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Complaint Review: Northweast Airlines

Northwest Airlines NWA has truly let us down. Minneapolis Minnesota

  • Reported By:
    Ridgefield New Jersey
  • Submitted:
    Thu, October 25, 2007
  • Updated:
    Wed, March 05, 2008
  • Northweast Airlines
    7500 Airline Drive
    Minneapolis, Minnesota
    U.S.A.
  • Phone:
    701-420-6282
  • Category:

I am reporting NWA on behalf of my mother and sister's experience on October 14, 2007. Please note that the two of them were travelling alone. As you will read, the part that makes me most upset is the lack of compassion demonstrated by NWA when my family requested assistance. Naturally, flights are delayed and airlines cannot be expected to make accommodations for every passenger affected. However, I believe that associates of the airline need to be compassionate and accommodate their customers to the best of their abilities. As you will see here, not only were our expectations not met, every aspect of the experience was dismal. The story below is told from my Mother's experience ('we' refers to my mother and sister):

We arrived at the airport with plenty of time to spare and checked in with no problems. Our flight took off maybe a couple minutes early. I was happy because I knew that we would have no problem making our connection.

During the flight, the pilot announced that the Minneapolis Airport was asking them to hold for a little bit because (I think) they had to close one runway. The pilot said that if he had to hold, all of the connecting flights would probably have to hold as well, and there should be no problem with people getting to their connections. He said that on his computer screen, it showed zero problems with any connecting flights. After a little while, the pilot said that he did not have to hold, and that we should be landing right on time.

After landing and taxing, he had to stop to let some planes go by that needed to take off. At that time, I looked at my ticket and saw that it was the time that the ticket said they were going to start boarding my next flight. I started getting nervous. When we finally got to the gate, I had to wait for people to get off the plane. I saw that we were in the "A" concourse and needed to be in the "G" concourse (other end of the airport). I told your sister to run ahead of me to the gate and I would catch up. We both had our backpacks on our backs. Your sister's bag weighed 21.5 lbs. (we weighed it).

I started running down the halls and did not realize that my backpack had come unzipped, so all of a sudden, everything started falling out. Your sister saw and started to come to help me. I told her to just go and run ahead. Some man came to help me and some lady had some bags and they started putting things in the bag for me. So now I have my backpack on my back and extra things in my arms that had fallen out. I didn't know that I had more things in my backpack because a few minutes later, someone said, "Ma'am, you dropped some things." Again, I had to stop and pick things up. And again, I got up to keep running.

Meanwhile, my throat, mouth and lips completely dried up. I was breathing so hard and trying to lick my lips, but there was no liquid. I thought I would have a heart attack, and I didn't know if I should stop for water somewhere. I then heard over the loud speaker, "Final call" for my flight and they said, "Paging different passengers names, and then our names."

Three carts drove past me, and I asked the drivers if they would take me to my gate. They each had a different excuse as to why they couldn't. I didn't know what to do when they paged me. There were no telephones, or people with walkie-talkies to call the gate. I was still running and my cell phone starts ringing. I knew that it must by your sister, but I couldn't answer it, I had no hands, nor any time, nor any breath. As I see the sign for Concourse G, I saw another woman driving a cart with a "G" on the front. I begged her to take me to my gate. She was coming towards me, and she turned her head around and said, "You're not that much farther. You can get there." And she drove off. I screamed, "Please! They called my name!" She just drove off.

When I finally got to the concourse, I saw the gate all the way at the end, and your sister was standing at the desk. When I finally got there, she said, "Mom, the plane was here when I got here, but these ladies wouldn't wait." I looked at the two women agents and said, "WHAT?!?!?! YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!!! They said, "We already had closed the door, and once the door is closed, we can't let anyone on." Your sister said the plane was there and then started to leave. It had just left the gate when I got there.

I started screaming, telling the agents everything, from the time the pilot told us about having to hold, and the connecting flights, etc. I told them that I almost had a heart attack running to get there, and that I didn't know what to do when they paged me. I asked, "What am I supposed to do now, I have to get home TONIGHT!?"

They said that I had to go downstairs to the main ticket agent. I said to them, I cannot walk another step. I need a cart. The ladies said to go sit on the blue chairs. I looked around and only saw gray chairs. At this point, I was so angry (and you know that it takes a lot for me to get angry, especially in public). I never scream in public. I let out such a loud, "WHERE THE HECK ARE THE BLUE CHAIRS????" (I also never use any kind of bad language). The ladies looked at me (I thought they were going to call security, which I wish they did).

I sat on the stupid blue chairs, which they showed me where they were. I waited. No carts. I finally saw some man who worked for the airport and asked him to call for a cart. A few minutes later, a cart was driving by, I didn't know if that was the right one, but I just jumped on and told him to take me to the ticket agent.

When we got to the agent, he said the same thing. I said that I had to get home tonight and to see when the next flight to Tampa or Sarasota was. He looked and said that there was nothing until tomorrow (Monday). It was only 7:05. I said, "There are no flights at all going to Florida tonight?" Nope, not until tomorrow. I told him that I had to be at work at 8:30 A.M. on Monday and that your sister had to be in school. He said there was nothing he could do. I asked if they were going to pay me for my lost wages, since I would miss a whole day of work? He said no, but they would give me a "Delay Certificate" that would let my boss know that I missed my connecting flight. I told him that I was not worried that my boss would think that I lied about missing my flight, I was concerned about losing my wages for the day. He said that was all he could do.

I asked him to call a supervisor. He did, (which was useless). This jerk was just that. He told the guy to look at Delta and see what they had. Nothing. I asked if there were any flights that night or Monday to Sarasota. My airline had one flight, but it was full. The supervisor said that I could only use Delta to go to Tampa, which was where I was booked for. Unbelievable!!! I asked if they would put me up for the night at a motel. No, but they would give me a discount voucher for a hotel. They also gave me $5.00 food vouchers to use at the airport (great for McDonald's or Subway).

Your father and I kept calling each other. He was fuming. He wanted to talk to the supervisor, and I asked the supervisor if he would talk to your father, and he said, "No, because I know that he is going to yell at me, and I don't want to hear it." Do you believe that?!?!?! There is no more customer service left in any industry. No one cares about the customer. No more is there, "The customer is always right," or "The customer comes first." Oh no.

At this point, I did not want to leave the airport. I just wanted to stay in case anything else went wrong. I went down to baggage claim to see if they knew where my luggage was, and they did not. There had been no time to scan the luggage, so they were not sure if my luggage had made the flight (which I said, "How could my luggage make the flight if I didn't?" The lady answered by saying, "They have shortcuts on the conveyer belts." I said, "Well then, why didn't they put ME on the conveyer belt?") She was actually very nice. I told her that I couldn't believe that she worked for Northwest Airlines. She said that it would probably be in Tampa when I got there tomorrow, by either going out on the first flight to Tampa, or it would be on my flight, which it did end up being.

I spoke to your Grandfather and he convinced me to stay in a hotel. I did not want to leave, but he said that I should get a good night's sleep. So I went back to the ticket agent and asked him to get me a discount at a hotel. He called and got me a room at the Radisson. He said that they have a free shuttle that goes back and forth to the airport. He said to go to where the shuttles are, there is a courtesy phone, and call the Radisson.

When I got to the place that he said, I couldn't find the phones. I asked a woman and she showed me the phones, but said that they were not working. (Boy, was I in the "Out of Towners" or what?!?!?!) I used my cell phone to call, and a shuttle came in 2 minutes. We got to the Radisson and checked in. The people there were so nice and understanding. They gave us a beautiful room, but I could have had you and your family stay with us. We had a huge king-size bed, a pull-out sofa, and bunk beds in the same room.

Your sister went to use the bathroom, and then I did. When I flushed the toilet, the water started to come to the top and did not flush down. I had to call down for a plumber. It was 9:50 and Julianne was hungry. I had bought us sandwiches earlier in the day, that we were going to eat on our "connecting flight," but she wanted something else. The restaurant was closing at 10. I called back downstairs and asked if I could leave the room for the plumber, and the girl said that I had to be there. When I said that I wanted to go to the restaurant, she asked if we wanted room service. There was no menu in the room, so I said no because I didn't know what we wanted. The girl said that she would call the guy and tell him that he could come in the room.

We left the room and right as we shut the door, I realized that I left the keys in the room. I said that we would get another key on our way back, but when I went to sign for the bill in the restaurant, I realized that I needed the key to prove that I was staying in the hotel (which I really didn't).

We then went back upstairs and your father called and wanted to talk to your sister. She was talking to him on my phone and decided to wash her hands. As she was holding the phone on her neck, the phone fell into the sink, in the water. There went my phone. ("Out of Towners?") We finally went to sleep, had a good sleep (was glad your Grandfather talked me into staying in the hotel). We got up and took the shuttle back to the airport in time to use our vouchers to buy Subway sandwiches for lunch, and to have a nice organic breakfast at another place. We got to the gate at the presumed boarding time, and guess what? THE FREAK'IN PLANE WAS DELAYED!!!! The expressionless agents said that the plane had just landed and would be boarding in a few minutes. That was a joke. We had to wait a 1/2 hour past the few minute time. Why couldn't that have been the case the night before? I cannot win!!!

We got to Tampa about 40 minutes later than we were supposed to, but at least we got back safely. Again, the dissappointment in this whole story is how NWA's agents treated us with such dissrespect and disregard as if we garbage. This is why Southwest and Jet Blue airlines are taking market share. Not because their fares are perceived to be less (in some cases they're not), but because they are trained to care. Thanks for taking the time to read this experience.

Njcpa31
Ridgefield, New Jersey
U.S.A.

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6 Updates & Rebuttals


HOT RIP

NY,
New York,
U.S.A.

Vegetarian Avoid NWA by all means, if you fly long haul. (CHICKEN IN VGML LABELLED TRAY)

#7Consumer Comment

Wed, March 05, 2008

My first ever journey with NWA came out to be a bitter experience. Let me just narrate the story in short.
I started from Seoul to Detroit by NWA flight on 18th of Feb 2008. the ticket was booked few weeks in advance with all iterinary and meal preferences confirmed. After flight took off Incheon airport, the flight attendant came with polite smile and told me your meal is confirmed. And she wished me a good flight. But to my wonder when actual food came with VGML label and my name on tray, what i found inside the tray there was full bowl of Chicken which was later confirmed by same attendant. though the lable was confirming food to be VGML. Attendant said she doesn;t have any replacement for this, however she tried to help me with food from business class which again was not vegetarian. My journey was 15 hours long and such careless treatment and that too my first ever journey with NWA, i got shocked. To put more salt on my wound she offered me vouchers of 10$ , so that I can go and eat after 15 hours of flight, till then I was expected to remain starved.

With this experience I have decided never to travel by NWA again in my life. I often use European , gulf or other wonderful Asian airlines like SIA, cathay,Asiana.
It made me feel that these north American based airlines are just pathetic as I heard in terms of customer service . On top of that she didn;t give me any feedback form and advised me to go and check website to login my comments.

Vegetarians please beaware that you are not in good hands if you ever want to travel by NWA for long haul flights. other observations I made in terms of dirty restrooms, aged attendants , limited food, limited drinks(that too if you pay separate for drinks), broken headphones. of course the leased smiles on the faces were bit of air in desert.

Hope such airlines do wonderful business by ripping off their customers who has little or least respect for vegetarians.

Would you like to travel by NWA after reading by terrible experience. Good bye NWA, you don;t get my business, I would take normal Asia or Europe based airlines who treat me as normal passenger with respect.

Finally after lot of trouble and miserable journey after 2 weeks I got a reply from their customer service and she said this concern has been forwarded to director food service.

This airline is a big joke specially when you fly over different continents. Please steer clear from this airlines, else you will loose your peace of mind plus you will starve, probably you might get some vouchers as compensation of your starvation and lip service from their customer service agents.

I feel these kind of airlines cannot be competent and hence their business. It makes them one of worst airline to fly .

Vegetarian just be alert that they would call your meal preferences as very special dietary need, as you don't eat dead animals however you may be vegetarian from your birth which is nothing special. This airline is hardly educated enough to even respect vegetarian customers. They don't deserve our business.
Just avoid by all means if you do not want too loose your peace of mind.


Njcpa31

Ridgefield,
New Jersey,
U.S.A.

Reality is cruel

#7Author of original report

Wed, October 31, 2007

Once again, thank you both very much for your comments. Tips from frequent travellers like yourselves are very handy. No question that customers should always act respectfully and calmly to company agents regularly. In fact, I am a huge proponent of your quote "honey traps more flies...," however the stress levels that rose in this situation (and rise everyday in airports across the country) are commonplace. Again, I just feel like airline (and airport) personnel acknolwedge that a function of their job is having have to deal with (and diffuse) customers that scream, curse, etc at them because something happened. Cases where customers become uncontrollable is one situation, but these personnel need to be able to calmly handle irate customers. As the infamous Hyman Roth stated, "Michael, this is the lfie that we have chosen for ourselves." In his case, he couldn't get out of his profession, but these personnel have a choice, put up or shut up. It's a shame that we as consumers have to be the ones who modify our attitudes to appease those whom we are paying our hard earned income to. Again, customers who are a threat and cannot be diffused should be dealt with accordingly, but those who are upset need to be diffused by the customer service personnel. Thanks.


Karl

Clovis,
New Mexico,
U.S.A.

NWA Attitude

#7Consumer Suggestion

Wed, October 31, 2007


I don't know your family and am hearing only one side of the story but screaming at the gate agent rarely accomplishes anything. You are right about the lack of "customer Service" evidenced by airlines nowdays. I used to fly extensively - at least once every week or two -for 20 years and after deregulation everything changed. New budget airlines appeared on the scene and the majors had to compete by lowering fares and cutting amenities. American for instance uses automated check in machines solely to cut down on the number of counter personnel. Tempers are very touchy on people who don't know whether or not they will be employed next month.

My impression of airline personnel with the exception of Southwest is that they are pretty formal. They do what is required and not much more. Planes are full -luggage is lost -planes are delayed - flights are cancelled -and it doesn't help matters to have passengers scream at them or curse at them which I've noticed more and more over the last 8 or 10 years. I try and be calm, very polite, and I sympathize with the counter agents and gate personnel. I usually then get what I want. Gate and counter agents have a lot of latitude as to what they can offer passengers and irate passengers end up sleeping on the floor someplace. Most instances of non-help comes from the customer's attitude, not the agent's.

The cart incidents were definately wrong. I would direct a letter to the Airport Authority and complain. In all my years of travel I have never seen a cart not stop for someone who was elderly. A cart can also be arranged at the departure gate for the next airport if a connection is required. A wheelchair can be requested as well. My mother, in her 90's and perfectly ambulatory, always requested a wheelchair when she had a close connection.


James

New York,
New York,
U.S.A.

As I read the situation.....

#7Consumer Suggestion

Wed, October 31, 2007

.....your major complaint is with the cart people - which I certainly understand. However, are you aware that they are not employed by the airline? They are under contract to the airport, not any given airline. So, you were upset about that, and by your own admission, started your experience with Northworst by screaming at them. Trust me, at that point, your fate was already decided. Something about catching more flies with honey ??????

And, were it not for your own property (backpack) causing you problems, you would have made the flight. Furthermore, it appears to me that the airline itself was pretty much business as usual. They issued a final boarding call, they paged all passengers not yet checked in, etc., etc., and then they closed the flight. And it's closing flights that causes more customers to be angry than almost anything else. Like it or not, that plane is filled with people that allowed enough time to get there, get checked in, and board accordingly, yet there is almost someone who thinks the plane should be held for one person - or in your case two. Not to mention that the paperwork has been completed, the passenger manifest is done, etc.

Your experience is why I (almost) never put myself on the last flight of the day to anywhere. You need options at that point if you don't want to spend the night. So, I would suggest that everyone look at the full schedule and plan accordingly in the future.

Finally, in the future, keep your composure and let the airline try to help you. I've found this to work well in most every case. I dropped from Platinum to Gold on Delta this year, and have literally been all over the world with them, and I assure you that playing nice will get you to your destination much more quickly. Good luck!


Njcpa31

Ridgefield,
New Jersey,
U.S.A.

This is not about the situation, it's about how NWA reacted to the situation..

#7Author of original report

Tue, October 30, 2007

First, thank you for taking the time to read the entire comment. I appreciate it. You are right in that my family are non-frequent fliers and this was more than likely their first visit to the Minneapolis airport. The delayed landing into the airport and the fact that they could not hold the plane was absolutely not Northwest's fault.
However, the manner in which Northwest treated my family in this situation was completely unacceptable. My whole intention with this report and frustration is the lack of customer compassion that was provided by NWA. Their fault or not, it's about how NWA assisted them in resolving their situation - doing what passengers pay a lot of money for.

Let's start with the three passenger carts drove by and would not stop to help them make it to their gate. Maybe they were on break, but the non-compassionate remarks and the fact that one driver did not even look at my family as she drove by shows a lack of caring about them at least attempting to make it to the gate. The NWA personnel at the gate who coldly indicated that there was nothing that they could do, again demonstrates this lack of compassion. The Supervisor who refused to speak with my Father is another example. I don't care if the Supervisor or personnel experience this type of thing all the time - this is about exceeding customer expectations. They accept their compensation, gladly or not, from NWA - it's time they start earning it by treating customers with respect and dignity. If they are fed up and are not in the mood to deal with customer problems, leave and work somewhere that makes you happy. NWA also needs to take appropriate action(s) with disgruntled employees.

Again, thank you for taking the time to read my posting this and respond.


Karl

Clovis,
New Mexico,
U.S.A.

Connecting Time too Short

#7Consumer Comment

Tue, October 30, 2007

You must not be frequent travellers. Minneapolis St Paul is a large airport with many concourses. Smart travellers allow no less than two hours between planes at places like this. The " legal" connecting time - sometimes as little as 45 minutes - is ridiculous. Next time allow sufficient time for a connection and you will probably make your flight. It was not Northwest's fault.

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