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  • Report:  #198322

Complaint Review: MRS Associates

MRS Associates ripoff stop harassing me you'll get them oney when i have it Cherry Hill New Jersey

  • Reported By:
    Stamford Connecticut
  • Submitted:
    Tue, June 27, 2006
  • Updated:
    Thu, October 05, 2006
  • MRS Associates
    3Excutive Campus, Suite 400
    Cherry Hill, New Jersey
    U.S.A.
  • Phone:
    877-774-7996
  • Category:

Well I know i'm in collection, and i know i owe the money. But no money to pay these people. where the h**l i'm going to get the money pop it out of my a## ? I understand they call me don't call my neighbor pretend to be my friend and my neighbor is a sweet eldery lady,why? how did she get my neighbors number? the federal trade commsion's debt protection act states(very interesting document to read) yo uare only allowed to contact the debtor on the telephone number submitted on the orginial credit card application,to collect a debt. Well they try to call me at work, my cell phone in which they are NOT allowed to call. then they switch me around same company. 6 different people handling my account.

Now here is the part i want to share with all who are in collection,I got this information stupid girl gave me all the information I went to a job fair and just for kicks applied for a job. Well first of all, these collection agencies are similar to telemarketer boiler room enviorments.In an industrial park somewhere(a friend lives in cherry hill and that is exactly what it is) most agencies work on commission only, debtor don't pay they don't get paid.

They don't have any legal authority to do any of they things, they threaten or harass you with, unless your debt is over 5,000 or more.And it is all a script and they make you say those things to wear you down.
the federal trade commssion ebt protection act is a fine document to read. BUt because state laws are diferent, the collection agency abides by their state's regulations NOT yours. I love sharing this information
there is a whole lot more, and there will be a part 2

Eris
Stamford, Connecticut
U.S.A.

10 Updates & Rebuttals


Steve

Bradenton,
Florida,
U.S.A.

Eris, I'm glad i could help! And Julianna, Thanx!

#11Consumer Comment

Thu, October 05, 2006

In answer to your question, no I am not a lawyer. I worked for several years in various aspects of the financial/credit world. And I have studied extensively to represent myself against several lawsuits by collectors, all successful I might add.

I was also active in politics in NV for several years and have actually created legislation in the commercial transportation industry, and was also a labor advocate and union organizer for the Teamsters.

Needless to say, I have spent alot of time in court! I guess it paid off! I'm glad my efforts have helped someone else.


Juliana

Grand Prairie,
Texas,
U.S.A.

towards steve...

#11Consumer Comment

Tue, October 03, 2006

steve
that's some good advice. what is it you do? are you a lawyer or something like that. that's really all i was going to say.
that has to be the best advice i have read on this board.
kudos to steve!!!!


Eris

Stamford,
Connecticut,
U.S.A.

thanks for the advice steven

#11Author of original report

Mon, October 02, 2006

Dear Steven,
Yes, I did get a letter about settlement. After payment ( registered mail with return reciept the only way to make sure it was received)I got a letter stating the debt is paid. Thanks for the information.


Steve

Bradenton,
Florida,
U.S.A.

And, Some education for Fathiyyah - Burlington, New Jersey the COLLECTOR

#11Consumer Suggestion

Mon, October 02, 2006

Fathiyyah - Burlington, New Jersey,

Responsibility goes BOTH ways. When unsecured lenders start practicing RESPONSIBLE lending, I would agree with you. Until then, I laugh until my sides hurt every time I see someone else do to them what I did. They need education, and hurting them in the pocketbook is the only way to do it.

Extending credit to someone in financial trouble is like dangling food in front of a starving homeless person or drugs in front of a drug addict. Of course they will take it and use it. By human nature we take the path of least resistance, or the easy way out.

I had spotless credit for 14 years and a 735 credit score, however I also had no means of income for 8 months due to an injury. Guess what? Based on my credit score only, I wqas getting unsolicited credit cards with a starting limit of $10k, etc.

These "lenders" want to push the debtor to thier limits. In 14 years of excellent credit, I NEVER had even 1 lender do a means test on me, or verify my income or ability to pay. My DTI ratio was about 95%!! They had no idea.

Responsibility STARTS with the lender. They CHOOSE to give UNSECURED credit to people they should not give it to, therefore they deserve whatever happens for being irresponsible, arrogant and greedy.


Steve

Bradenton,
Florida,
U.S.A.

Eris, paying that collector was a BIG mistake!

#11Consumer Suggestion

Mon, October 02, 2006

I hope you got that "settlement" offer in writing BEFORE making your payment. If you didn't, this is FAR from over. Here's why.

By making that "settlement" you made a payment that restarted the SOL for collections enforcement, and you re-affirmed the debt.

You are no marked as an easy mark, and they WILL come after you for the rest. You can bet on the fact they will come after you for the other half, or they will sell it to another JUNK DEBT BUYER that will.

NEVER pay a third party collector, and NEVER speak to ANY collector on the phone. Doing either of these things will almost always cost you money.

It is NOT over. Guaranteed.


Eris

Stamford,
Connecticut,
U.S.A.

i thought i ended this discussion

#11Author of original report

Sun, October 01, 2006

Apparently you didn't like or read the NY Times article, as for my debt. I still think debt collectors are scum of the earth, my personal opinion. And if you read my second post I wrote END OF DISCUSSION. I settled with the company by paying half of what is owed. Please DROP THE SUBJECT!!!!!!!! THIS IS MY LAST REPSONSE TO THIS TOPIC,


Fathiyyah

Burlington,
New Jersey,
U.S.A.

stop putting yourself,in these situations

#11Consumer Comment

Sun, October 01, 2006

first of all, i would like to say,that i am a debt collector. I deal with all types of peole, and a debtors credit report tells you alot about a consumer. I try to educate people on their debt, because most carrer debtors dont read their contracts,especially with auto deficiency. I find that alot of people get upset with us because of their bad decisions.

Stop blaming the debt collector and take responsiblity for what youve done, You have used the goods and services of the credit card, chrged it up, let it charge off, and expect to walk away, thats flat out stealing. And the government needs to statr making debtors responsible and making career debtors be held criminally responsible for their actions,just as if you walked into the bank and robbed it. Thats a federal crime. So should credit card debt. This would stop people form signing on the bottom line line and think b4 you swipe


Eris

Stamford,
Connecticut,
U.S.A.

update

#11Author of original report

Thu, July 06, 2006

I may have misquoted some laws, BUT it doesn't stop collection agencies to have VERY nasty tone of voice and nasty underhanded illegal tactics. whether i owe or not, (I do) And i can't give money to you I don't have. I enjoyed this article and it brings to light all the illegal underhanded tactics,some collection agencies do. I did not write the article nor quoting it.

read Wedensday July 5, 2006 New York Times article on Debt collectors, it made front page news. www.nytimes.com so you can read it at your leisure, have a nice day. And for me this discussion and report is ended, For me time to move on...


Don

Belleville,
Illinois,
U.S.A.

just to add on to Steve

#11Consumer Suggestion

Tue, June 27, 2006

Steve is right. The collector gets your neighbours information from phone directories. When they call there, they can not tell the neighbour about the debt, but are legally allowed to ask for your contact information. Just like if you were trying to get your ex-girlfriends phone number. You can call and ask for a number.

Yes, it is more than possible for 6 different agents to call. In my office, we are given a large group of accounts (not sure how big it is). They are put on a dialer (unless state law prohibits this), which calls numbers. Any available agent could have the call. Yes, an agent can request the file for their personal "chain".

Fianlly, it is not paid by commission only. Most of it is paid hourly. However, if an agent achieves their monthly goal, they may receive commission on top anything else they collect. At least that is how it works in my office.


Steve

Bradenton,
Florida,
U.S.A.

Eris...You have some bad information...Here are the REAL facts.

#11Consumer Suggestion

Tue, June 27, 2006

Eris,

First, STAY OFF THE PHONE!! NEVER speak to any debt collector! Always demand it in writing. You can do this with a CEASE COMMUNICATION request as per your rights under the FDCPA.

Talking to them could re-validate the debt that may be past the legal SOL for collections.

They get your neighbors address from a reverse directory. Public records. Not illegal.

There is no requirement that they can only contact someone on your credit application, stc..
They can contact anyone to get your whereabouts, legally.

There is no magic $5000 rule that allows them to harass you. $1 is the same as $1million under the FDCPA.

Go to the FTC website and read and print out the FDCPA, as you really should study it so you have accurate information about your rights. FDCPA is Federal law which is the basis for all state laws. State laws can only exceed the protection of Fed law.

And as far as the commission only job, as an EMPLOYEE, that is illegal. An EMPLOYEE nust get at least minimum wage if they control your time and/or activities in any way. This is an illegal operation.

Knowledge is power, but you should not quote laws that do not exist.

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