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Complaint Review: NOSS123.com NOSS Number One Success System

NOSS123.com NOSS, Number One Success System, NOSS123.com NOSS Legal ??? Not according to the U.S. Governmental Body Kapolei Hawaii

  • Reported By:
    Virginia Beach Virginia
  • Submitted:
    Mon, January 07, 2008
  • Updated:
    Fri, February 01, 2008
  • NOSS123.com NOSS, Number One Success System,
    PMB 156 Farrington HWY #210-156
    Kapolei, Hawaii
    U.S.A.
  • Phone:
    618-355-1694
  • Category:

I was certain to step on someones toes. If the truth hurts, move your feet out of the way. Zthomas is rambling. Reveal yourself, my friend. Why are you hiding?

To counteract all of Zthomas' allegations, I challenge each and every one of you to do something meaningful for 2008.

This challenge is for those of you who are actively working NOSS123 as well as those who are considering this opportunity.

Take this program to your local attorney general's office and not limited to a personal attorney who practices business law: Be certain to base your concern on how the program is being presented with its specifics.

If you are actively working the program and do not want to divulge your participation, present your concerns as if you were considering the opportunity.

DO NOT generalize the facts of this program. Present the program in its rawest form by providing the website address and password, the gifting statement and non-solicitation forms. Include the fact that you WILL NOT be paying taxes based upon the IRS gifting tax law. If the representative is willing to listen, direct them to the on-demand informational call where "k.e.n." explains it all.

After following these specific instructions, if any one of you can prove that an authorized governmental official has told you that this program is LEGAL, and if you can provide me with circumstantial evidence confirming this fact, liberally contact me
at 7 5 7 - 5 1 7 - 2 6 7 9, and I will personally send you a true gift of $3500.00. No strings attached.

One more issue that I would like to address before closing. Why would NOSS unplug a person for starting their own business or program? What security would this give its participants? How has a person violated any guidelines or protocols by starting an additional business? This spells intimidation.

Here is a clear indication of how controlling and manipulative NOSS' orchestration is -- from their highly regulated training calls to their semi-live informational calls. This is simply because it is rooted in GREED. G-aining R-uthlessly E-ach and E-very D-ay...

Any other legitimate biz op or "opportunity" would encourage multiple streams of income. The spirit of greed plagues these individuals. Remain mindful of this, if you are currently in NOSS or if you are considering this opportunity. They can rip your "back office" from underneath you at any time without explanation.

NOSS is insecure and they have earned every right to be. Believe it or not, insecurity is a marked trait that would draw one to such an opportunity to begin with.

Open your eyes. Remove the mud from your vision.

For any of you who have listened to me on the training calls, I would like you to judge carefully by your own discernment and your personal interaction with me. I have no reason to maim a person's character. I did not list names or try to attack anyone individually. You are aware of who they are, just like I am.


Isn't it interesting that I never made one reference or attempt to promote "a new program", if I had one? This is NOT my intent. Enlightenment is my sheer motivation.

Mal
Virginia Beach, Virginia
U.S.A.

3 Updates & Rebuttals


Nick1down

Boston,
Massachusetts,
U.S.A.

MAL

#4Consumer Comment

Fri, February 01, 2008

Mal,
I'm really surprised that you could have been a part of NOSS and also be totally ignorant of how it works. Just who is this 'FAT CAT' that you are talking about? You never say. You never explain how money that is gifted in NOSS ever is benefited by NOSS or your so called 'FAT CAT'.

Tell me, Mal, when you received your gift from your second invitee and all other invitees after that, did you ever have to pay all or part of it up to NOSS or any FAT CAT at the TOP? What? NO, you say.

??'The law states and I'll put it in laymen's terms -- that if there is a thoughtful consideration to join an activity/program, that has no products or renders no services, to increase your monies, and you must pay-in to become a member of this organized crime (web hosting fee, etc.) and it involves giving at least one or more other parties the exchange of money and -- most importantly -- the need to find MORE people to keep MORE money coming in, a pyramid scheme it is indeed.'??

I'm interested in why you are still walking free if you were indeed participating in 'organized crime' and they have caught on to you and NOSS?

The web hosting fee does render you a service. It's called WEB HOSTING which is perfectly legal to charge. It's time to do some home work. Please call up any web hosting company and ask them how much they charge per year. While you're at it, ask them if their enterprise is an illegal operation. You paid NOSS your web hosting fee and they made good on their promise to host your private gifting.

All of you who want to demonize NOSS give these law definitions of a pyramid scheme. However, you always leave out the part that really makes a pyramid scheme a pyramid scheme and that is its structure. A pyramid scheme is structured so that it is mathematically impossible to sustain. (i.e. 1 person gets 5 people to join up, who each in turn get 5 people etc... etc... Exponentially speaking the world will run out of people to invite very quickly.) If people stop contributing, then the whole thing collapses. Money is said to always 'FUNNEL UP' to the top tier so that when (not if) it collapses everyone looses their money except for the scam artist/s running the show. He/she or they are the 'FAT CAT' that Mal is talking about. A pyramid scheme by its very structure must fail, people in it must loose money and there in lies the fraud charges.

NOSS is not set up to fail in any way. The 1st person to accept your invitation qualifies you, therefore there is no exponentially increasing base to fail nor is there any base at all or tiers of any such kind. No self respecting pyramid scheme would have such a linear one time qualifying structure.

NOSS does not funnel money constantly away from the participants. When the private gift (that you qualify for and only need to qualify for once) is given to you, ALL of it is given to you. NOSS benefits not one penny by the gift. If you qualify for it, then that is what you will receive.

The system is not mathematically doomed to collapse, therefore the only way that you can FEEL as if you've lost your money, is if you gave up before your 2nd person accepts your invitaion. I say "FEEL", because how do you loose a gift that you gave someone?

After the 2nd person accepts your invitation, this person will send their entire gift directly to you and you will have no need to continue inviting people if you don't want. So to say that you "most importantly -- (the) need to find MORE people to keep MORE money coming in' is the most outlandish lie about NOSS yet."

"Understanding how a lawyer thinks, even if he didn't pursue or couldn't prove that I was, in fact, in a pyramid scheme, he could prosecute me on fraud, which is based on my intent. THIS is what sold me. Can we say, DUH for dummies?"

Mal, you are walking free of prosecution today, because as you have guessed (or KNOW) a lawyer cannot prove that you were engaged in a pyramid scheme. As I have explained so far you weren't. If they cannot prove it, then you didn't commit fraud under the laws that define a pyramid scheme.

I want to know HOW you defrauded anyone, Mal? Didn't you tell them up front about GIFTING? Didn't you and NOSS explain exactly how the system works?


Mal

Virginia Beach,
Pennsylvania,
U.S.A.

NOSS123 NOSS123.com Number One Success System Cash Gifting Not Legal According To the U.S Governmental Body

#4Author of original report

Tue, January 29, 2008

To each and every one of you who are considering NOSS123, also known as Number One Success System, NOSS123.com and/or NOSS, who have unknowingly, to some, went under names such as True Wealth Today, Real Results Today, RRS123, World Of Wealth Today, Uptoyouwealth, and a host of other facades to keep their scam afresh, I will be exposing this opportunity from the inside out.

I will update this page as needed; for I am certain that there is a new name change in the making.

I am here to give you some very informative facts concerning this opportunity, as well as the other copycat gifting activities mirroring this organized crime.

Before I begin, let me give those of you who want their meat and potatoes first, the information needed to make an educated decision as to whether you find NOSS operation deceitful and fraudulent. I challenge each and every one of you to do something meaningful for 2008.

This challenge is for those of you who are considering this opportunity, as well as those who are actively working this operation.

Take this program to your local attorney general's office and not limited to a personal attorney who practices business law: Be certain to base your concern on how the program is being presented with its specifics.

If you are actively working the program and do not wish to divulge your participation at this time, present your concerns as if you were considering the opportunity.

DO NOT generalize the facts of this program. Present the program in its rawest form by providing the website address and password, the gifting statement and non-solicitation forms. Include the fact that you will not be paying taxes based upon the IRS gifting tax law. If the representative is open to listen, direct them to the on-demand informational call where Ken explains it all.

After following these specific instructions, if any one of you can prove that an authorized governmental official has told you, that this program is legal, and if you can provide me with circumstantial evidence confirming this fact, liberally contact me personally at 206-6 6 6-3 1 1 3, and I will send you a true gift of $3500.00. No strings attached.

I am going to enclose some additional facts that you will find helpful. In fact, you will be most grateful that you did your due diligence and fell upon this information before carelessly packing your 100 dollar bills inside of an FEDEX envelope to the strange recipient anxiously awaiting your cash with his tongue dripping wet with greed.

I will also expose some of the psychological tactics that this organization uses to keep their participants brainwashed and bound by the spirit of greed. Hopefully this information will prove resourceful for you when considering your next business venture.

Upon listening to NOSS informational call, your first indicator that something is amiss should be the highly regulated fashion in which they operate. In addition, you will notice a lot of hype. This hype is practiced -- from the enthusiasm that is created on these conference calls to the testimonies given at the end of the call. Nothing here is authentic.

Be aware. Every thing about NOSS is pretentious. What looks like a pool of support, is really a false impression of 'Watch my back and Ill watch yours. At all cost, lets get our next buck together!'

On NOSS' training calls, exclusively for members, you are taught how to become the next best scammer. There are techniques shared, which teach you how to manipulate your character to persuade others that you are the leader they would want to follow.

You are also taught how to give a testimony. Would someone be so kind as to share with me how a testimony can be still called a testimony, if it does not flow from the core of your heart? This is called control.

The training calls are highly regulated. You have the fat cats, the trainers, and then the lay members. The fat cats give the trainers -- most of the time -- divine access to dominate the call. There are certain features on these training calls which allow the leaders to control the atmosphere of these calls at all times.

If you are a member of NOSS, unless you are listening blind, you know exactly what I am referring to. If you have ever attempted to ask a question and wondered if you were heard or if anyone was listening because it appeared that either their was a malfunction in the reception or that you were being ignored, it was the latter. Your question or statement did not fit the criteria of the environment. So, yes, you were undeniably being disregarded.

The training calls are designed to keep the members blindly committed to NOSS. NOSS reaps a huge benefit from this. The hope is that the member will continue to maintain his annual web hosting fee and also to continue purchasing the leads offered in their back office. The fat cats are profiting from the both of these promotions. Let us remember that fat cats have fat pockets.

Many people who join these organizations are insecure and have a void in their life. NOSS selects their trainers very carefully. You can rest assure that it is not because of your strength of character. Usually these trainers will be manipulatively pimped for the purpose of leading the blind into a darker ditch.

In return, these trainers are put on untouchable pedestals. Surreptitiously their egos are stroked as they are looked upon as the guru who is making it happen.

The lay members, however, can be heard privately pleading within themselves, 'If only I could touch the guru's garment right now, maybe, just maybe, I can make this work too.' Once you become aware of this senseless mind game, it is unbearable to stomach.

It is very interesting to note that this is how all the cash gifting programs operate. The winners are only those who are willing to sacrifice their integrity for greed. This is what separates the winners from losers and those who make a gifting program work and those who deem the program a failure.

If you find that you are kicking yourself because you cannot seem to get the Fedex truck to deliver cold hard cash to your door daily, consider yourself a person who has not yet exchanged your intergrity for the spirit of greed. What a blessing.

It reminds me of the mega evangelical church that hypes their members up with the get-your-next-breakthrough-blessing sermon before asking every one in the pew to drop a seed in the ground for their next miracle. The preacher is praised as hundreds of thousands of dollars are left on the table while empty hearts drag back to their broken homes -- hopeless.

This vicious cycle is repeated as the finances of these individuals are pressed dry, while the hearts of the greedy fat cats are made fatter. Unfortunately, since the preachers sermons are shallow, so are the followers hearts. They return again and again for a refill of emptiness only to remain dismayed, broken and disappointed in the end.


By profession, I am a court stenographer. I am not an editorialist who likes to enforce my views and opinions onto others. I would much rather provide facts and challenge you to do your due diligence to prove otherwise.

It is important that you base your findings upon evidence. I dare you to challenge your doubts, if you still have them at this point, by plugging into one of NOSS exclusive training calls yourself.

You may access this recording by dialing 218-936-1005, pin no. 60649#. There is a 30-second delay, so be patient. Press # (pound) to increase the volume and * (star) to decrease the volume of the recording. This recording is available 24 hours a day at your discretion

One more issue that I would like to address before closing. Why would NOSS unplug a person for starting an additional business or program? What security would this give its participants? How has a person violated any guidelines or protocols by starting an additional business? This spells intimidation.

Here is a clear indication of how controlling and manipulative NOSS' orchestration is -- from their highly regulated training calls to their semi-live informational calls. This is simply because NOSS is rooted in GREED -- G-aining R-uthlessly E-ach and E-every D-ay...

Any other legitimate biz op or opportunity would encourage multiple streams of income. These individuals are plagued by the spirit of greed. Remain mindful of this, if you are currently in NOSS or if you are considering this opportunity. They can rip your 'back office' from underneath you at any time without explanation.

NOSS is insecure and they have earned every right to be. Believe it or not, insecurity is a marked trait that would draw one to such an opportunity to begin with.

Open your eyes. Remove the mud from your vision.

For any of you who have listened to me on the training calls, I would like you to judge carefully by your own discernment and your personal interaction with me. I have no reason to maim a person's character. I did not list names or try to attack anyone individually. You are aware of who they are, just like I am.

I would also like to note that I have been receiving threatening calls from people inside of NOSS to cease and desist the exposure of their illegal campaign. I am ruefully ashamed of my former affiliation with NOSS. It is time to sound the alarm. I will continue to be used as an instrument to do so.

Rumors have it that I am trying to exploit NOSS at the expense of promoting my own home-based business. Isn't it interesting that I have never made one reference or attempt to promote 'a new program', if I had one? This is not my intent. Enlightenment and exposure is my sheer motivation.


Tim

Valparaiso,
Indiana,
U.S.A.

Not much sense to this report

#4Consumer Suggestion

Thu, January 10, 2008

Your report doesn't make a whole lot of sense. It seems as though you are trying to expose a legitimate scam operation. Could you please provide some more specifics, or something that makes sense, so that the rest of your fellow consumers can know what to avoid?

Thank you!

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