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  • Report:  #396075

Complaint Review: Mystery Method - Love Systems

Mystery Method - Love Systems I signed up for the bootcamp that costs 3000 and instructor Moxie is a fraud. Sydney Australia

  • Reported By:
    San Francisco California
  • Submitted:
    Sun, November 30, 2008
  • Updated:
    Thu, January 29, 2009
  • Mystery Method - Love Systems
    www.mysterymethod.com
    Sydney,
    Australia
  • Phone:
    323-836 0150
  • Category:

I signed up for the Mystery Method bootcamp back in February 2008. The bootcamp was held in Hong Kong and the instructor's is Moxie. Moxie's real name is Brendan Elias. The bootamp cost 3 grand and mystery method (now LoveSystems) claims to help men attract women. During the bootcamp, Moxie was very rude to me especially when I asked a question. Brendan and a lot of other instructors that work for Mystery Method know NLP and how to expertly manipulate people. I was even coerced into giving a good review on camera. They make you write a testemonial right in front of the instructor so it's so unfomfortable to say anything bad.

The entire seminar schedule can be found here
http://www.themysterymethod.com/training-programs/bootcamps/

The instructor did not teach anything new, much of the techniques can be found in the venesian arts handbook or forums on the internet. They all leaked out and well known cheesy openers. and we were only allowed to record information on paper and we were not allowed to tape anything. There is not a single routine or tactic worked that night we were on the field. I got caught when I was doing sets that knew half of the openers we learned. On their website they claim

"an experienced instructor will even give you a play-by-play as to exactly what is happening in another instructor's set, and, more importantly, why it is happening"

Well this is what happened to me,
1) For the entire four hours on the field, I was only helped out once and that was just a brief two word suggestion telling me to "lock-in"
2) The instructors kept ignoring me because I was the youngest client in the seminar even through $3,000 was paid to mystery method.

I wholeheartedly regret taking this bootcamp and I'm very angry how they charge so much for a service that was supposed to "help" other men when It made me worse with women.

Greenball415
San Francisco, California
U.S.A.

1 Updates & Rebuttals


Love Systems

Los Angeles,
California,
U.S.A.

Details

#2REBUTTAL Owner of company

Thu, January 29, 2009

I'm not sure if this is a genuine complaint or competitor propaganda. We can't find any record of this incident (or of a "Moxie" or "Brendan Elias" program in San Francisco), nor has the would-be client contacted us.

That being said, I will assume good faith and assume that this is real. In which case, I want to say the following:

1. "Moxie" is not currently an instructor with Love Systems

2. This is not at all how Love Systems operates and would be completely unacceptable if it occurred. We have a five-year track record with thousands of satisfied clients. See independent and voluntary reviews on forums all over the internet, posted by clients in the privacy of their own homes after the event - for example http://www.theattractionforums.com/love-systems-reviews/.

3. We have a full money back guarantee, and this is communicated to all clients when they sign up for a program and in their participation agreement which they have to read and sign. If this is a real client, he should contact us and obtain full satisfaction.

4. In 5 years of running bootcamps, our refund rate is less than 0.5%. Most of our instructors have never had a customer request a refund.

For more information see www.LoveSystems.com

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