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MCESE First Name: RuiZhi fraud - website selling wholesale computers and does not send after payment made ShenZhen, Internet
This company has a website in the United States hosted by godaddy.com. The website sells computers, iPhone, Ipads, etc for reasonable prices. Payment is advertised as being thru Visa/Mastercard but after you order, you find out the only way to get your product is to pay via wire transfer or Western Union.
I purchased goods to sell on eBay. Ordered initial product as test run. Feeling confident I was getting my product after many emails, I placed products up for sale. Products sold but never arrived. Was told a week after initial sale that I had to purchase more to meet company weight limit for shipping. After MOQ was met, I waited a week for tracking number. Still have not received tracking number and niw company will not answer email, phone calls or help desk.
3 Updates & Rebuttals
samsungtab
Ontario,Mcese.com bank information an reports on their creditibility
#4Consumer Suggestion
Sat, April 27, 2013
After a long conversation with MSECE.com they requested me to send them the payment to their account:
B.Bank Transfer
(Beneficiary)First name: Xiao
Last name: Meng
Country:China
Bank Name:China Merchants Bank,H. O. Shenzhen
Swift Code:XXXXXXX
Bank Account XXXX XXXX XXXX XXXX
Bank Address:China Merchants Bank Tower No.7088,Shennan Boulevard, Shenzhen, China
MCese.com2013-04-27
AFTER I DID MY OWN RESEARCH ON THEIR ACCOUNT I FOUNT OUT THAT THEY HAVE A HUGE ONLINE NETWORK OF MORE THAN 7 WEBSITES TO SCAM CONSUMERS, ALL OF THOSE WEBSITES ARE LINKED TO THE BANK ACCOUNT MENTIONED ABOVE.
SO I GAVE MY SELF THE LIBERTY TO ADD SOME QUOTES FROM SOME CONSUMERS WHO PAID MONEY TO THIS BANK ACCOUNT.
QUOTING A CONSUMER REPORT ONLINE "Date Occurred: 09/08/2011Reported Damages: $570.00
My name is Andrey Shokoplyas, I'm from Russia. In early September, I placed an order online and pay for it yuotom.kom bank transfer. order amount is $ -570. Bank details where my money went:
Bank Transfer: Beneficiary
First name:Xiao
Last name:Meng
Country
China
Bank Name
China Merchants Bank?H. O. Shenzhen
Swift Code
XXXXXXX
Bank Account
XXXX XXXX XXXX XXXX
Bank Address
China Merchants Bank Tower No.7088,
Shennan Boulevard, Shenzhen, China
At first I was misleading to say that the amount of my order is not enough for customs clearance (supposedly the order should not be less than 10 kg.), Then promised all sorts of gifts for the delay in the order. In the end, I stopped answering at all. I contacted the company asking provaydesupport.kom to close their chat sites scams. They did not close its service on these sites, even though I gave them proof (copies of payment documents, and links to other sites where there are complaints about these scams). Alibaba turned on, where I was told that they have closed a long time in these sites are themselves under suspicion of fraud. Now I'm trying to negotiate with the site http://tethx.com/ (same crooks).Another site of the same scam-upupp.com".
QUOTING ANOTHER ONLINE VICTIM: Date Occurred: 03/14/2012Reported Damages: $55,355.00
I was going to buy a computer. I completed order and sent the money by bank transfer. The receiver's name is XIAO MENG . His account number is XXXX XXXX XXXX XXXX XXXX and he works with MERCHANTS BANK at SHENZHEN, CHINA.
Whois information of domain by http://www.whois.com/whois/resyo.com is;
Registrant Name ................. gu donghai
Registrant ID ................... hc508552671-cn
Registrant Phone Number ......... +86.0208642152
Registrant Email ................ b00618f@sina.com
Their phone doesn't answer.
QUOTING ANOTHER VICTIM: Date Occurred: 10/31/2011Reported Damages: $4,050.00
I thought i would give dropshipping a go for the 1st time. I went through zhzi.net now known as resyo.com. So i put 12 items in total (Iphones and ipads.) up for sale sold them quickly and paid the supplier through western union as soon as my payment cleared out of paypal. They stuffed me around for 2 weeks and tried to get more out of me by making stories about customs. I requested a refund they said 3-5 days i contacted them after this time and i wasnt getting much response on their chat window and they closed down their website 14/11/11. I feel terrible about the situation my poor customers are in. I have used as much of my funds as possible to refund customers now I have 9 poor customers that have to dispute me with paypal to get their money from buyer protection This puts me in the minus of nearly $4000 AU. However for me i now I will lose my account because of I cant refund. And i may still have to pay back paypal or face prosecution from them. I have proven through documentation that i payed and have not taken money for myself but may not be enough. Please whatever anyone or everyone can do to stop these people. The name the scammer is using is guo tang never buy from this person. My stepdaughter also has found info that these people have run a number of websites over 7 years using a fake verisign logo.
Everyone reading this: all websites with a security logo like verisign should be able to click on the logo and be directed to a verisign window if not the site is most probably fake. I also lost a further $258 of my own money because when I was waiting to funds to clear into my bank account before paying the supplier I order 1 small item to test under a friends name. Unfortunately I didnt want to make my customers wait even longer so I accepted only the tracking details for this order. (Which ended up being a document in a fed ex package.) They made a customs story about that too but I checked with fed ex and they only sent the document in the first place and customs was never involved. Thanks Dean.
I HOPE MY CONTRIBUTION TO THIS REPORT WILL HELP TO LOWER THE RATE OF ONLINE CRIMES AND SCAMS.
samsungtab
Ontario,odd conversation with msece agent
#4Consumer Comment
Sat, April 27, 2013
My Chat Transcript With MCESE.com agent
12:00:59 PM [visitor] can you confirm order 2013042560019 and combine the shipping with 2013042479034 to be eligible for free shipping.
12:01:26 PM [mcese.com] Welcome to our website,i'm WeiWei,The services NO.8020,what can i do for you today?
12:01:40 PM [visitor] hi weiwei
12:02:01 PM [visitor can you confirm order 2013042560019 and combine the shipping with 2013042479034 to be eligible for free shipping.
12:02:26 PM [mcese.com] yes of course
12:02:36 PM [mcese.com] Please hold on, let me check
12:02:44 PM [visitor ok
12:05:02 PM [mcese.com] We have to change Check new orders
12:05:22 PM [visitor] hold on, please
12:06:42 PM [visitor nice one more thing, if i split my order to 17 units acer and 15 units hp
12:06:51 PM [mcese.com] 0091 =2970usd
12:07:08 PM [mcese.com] ok
12:07:49 PM [visitor] can we do that
12:08:13 PM [mcese.com] ok thanks
12:08:48 PM [visitor] how much will it be after this adjustment
12:10:35 PM [visitor] now we have order 2013042560019 and 2013042479034 , they are good
12:11:13 PM [visitor] if i want to place a third order of 17 units of acer and 15 units hp
12:11:16 PM [mcese.com] 9034=2400usd
12:11:25 PM [mcese.com] 0091 =2970usd
12:11:28 PM [visitor] is that possible
12:11:52 PM [visitor] yes if the third order half of both amounts
12:11:55 PM [mcese.com] yes
12:12:17 PM [visitor] can you add that extra order to my list please
12:13:47 PM [mcese.com] please tell me details, sorry I don't know your mean.Can you explain it in more detail?
12:14:34 PM [visitor] dont worry, they are fine the way they are.
12:14:47 PM [visitor] i want to know if i passed the MOQ
12:16:31 PM [visitor] excuse-me wei wei
12:16:46 PM [visitor] do i have to worry about the MOQ
12:17:53 PM [mcese.com] I do not quite understand what you mean
12:18:21 PM [visitor] minimum order quantity
12:18:48 PM [mcese.com] 1pcs
12:19:28 PM [visitor] so i am good, i want to transfer the amount of $5370
12:19:41 PM [visitor] is there any collateral for me
12:20:21 PM [mcese.com] When
you get items,If they have any damage or not new and original,you can
get 30 days refund,we bear all the costs in return process.
12:21:07 PM [visitor] what i mean, once i transfer the money from my bank account i will not be able to get it back in case of fraud
12:21:33 PM [visitor] what is my insurance that my money transaction is safe
12:22:05 PM [visitor] sorry, it is a big amount and i have to be sure that i am safe before i transfer it
12:22:25 PM [mcese.com] You can pay to pay 50% of 50%
12:23:56 PM [visitor] can you create a paypal account now and i will transfer the money to your paypal account now
12:24:34 PM [visitor] if not how can i trust your company when i cant find any financial history for it.
12:24:42 PM [mcese.com] Now our company only have western union and bank transfer
12:25:18 PM [mcese.com] We
are real company in china,and we have a lot of buyer from Worldwide,So
far, we have a lot of good reviews from the Internet, you can check our
company.
12:25:26 PM [visitor] this is the problem, how do i know that my money transfer is safe. and the order will be shipped from your side
12:25:49 PM [visitor] can you send me some links for good review
12:26:23 PM [mcese.com] You can search on the Internet
12:26:39 PM [visitor] http://www.ripoffreport.com/mcese/computer-manufactures/shenzhen-internet-135ce.htm
12:26:51 PM [visitor] this is the review available online
12:26:59 PM [mcese.com] If you do not believe that we can choose to buy in other companies
12:27:03 PM [mcese.com] thanks
12:27:17 PM [lvisitor] but i want to by your products
12:27:51 PM [mcese.com] We are a real company
12:28:20 PM [visitor] can you send me a phone number to talk to one of your sale members to confirm
12:28:48 PM [visitor] and the address of the company too if you don't mind
12:28:59 PM [mcese.com] Sorry our English is very poor,we only accept online help and email.thanks
12:29:35 PM [visitor] my associate speaks Chinese, we can work it out
12:30:27 PM [mcese.com] Sorry, we do not provide telephone services
12:30:27 PM [mcese.com] thanks
12:30:57 PM [visitor] it will be great if you send me the address of the real company
12:32:14 PM [visitor] i want to send one of my friends to give you the cash to your hand
12:33:02 PM [visitor] and he will take my order from you in china
12:33:12 PM [visitor] so he will take care of the shipping
12:33:18 PM [visitor] can we do that
12:34:52 PM [visitor] wei wei are you with me
12:37:14 PM [visitor] ok wei wei what is your recommendation
12:38:52 PM [lvisitor] i will wait for your opinion, i want to finish this order ASAP
12:40:13 PM [mcese.com] We do not accept cash transactions sorry
12:41:42 PM [visitor] ok so lets do the 50% 50%
12:41:52 PM [visitor] i am willing to take the risk
12:42:16 PM [mcese.com] ok thanks
12:42:33 PM [visitor] after the payment, how long do i have to wait to the shipment
12:43:01 PM [mcese.com] When you order,we will send items within 12 hours, at the same time we will give you tracking NO.
12:43:37 PM [visitor] can you give me an estimate n the arrival time
12:45:26 PM [visitor] ok can you explain more on the 50% 50% payment
12:45:32 PM [visitor] and how does it go
12:45:42 PM [mcese.com] 5-7days
12:46:08 PM [mcese.com] Please send your payments details photo to our email"paid@MCese.com",when we confirm your payments we will send email to you. thanks
12:46:55 PM [visitor] i will,if i did not receive a tracking number will you refund me
12:47:45 PM [mcese.com] yes of course
12:48:18 PM [mcese.com] When we confirm your payment will be sent to your project
12:48:25 PM [visitor] ok can you tell me more about the 50% 50% and how does it work
12:49:24 PM [mcese.com] When you have completed payment 50% we will send you your project
12:50:02 PM [visitor] so i will send you 50% of the money and you will send the project
12:50:46 PM [visitor] and once i confirm the shipment and sign on the shipping slip , by then i should send the 2nd 50%
12:50:47 PM [mcese.com] yes
12:50:50 PM [visitor] is that right
12:51:09 PM [mcese.com] yes of course
12:52:01 PM [lvisitor] ok to be safe i will pay for order 2013042560019 50% of it
12:52:20 PM [visitor] wait for the shipping, once it arrive i will pay the rest
12:52:52 PM [visitor] then i will pay for order 2013042479034 50%
12:52:56 PM [mcese.com] ok
12:53:04 PM [visitor] once it arrives i will clear my balance
12:53:11 PM [visitor] can we do that
12:53:30 PM [mcese.com] ok thanks
12:54:12 PM [visitor] sorry what is your employee number for future reference
12:54:38 PM [visitor] i want to keep in touch with you personally over all my future transactions
12:55:24 PM [visitor] and i want to send and email to your boss to send my thanks on your great client care
12:55:37 PM [mcese.com] NO.8020
12:56:28 PM [visitor] what is your boss email address
12:57:38 PM [mcese.com] sales@MCese.com
12:57:55 PM [visitor] Thank you
12:58:52 PM [mcese.com] ok thanks
samsungtab
Ontario,I have a big order with this company and i did not pay for it yet
#4Consumer Comment
Fri, April 26, 2013
I talked to the mcese online agent for a long time about the money transaction, the shipment and so on. all of there answers where shady. i asked them to open an account to accept visa, MasterCard, or even pay-pal. they said that currently the money transactions that they accept are bank transfer and western Union.
come on i was about to pay them around 10 grands, the least the can do is to do a pay-pal account. a paypal account would not take over a day to create. it is also a good collateral to their consumers. it did not stop here by refusing my idea on opening a pay-pal account. they told me that they have high rated review over the net. according to this site they don't.
It is a high risk website, and their policy if you wanna buy our products you have to play with our terms (pay the money by bank transfer or Western union) or buy from other website. i personally thing this is the worst policy a legit business can follow, unless it is a hit and run scam that feed on people fear of loss for a good bargain.
i sniffed around all over the online data base and i found that they use Shanghai Yovole Network as an umbrella, inc as an umbrella. i don"t have an international call feature from my cell phone service provider to call and confirm on them. any ways the main company number is +8621512638, Address 12th floor #323 Guoding road, shanghai 200433.
the owner personal information on mcese.com owner
Name Guang Tan
Phone: +86-05798512420
call them and make sure it is not a scam, by asking for a collateral