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  • Report:  #367898

Complaint Review: Okcupid

Okcupid Violation to my civil rights New York Internet

  • Reported By:
    cave creek Arizona
  • Submitted:
    Thu, August 28, 2008
  • Updated:
    Mon, September 19, 2011

I worte this to OKCUPID as a concerned citizen, but yet as my own opinion.

Subject: [Opinion] America = English (HYSTERICAT)?

If this site was generated in America for Americans, then why do you have spanish on there? I live in Arizona and im fed up on how everything has beening turning into hablo espanol. Why does it have to be spanish? I don't understand it, especially when they didn't want to have to anything with us when wars happen, but yet we immigrated other cultures we have fought wars against, and yet we still spoke English. Now that we have a problem with our borders with illegal immigration, we are making it VERY EASY for them to cross the border illegally and be able to communicate so they do jobs w/o supporting our own country. So why are we allowing this? This is the last thing i hate, i came to site because of the genuine portrayl of actually meeting someone or establishing a relationship. Why do i want to deal with someone speaking spanish if i don't speak it. That is why i live in America, not Spain or Mexico. See my point? I hope you do, because this is a problem not just from your site, but in our society/economy in OUR OWN COUNTRY! I hope you realize you are contributing to the help of illegal immigration and terrorism. Keep in mind a terrorist comes in different colors/cultures, but when they are in our country illegally, the worst thing that is done to them is being deported back to their country just so they can try it again. So thank you for NOT supporting AMERICA!

These are the response i got from okcupid.com:

-From: John Marc Imbrescia (jm@okcupid.com)
El lenguaje del amor es universal. -jm

-From: Vinay Pai (vinay@okcupid.com)
It's actually worse than that... the pixels our pages are made from are made in China, putting millions of hard working American pixels out of work. It's unfortunate, but it's really hard to stay competitive with all the increase in cost. We considered switching to black and white because they're so much cheaper than colored pixels, but that upset a lot of people. It's a tough choice... I hope you can be more understanding :(

From: Eli Gwynn (eli@okcupid.com)
I've been considering taking it on as my next project to overhaul the whole nationality/ethnicity restrictions of the site. Hopefully we can get to the point where only people of native continental ancestry have active accounts and all communication happens in Navajo, Hopi, or Algonquin. The last thing we want is outsiders undermining our proud continental heritage. I'll also be changing my username to RepliesWithSwiftSarcasm.
Eli - Soon to be known as "Coyote Compiler Whisperer"

*Imagine this was you voicing an opinion about something you strongly feel that is a problem with our country that needs to be corrected as far as how our economy/society is doing. Nothing. Well how am i suppose to react to this? Well i responded to ELI, because not only is sarcastic, but insults and patronizes me and i told him i felt about it. Well he then goes and deletes my account! I been on there for about a year and made a lot of progress to build my profile and etc. Now it is taken away because i am exercising my rights and then they violate it and say that its my fault.

Well here is the email i sent to ELI and here is the response i got from him. Keep in mind its suppose to protray as me being the bad seed about this, turning it around to make me look like the crazy person that had nothing better to do than to threaten people and lose an account information.


On Aug 28, 2008, at 2:48 PM, Paul U wrote:
PAUL-How about "d**k with teeth full of fists"? Or maybe "little p***s big incompetence"?
ELI-You're not the first person to insult us. It happens *every day* and we don't care.

PAUL-Yeah that really mature of you to respond like that, you this is a joke?ELI-You're not the first person to contact us complaining about allowing non-english speakers on the site and then proceed to butcher the english language.

PAUL-I don't care what race you are
ELI-These are hardly the words of someone who writes to his internet dating site complaining about all of the spanish-speakers.

PAUL-if i saw you in person i would litterally beat your face in until you are gargling your own blood.
ELI-You're definitely not the first person to threaten us.


*Keep in mind what you read about me stating the bits and peices of what my whole e-mail is about. First problem, taking this out of context and now criticizing me. Not to mention how much he respects his profession and the company he works for, none-the-less respect for our country! It was funny how he didn't show what i wrote proving his imcopetence of the subject and being a child about it. Here is the last e-mail he sent me, after getting that i responded to him from finding out my account was deleted.

On Aug 28, 2008, at 3:27 PM, Paul U wrote: > More broken english.>> -PAUL->
I deleted your account because I don't want you on our site. Do you recall how our exchange went?
1. You launched a complaint.
2. I responded sarcastically.
3. You threatened me with violence.
4. I deleted your account.
Take it to a judge. Go ahead and convince yourself that you'll be able to give us the kind of "bad publicity" where OkCupid doesn't benefit. Eli

Hmm, thats funny, because i thought it was an opinion, not a complaint. Theres a tab to press when to submit a feedback and there is a complaint tab, an opinion tab, and there is also a tab that says, "IM REALLY ANGRY!" Just like that. Go check it out, before you (the reader) prejudges me on being the bad person.
Oh and ELI, i don't have to try to do bad publicty, you are just doing it fine for me! Keep it up you dumbass!

Paul
cave creek, Arizona
U.S.A.

5 Updates & Rebuttals


Robert

Buffalo,
New York,
USA

Take your own advice.

#6Consumer Comment

Mon, September 19, 2011

Deomocracy is Democracy!

You should learn some history yourself.

1.  The U.S. government is NOT a democracy-it's a REPUBLIC (more specifically, a democratic republic.)  You ramble about our country, but you don't seem to know what type of a representative government we have.  Pitiful!  Don't they teach this stuff in grade school anymore?

2.  Learn about the Spanish-American War.  While you're at it, take a good look at a map of the western hemisphere and learn how little english speaking areas there were compared to other territories claimed by non-english speaking countries.

3.  I agree with you that English should be the official language of the U.S.  That said, you do come across as a bigot.


Paul

cave creek,
Arizona,
U.S.A.

Ireland is NOT AMERICA

#6Author of original report

Mon, September 12, 2011

Why do you superficial people always consider that Your country is just like ours? Deomocracy is Democracy! Thats it, thats all to it! This counrty USA was founded, check out the history. I guess our education system has failed once again, because this country wasn't founded by SPANISH SETTLERS!! So as far as you being from IRELAND, why are you commenting out of your realm? We live in two different worlds and as far as this company wanting to make a profit by doing the bare mininum is NOT fine with me! You can call me racist all you want, but for you to comment your own opinions is more of a bigotry than mine expressing. Unlike YOU, i have every RIGHT!!! So how about you take your one tracked mind and steer it into the culture you are from and WORRY about YOUR problems! This is a case of a "international company" wanting to make a buck. So if you geared this website to the English public and there is a bunch of spanish people on there, i guess that makes sense to you; just like 1+1=3, that makes sense to you apparently! Get off you EGO and look at the problem here, they are based IN THE USA, they are created in the USA, so why am i dealing with other countries? I am not sure, because you people turned a simple minded argument to ONCE AGAIN a race thing! Now with all that said i am glad it is posted, because there are people out there that are getting screwed, and being that you are not even remotely CLOSE to my continent let alone my country, where do you get off saying what you said? The point is, YOU DON'T!

OHH, and FYI (which is FOR YOUR INFORMATION) for someone to be a racist they would have to be consider talking down onto a race, a specific gender of a race or even the basic physical aspects of another race. A racist comment to a matter of opinion is fine line especially when you take it out of context. So you do not have the proper training in education of comprehnsive skills, then you need to re-read what you read and only then you might realize the hidden agenda in my case, and that is that THE COMPANY IS RIPPING PEOPLE OFF!!!

Is that racist enough for you, IRISH BOY! Or do we need to raise the threat level to orange?


Nunya Bidness

Eugene,
Oregon,
United States of America

This HAS to be a troll, right?

#6Consumer Comment

Tue, April 19, 2011

Seriously, no one is actually dumb enough to believe that an international site like OKCupid should limit  the available language to English, are they?  I have to believe that this was actually posted by OKCupid staff as a joke because "Paul" got seriously pwnt in this exchange.   If you are real, you are the biggest dumb a*s on the face of the planet, sir.


Harley

Internet,
Ireland

"Concerned Citizen"

#6General Comment

Tue, April 19, 2011

I'm amazed that your report even got published. I understand that your letter to OkCupid was your opinion, but it is a racist opinion. It may surprise you to know that not only people in Spain and Mexico speak Spanish; in fact I myself am Irish, live in Ireland and speak Spanish. Over 400 million people speak Spanish worldwide and they are not all living in America and "taking jobs without supporting your country". Frankly your view that having Spanish on the website is "contributing to illegal immigration and terrorism" is at best paranoid and at worst shockingly racist. 

However, what I find most unbelievable about your report is that having been given a soapbox from which to tell your side of the story you still manage to come across so badly. Reading this only made me want to congratulate the people at OkCupid who responded to your increasingly ignorant and threatening remarks.

I think you should delete this report, as it is now doing the rounds on twitter and trust me, the comments are not in your favour...


theMisterLister

United States of America

America = Freedom

#6Consumer Comment

Mon, April 18, 2011

This is my country and i appreciate the freedom our government affords us to say whatever we want, not limited by content, tone, or language. Thank you, OKcupid, for not applying a whole bunch of additional limitations.

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