Leukemia, and ring worm, yet her vet checked her place and said she was a certfied healthy cattery... Interesting!
Annonymous
richland, Washington
U.S.A.
11 Updates & Rebuttals
Uniquedesire
Norwich,Kansas,
United States of America
William and Mary McCue recieved a health record to ship the two kittens
#12REBUTTAL Individual responds
Mon, March 21, 2011
No medical report was ever sent to me. The warranty is only valid within three days of a vet check report and to be received to the breeder. This never took place.
UniqueDesire Cattery
Margaret Mae Heart
PO Box 75
329 South Briarwood Street
Norwich, Kansas 67118
Home: 620-478-2763
Cell: 316-841-1758
March 19, 2011
This is the receipt for the sale of 200/deposit and 400 paid in full for the CFA registered persian kitten/maine coon which will make it paid in full. This kitten appears to the breeder as healthy. Margaret Mae Heart gives a limited year warranty against heredity defects. If within one year from the date of delivery, the above kitten is diagnosed by buyer's vet as having a deliberation heredity defect that is in his/her opinion prevents the above kitten from serving buyer as a companion pet, seller will provide to buyer another kitten of the same cost and breed. Although seller will put forth great effort to replace the exact color/pattern of the kitten, seller is not obligated to do so.
If the kitten dies within a year of purchase due to heredity or congenital defect, seller will replace the kitten when proof of the defect in the form of a complete autopsy (necropsy) report from a licensed veterinarian pathologist in addition to appropriate blood work is received by seller. Buyer is responsible for all vet related expenses once kitten is released from Margaret Mae Heart, this includes initial visits, office visits, lab tests, vaccinations, medications, surgery or time off work, either by initial visits or for future visits. No medical care is authorized or will be paid by Margaret Mae Heart. Seller has the right to contest to vet findings. If shipping is required, buyer must pay for shipping of the replacement kitten. There are NO REFUNDS, only replacement of kittens. Shipping money is nonrefundable. Any boarding fees as a result of airline delays will be paid by the buyer.
Margaret Mae Heart guarantees that the kitten named above is free of the feline leukemia viris (FELV) and the feline immunodeficiency viris (FIV) at the time of purchase. The kitten is also guaranteed to be free of intestinal parasites and up to date on all vaccinations. A copy of kitten's health records will be given to the buyer at time of purchase. In addition, Margaret Mae Heart cannot warrant this kitten against any adverse reactions to future vaccinations.
The buyer has three business days to have kitten examined by a licensed veterinarian. You should preferably have a veterinarian appointment set up in advance before kitten arrives. A dated copy of your veterinarian's health assessment must be received to Margaret Mae Heart within ten days of receiving your kitten or this warranty will be void.
This guarantee does not include buyer's change of mind, family disagreements, landlord rules, or allergies or any other complaints, also any minor nuisances such as fungus or upper respiratory infection can occur as the result of stress of being relaocated into a new home, and Margaret Mae Heart cannor guarantee that this will not occur. However to the best of my knowledge, none of these are present at the time of shipping/deleivery. In addition, all kittens being shipped, are vet checked by a licensed veterinarian and will receive a veterinary certificate of health before being shipped stating that they are in good health at the time of shipping. For the safety of your pets, you should keep your new kitten in a separate area until checked by your veterinarian. If you have children, I strongly recommend 100% supervision when handling this kitten.
Seller does not guarantee eye color, coat color, coat length, coat pattern, siz, weight or personality of kitten.
All deposits are nonrefundable. It is agree to this sale only to the warranies outlines her in which is the final agreement of all parties. By signing below, you acknowledge that you have read this contract in its entirety and agree to all its requirements, stipulations, and terms thereof, and that you have received a copy of this contract for your records.
If you have any questions, I will answer them for you.
x_________________________buyer ________________Address _________________phone
Margaret Mae Heart seller PO Box 75 329 South Briarwood Street Norwich, Kansas 67118
H: 620-478-2763
C: 316-841-1758
CFA registered, Grand Champion lines
PKD and Felv negative, Vaccinated, Vet Certified, Health Guaranteed, Kittens available
Adults occasionally, closed cattery, Home raised
620-478-2763
http://www.5minutesite.com/vp.php?ui=13667#news
Speciald
Norwich,Kansas,
U.S.A.
False complaints
#12REBUTTAL Individual responds
Sun, July 19, 2009
Margaret Heart False complaints Norwich Kansas
I am writing a nice letter when people do not know the circumstances.
This woman and her husband wanted a kitten that was going to be shipped to Washington DC. FIrst of all, she and her husband did not have the money for the kitten. By the time she did, it was summer, and the plane did not ship.
After two trips to pick up money from Norwich, Kansas to Wichita, kansas, they decided to change flight plans. The ad was from last year which is when I had some problems which is why I bought 12 maine coons from a breeder whose husband lost him job. I adopted out all of the kittens except for Duke and Duchess, the maine coons and Prince and Princess the persian and Himalayans. Her kitten was 200 which I paid for out of my pocket. Also there was another couple in Oklahoma who purchased two kittens from me which were 100 each and I resplaced them with two that I paid 200 each.
This is old news so look at your dates carefully.
Thank you for your consideration and cooperation in this matter. Most vets state keep them separated when you just get a new animal.
Sinecerely,
Margaret Mae Heart, Licensed Hobby Breeder, Licensed Substitute Teacher, Criminal Justice Professional
PS The other thing she complained about was the health when they had a health record which you can not ship without one. The she said that it was six weeks old and you can not ship until eight weeks of age.
I also spoke with the other two families which adopted out kittens from me this last weekend and they are both doing fine. One lady is Judith Booth and you have her address and phone number.
Margaret Mae Heart
PO Box 75
329 South Briarwood Street
Norwich, Kansas 67118
Home: 620-478-2763
Cell: 316-841-1758
Kansas Animal Health Department
708 SW Jackson
Topeka, Kansas 66603-3714
Phone: (785) 296-2326
Fax: (785) 296-1765
June 10, 2009
Pet Breed: Cat/Maine Coon
Name and Address of Clients:
Judith Booth
219 Brindlewood
Enid, OK 73701
Phone: 580-233-7010
Email: jboothrn@gmail.com
Description:
1 Male grey tabby born Easter 2009
1 Male brown and Black born May 3, 2009
Chris Stanocheck
494 State Nwy Spur 34B
Firth, NE 68358
Phone: 402-791-2120
Email: flatwaterman@hotmail.com
Description:
1 Male Brown and with white paws born February 18, 2009
1 Female Calico born February 18, 2009
1 Female Silver runt born Easter 2009
Note: The silver was given after my vet check and medication
And change of hands and owner, new vet with diagnosis of
Bladder defect
Rowdy Ruby Robinson
Las Vegas, New Mexico
Phone: 505-425-6359
Email: rowdy-ruby@hotmail..com
1 Female grey tabby born Easter 2009
1 Female black born Easter 2009
1 Male Red born February 18, 2009
Daniel Michael Trudell
1003 North Highway 105
North Sue City, South Dakota
1 Female Brown tabby born February 18, 2009
Phone: 712-333-7511
E-mail: rowdy-ruby@hotmail.com
Phil DeNomme
1025 Forest Avenue
Crete, Nebraska 68333
Phone: 402-730-4213
Email:
1 Female Black born May 03, 2009
Gladys Cay
PO Box 545
504 Wilson
Blue Springs, Nebraska
Phone: 402-806-3568
Email: gm.cary@hotmail.com
2 Female grey tabbies born Easter 2009
You should expect to pay between $400 and $700 to adopt a "pet" quality Maine Coon kitten, perhaps more (especially for show quality), possibly less for an older cat.
"But", you say, "that much for a cat? I can get a cat at the SPCA for a $25 donation. I understand there are some purebreds in shelters, they just don't have papers..."
That's true. If that's what you want, go ahead. You may save a life. But if you continue in your quest for a purebred pedigreed Maine Coon, you'll need to start by giving up a common misperception.
You are not buying a cat
That $600 check you write is paying the breeder (a partial payment at that) for many things, including:
time spent understanding what it means to be a Maine Coon
time spent learning the finer points of the breed
buying several cats to show as alters
cat food, kitty litter, toys
scratching posts
vaccinations for the adult cats in the household
costs of attending shows, getting to be known, gaining a good reputation
cat carriers, benching cages, cat trees
learning about breeding
several years of learning what it means to breed cats
learning about genetics and heredity
pedigree research and planning, outcross planning
choosing the sire and dam
cat food, kitty litter, toys
HCM screening, hip screening
buying a breeding female
ensuring that the mother-to-be isn't bred too soon or too often or to the wrong male
setting up a kitten nursery
cleaning and scrubbing with cat-safe products
installing screen doors inside your home, e.g. on the kitty bedroom
installing extra strong screens, screen-porch, etc, for light and air
cat food, kitty litter, toys
vet visits - annual or semi-annual
9 weeks of care for the pregnant female, incl. pre-natal vet visits
assisting mama at delivery time
possible unforeseen circumstances of delivery
12 weeks of care for the kittens
cat food, kitty litter, toys
daily handling and SOCIALIZATION of the kittens
scratching posts
The first three rounds of vaccinations
possibly spay/neuter of the kittens
cat food, kitty litter, toys
interviewing prospective pet parents
I also know of at least two breeders who got a DVM degree so they could better serve their cats.
Do you have any idea what getting a DVM costs?
Speciald
Norwich,Kansas,
U.S.A.
False complaints
#12REBUTTAL Individual responds
Sun, July 19, 2009
Margaret Heart False complaints Norwich Kansas
I am writing a nice letter when people do not know the circumstances.
This woman and her husband wanted a kitten that was going to be shipped to Washington DC. FIrst of all, she and her husband did not have the money for the kitten. By the time she did, it was summer, and the plane did not ship.
After two trips to pick up money from Norwich, Kansas to Wichita, kansas, they decided to change flight plans. The ad was from last year which is when I had some problems which is why I bought 12 maine coons from a breeder whose husband lost him job. I adopted out all of the kittens except for Duke and Duchess, the maine coons and Prince and Princess the persian and Himalayans. Her kitten was 200 which I paid for out of my pocket. Also there was another couple in Oklahoma who purchased two kittens from me which were 100 each and I resplaced them with two that I paid 200 each.
This is old news so look at your dates carefully.
Thank you for your consideration and cooperation in this matter. Most vets state keep them separated when you just get a new animal.
Sinecerely,
Margaret Mae Heart, Licensed Hobby Breeder, Licensed Substitute Teacher, Criminal Justice Professional
PS The other thing she complained about was the health when they had a health record which you can not ship without one. The she said that it was six weeks old and you can not ship until eight weeks of age.
I also spoke with the other two families which adopted out kittens from me this last weekend and they are both doing fine. One lady is Judith Booth and you have her address and phone number.
Margaret Mae Heart
PO Box 75
329 South Briarwood Street
Norwich, Kansas 67118
Home: 620-478-2763
Cell: 316-841-1758
Kansas Animal Health Department
708 SW Jackson
Topeka, Kansas 66603-3714
Phone: (785) 296-2326
Fax: (785) 296-1765
June 10, 2009
Pet Breed: Cat/Maine Coon
Name and Address of Clients:
Judith Booth
219 Brindlewood
Enid, OK 73701
Phone: 580-233-7010
Email: jboothrn@gmail.com
Description:
1 Male grey tabby born Easter 2009
1 Male brown and Black born May 3, 2009
Chris Stanocheck
494 State Nwy Spur 34B
Firth, NE 68358
Phone: 402-791-2120
Email: flatwaterman@hotmail.com
Description:
1 Male Brown and with white paws born February 18, 2009
1 Female Calico born February 18, 2009
1 Female Silver runt born Easter 2009
Note: The silver was given after my vet check and medication
And change of hands and owner, new vet with diagnosis of
Bladder defect
Rowdy Ruby Robinson
Las Vegas, New Mexico
Phone: 505-425-6359
Email: rowdy-ruby@hotmail..com
1 Female grey tabby born Easter 2009
1 Female black born Easter 2009
1 Male Red born February 18, 2009
Daniel Michael Trudell
1003 North Highway 105
North Sue City, South Dakota
1 Female Brown tabby born February 18, 2009
Phone: 712-333-7511
E-mail: rowdy-ruby@hotmail.com
Phil DeNomme
1025 Forest Avenue
Crete, Nebraska 68333
Phone: 402-730-4213
Email:
1 Female Black born May 03, 2009
Gladys Cay
PO Box 545
504 Wilson
Blue Springs, Nebraska
Phone: 402-806-3568
Email: gm.cary@hotmail.com
2 Female grey tabbies born Easter 2009
You should expect to pay between $400 and $700 to adopt a "pet" quality Maine Coon kitten, perhaps more (especially for show quality), possibly less for an older cat.
"But", you say, "that much for a cat? I can get a cat at the SPCA for a $25 donation. I understand there are some purebreds in shelters, they just don't have papers..."
That's true. If that's what you want, go ahead. You may save a life. But if you continue in your quest for a purebred pedigreed Maine Coon, you'll need to start by giving up a common misperception.
You are not buying a cat
That $600 check you write is paying the breeder (a partial payment at that) for many things, including:
time spent understanding what it means to be a Maine Coon
time spent learning the finer points of the breed
buying several cats to show as alters
cat food, kitty litter, toys
scratching posts
vaccinations for the adult cats in the household
costs of attending shows, getting to be known, gaining a good reputation
cat carriers, benching cages, cat trees
learning about breeding
several years of learning what it means to breed cats
learning about genetics and heredity
pedigree research and planning, outcross planning
choosing the sire and dam
cat food, kitty litter, toys
HCM screening, hip screening
buying a breeding female
ensuring that the mother-to-be isn't bred too soon or too often or to the wrong male
setting up a kitten nursery
cleaning and scrubbing with cat-safe products
installing screen doors inside your home, e.g. on the kitty bedroom
installing extra strong screens, screen-porch, etc, for light and air
cat food, kitty litter, toys
vet visits - annual or semi-annual
9 weeks of care for the pregnant female, incl. pre-natal vet visits
assisting mama at delivery time
possible unforeseen circumstances of delivery
12 weeks of care for the kittens
cat food, kitty litter, toys
daily handling and SOCIALIZATION of the kittens
scratching posts
The first three rounds of vaccinations
possibly spay/neuter of the kittens
cat food, kitty litter, toys
interviewing prospective pet parents
I also know of at least two breeders who got a DVM degree so they could better serve their cats.
Do you have any idea what getting a DVM costs?
Me
Las Vegas,Nevada,
U.S.A.
Did you save all your correspondance and the ad?
#12Consumer Comment
Sun, January 04, 2009
What about deceptive trade paractices or such. If you have all the proof, small claims is always an option as well.
Annonymous
richland,Washington,
U.S.A.
selling kittens too young
#12Author of original report
Fri, November 28, 2008
she now claims on her emails she doesn't sell a kitten until it is 12 weeks, wish that had been true in our case as we received one of the kittens at the age of five weeks and he died after a week of all the love and medical care we gave he failed his poor little soul left us exactly seven days after he arrived he was sick and malnurished. Sad so very sad.
Annonymous
richland,Washington,
U.S.A.
unhealthy animals
#12Author of original report
Fri, November 28, 2008
Finally received our two kittens,Margaret seems to be interested in the money only and not the health of the innocent animals. Ours came to us malnurished, flea infested and one with a parisite which killed the little guy who by the way according to my vet records was only 5 weeks young so pathetically sqrawny his poor body just couldn't handle it even with antibiotics and propernutrional supplimintations.We are still working to get the older kitten healthy. I do have documentation from the vet and all costs incured from the time of purchase to date.
Annonymous
richland,Washington,
U.S.A.
margaret mae heart
#12Author of original report
Tue, November 25, 2008
we finally did get our kittens. we sent her additional money ontop of money for the airlines cost which she was to add to the flight additional airline difference in cost and send us the remainder which was 85.00 left over and to date she still has and refuses to send back to us. we had to take both kittens into see the vet I will give you the update on this later lets just say for now do be careful when buying animals you cant view in person...
Annonymous
richland,Washington,
U.S.A.
unique desire maine coons margaret mae heart
#12Author of original report
Sun, November 16, 2008
Took both kittens into the vet they both are skinny, the younger is not the age i was told he is approximately 4 weeks infested with fleas has a toxic infection and undergoing antibiotic treatment. He has now passed away just too young to be without his mommy and very smallmuch too small vet was surprised the airlines allowed him to fly.We have try repeatedly to have Margaret give us back our 85.00 she refuses our emailes she said in the lastone she sent we were blocked. Too affraid to get another from her, but feel we should get our money back for the sickly kitten she sold to us. waiting for test results on the other kitten.
crossing our fingers. by the way we had to force feed the baby kitten and he was also cold the vet said he was too small to maintain his temp. we tried everything but lost him. bless his little heart. how could she feel good about selling ill kittens?
Annonymous
richland,Washington,
U.S.A.
unique desire maine coons margaret mae heart
#12Author of original report
Sun, November 16, 2008
Took both kittens into the vet they both are skinny, the younger is not the age i was told he is approximately 4 weeks infested with fleas has a toxic infection and undergoing antibiotic treatment. He has now passed away just too young to be without his mommy and very smallmuch too small vet was surprised the airlines allowed him to fly.We have try repeatedly to have Margaret give us back our 85.00 she refuses our emailes she said in the lastone she sent we were blocked. Too affraid to get another from her, but feel we should get our money back for the sickly kitten she sold to us. waiting for test results on the other kitten.
crossing our fingers. by the way we had to force feed the baby kitten and he was also cold the vet said he was too small to maintain his temp. we tried everything but lost him. bless his little heart. how could she feel good about selling ill kittens?
Annonymous
richland,Washington,
U.S.A.
unique desire maine coons margaret mae heart
#12Author of original report
Sun, November 16, 2008
Took both kittens into the vet they both are skinny, the younger is not the age i was told he is approximately 4 weeks infested with fleas has a toxic infection and undergoing antibiotic treatment. He has now passed away just too young to be without his mommy and very smallmuch too small vet was surprised the airlines allowed him to fly.We have try repeatedly to have Margaret give us back our 85.00 she refuses our emailes she said in the lastone she sent we were blocked. Too affraid to get another from her, but feel we should get our money back for the sickly kitten she sold to us. waiting for test results on the other kitten.
crossing our fingers. by the way we had to force feed the baby kitten and he was also cold the vet said he was too small to maintain his temp. we tried everything but lost him. bless his little heart. how could she feel good about selling ill kittens?
Annonymous
richland,Washington,
U.S.A.
unique desire maine coons margaret mae heart
#12Author of original report
Sun, November 16, 2008
Took both kittens into the vet they both are skinny, the younger is not the age i was told he is approximately 4 weeks infested with fleas has a toxic infection and undergoing antibiotic treatment. He has now passed away just too young to be without his mommy and very smallmuch too small vet was surprised the airlines allowed him to fly.We have try repeatedly to have Margaret give us back our 85.00 she refuses our emailes she said in the lastone she sent we were blocked. Too affraid to get another from her, but feel we should get our money back for the sickly kitten she sold to us. waiting for test results on the other kitten.
crossing our fingers. by the way we had to force feed the baby kitten and he was also cold the vet said he was too small to maintain his temp. we tried everything but lost him. bless his little heart. how could she feel good about selling ill kittens?