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Pay Pal And E-bay Pay Pal placed a hold on my money 180 days for no reason other then to steal my money. San Jose California
Pay pal placed a hold on 1209.33 of my money from items I sold on E-Bay.
They send me a e-mail and explain that I must provide proof of sale from the items I sold like I am a criminal.
This is a privacy issue as far as I am concerned.
I have a right to protect how I earn my money and not give away my trade secrets.
Pay Pal is only a accounting buisness not a Bank,Lawfirm,or Police Department.
They are not licenced to even make money off intrest from sales.
They need to be federal regulated.
The Attorney General needs to look into these matters
1- What the percentage is of how many accounts are placed on hold 180 days.
2- What happens to the funds when this is done.
A- Do they move these funds on the market to make a profit?
B- Do they move these funds in a escrow account?
If the funds are moved are they obligated to pay intrest for the funds that are locked out from their customers?
I recived a final letter from them that said they will no longer do buisness with me does that not terminate my account and on demand they must return my money from items I sold..
I have letters from all my buyers and every item I sold they were all very satisfied with the items I sold them.
any chargebacks that could be filed is pass the date sold that could be filed even if that was not the case.
would not matter because pay pal does not pay for the chargebacks because they are not a bank.
So let us define what is pal pal.
a third party that takes money and makes money off that money.
sort of like a bookie?
The Mafia?
defined perfectly.
Delbertbutta
Roanoke, Virginia
U.S.A.
6 Updates & Rebuttals
Delbertbutta
Roanoke,Virginia,
U.S.A.
File a complaint with Internet Crime Complaint Center if Pay Pal puts 180 day hold on your account
#7Author of original report
Sat, January 24, 2009
IC3 Complaint: I0901240233564342?
From: no-reply@ic3.gov
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Sent: Sat 1/24/09 2:33 AM
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Thank you for filing a complaint with the Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3). Your complaint has been successfully submitted.
Please retain the following information for future contacts with the IC3: Complaint Id: XXXXXXXXX Password: XXXXXXXXX If you wish to view/download your complaint or have any additional information to provide to the IC3, please use the following link and login with the above complaint id and password.http://complaint.ic3.gov/update The IC3's mission is to serve as a vehicle to receive, develop, and refer criminal complaints regarding the rapidly expanding arena of cyber crime. The IC3 aims to give the victims of cyber crime a convenient and easy-to-use reporting mechanism. Complaint StatusThe IC3 receives thousands of complaints each month and does not have the resources to respond to inquiries regarding the status of complaints. It is the IC3's intention to review all complaints and refer them to law enforcement and regulatory agencies having jurisdiction. Ultimately, investigation and prosecution are at the discretion of the receiving agencies. EvidenceIt is important that you maintain any evidence you may have relating to your complaint. Evidence may include canceled checks, credit card receipts, phone bills, mailing envelopes, mail receipts, a printed copy of a website, copies of emails, or similar items. Please keep the items in a safe location, in case you are requested to provide them for investigative purposes. Additionally, to learn more about Internet schemes and ways to protect yourself, please visit www.lookstoogoodtobetrue.com.
Delbertbutta
Roanoke,Virginia,
U.S.A.
Copy of all my buyers and and you can see they all liked my items.
#7Author of original report
Fri, January 23, 2009
(No Subject)?
From: Del Sent: Fri 1/23/09 6:08 PM
To: thee_alleycat@msn.com
Feedback From / Price Date / Time
Good prompt seller, very organized. Buyer:
stephens9944 ( 24) Jan-12-09 08:17
Boss Dr 660 Drum Machine (#270322355643) US $125.00 View Item
Perfect transaction! Packed very very well. Would buy from again Thanks! Buyer:
full-tilt-boogie ( 675) Jan-05-09 11:15
DBX dual 31 band EQ (#270322595772) US $130.00 View Item
Great ebayer lightning speed shipping Pro packaging A+++++++++ Buyer:
tonyfav1 ( 457) Dec-31-08 11:57
Tascam 24 track recording (#270321754564) US $400.00 View Item
Excellent communication, fast shipping, the absolute best seller I've found.!!! Buyer:
ckaudio1 ( 100) Dec-30-08 14:54
YAMAHA P7000S DUAL CHANNEL AMP (#270319961950) US $500.00 View Item
great service and did great job to send product quickly Buyer:
fyoufoo ( 2 ) Dec-24-08 20:42
Follow-up by fyoufoo (Jan-01-09 17:20):
really went out of his way to answer my questions; would definitely buy again
YAMAHA P7000S DUAL CHANNEL AMP (#270318955587) US $393.00 View Item
Good honest seller! Buyer:
gs77 ( 1963) Dec-24-08 06:34
Tascam 24 track recording (#270321667889) US $400.00 View Item
Great Ebayer! Thanks Seller:
briangarrett175 ( 1580) Dec-22-08 18:52
-- (#290283288019) -- View Item
Quick response and fast payment. Perfect! THANKS!! Seller:
windsonginstruments ( 1470) Dec-22-08 18:17
-- (#320326906108) -- View Item
Great Ebay buyer. Good communication. Fast Payment. A+++ Excellent. Seller:
echo6gmx ( 69) Dec-22-08 12:33
-- (#250340583822) -- View Item
Fantastic deal,great communication and followup, highly recommended!!!! Thanks Buyer:
mdmadawi ( 378) Dec-20-08 13:12
Cavs JB199 karaoke player recorder (#270318857079) US $1,450.00 View Item
One of my best customers! Thanks again Del! Seller:
jasonbills2000 ( 29) Dec-20-08 07:30
-- (#400016569365) -- View Item
Del is a great customer, I look forward to his next order with me. Seller:
jasonbills2000 ( 29) Dec-20-08 07:30
-- (#400013265512) -- View Item
Great customer, I look forward to dealing with you again!! Seller:
jasonbills2000 ( 29) Dec-19-08 08:14
-- (#400013264451) -- View Item
100% Recommended Ebay Buyer. Great Transaction. Thank You!! Seller:
ps-pawn ( 5250) Dec-17-08 14:40
-- (#140288261590) -- View Item
FLAWLESS transaction - Del is very professional and actually cares A++++++ Buyer:
killersnoot ( 142) Dec-07-08 21:20
KARAOKE JB-199 Premier made by cavs (#270304913252) US $1,500.00 View Item
great ebayer!! Buyer:
bobbyraycook50 ( 8 ) Nov-21-08 18:00
KARAOKE JB-199 Premier made by cavs (#270300939475) US $1,500.01 View Item
Fast, smooth transaction. Would gladly deal with seller again in furure! Buyer:
tinafromva ( 11) Oct-30-08 11:32
2008 Sportster 6 by 12 Box Trailer to hall things (#270293953261) US $1,600.00 View Item
Detailed item information is not available for the following items because the Feedback is over 90 days old.
Excellent E-bayer light fast payment and friendly communication. Thank YOU! A+++ Seller:
earcandycabs ( 1060) Nov-06-06 04:45
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Delbertbutta
Roanoke,Virginia,
U.S.A.
Court Action Against Pay Pal
#7Author of original report
Fri, January 23, 2009
How Does PayPal Make Money With My Money?
According to the San Francisco Chronicle, there are approx. 100,000 complaints outstanding at PayPal (Are any of these yours?). In many instances disputes can run on for months leaving people frustrated and out of pocket as they are unable to access their accounts. So what happens to the millions of dollars tied up in frozen accounts and disputes? Well, here is a clip from the San Francisco Chronicle that basically sums it up:
U.S. District Judge Jeremy Fogel of San Jose refused to dismiss a lawsuit that seeks class-action status on behalf of thousands of PayPal customers nationwide. A common allegation is that the company brushes off or stalls customer grievances for months and meanwhile freezes the customer's account and pockets the interest (So that's how they make their money!). No wonder they freeze so many accounts!
The Lawsuit You Need To Know About
As you will come to discover while browsing through the many horror stories posted on this site by current and former PayPal users, PayPal has some tough allegations to deal with. Allegations of mishandling money, unnecessarily locking funds, not providing adequate customer support, freezing accounts with no explanation and disregarding customer complaints, just to name a few.
In early 2002, Plaintiffs Roberta Toher and Jeffrey Resnick filed separate lawsuits against PayPal, Inc. These two cases were later consolidated into one lawsuit in the United States District Court for the Northern District of California.
The lawsuit alleges, among several other issues, that PayPal has placed inappropriate restrictions or other limits on customers' accounts and engaged in several other improper practices. Based on these improper practices, the lawsuit sought damages for money unjustly held, negligence, and violations of consumer protection statutes.
Rather than dealing with a lengthy public trial and being forced to clean up their act, PayPal decided to settle out of court and pay $9.25 Million Dollars to Tens of Thousands of PayPal merchants who processed with PayPal between October 1, 1999 and January 31, 2004. (A mere slap on the hand for a company this size)
Instead of a Judge forcing PayPal to change their questionable business practices, PayPal agreed to pay the settlement and walk away from the entire allegation.
So what does this mean to current PayPal merchants? Unfortunately, this means that PayPal is free to continue operating in the exact same way it always has. Judging by the number of PayPal horror stories we receive every single day, it appears that the situation has only gotten worse since the settlement.
Delbert Butta
Joe
Austin,Texas,
U.S.A.
PAYPAL STOLE $200 FROM ME WITH NO ACCOUNTABILITY
#7Consumer Comment
Fri, January 23, 2009
SHOULDN'T THESE PEOPLE COME UNDER SOME SORT OF FEDERAL REGULATION?
AT IT STANDS NOW, THEY HAVE NO ACCOUNTABILITY TO ANYONE!
WHEN THEY FIRST STARTED UP, I PUT IN $200 AND IT WAS STOLEN BEFORE I EVEN HAD A CHANCE TO SPEND IT MYSELF.
NO ONE EVER RESPONDED TO MY INQUIRES WHICH BECAME MY COMPLAINTS.
THE FEDS SAID THEY LACKED JURISDICTION AND I AM SURE THAT NOBODY WANTS THE FEDS TO REGULATE THE INTERNET.
SO BY NOW PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT PAYPAL.
PAYPAL IS A RIPOFF WITH NO ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THE MONEY YOU PUT IN THERE.
THEY DON'T CARE IF YOUR MONEY IS STOLEN OR NOT AND WHO KNOWS BUT MAYBE ONE OF THEIR EMPLOYEES STOLE IT!
eBAY IS A HUGE RIP OFF OR A CRAP SHOOT AT BEST --YOU MAY NOT GET WHAT YOU ORDER AND WHAT YOU PAY FOR. OR YOU MAY. I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO TAKE THAT CHANCE.
I SAY THE HELL WITH BOTH OF THEM!
Delbertbutta
Roanoke,Virginia,
U.S.A.
Here is a E-mail sent by the executive office when pay pal found out I wrote the Attorney General
#7Author of original report
Thu, January 22, 2009
From: executiveoffice@paypal.com
Sent: Wed 1/21/09 11:56 AM
To: Delbert
Dear Delbert xxxxxx, My name is Brittany and I work for the office of Executive Escalations. I want to thank you for contacting PayPal. Your concerns were recently forwarded to our office for review in the hope that we might be able to assist you further. I apologize, however, PayPal's decision to discontinue doing business with you is final. The funds in your PayPal account will be held for 180 days and we can do as we please with these funds. Although we deeply regret that you may feel the need to escalate this issue further, as an ethical company, providing a valuable service, and operating in accordance with all applicable laws as well as the terms ofour User Agreement, we will gladly respond to any inquiry you may feel the need to make regarding this matter. I sincerely apologize for the difficulties you have encountered while using PayPal. If you have further questions, please email executiveoffice@paypal.com Sincerely,BrittanyExecutive Escalations PayPal, an eBay Company
My reply was
If we are no longer doing buisness I demand my money NOW!
I have heard nothing from them..
Delbertbutta
Roanoke,Virginia,
U.S.A.
Here is some Proof from others on video and websites about Pay Pal
#7Author of original report
Thu, January 22, 2009
Websites that are intresting about how pay pal will freeze your account for no reason other then to make money off your money be careful it will happen to you also if you sell high volume
Posted Oct-25-08 10:14:09 PDT Updated Jan-12-09 02:03:46 PST
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5UIlzb51Oc
http://www.flixya.com/video/328610/Pay_Pal_part_two
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lr_7--e5A1g&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPZO9VIBfU8&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lL3idEI0lnA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lL3idEI0lnA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDwQiErBj_M&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmHbubFW8JI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByxnB2SBbjM&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTBOy6DM--c&NR=1
http://www.paypalsucks.com/