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PayPal PayPal.com helps merchants steal your money fraudulent ripoff business Palo Alto, California
BEWARE of PayPal.com. They usually do not respond to complaints about the merchants that the do business with, until your second or third attempt. Then if your complaint is about a purchase over 30 days old, they tell you you're out of luck.
For instance,
I signed up with a company called theperfectmatrix.com (beware of these dirtbags too). They stated in their guarantee that they guarantee you willbe making $1000 per week within 120 days, or 100% of your money back.
It never happened. I emailed them several times for a refund, but no reply ever. I disputed the charge w/PayPal.com and they told me that it was more than 30 days so nothing could be done. Why do they allow a merchat to make a claim like the 120 day guarantee, if they won't honor it.
It's a scam and I would not be surprised if they were in this deal together. The bottom line is, both of these companies are run by greedy scumbags and should be put out of business. Do yourself a favor and don't do business with either company, they will screw you too eventually.
If any of the scum from either of these companies reads this, I promise you, it's not over until your 6 feet under scumbag. I will continue to post this message and others like it, until everyone on the planet knows your game. F.U. d****ebag.
Sincerely,
Your worst nightmare!
Tom
East Brunswick, New Jersey
3 Updates & Rebuttals
john
IRVINE,California,
U.S.A.
SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER
#4Consumer Comment
Tue, December 10, 2002
As a customer of PayPal I suggest you read the terms of use. I have, and know what I am covered for and not covered. The agreement YOU signed upon signing pretty much says it all. You made a payment to a pyramid scheme. That was your first ridiculous mistake.
Your second mistake is thinking an insitution will ever suffer a loss due to your greedy intentions of making lots of money for no work. Try going to your bank and telling em you fell for a scam. See if they say "wow you poor Dear we will take money out of our pockets to pay for your stupidity" Sorry buddy life isn't like that. You fell for a scam.
All scams are based on 1 thing for success. They appeal to your greed. They offer you high dividends for little input. There is something out there called reasonable man's law. If a reasonable man thinks it is so then probably should be so.
No reasonable man would dare think their bank, finance company or payment service should be liable for a customer falling for a scam. Did PayPal recommend this company as a investment opportunity? Highly unlikely. I understand, you know you were stupid and you want to lash out. Buddy look in the mirror or at this matrix company.. you are the only two parties at fault.. period.
Pls don't say PayPal gives some sort of tacit approval by having this matrix company in system. They aren't don't be stupid. Sheesh people like you drive me nuts. $1000 per week within 120 days or 100% refund.. Give me a break. Only a complete moron falls for these pyramid schemes... Tom be a man for once admit you made a mistake quit blaming others.
Tom
East Brunswick,New Jersey,
paypal.com and theperfectmatrix.com ( scumbags )
#4Consumer Suggestion
Tue, July 02, 2002
The Perfectmatrix.com is an online business opportunity that guarantees that you will be making $1000.00 a week within 90 days. The total cost is $104.00. After 90 days I was making nothing. I emailed the company, no response. I have since emailed them several times and still no answer.
I disputed the charge with Paypal and they did not reply either. Nothing new for them, they usually don't answer complaints until 2 or 3 requests. When they did answer, they stated that they only guarantee purchases for 30 days.
How convenient for theperfect matrix. I'm sure they thought about this when they decided to offer their 90 days guarantee. I have continued to email them over and over again, but not a single reply. Below is their contact info. I would appreciate anyone emailing them telling them that they saw them here on the badbusinessbureau.com board. Don't let them steal your money!
Sherman Mills
202-777-2643X5607
ADMIN@THEPERFECTMATRIX.COM
Ed Nark
EDNARK@WM.EDU
Domain Name: THEPERFECTMATRIX.COM
Created on: 24-Feb-01
Expires on: 24-Feb-04
Last Updated on: 30-Oct-01
Administrative Contact:
mills, sherman ADMIN@THEPERFECTMATRIX.COM
THE PERFECT MATRIX
2020 Pennsylvania Ave. NW #404
Washington, DC 20006
United States
202-777-2643X5607
Technical Contact:
NARK, ED EDNARK@WM.EDU
THE PERFECT MATRIX
TO BE ADDED
VIENNA, Virginia 000000
United States
Tom
East Brunswick, North Carolina
Click here to read other Rip Off Reports on PayPal
Rebuttal Submitted: 5/8/2002 8:17:26 PM
Modified: 7/2/2002 12:14:47 PM
Another e-pyramid scheme
Tom,
You aren't the only victim of The Perfect Matrix. For more information about this money making scheme go to www.worldwidescam.com. It looks like an e-pyramid scheme to me. You should report them to the Federal Trade Commission at www.ftc.gov, the FBI at www.fbi.gov and make a complaint to their web host. Make sure you file a complaint against Pay Pal as well; I'm disappointed at the lack of concern by Pay Pal about this scheme and others.
Then go to your nearest courthouse and file in small claims court, they'll never show so you will win by default.
Thanks for letting everyone know about this business "floportunity."
Good Luck
The Fraud Chick
TheFraudChick@aol.com - Ethics, Arkansas
Rebuttal Submitted: 5/8/2002 10:05:51 PM
Modified: 7/2/2002 12:14:47 PM
Report the issue to WM!!!
One idea. The "technical support" guy, Ed Nark has an college e-mail, William and Mary. How about reporting to the college the fraudulent activity? HOW some guy use their server for a scam?
write a letter to the President of the WM :
Timothy J. Sullivan, President tjsull@wm.edu
This is an old very reputable college.... They will find the guy:-)
anti - ny, New York
Rebuttal Submitted: 5/8/2002 11:24:19 PM
Modified: 7/2/2002 12:14:47 PM
A suggestion
The WHOIS info shows the technical contact is Ed Nark and his email is ednark@wm.edu.
It did not take much digging to find that wm.edu is The College of William and Mary. This is a public institution in Williamsburg VA.
I suggest that you pitch a b***h with the school. Someone associated with the school is using the school's equipment to support a rip-off MLM venture. My experience with publicly-funded institutions is that they will take a complaint very seriously. Go to their website at www.wm.edu for contact info.
This may not get your money back but "Ed Nark" will get his butt kicked.
Larry - Phoenix, Arizona
Rebuttal Submitted: 5/9/2002 1:47:43 PM
Modified: 7/2/2002 12:14:47 PM
They will pay, and thanks!
Thank you all for your comments. I have sent this entire page to the william and mary school. As a matter of fact, I emailed everyone on their contact list, just to be sure the s**t hits the fan. I am a man on a mission. I don't need the money, it just pisses me off that scum like this think it's Ok to rip people off.
thanks again,
Tom - East Brunswick, New Jersey
Update Submitted: 7/2/2002 6:32:28 AM
Modified: 7/2/2002 12:14:47 PM
Un-perfectmatrix loses the fight
I beat those thieving bastards at their game. The key to winning against unscrupulous companies is persistence. the perfectmatrix (http://www.theperfectmatrix.com/) has attempted to steal as much money from as many people as possible before people catch on to what is happening.
They guarantee that you will be making $1000 per week within 120 days, Guaranteed!
Bull-s**t! It's nothing more than a way to steal your money. They also have an accompliss, paypal.com. Paypal only guarantees purchases through their system for 30 days. Not acceptable.
If you do not stand by a guarantee offered by a merchant, don't allow that merchant to use your service to sell their products. This is just another way for companies like the perfect matrix to take advantage of consumers. When this first happened, I contacted Payapal 3 time through their dispute form. I contacted them 3 times because the first 2 they ignored me completely. I have also experienced the same poor service throught paypal in the past. When they finally did reply, ( after I threatened them, they told me I was out of luck because they only guarantee purchases through their sevice for 30 days. After several weeks, numerous emails and more threats, I finally contacted my credit card company and disputed the charge with them. I aslo had a portion of the money taken from my papal cash balance, so I still had to continue to press paypal for a refund.
The perfect matrix will lie to you, steal from you and cheat you if you let them. If you have been ripped off bythese scum bags, keep fighting. Harass the hell out of paypal, or contact your credit card company until you get your money. It's the only way.
These assholes want to keep your money and won't give it back without a fight. $104.00 won't make me or brake me, but I would rather burn the money than let those pieces of s**t have it. If you work for paypal or the perfect matrix, check back here often. I will make sure you stay near the top of the scum bag list for assholes.
Sincerely,
The wrong guy to f*** with
Tom
East Brunswick,New Jersey,
paypal.com and theperfectmatrix.com ( scumbags )
#4Consumer Suggestion
Tue, July 02, 2002
The Perfectmatrix.com is an online business opportunity that guarantees that you will be making $1000.00 a week within 90 days. The total cost is $104.00. After 90 days I was making nothing. I emailed the company, no response. I have since emailed them several times and still no answer.
I disputed the charge with Paypal and they did not reply either. Nothing new for them, they usually don't answer complaints until 2 or 3 requests. When they did answer, they stated that they only guarantee purchases for 30 days.
How convenient for theperfect matrix. I'm sure they thought about this when they decided to offer their 90 days guarantee. I have continued to email them over and over again, but not a single reply. Below is their contact info. I would appreciate anyone emailing them telling them that they saw them here on the badbusinessbureau.com board. Don't let them steal your money!
Sherman Mills
202-777-2643X5607
ADMIN@THEPERFECTMATRIX.COM
Ed Nark
EDNARK@WM.EDU
Domain Name: THEPERFECTMATRIX.COM
Created on: 24-Feb-01
Expires on: 24-Feb-04
Last Updated on: 30-Oct-01
Administrative Contact:
mills, sherman ADMIN@THEPERFECTMATRIX.COM
THE PERFECT MATRIX
2020 Pennsylvania Ave. NW #404
Washington, DC 20006
United States
202-777-2643X5607
Technical Contact:
NARK, ED EDNARK@WM.EDU
THE PERFECT MATRIX
TO BE ADDED
VIENNA, Virginia 000000
United States
Tom
East Brunswick, North Carolina
Click here to read other Rip Off Reports on PayPal
Rebuttal Submitted: 5/8/2002 8:17:26 PM
Modified: 7/2/2002 12:14:47 PM
Another e-pyramid scheme
Tom,
You aren't the only victim of The Perfect Matrix. For more information about this money making scheme go to www.worldwidescam.com. It looks like an e-pyramid scheme to me. You should report them to the Federal Trade Commission at www.ftc.gov, the FBI at www.fbi.gov and make a complaint to their web host. Make sure you file a complaint against Pay Pal as well; I'm disappointed at the lack of concern by Pay Pal about this scheme and others.
Then go to your nearest courthouse and file in small claims court, they'll never show so you will win by default.
Thanks for letting everyone know about this business "floportunity."
Good Luck
The Fraud Chick
TheFraudChick@aol.com - Ethics, Arkansas
Rebuttal Submitted: 5/8/2002 10:05:51 PM
Modified: 7/2/2002 12:14:47 PM
Report the issue to WM!!!
One idea. The "technical support" guy, Ed Nark has an college e-mail, William and Mary. How about reporting to the college the fraudulent activity? HOW some guy use their server for a scam?
write a letter to the President of the WM :
Timothy J. Sullivan, President tjsull@wm.edu
This is an old very reputable college.... They will find the guy:-)
anti - ny, New York
Rebuttal Submitted: 5/8/2002 11:24:19 PM
Modified: 7/2/2002 12:14:47 PM
A suggestion
The WHOIS info shows the technical contact is Ed Nark and his email is ednark@wm.edu.
It did not take much digging to find that wm.edu is The College of William and Mary. This is a public institution in Williamsburg VA.
I suggest that you pitch a b***h with the school. Someone associated with the school is using the school's equipment to support a rip-off MLM venture. My experience with publicly-funded institutions is that they will take a complaint very seriously. Go to their website at www.wm.edu for contact info.
This may not get your money back but "Ed Nark" will get his butt kicked.
Larry - Phoenix, Arizona
Rebuttal Submitted: 5/9/2002 1:47:43 PM
Modified: 7/2/2002 12:14:47 PM
They will pay, and thanks!
Thank you all for your comments. I have sent this entire page to the william and mary school. As a matter of fact, I emailed everyone on their contact list, just to be sure the s**t hits the fan. I am a man on a mission. I don't need the money, it just pisses me off that scum like this think it's Ok to rip people off.
thanks again,
Tom - East Brunswick, New Jersey
Update Submitted: 7/2/2002 6:32:28 AM
Modified: 7/2/2002 12:14:47 PM
Un-perfectmatrix loses the fight
I beat those thieving bastards at their game. The key to winning against unscrupulous companies is persistence. the perfectmatrix (http://www.theperfectmatrix.com/) has attempted to steal as much money from as many people as possible before people catch on to what is happening.
They guarantee that you will be making $1000 per week within 120 days, Guaranteed!
Bull-s**t! It's nothing more than a way to steal your money. They also have an accompliss, paypal.com. Paypal only guarantees purchases through their system for 30 days. Not acceptable.
If you do not stand by a guarantee offered by a merchant, don't allow that merchant to use your service to sell their products. This is just another way for companies like the perfect matrix to take advantage of consumers. When this first happened, I contacted Payapal 3 time through their dispute form. I contacted them 3 times because the first 2 they ignored me completely. I have also experienced the same poor service throught paypal in the past. When they finally did reply, ( after I threatened them, they told me I was out of luck because they only guarantee purchases through their sevice for 30 days. After several weeks, numerous emails and more threats, I finally contacted my credit card company and disputed the charge with them. I aslo had a portion of the money taken from my papal cash balance, so I still had to continue to press paypal for a refund.
The perfect matrix will lie to you, steal from you and cheat you if you let them. If you have been ripped off bythese scum bags, keep fighting. Harass the hell out of paypal, or contact your credit card company until you get your money. It's the only way.
These assholes want to keep your money and won't give it back without a fight. $104.00 won't make me or brake me, but I would rather burn the money than let those pieces of s**t have it. If you work for paypal or the perfect matrix, check back here often. I will make sure you stay near the top of the scum bag list for assholes.
Sincerely,
The wrong guy to f*** with