Complaint Review: ONLINESTOREBIZ.com dropshiponauction.com dropshipdesign.com

Liston, I bought the webstore package, And have no regrets. Most people who buy these packages number one, never do any investigation about owning or operating an online store. They get a website and think magicaly people will come to there web site buy something and they will be rich for doing nothing and when it does'nt happen they screem I was ripped off! When you get a store from dropship did any of you actualy read any of their sugestions about what to do? Probably no you went on ebay and picked some of your highest paying products and tried to sell them without first reserching the product and seeing what it sells for on ebay, and some products will sell for more depending on how (what catagory)it's listed in. Even ebay ask you to do this. And yes some times their is a product that sells less than yours, this is becouse there are more than just one wholesaller out there, It does not mean you are being ripped off. and to the person who complained that they were not able to see the price of any of the products untill you bought the product, well that's not true go here to my resale page and look in the right hand coolum at the bottom, click on sample products, it takes you to a second page now again click on sample products and then you can see actual products that you will be selling.

and when you log in to your store how many of you actualy read the news page, it tells you if some line has been added or deleated, or you can go to your admin page and look under your inventorie and find what has been discontenuied. The fact that its no longer carrtied as one has said proff of scam, it is the opposit, it means they have SOLD OUT! And to the person who said they never expect you to sell anything, Whats wrong with you? If you buy and then deside you don't want it look you can cancel, ask paypal how many unresolved complaints they have on this. They want you to sell but they cant magicaly do it for you. It's a job and you have to treat it like one. And for comunication they have not once failed to respond within the 24 - 48 hours, and usaly within 24, but the first thing they ask you to do when you sign up is to add them to your list or whats called white list them. And yes they have answered my complaints and all my guestions.


And to the person who tried to connect them with Gambeling sites, Miss when you submit your site for link exchanges you can set permissions, the fact is that adult, gambeling and pharmacy sites are the majority of sites that are looking for links becouse of the feirce compition, and when they see new listed sites askig for exchanges you will get al;ot of them requesting links.Next time your on a link exchange site look and see how many adult sites including gambling sites there are. I have had no problems with this company they have not promissed anythig that they haven't kept, They give an oppertunity and just becouse a few people had no idea what they were doing, and never should have tried making money online without reserching HOW to do it didn't make any money, or what ever does not mean it's a rip off.


I working like heck to get my link popularity up and page rank, but it takes hours sitting here behind this screen,and i've made a little money, I'm not rich, Not yet but it's slowly picking up. But if I just sat here day after day only logging in to see if I made a sell I guess it would have been very depressing, Some of you who wrote these things have no idea what youryour realy talking about espesialy the one who said they are only interested in the enitial payment and dont expect you to make a sale, over 90% of people online do not make money, and many of these, the majority are not these ready made websites so befor you start your libal slander you suld look for the truth.


CLICK here to see why Rip-off Report, as a matter of policy, deleted either a

LOOK I WAS JUST AS SUSPECT ABOUT THE COMPANY AS ANYONE.SO I ORDERED A FEW THINGS FROM THE COMPANY THAT WAS RELATIVLY CHEAP.I ORDERED THE FOLLOWING:

GEORGE W BUSH DVD(BUSHISMS)
PITTSBURGH STEELER BLANKET
CLOSET LIGHT

I GOT ALL OF THESE ITEMS ONLINE THRU DROPSHIPDESIGN.COM
I EVENTUALLY BOUGHT THE WEBSITE PACKAGE AND TO BE HONEST,IT'S BEEN GREAT.I WILL ADMIT EMAILING TAKES TO LONG TO REPLY TO,BUT EVERYTHING WAS ON TIME.THEY GAVE ME THE TRACKING NUMBERS WHICH TOOK ME TO UPS.COM AND I WAS IMPRESSED BY THE PACKAGING.IM NOT SAYING THESE FOLKS ARE ANGELS BUT YOU HAVE TO THINK THAT GIVING YOU A SITE WHERE YOU DO NOTHING BUT MAINTAIN IT HAS TO BE EXPENSIVE ON THE COMPANIES PART.

WHEN I HAD FIRST GOT THE SITE,YEA I HAD PROBS WITH MY SITE BEING UNAVAILABLE.BUT THAT HAPPENS ON A BUSY SERVER.THEY EMAMLED ME WITHIN 24HRS TO ASURE ME THAT THE WERE REAL.LOOK ALL THESE DROPSHIP COMPS ARE MIDDLE MEN.I LOOK AT WHAT THEY HAVE TO OFFER.DSD HAD MORE TO OFFER.

HERE IS AN IDEA.DONT RUN AN AUCTION LONGER THAN 5 DAYS.RUN IN 3 DAYS.PLEASE READ THE FINE PRINT.IT TOOK ME WEEKS BEFORE I BOUGHT A WEB PACKAGE BECAUSE I STUDIED AND STUDIED HARD.MOST OF COMPLAINTS I READ DIDNT GIVE A DECENT TIME TO SETTLE THE DISPUTE.

IVE BEEN A STORE OWNER FOR ONE YEAR.NO PROBLEMS.

WHO CARES IF THEY ARE REAL OR NOT. HERE'S WHY.

I sent them an email because I am interested in their services. They have not replied yet, and it has been 24 hours. They do not have a phone number listed.

Regardless of whether they actually fulfill their orders or not, they suck. If they are not real, don't business with them. if they are real, they have horrendous business practices. Why bother either way?

I am looking for a supplier for an online business. If I can not look at pricing prior to "signing up", why would any business person in their right mind do it?

A supplier is an extention of your company. They should be eager to sell to you and help you service your customers.

You should be their most important contact - you are the gateway for them to sell their products. If they can't call you to sell you when they should be thinking about your relationship at a high level ($$$$ and many products sold), how can you expect them to contact you when you are having an issue with only ONE item that has not been attended to properly.

Two things to check for with suppliers:

1) How well do they communicate with you in trying to sell you and do they have a separate number set up for customer service.

2) Will they allow you to view pricing and products prior to you "signing up".

If they can do neither, stay away. If they can only do one, probably still want to stay away.

I signed up for dropshipdesign last year. I too found if very difficult to get a response from them when I called or sent an email. I received nasty emails when I questioned the fact that all sellers websites looked a like and I would like to be able to add my flavor to the site.

As stated above by others, I became apprehensive when I never was able to speak with anyone and my phone messages were going unannounced. Thus, I chose NOT to use ANY OF THERE SERVICES. I have NEVER placed an order with them. However, from time to time, I review their products as well as netdropshippers. Most sites seem to have the same designs and sell the exact same items. I felt that these were the middle man.

Well, my year is approaching and I am very interested in having my OWN domain name for it has my last name attached to it. I sent an email that was eventually answered about 7 days later asking why do they sign up domain names under their company instead of under my company (I do have a legitimate company with a resale license) information as I had provided upon sign up.

Here is the response, it appears that you may be able to get your domain name:

QUOTE: "We are sorry for the delay, but sometimes emails don't reach their destination or are deleted by mistake.

Right now, we have several templated to choose from in the control panel and we are adding new ones regularly. You can also use the "Content" page under the "Customize" tab of your control panel to add banner or other things to personnalize your store. We are planning on adding a functionality that will give you more control over the look of your website, but we don't have an ETA yet on this.

The domain name is registered under our corporate account, that's how we can offer it for free with your subscription. If you want it under your name, we suggest that you initiate a domain name transfer from your favorite registrar. Be aware, though, that this could result in some down time for your store since you will have to make some changes to the domain name nameservers after the transfer is completed. Also, if you decide to go through with a domain name transfer, please let us know right after you initiate it, so we can unlock your domain name and accept the transfer.

Please make sure to keep this entire thread in your reply since we answer hundreds of emails every day and there is no way we can remember everybody and all their issues.


Regards,

Sales Team "


I still choose not to use this group, doba (which I was a member for a month) or netdropshipper. However, I do hope this response helps someone else.

I am a DropShipDesign.com web site owner and customer with the eBay wizard program at http://generaloutlet.timeyoushop.com since October of 2005. I admit that it is very difficult to deal with DSD sometimes and I did go through a shady beginning deal, where I lost one web site which is now registered to Wild West through DropShipDesign.com according to GoDaddy.com and DirectNic. When I put it on LinkMarket.net, the gambling sites swamped me with requests for link exchanges, so I feel that DropShipDesign.com has a problem with these gamblers, whether it is voluntary or not. I don't like to accuse 'people' when we try to deter crimes such as we have seen in today's world wide web, rather the concepts, such as our War on Terrorism which started back in 2001, where anyone could be guilty, but we are trying to stop the terrorism, not participate in it. After losing my first site with DSD, finding that eBay and PayPal had intererence, again, whether it was from within or without is not my issue, only that the payment was confused to the point that on the second try I did not use PayPal and got my site successfully. I have normal business problems with DropShipping orders, but I have had a good deal of success on eBay and have a perfect feedback score to show for it.

In conclusion, I'd like to add that in my email experiences with the staff at DropShipDesign.com, I have found the cross-section of personalities that is usual in large groups. It seems that when I complain about a grouchy man, the mail goes to a little old lady who tells me BTW: threatening people is not going to accomplish anything.

Please read my ripoff report for the full story (Teresa - Easley, SC).

I have a box sitting here on my desk. It contains an MP3 player that I sold to a customer through ebay from dropshipdesign.com. It arrived broken and not the right color. She shipped it back for a replacement. Instead, they gave me a refund so I re-ordered a new one for her but had it shipped to my home to inspect first.

I finally got it the other day. Inside, I found the 'broken' mp3 player (still broken) along with the letter from my customer AND a letter from another customer that had ALSO received the same broken mp3 player after my customer had sent it back. The 'other' customer sent it back with HER letter attached to my customers' letter. They shipped it to me without ever opening the box. It is in a box that says 'Refurbished'. They NEVER fixed this thing and they keep reselling it over and over again to unsuspecting customers.

I have talked with the other customer AND with my customer. I have also contacted the company that the other customer bought it from (on ebay). I am awaiting their reply.

I am gathering up as much information as I can about this so called Dropshipdesign.com company. I am taking all of the proof and emails and this mp3 player to the Feds. I am pressing charges and I WILL get to the bottom of this.

The 'other' customer has YET to receive a refund on this mp3 player. When she shipped it back, she did so with a return receipt request. She hasnt received that back yet. She is going to the post office tomorrow (Monday, Jan 9th, 2005). She is also filing charges. Hopefully with everyone's help, we will be able to bring these people down AND get our money back!

I can be reached at Teresa AT Directsolutions dot us.

If you can help or have any information that could help, please contact me!

It was one of those really long nights and I didn't even think about researching such a cheaply made site. The things they said made it sound so good to me since I was getting tired and impatient about searching for some products to sell.

I was checking out this post and some of this information is really helping me out. When I bought their package I applied for a new domain name. Shouldn't I be the owner of the domain!?!?!?

Not only do we supply these scammers money but we are buying them the ownership of some really good domain names that they will make even more profit off of in the future. I'm not saying mine is spectacular or anything, but you get the point.

This is the info I got when I was finding out who this domain was registered to, even though I payed for it:

Registrant:
Sales Team
Weship2u.com
Mill Creek, Washington 98012
United States

Registered through: Weship2U.com
Domain Name: EASYDROPSHIPPING.COM
Created on: 26-Sep-05
Expires on: 26-Sep-06
Last Updated on: 26-Sep-05

Administrative Contact:
Team, Sales sales@weship2u.com
Weship2u.com
Mill Creek, Washington 98012
United States
8009210136
Technical Contact:
Team, Sales sales@weship2u.com
Weship2u.com
Mill Creek, Washington 98012
United States
8009210136

Domain servers in listed order:
PARK21.SECURESERVER.NET
PARK22.SECURESERVER.NET


Registry Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK

I too was screwed over by this company. It was one of those really long nights and I didn't even think about researching such a cheaply made site. The things they said made it sound so good to me since I was getting tired and impatient about searching for some products to sell.

I was checking out this post and some of this information is really helping me out. When I bought their package I applied for a new domain name. Shouldn't I be the owner of the domain!?!?!?

Not only do we supply these scammers money but we are buying them the ownership of some really good domain names that they will make even more profit off of in the future. I'm not saying mine is spectacular or anything, but you get the point.

This is the info I got when I was finding out who this domain was registered to, even though I payed for it:

Registrant:
Sales Team
Weship2u.com
Mill Creek, Washington 98012
United States

Registered through: Weship2U.com
Domain Name: EASYDROPSHIPPING.COM
Created on: 26-Sep-05
Expires on: 26-Sep-06
Last Updated on: 26-Sep-05

Administrative Contact:
Team, Sales sales@weship2u.com
Weship2u.com
Mill Creek, Washington 98012
United States
8009210136
Technical Contact:
Team, Sales sales@weship2u.com
Weship2u.com
Mill Creek, Washington 98012
United States
8009210136

Domain servers in listed order:
PARK21.SECURESERVER.NET
PARK22.SECURESERVER.NET

Registry Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK

This look like his real name and information - take note that he has another address - this may be his home address APT 312 - same road but different number

Registrant:
Bergeron, Martin
16212 Bothell Everett Hwy.
Suite #F279
Mill Creek, WA 98012
US

Domain Name: MBERGERON.COM

Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
Bergeron, Martin verisign@mbergeron.com
Martin Bergeron
20225 Bothell Everett Hwy
#312
Bothell, WA 98012
US
425-488-6738 fax: 123 123 1234

The Suite F289 is actually PMB279 and PMB stands for PonyExpress Mailbox & Business

I looked up address in Google that was in the same shopping center and I called and talked to a nice lady who CONFIRMED to me that it is a mailbox drop and there is NO Warehouse -

SO YOU ALL ARE BEING SCREWED

16212 Bothell Everett Hwy.
Suite #F279
Mill Creek, WA
98012-1219

Take Care and BEWARE of others who use deception...

I hate deception - here is my pet peave -

I get a spam email - in the subject the spammer put in RE: or some type of trickery so I would open his email -

Well here is how I see it -

If someone LIES to me, prior to ever even introducing themselves to me, WHY in the HECK would I want to do business with them!

I hope this sums it up!

Has anyone here confirmed a mailing address on this company - a real address -

Please let us know here

Before I do business with anyone I always check them out - One way is by check their whois info and see if thay have anything to hide - This company sure does - I have seen some bad info but this company is the worst of the worst -


---- One of their sites ------
Domain name: dropshipdesign.com



Registrant:

peter caradonna (UFDY3) martin@mbergeron.com

onlinestorebiz.com LLC

NA

NA, NA 00000

United States

Phone: +1 (425)3376893



Administrative Contact:

peter caradonna (9ENZZ) martin@mbergeron.com

onlinestorebiz.com LLC

NA

NA, NA 00000

United States

Phone: +1 (425)3376893



Technical Contact:

Martin Bergeron (3ZME6) martin@mbergeron.com

onlinestorebiz.com LLC

NA

NA, NA 00000

United States

Phone: +1 (305)8160222



Billing Contact:

peter caradonna (UFDY3) martin@mbergeron.com

onlinestorebiz.com LLC

NA

NA, NA 00000

United States

Phone: +1 (425)3376893



Record last updated on 2005-03-11 00:00:00

Record created on 2004-02-27 00:00:00

Record expires on 2006-02-27 00:00:00



Domain servers in listed order:

ns1.abac.com 216.55.128.4

ns2.abac.com



Registration Service Provider: AplusNet(APRO)

apro-n4e-racc@abac.com



http://www.aplus.net



Registrar: NAMES4EVER, http://www.names4ever.com

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Here is anothe name they use to go by and now using other to hide themselves again

----------- Another name ----------------
Registrant:
xxxxxxxxxxx
xxxxxxxxxxxx
xxxxxxxxxxx, CA 89235
US
121232132


Domain Name: ONLINESTOREBIZ.COM

Administrative Contact:
xxxxxxxxx, xxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxx@xx.com
xxxxxxxxxxxx
xxxxxxxxxxx, CA 89235
US
121232132


Technical Contact:
xxxxxxxxx, xxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxx@xx.com
xxxxxxxxxxxx
xxxxxxxxxxx, CA 89235
US
121232132


Record last updated 07-01-2003 01:25:26 AM
Record expires on 01-29-2006
Record created on 01-29-2003

Domain servers in listed order:
NS.WEBHOSTINGNT.COM 63.107.178.11
NS1.WEBHOSTINGNT.COM 63.107.178.12

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This tells me these guys are RIPOFFS - SO WATCH OUT PEOPLE

I know nothing about ONLINESTOREBIZ.com, dropshiponauction.com, Dropshipdesign.com in fact I was doing a little research on them as I was thinking of using their service to expand my business.

Some would have you believe drop shippers are rip off artists. I am sure there are some that are, but in my experience the ones I use are far from that. They are B&M (Brick and mortar) businesses trying to expand their markets. I run a very successful website that is 100% drop ship. My orders come in, payment authorization is made via CC and I place my order. Once notification of shipment is made I charge the buyers card.

Ebay has no rules against drop shipping, but they do have rules about non-shipping of product, these rules apply to all sellers. I also sell on eBay (very little, but it is good advertising) and every sale has been a drop ship.

Using drop ship as a business model can be very profitable, but you have to do your due-diligence. Always make sure the drop shipper has plenty of inventory on an item if you are going to use eBay as a sells vehicle. Try to limit your auctions to five days on low priced or commodity items this way there is a good chance the item will be in stock once your item sells. Some drop shippers specialize in eBay and will hold an item while your auction is ongoing.

When looking for a drop shipper, sign up and place a small order to see how the process works before doing anything else.

Some Drop shippers charge a small fee to join their drop shipping program. In some cases $50.00 or less, this is to weed out the tire kickers, it does cost money to set up your account.

Be mindful of any drop ship packaging fees when pricing your auction.

In any business and especially in the drop ship world, ask questions of the company before doing business with them. If your only contact is by e-mail, I would not deal with them. If you have an issue with your order, call the drop shipper, not email them.

If you think you get a lot of spam think how much e-mail they get with yours stuck in there somewhere. I get about 100 spam messages a day.

Oh one other thing, if you get notification of shipment with a tracking number from the drop shipper, it has shipped. How long do you think it would be before the feds stepped in if they were shipping empty boxes? Come on Paul, stop being so cynical, not all drop shippers are rip-offs

ALl the best,

Let me begin by saying that I am an OWNER of a Drop-ship-design outlet website and by what I have read from the first post about the company that I signed on with sounded as if the person may have been at this ebay selling for maybe 2 weeks if not less.

The way it works is fundamental, you pick an Item, DO SOME PRICE POINT RESEARCH, make an auction ad, Place the Ad on ebay or Overstock auctions OR where ever you want. When the Item sells, the bidder pays me through pay pal. When I have a confirmation from my pay pal account that the bidder has paid for the item I then place the order. It is stated to all the user of my website and on my auctions that this process can be TIME Consuming due to some factors such as;

Bidders pay-pal account may have to draw out of a checking account rather the bidder having money all ready set into the pay-pal account, this could cost two to three days before I get a confirmation of payment, resulting in a delay of the shipment.

The moment I receive confirmation of the payment the order is placed with dropshipdesign, and again another time consuming operation begins, the order is sent to the warehouse and is packaged, this may take two days depending on the time that the order was sent by me at the most three days. At the latest on the third day I receive from UPS ground a tracking number for an Item that they haven't even pick up yet, but are on the way to get it. Doing the math at the most with a delayed payment the packaging could take up to seven days, again a lot of this could be avoid if the bidders would store their auction monies in their pay-pal account.

Along with just being a member or owner of a dropshipdesign website there are some plus sides to it, there are news letters explaining the in's and out's basically the how to do its info letters and in them comes ideas on other things to do also. I would say maybe six months went by before I changed my e-mail address to a new account with yahoo, when I found these newsletters. Is it DSD fault my Spam guard was dumping them in my old e-mail account, no it was mine.

As far as the polices of this web site, I see some violations in this link many with assumptions, one post calls it a scam with no background information what so ever, kind of reminds me of a courthouse hanging in an old movie.

I have sent a link to the CEO of dropshipdesign to bring this to his attention, yes I have his e-mail address and I also have e-mail address to my sales team who have no problems with helping me with problems I have, will they hold my hand and tell me to decide what I should do with my website NO, but they will advisee me about decision that I do make, I find Tim Knox's advice very helpful.

Many who have signed on with DSD have problems, believe me I know because when someone buys a package I send them email letting them know I have been where they are at and I explain how to get started and to never have the to do ebay or die idea, or to have the idea that they have arrived on easy street and it is time to sit back and rake in the cash. Anything and everything takes work, be it making ads for ebay or researching price points, you will have to apply something to make it with ANY WEBSITE on the Internet, but many fail to understand this, but as you may see your still reading this, have I made my point yet?

I do very little on ebay, because I like seeing the buyers face to face, I well stock orders for flea markets, and I will sell at a higher price point than what I would on ebay any day, but again that is my choice, for e-bay is ONE way to sell the 7,000 plus Items that I sell.

Regards,

You seem to think these frauds are running a real company. That you will really make any kind of money from this drop ship nonsense.

Nothing could be further from the truth. It was a scam from the very beginning. At $80 or $100 from each sucker, times 100 people a week, one or two people can make 8 to 10 grand. That's not bad. Especially when there is no actual product or sales to worry about.

Why do you think the prices are higher than similar items that are already on ebay? That should tell you something, right?

You see, they don't want you to actually sell anything. Once you send in your money, they are done with you. Most people figure out they've been conned before they actually start any auctions.

But, if you want to run the whole course, give it a shot. Get an ebay account. Place your auction for items that you don't already own. BTW, ebay forbids that. Here's why.

Let's suppose the auction runs to its conclusion. The buyer sends you payment in full. You promptly send payment to the frauds. They have a good laugh at your expense. Naturally, nothing is ever sent out.

Why the hell would they send anything? It's you who owe the buyer, not them.

The frauds will send an email telling you that the item was shipped. You pass that along to the buyer.

A week later, the buyer messages back claiming to have received nothing. At this point, the frauds will ignore you.

Here's where you stand then. You don't have an item to send. You don't have the money that the buyer sent you. And, both ebay and paypal are looking at you as a fraud. Even if you explain the whole deal, you'll look like a complete idiot.

Ebay will kick you the hell out. First, they'll deduct the payment from your bank, to refund the buyer.

It ends up as fraud squared. Or even cubed. The frauds are laughing. You are crying. Ebay is pissed. The buyer is pissed. The cops may even come knocking at your door. You have lost several hundred dollars.

What part of this sounds like a good deal?

In the future, do yourself a favor. Before you buy into any of this nonsense, come here and file a report. Request that you want someone to explain how the fraud works. That way, you'll find out the details before you lose any money.

Hi Linda! About a month ago I signed up for the same dropship ebay package you did, except it cost me $99 instead of $79....they raised it, I guess?
I got really worried when I saw your report, as I have just had two auctions end with winning bidders for items I ordered from dropshiponauction.com.
I immediately went back to the emails I have that confirmed my two orders...entered the order numbers into the "track order" or whatever it's called section of the site.
The details of each order came up when I submitted the order numbers, along with their respective tracking numbers.
When I clicked on each tracking number, it took me to the UPS website, and both my tracking numbers reported the items to be in transit and due to arrive this Friday.

I will watch out for confirmation from my buyers that they received their items...I'll update you, er, or if you want to guarantee that I'll remember, leave your contact info or email me at dnomin8r65 NO SPAM AT comcast DOT net.
Good luck, and wish me luck as well'.'