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MId-State Moving And Storage - Dba Florida Van Lines possible interstate hostage goods scam possible unauthorized interstate move possible ripoff of an innocent couple who don't know how to complain Clearwater Florida
On 12-24-2003 Bob, from "Midstate Moviing and Storage dba Florida Van Lines" posted an 'employee rebuttal' on the Rip Off Report that stated that his FL Van Lines is not the company being reported in previous complaints, he suggests that an imposter has pirated his name and DOT & ICC numbers.
Well, how about this????
At this very moment, 2200Hrs-01-30-2004, FL Van Lines(FVL), as identified above, is creating havoc in the lives of two people that I know quite well,, Mr. & Mrs. R. As told to me by the R's, FVL brought goods to NM from Clearwater, demanded more money stating that the weight of the load was more than was first estimated, therefore the price had increased...substantially!! Mr. & Mrs. R could not pay the extra. Delivery of the R's goods was denied. Also, there is some question as to whether FVL was supposed to bring the load to NM when it did. FVL placed the goods in a storage facility in the Santa Fe area where it remains hostage. FVL has told the R's that they are shipping the goods back to FL for auction, possibly this weekend. Mrs. R has spoken to FVL at its 727-535-1423 number in Clearwater and has been insulted and treated very shabbily. This is the same company that denies, in the Rip-off Report that it is the subject of previous complaints.
The R's do not have the means, either finacially, geographically, bureaucratically or electronically to pursue their plight with NVL, particularly since NVL is threatening immient disposal of Mr.& Mrs. R's belongings at auction.
This is why I am trying to assist Mr. & Mrs. R in this matter. I am available to answer what questions that I can. I can also put you in direct contact with the R's in NM. These are honest folks. Please help them. Maybe it will help pin down FVL's problems in the Rip-off Report (rebuttal), too.
Thank you!!
Dwight
Clearwater, Florida
U.S.A.
2 Updates & Rebuttals
Sharon
Alexandria,Virginia,
U.S.A.
restraining order, DO NOT sign the bill of lading (which says everything arrived in good condition and the move is over).
#3Consumer Suggestion
Sat, January 31, 2004
First thing the R's have to do is get an immediate restraining order against FVL, preventing them from auctioning their belongings while the matter is investigated. Then, contact the Florida FBI, they have all the goods on Florida-based companies that scam, and see if they can help. When was the original move, and how much did the price increase? What were they told upfront, and what does their contract say? Consult a contract lawyer, the $200 for an hour of lawyer time could save them thousands.
Call FVL and offer them to pay the 110% of the original estimate, and tell them you'll pay the rest later. Federal law (as stated in the "Rights & Responsibilities When You Move" book that all movers are required to give out) says that a company cannot demand more then 110% of the original estimate upon delivery, and then you have 30 days to pay the balance. If they refuse this amount and demand full payment, they are in violation of federal law. I know this may make them laugh, but they might be willing to get some money rather than a paltry amount from auctioning the R's stuff. Once they've paid this amount, and offered to pay the rest over the next month, the R's hold the cards. This is what I did. My company kept demanding the full amount, another $2000, which I did not send them, and they just gave up rather then let it go to court, where their practices might come to light.
But definitly, they should speak with a contract lawyer, at least to have correspondance to the movers be on scary, official letterheads. If the movers do return their belongings, videotape it, be sure to check off every box as it comes off the truck, and if not every box is there, DO NOT sign the bill of lading (which says everything arrived in good condition and the move is over). Read my report (http://www.ripoffreport.com/view.asp?id=69346) for more info, and a list of agencies to complain to. Tell them to make lots of calls and write lots of letters!
I wish the R's luck!
Sharon
Alexandria,Virginia,
U.S.A.
restraining order, DO NOT sign the bill of lading (which says everything arrived in good condition and the move is over).
#3Consumer Suggestion
Sat, January 31, 2004
First thing the R's have to do is get an immediate restraining order against FVL, preventing them from auctioning their belongings while the matter is investigated. Then, contact the Florida FBI, they have all the goods on Florida-based companies that scam, and see if they can help. When was the original move, and how much did the price increase? What were they told upfront, and what does their contract say? Consult a contract lawyer, the $200 for an hour of lawyer time could save them thousands.
Call FVL and offer them to pay the 110% of the original estimate, and tell them you'll pay the rest later. Federal law (as stated in the "Rights & Responsibilities When You Move" book that all movers are required to give out) says that a company cannot demand more then 110% of the original estimate upon delivery, and then you have 30 days to pay the balance. If they refuse this amount and demand full payment, they are in violation of federal law. I know this may make them laugh, but they might be willing to get some money rather than a paltry amount from auctioning the R's stuff. Once they've paid this amount, and offered to pay the rest over the next month, the R's hold the cards. This is what I did. My company kept demanding the full amount, another $2000, which I did not send them, and they just gave up rather then let it go to court, where their practices might come to light.
But definitly, they should speak with a contract lawyer, at least to have correspondance to the movers be on scary, official letterheads. If the movers do return their belongings, videotape it, be sure to check off every box as it comes off the truck, and if not every box is there, DO NOT sign the bill of lading (which says everything arrived in good condition and the move is over). Read my report (http://www.ripoffreport.com/view.asp?id=69346) for more info, and a list of agencies to complain to. Tell them to make lots of calls and write lots of letters!
I wish the R's luck!