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Complaint Review: Olde Bull Kennels A Mutt Breeder Here Buyer Beware Jessica Alexander Oldebullkennels@gmail.com

Olde Bull Kennels A Mutt Breeder Here Buyer Beware Of These Morons Also. Jessica Alexander Oldebullkennels@gmail.com People are Registry there dogs with IOEBA bull crap registry from Texas. Jackass Indiana

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    New York New York
  • Submitted:
    Fri, October 03, 2008
  • Updated:
    Thu, December 16, 2010
  • Olde Bull Kennels A Mutt Breeder Here Buyer Beware Jessica Alexander Oldebullkennels@gmail.com
    234 Mutt Rd
    Jackass, Indiana
    U.S.A.
  • Phone:
    765-635-1923
  • Category:

Buyer Need to learn the Truth about Olde English Bulldogges they are not look like Big Akc Modern-day English Bulldogs with Cut tail and also it shoudn't "SCREWED" TAILS also. These People are Cross American Bulldogs with English Bulldogs and calling Olde English Bulldogges and also , Registry with IOEBA, WBA and the Other mutt registry. These people will sell you Big Mutts. People need to learn the truth about the Original Olde English Bulldogges. They are Working Dogs not set around mutts. People need to understand the truth. These people don't have pure breed dogs.

The Truth is Here
In 1950 1971 1960, Mr Winston, Mr Leavitt and Mr Hermes started this project of breeding a dog with the looks of the 18th century Bulldog. I had become disenchanted with English Bulldogs, due to breeding and breathing problems. I discovered that they didn't look like their ancestors, who were healthier and less extreme. I found that bull and bear-baiting had been very widespread for hundreds of years. Extreme cruelty to animals was inherent in baiting sports. This cruelty was abhorrent to me, but I was fascinated by the great tenacity and courage of the over-matched underdog. I was also drawn to the Bulldog because of his fierce appearance. A modern protection dog, which looks really tough, will repulse an assailant without having to bite. This is the most desirable end to a confrontation. I couldn't find a reliable source for old style Bulldogs, and set about the daunting task of breeding back. I named the breed Olde English Bulldogge.

Research has been critical in developing a standard. I have period statues, paintings, prints, and all the important older dog books. I found that Bulldog sizes varied during different periods, due to changes in the way the baits were staged. Like all old working breeds, Bulldogs were not bred to a strict standard. Their distinctive body, head, and temperament, were dictated instead by their work.

I do not want the temperament of the original Bulldog. My dogs must be very loving. They must have courage and determination, without being overly aggressive. I've found that I can't count on buyers to get their dogs under good obedience control. If I have to make a mistake, it must be on the friendly side, and if someone wants their dog to be sharper, all it takes is bit of training. I'd rather teach a friendly dog to bite, then vice versa.

I'm using a line-breeding scheme, developed for cattle at Ohio State University. You start with 3 unrelated dogs, two males and one female. Female pups from the first cross are bred to the second male. From this point, females are bred back to uncles, each generation. I have 2 unrelated schemes started, so future outcrosses will be possible. I've used breeds that all have old Bulldog in their background. My dogs are half English Bulldog, and the other half Bullmastiff, Pit Bull, and American Bulldog. The process of getting the dogs to match the old depictions is actually rapid due to the breeds used, and a dogs' short gestation period. I try to get on to the next generation as quickly as possible, to make genetic progress and get consistent results. I'm up to the eight and ninth generations on the two lines, at the time of this printing in 1989, 1995.

My dogs can now breathe. They will never be like hounds, able to run for miles during the hottest weather of summer, but they're three times better than the restricted modern Bulldog. Cesarean section births are not necessary. Artificial insemination, due to male ineptness and lack of drive, has been replaced by natural ties. Life span is over eleven years. All breeding stock have had hip x-rays. No dog with bad hips is bred. I'm now achieving my goal of producing a Bulldog with the health and temperament to be able to serve people, instead of forcing people to serve him.

JOSE W.
New York, New York
U.S.A.

2 Updates & Rebuttals


Michael

Woodmere,
New York,
USA

Reply to Jose Kwame W.

#3REBUTTAL Owner of company

Thu, December 16, 2010

Mr. Jose Kwame W.


After reading your commentary I would strongly suggest you stay off the drugs or booze as its made you null and void. Its quite obvious you have the brain of a mature cucumber. No I have'nt met Ms Alexander nor did I purchase a Puppy from her,although I do have the best little girl O.E.B. that she shipped to a breeder in upstate New York and I was so lucky to end up with the best little girl in the world,she just had her second Birthday. I couldn't be luckier. I had a problem with a rasch under her chin and after spending a small fortune with my vet who by the way I spent six months with at ground zero working with search and rescue dogs with and he is a great vet,he just couldn't nail it ,I just gave it a shot and called not the breeder I purchased it from but rather Ms Alexander whom I never met,she reccomended a cure and just as she said a few days later and a over the counter application ,my Laci girl was perfect,how dare you insult ,accuse ,someone who is such a knowledgable ,giving ,wonderful person as she. Whats your major malfunction,get a life,its people like you who run there mouths without any substance that twist unsuspecting people 's minds,shame on you. You read a book put a few words together and think you sound like you know what your talking about,you are a dangerous person,if I had the opportunity I would put you where you belong ,behind bars,slander and defamation are a start.It's evident your most unhappy with yourself get help.


Olde Bull Kennels

Elwood,
Indiana,
U.S.A.

Jose you are an Idiot

#3REBUTTAL Owner of company

Thu, October 16, 2008

First off I may be mistaken but I am pretty sure before you have the right to file a rip off report on someone you would have had to do some kind of business with them right??

The only encounter I have ever had with this man are harassing emails because my dogs dont have tails, and yes they are born with tails we dock them which is a routine procedure done with the breed, it is all the breeders preference, I prefer docked tails.

My dogs are not English Bulldog, American Bulldog mixes, all of my dogs are generational and I have pedigrees to prove that.

Jose/Kwame/Winston what the h*ll ever your name is find something better to do than harass people over tails, as a matter of fact send me your address and next time I dock tails I will send them to you.lol

If you search this site you will find out all kinds of reports made on Jose or ( Master of all bulls) or whatever his name is as well as about 20 other breeders he has made the same exact report on although he has never done business with any of us.

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