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  • Report:  #66141

Complaint Review: National SkipTracer

National Skip Tracer ripoff Deadbeats Best Friend? Loves to threaten and call Single Parents Prostitues. W. Park New York

  • Reported By:
    Springdale Arkansas
  • Submitted:
    Mon, August 25, 2003
  • Updated:
    Mon, October 06, 2003
  • National SkipTracer
    P.O. Box 396
    W. Park, New York
    U.S.A.
  • Phone:
    845-384-6124
  • Category:

Mr. Wallace Nolans threats and accusations of custodial parents and his claim to aide the Deadbeat parents.
This man was banned from a group because "we" as custodial parents did not buy into his services.
To the Public please be aware of this fraud. He will turn on you in a heartbeat.


Subj: Re: File - LEAVING GROUP
Date: 8/19/2003 10:47:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From: "W. Nolen"
To: P4CSE Members

Hey! I'm talking about all your members, not just you personally. When they find that all the outstanding judgments that they have suddenly are being
enforced - like seizure of bank accounts (with support money in it), their car's are seized, etc. to satisfy third party judgment remember you heard it from me! One of your members already has had her account frozen!

I don't like to be slandered or libeled, and since you allegedly are the "owner" of this group -- guess what! See you in court sooner than you think!

I can assure you I wouldn't want to help any of your groups members now! I wouldn't waste my time helping your members -- I'll help the creditor's that they owe money too so when (and if) they do get any money BINGO they will have to go to court to have the property execution set aside.

I was even going to give your group about 890 web sites to do free skiptracing but you'll never ever see it from me now! I will become your members worst legal nightmare!

You told me at 9 am that you would fix it! Your sure did. How long does it take to get a telephone call. I am reachable 24/7, but then again I am a business man not someone who lies around collecting public assistance like 99% of your members.

I never ever lie. I alway follow through with what I say. So you and the rest of your membership can live in infamy!

Enjoy your group while you still have it! See you in court and make sure you tell your members to put their money under their mattresses because it won't be
safe in any bank or credit union!

If I was unstable I would do what most men would do -- get violent, but I use my head, I get even, I dot every I and cross every T, doing it 100% legal and I make lots of money doing it!

You yourself claim that you "do admit that I am not sure why you were unsubscribed" so it is clear that they did something wrong.

I was Mr. Nice Guy, helping at least 25 of the membership find their deadbeats, but you know what, I am now going to call the deadbeats and tell them how to defeat anything that they could possible try to get!

Like I said, you "have made your bed" now sleep in it! As I said, I have plenty of business that I don't need to do work for free (like I did) and you can count on anything and everything that can legally be done against your
groups and its members will be done!

And by the way, when at least five of your members get arrested for prostitution, remember it came from me!

BYE!

W.Nolen
Custodial Parent
Anytown, Oklahoma
U.S.A.

3 Updates & Rebuttals


Stella

Modesto,
California,
U.S.A.

I was one of those VICTIMS!

#4Consumer Comment

Mon, October 06, 2003

I was sent an e-mail from Wallace Nolan. HIS e-mail address is:

wnolan@hvc.rr.com

Peter's is ALSO from hvc.rr.com.

Peter, I think you and Wallace Nolan are one in the same. That is MY opinion. Please read very slowly so you will understand.

======================
In the following message, you will notice Wallace Nolan fabricating the truth, because he was kicked out of a group because Wallace Nolan used the information from our deadbeats to track the deadbeats down and threaten our members:

> --- In xxxxxxxxx@yahoogroups.com, "W. Nolen"
> wrote:
> > Don't listen to her. When I tried to help and
> actually did help
> about 2 dozen of their members find their
> "deadbeats" they decided
> that I was too much of a "threat" and then started
> to slander and
> defame me.
> > They they got a single
> member who "begged
> me" to help her and I quoted her a small fee of $100
> and next thing I
> know I am supposedly breaking some kind of rule/law
> or who the heck
> knows what!
> >
> > I even got a company to offer FREE SEARCHES where
> their members
> could email this company and for FREE this company
> would send each
> one privately the results. Well that company
> stopped that too!
> >
(I have the
> entire list plus
> little do they know I have a spy who joined before I
> did) so I know
> every single message they have sent about me and all
> the
> other "questionable activities"!
> >
> >
> > LOL
> >
> >
> > W. S. Nolen
> > P.O. Box 396
> > W. Park NY 12496-0306
> >
> > email: wnolen@hvc.rr.com
> > voice telephone: (845)384-6124
================

So Peter, why don't you tell everyone what YOUR e-mail address is and they can all see that you and Wallace Nolan are in the same kind of 'business'??
================
Here is the e-mail he used to get our business (notice the e-mail addresses!!! And if you don't believe this, you can take a look at Wallace's Yahoo profile, which CLEARLY has National Skiptracer as his yahoo e-mail address. :)
http://profiles.yahoo.com/national_skiptracer
Ohh would you look at that!! His location! Esopus NY ....isn't that the same location as YOU, Peter?? Or is it Wallace? )
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From: "W. Nolen"
Date: Sun Aug 17, 2003 7:49 am
Subject: Re: [xxxxx] Re: W. Nolen

A few days ago, I mentioned that there is a local (to me) company that was
offering free searches of some of their data bases. I know a few thousands
people (yes there were men and women both!) who used this service and many
got
some success (if not a direct hit, some leads) that helped them locate the
deadbeat).


For those of you that may have missed it their email is:

nst@hvc.rr.com

Send them:

Full Name;
DOB/Approximate Age;
Last Known Residence addresses
Last Known Businesses and addresses;
Social Security number(s) used;
If there is any outstanding warrants which court and jurisdiction is holding
the warrant.


Some companies that have many staff to handle this kind of stuff can
survive,
but I have myself and my wife (yes I am happily married for almost 4 years
now!) that run my business where we have a few employees but lots of
corresponding agencies worldwide that we work with.

I work about 20 hours 7 days a week, especially holidays! When you "guys"
are
celebrating New Years and Christmas and Thanksgiving, I am making people
miserable catching them totally off-guard.

I am working on putting together a large group of urls which I plan to post
(now that I got a moderator's approval) which should be up in about 1 more
week. (Good things come to those who wait!)

W. S. Nolen
P.O. Box 396
W. Park NY 12496-0306

email: wnolen@hvc.rr.com
voice telephone: (845)384-6124

======================
Here is a chat I just had with Wallace Nolan CLEARLY stating he OWNS National Skiptracer
======================


xxxxxxx: hello?
national_skiptracer: Hi!
xxxxxxx: Hi!
xxxxxxx: I saw your profile
national_skiptracer: What up?
national_skiptracer: Where are you from?
xxxxxxx: I see that you expose public corruption, what do you mean by that?
xxxxxxx: I am from california
national_skiptracer: Well, let's see. Here in NY most public officials are required to take an oath (to adhere to the Constitution of US and NY) and to file a bond, but hundreds don't. Overcharging the public for such things as Freedom of Information Law Requests, bribery, conflicts of interests, you name it, I do it!
xxxxxxx: Do you find people who are not wanted for anything?
national_skiptracer: don't know what you mean?
xxxxxxx: Well let's say I know someone who I think might have done something illegal, only I don't know where this person is to even find out the truth. Only way i can do that is if I know where this person is
national_skiptracer: Yes, I "skiptrace" people all day long. That's what I do for a living.
xxxxxxx: Is your business a legitimate business? Do you have a license? Do you have your own business or do you work for someone?
xxxxxxx: I need someone serious, I cant play around anymore
xxxxxxx: This is too important
national_skiptracer: Here in New York State, if a person needs to be located for certain permissible purposes, (e.g. to serve legal papers, to claim abandoned/unclaimed property, etc.) a PI license is not required. I run a legitimate business and I also work for other companies, attorneys/law firms, PI's and collection agencies.
national_skiptracer: Most of the time it only takes seconds to a few minutes to find someone.
xxxxxxx: Do you have a contract that I can view? Sign possibly? And where can I send the money?
national_skiptracer: I charge $100, payable when found.
xxxxxxx: Is national skiptrace a business?
national_skiptracer: Yes!
xxxxxxx: Oh I think I have heard of them...this is your busines??
xxxxxxx: Do I sign a contract? How do I get one?
national_skiptracer: "National Skiptracer" toll-free number (866)SKIPTRAC(e) (866)754-7872
xxxxxxx: Can you fax it?
national_skiptracer: You can send it email or give it to me here.
xxxxxxx: Oh National Skiptracer is your business?
national_skiptracer: Yes
xxxxxxx: Hence the name
xxxxxxx: Ok, my fax number is 1-815-461-5063
xxxxxxx: When I get it, I will sing and send in the information
xxxxxxx: sign
national_skiptracer: Just give us the information and we will attempt to locate the subject. If we are successful, we contact you with the information and only at that time, when you are convinced that the subject is found you pay us $100.
xxxxxxx: Ok, sounds good to me.
national_skiptracer: Our email is nst@hvc.rr.com
xxxxxxx: Oh ok, so I don't have to sign a contract?
national_skiptracer: That's right!
xxxxxxx: Wow!
xxxxxxx: This is easy
national_skiptracer: No money up front! It is that easy!
xxxxxxx: Ok, good. Well let me get on sending that information to you. I appreciate it, thank you.
national_skiptracer: We average about 50,000 locates a month of which we are successful about 87% of the time.
xxxxxxx: Well it sounds like a dream, I can't wait to find this person. Thank you.
national_skiptracer: We never ever run out of work as everyone has someone they need to locate!
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There ya go Peter and everyone else interested in this business. Be careful...


Wannamae

Springdale,
Arkansas,
U.S.A.

Threatened by Nolen ..this person is very much unstable..

#4Consumer Comment

Mon, October 06, 2003

I was a member of this Parents 4 Child Support Enforcement when 'Mr Nolen' aka "National Skiptracer" was claiming to be a part of this company.

I recieved a few leads for my Deadbeat, however there was nothing concrete.

Mr Nolen, did make this Statement up above and it was sent to the owner of this group. The owner from what I understand posted this in the group because the Owner was making it's Members aware of the threats and accuastions from this 'Nolen' person.

I have done a bit of searching and Mr Nolen is still offering the service, and uses this Company's name as his own.

This is a profile of the person who sent the threatening e-mail to Members of P4CSE.

http://profiles.yahoo.com/national_skiptracer

If this is true what you say about this person not working for or being a part of your Company, you may need to find out who this person is and put a stop to him.

From what I see and have read this person is very much unstable..


Peter

Esopus,
New York,
U.S.A.

FALSE INFORMATION GIVEN

#4UPDATE Employee

Fri, October 03, 2003

First, Mr. Nolen has never ever been an employee of National Skiptracer!

The telephone number provided has never ever been used by National Skiptracer!

The post office box provided has never ever been used by National Skiptracer!

The signer of the letter supposedly is "W. NOLEN" in somewhere in Oklahoma! (Why would Mr. Nolen, who supposedly is the subject of this "report" send in clearly slanderous and libelous information on not only himself as well as our company.

Nothing in the supposed copy of the email that purports to be sent by Mr. Nolen, or about Mr. Nolen ever mentions where National Skiptracer enters into the picture.

National Skiptracer has never ever been a member of the group mentioned, nor has ever posted anything to this group.

For a very short time, until we started getting harassed by phoney emails, we were offering a FREE, no obligation service where we were helping hundreds of males/females locate their debeats for FREE, we stopped such service. Perhaps one of these IRATE persons could have posted this.

We respectfully request that this information be immediately removed as it is clear that it is false, slanderous, libelous, and was done with the sole purpose of harassing us and for no lawful purpose.

We have provided our toll-free telephone number of (866)754-7872. Let's see what proof if any that can substantiate anything, especially the involvement of our firm!

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