PLATINUM INNOVATIONS - PHIL REDD SCAM ARTIST / INTERNET FRAUD/ FTC CASE PENDING / DO NOT DO BUSINESS!! salt lake city, Utah
| I was approched by PHIL REDD & this company WHY THRIVE and was asked to make a decision yes or no by the end of the phone call, no time to think about it, pray about it or mull it over. The first person I talked to said I would be investing about $4000 but I would need to schedule and talk to another person. The conversation started with "If I was accepted to be a student of their company". The first part of the conversation was working around the bush to see how many credit cards I had, what the limits where, and how much I owed. I did not like this type of questioning, so I made up some numbers which were over 10 cc's 100, 000 credit limit and about $50, 000 debt I had a credit score of 756 and paid my bills on time. After the sell pitch, I ask what this would cost me to start and the figure went to 15, 000. When I challanged him with the first price of $4000, he jumped out with I could be eligible for a scholorship, could I hold and he would be right back. The right back price was $4890.36. Then I asked for a blank copy of the contract and was told, they could not mail it, because it contained information that was confidential and would discose programing information that could not be disclosed whithout membership . What a bunch of crap... So I was hustled to the part of which CC would you like to use... I told them I did not keep my credit cards here, they were in a file at my office, so I would not be tempted to use them foolishly... They agreed to call back the next day, which they did and I said, I decided not to accept their offer, because I did not feel I could devote the time (12 Months) to get a return on my investment. They asked why I decided against them and I mentioned the 2 prices and said I did not like the time frame of 12 months to make my $5000. and they said oh no you can possibley make it back in 2 months.. The last words they said when I said no, was "we figured that is what you say". I am so glad I did not invest.. But my heart is out to you that have. Check some of the other web sites on these scammers and see what other names they are doing business as... There is a HUGH list. They are big in the UK also... the same scam, just a new name.. These guys must be rich on us gullibles trying to make a few bucks.. They are pushing the BBB site, and I went there and noticed they had a C rating and were not accredited. They fast talked and said, we are listed by the BBB, so we must be accredited and quickly changed the subject. THEY ARE SMOOTH.. I have filed a case with the FTC and Utah attorney generals office. They said they recieve hundreds of complaints a month from this company. If you have been scammed like me file a case with the UTAH CONSUMER PROTECTION OFFICE @ 801-520-6601 (reference any one of the complaints below and you will receive a 100% REFUND!!!!) I opened a complaint with Department of Commerce State of Utah. They is in violation of 132611. Prohibited practices. (1) It is unlawful for any solicitor: (c) to make or cause to be made any untrue material statement, or fail to disclose a material fact necessary to make any statement made not misleading, whether in connection with a telephone solicitation or a filing with the division; (d) to make or authorize the making of any misrepresentation about its compliance with this chapter to any prospective or actual purchaser; (e) to fail to refund within 30 days any amount due a purchaser who exercises the right to cancel under Section 13265; or (f) to fail to orally advise a purchaser of the purchaser's right to cancel under Section 13265 unless the solicitor is exempt under Section 13264. |
1 Updates & Rebuttals
Mr. Jones
Utah,USA
Completely False Report
#2REBUTTAL Owner of company
Thu, March 04, 2010
This report is completely false! The company that reported this false statement is actually the ones that are being investigated. This company is a competitor of Platinum and after finding out that two of their business consultants left there company to work at Platinum, they took it very personal and decided to write this long completely false statement. Because of their unprofessional actions they are now being investigated by our Attorney.
As you read through the false information you will notice the fake name and the wording is very inflated and very detailed. This company also included the consumer protection number which is kind of surprising because you could call them and ask if there has been any complaints about our company and they will tell you know there hasnt. I also found out that the company that made this report has been investigated and fined for their aggressive sales practice.
I would really like to give up the name of this company but my attorney recommended that I dont say anything until he is done with his investigation. However this company will get a notification email that there has been a rebuttal placed on their comment. So maybe we will get lucky and they will respond to this rebuttal, but I doubt very highly that they would dig themselves into a bigger ditch.
Sorry if this has brought any confusion and if you have any doubt feel free to call the consumer protection division or search our BBB record, we have a B+ rating. http://utah.bbb.org/
Thanks
Owner
W. Jones