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NISSAN USA / NISSAN CONSUMER AFFAIRS NISSAN TERMINATES MY NEW VEHICLE WARRANTY AFTER 2 MONTHS AND LESS THEN 3,000 MILES BECAUSE THEY CAN!!! FRANKLIN Tennessee
1) December 9th 2005 I had purchased a 2006 Nissan Armada Se-4X4 Off-Road Edition from Riverside Metro Auto Group LLC, they are certified Nissan and Infiniti Dealers, they are located in Riverside CA just outside of Los Angeles, CA. I have all the documentation from the deal, the bill of sale clearly states it is a NEW vehicle, I have a signed odometer statement clearly stating the vehicle had 28 miles. I paid $35,900 pre tax which included a Lo-Jack tracking device to be installed with 10 days which was installed I gave the dealer a check for 900.00 and financed this deal through NMAC @ 4% for 60 months.
2) Approximately March of 2006 I paid the Loan for the vehicle in full.
3) Unbeknownst to myself Nissan USA terminated my New Vehicle Warranty approximately February 10th 2006. Nissan Consumer Affairs is and has refused to send me any documentation, Nissan failed to notify me, I received absolutely no notification and had absolutely no idea this had accrued,
4) Approximately May of 2006 I received a California Title for the vehicle.
5) August 10th 2006 I relocated to the East Coast, I had decided I would take some time and drive the Armada cross country.
6) September 2006 I took the Armada to my Local Dealer on the East Coast Acme Nissan for a regular oil change and I also to repair the backside of the Passenger seat. There was a seam in the leather that was opening. It was at this time that I was first advised this Vehicle had no Warranty.
I aways had the vehicle serviced at Nissan Dealers, every 3 thousand miles I had the oil changed, even had the 7,500 miles service 15,000miles etc factory service and always at Nissan dealers, and no dealer ever told me of any warranty issue although I never asked for any warranty work until September 2006.
7) I immediately contacted Riverside Metro Auto Group LLC, after they looked into the matter they came to conclusion that the California DMV had branded the Vehicle as NOT ACTUAL MILAGE, they told me that it was an error by the DMV and they would fix the situation. Riverside Metro Auto Group LLC, explained the situation to Acme Nissan and Acme Nissan agreed to fixed the seat while this was being worked out.
Within the next couple of days Riverside Metro Auto Group LLC contacts me and requests I send them a copy of the California Title. When I arrived in New Jersey I had by Law 10 days to register the vehicle and so when applying for a New Jersey registration I had no choice but to surrender the California Title to the New Jersey DMV. Riverside Metro Auto Group LLC then requested I send them a copy of the New Jersey Title, which by the way says the vehicle is of actual mileage. Riverside Metro Auto Group LLC told me they had sent a copy of the Title to Nissan and the warranty was going to be reinstated, but they were still having trouble getting CA DMV to remove the NOT ACTUAL MILLAGE in their records. I had also tried on many occasions to get CA to remove this in their records I had spent more hours on hold then I care to remember. Riverside Metro Auto Group LLC had then informed me that my warranty was reinstated, but after rechecking I had found out that in fact the Warranty was NOT reinstated. After having many more conversations with Riverside Metro Auto Group LLC, including someone who claims to be the owner I have still gotten nowhere in terms of my Warranty.
8) By now I'm totally fed up and I decide I just want to trade in this Armada, yep no one will touch it, every time someone runs a report it comes as NT ACTUALL MILAGE, everyone tells me I'm screwed that the vehicle is pretty much worthless. Now I'm even more pissed off, I call the dealer back, they blow me off, again there is nothing they could for me and the owner of Riverside Metro Auto Group LLC is sorry for my trouble but he says he has done everything he can.
8) Finally May 19th 08 after hours of being transferred around the head office in the CA, DMV which is in Sacramento I get lucky and I come in contact with really super nice woman in an investigation support unit, (you would think someone would have directed me to this unit before) anyways I tell her my story and give the VIN etc and she tells me she will look into it for me and call me back.
Well about a hour later I get a call back from her, she had researched the micro film and found that in fact the DMV had made a mistake. She told me she was going to immediately adjust the records to show that the vehicle did have the actual millage.
She also sent me a letter which states that they had made an error and that this vehicle should not have been branded as NOT ACTUALL Millage and that the vehicle history record is clean.
9) I contact Nissan Consumer Affairs, I have spoken with 3 different agents and 1 supervisor, even though I now have this letter from the CA DMV, they still refuse to reinstate the Warranty. Again I contacted Riverside Metro Auto Group LLC, they are now starting to get a little worried because they checked with the CA DMV and the record for the Vehicle is clean, they also contacted Nissan Consumer Affairs and have they can't get them to reinstate the warranty either even though the CA DMV record has been fixed and it was clearly a mistake.
10) After thinking about this, no matter what happens now this Armada is branded and is worthless. The reason I come to this conclusion is because even Nissan USA / Nissan Consumer Affairs is giving me a hard time (to put it mildly) so if Nissan who knows dam well the history is giving me such a hard time. to test my theroy I brought the vehicle to an Infinity dealer near me, they ran a car fax and questioned me about it, even after I showed all them all my documentation they still don't want the car, I did the same with a BMW dealer and had the same response.
I would like to know,
can I force Nissan or the dealer to take the truck back and give me a full refund plus damages for all my anguish and heart ache over this matter.
For heaven sakes, I paid $36,000 for a Brand new truck, 2 months after that Nissan terminates the new vehicle warranty, even the power train warranty is was cancelled!
Mel
EAST BRUNSWICK, New Jersey
U.S.A.
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Mel
EAST BRUNSWICK,New Jersey,
U.S.A.
NISSAN USA / EVEN AFTER THE CA DMV CORRECTS THE PROBLEM, NISSAN STILL WILL NOT REINSTATE ANY WARRANTY
#5Author of original report
Sun, May 25, 2008
CHECK THIS OUT! Nissan USA's department for consumer affairs is located in Toronto, Ontario, Canada, (ok, at least not India) but same effect! less American jobs!
Back to the issue of my problem.
I agree with Robert 100% that this problem was caused by the CA DMV.
using this point of view I would like to ask this, how is it that Nissan or any automobile manufacture can just cancel a new vehicle warranty because of a DMV error? Let me explain my position.
This is a brand new vehicle, the Nissan employee that made the decision to VOID the warranty had to see the record for the vehicle there fore had see it was a brand new vehicle and the recorded mileage in dispute with the DMV is only 28 miles. So why is it acceptable for Nissan not to notify me right away and tell me there is a problem? Why are they not required to notify me? what if there really is some type of fraud from the dealer?
Before you reply, remember I only gave the dealer 900.00 I financed 35,000 through NMAC, this means I don't get to see the TITLE for the vehicle, NISSAN HOLDS THE TITLE!!!!!! how the hell am I to know there is this NOT ACTUAL MILAGE PROBLEM???
by the way I asked the investigator IN THE CA DMV, how Nissan was notified. She told me that Nissan had to pull it themselves because they don't send out any notice's!!! So why is it Nissan pulls this information and would just cut the new vehicle off no questions asked? A consumer affairs rep told me last week that they were notified Feb 10th of 2006, I think I know what happened now, I took the vehicle in for its first service at the dealer that sold me the vehicle and guess what, yep I serviced it on Feb 10th 2006!
Mel
Mel
EAST BRUNSWICK,New Jersey,
U.S.A.
Nissan should have at the very least notified me
#5Author of original report
Sat, May 24, 2008
Robert, I'm afraid you may be right, bottom line is Nissan is taking that stand.
But come on, remember I didn't buy the vehicle out right so I wasn't sent a copy of the title, so how am I to know the DMV made an error when regestering the vehicle? My point is this, had Nissan notified me or the dealer right away, (when they cancelled the new vehicle warranty) we could straightened this out right away with no problem.
Come on Robert, this was a new vehicle with a loan from NMAC!! why do you think is it accaptable for Nissan to just cancel the warranty with out advising me the new vehicle their dealer sold me has a problem with the milage or at the very least contact the dealer to find out what is going on? Your reply is the same as Nissan and as far as I'm concerned it is not accaptable. The Nissan employee could see the record of the vehicle, therefore they would know it was sold by a Nissan dealer as a new vehicle and this should have caused a further investagition to the issue and the dealer and I should have been notified at-once.
the fact that they did nothing caused the problem to escalate to the point it is at today.
If you think they handled the situation correctly, you had better never buy a new vehicle from Nissan, this could happen to you also.
Mel
Mel
EAST BRUNSWICK,New Jersey,
U.S.A.
Nissan should have at the very least notified me
#5Author of original report
Sat, May 24, 2008
Robert, I'm afraid you may be right, bottom line is Nissan is taking that stand.
But come on, remember I didn't buy the vehicle out right so I wasn't sent a copy of the title, so how am I to know the DMV made an error when regestering the vehicle? My point is this, had Nissan notified me or the dealer right away, (when they cancelled the new vehicle warranty) we could straightened this out right away with no problem.
Come on Robert, this was a new vehicle with a loan from NMAC!! why do you think is it accaptable for Nissan to just cancel the warranty with out advising me the new vehicle their dealer sold me has a problem with the milage or at the very least contact the dealer to find out what is going on? Your reply is the same as Nissan and as far as I'm concerned it is not accaptable. The Nissan employee could see the record of the vehicle, therefore they would know it was sold by a Nissan dealer as a new vehicle and this should have caused a further investagition to the issue and the dealer and should have been notified at-once.
the fact that they did nothing caused the problem to escalate to the point it is at today.
If you think they handled the situation correctly, you had better never buy a new vehicle from Nissan, this could happen to you also.
Mel
Robert
Irvine,California,
U.S.A.
Here's your problem...
#5Consumer Comment
Sat, May 24, 2008
The CA DMV made the mistake. You even have a letter from the DMV that says they "screwed up". This effectivly takes Nissan off the hook for a majority of the issues if you tried to get some compensation from them. Yes Nissan probably should have known to direct you there sooner, but is this enough for them to provide any sort of compensation???
Now, once this was fixed by the DMV then it becomes a totally separate issue. Nissan should reinstate the warranty if that is the reason it was cancelled. Since it was sold in CA you probably have to deal with the CA regulations. Hopefully you have the Warranty Suplement from your Nissan still. If so it lists by state the process to take for warranty issues. For CA it seems to mainly deal with the "lemon law" but may apply in your situation. I would post it here but it is about 2 pages of text that I would need to type in.
If you did try to push it in court, even in the best scenerio you are NOT going to get a full refund on a 2.5 year old vehicle that you didn't even need to use the warranty until a year later. Remember it was the DMV's fault and not Nissan in the beginning. However, it would be a very simple case to get at least your out of pocket costs for anything that should have been covered under warranty. The question is who do you go after the DMV(who made the mistake) or Nissan(who cancelled your warranty because of the DMV's mistake)?