Private Mentoring Group Earned absolutely NOTHING using their program! Provo Utah
This is a company that markets several types of "businesses" (i.e. Internet, Real Estate, Stocks, etc.) and (for a large fee of course) gives you coaching regarding each business. I decided to try the Internet business option. After following my coach's (who I now doubt really had ANY true credentials) recommendations for over a year, I failed to earn even one red cent. And I'm STILL cleaning up the HUGE mess.
All that happened was that I ended up in even more debt than when I started and I may actually have to file for backruptcy to get out of it. Is that financial independence as their site touts? Not quite.
When I stated that I hadn't earned anything to them and wanted my original "startup" fee back, they offered me more coaching. Why would I want MORE of something that didn't work in the first place?!
Then they cut off all communication with me. And of course, they kept my money. Despite the fancy website, well known partners (by the way, their list reads like a who's who of other well established crooks out there), their programs are absolutely worthless. STAY AWAY!
Roger
Pottstown, Pennsylvania
U.S.A.
6 Updates & Rebuttals
Reid
Aiea,Hawaii,
U.S.A.
PMG is definitely a SCAM operation and their business is without question fraudulent.
#7Consumer Suggestion
Tue, January 11, 2005
Hey there Everyone,
I hope that this rebuttal finds you in good spirits and health.
PMG is definitely a SCAM operation and their business is without question fraudulent. I am interested in an open interview/discussion with any employee of PMG.
Any legitimate business, that had nothing to hide would jump at the opportunity to be interviewed by myself, and would have absolutely no problem with my video crew taping and airing the program.
JUST A FEW QUESTIONS FOR DEVIN:
1. If your program is legitimate, why are you in the business of selling your "wealth building information" as opposed to using the tecniques yourself?
2. In another post you claim to be a "success story" of PMG, are you willing and able to furnish PROOF of this?
3. Why does the cost of your program differ from victim to victim? Directly proportional to ones "available credit?"
4. Why does the cost of your restocking fee differ from victim to victim?
5. What the f%ck is your restocking fee for?
6. How difficult is it to restock merchandise?
7. If it's to the point where you feel the consumer should pay a restocking fee, that should tell you something about your program.
8. Does your company record ones agreement to enroll? If so WHY?
9. Does your company record it's sales peoples bogus sales pitches? If not WHY?
A. Could it be because your company is fraudulent and is aware of the fact, that it blatantly misleads it's victims into a non-existant program?
B. Lure and trap?
C. Could it be because your fraudulent company is aware of the fact, that it is selling bags of gold, while delivering bags of $hit?
10. Does your fraudulent company's contract stipulate the exact terms and conditions? If not WHY?
11. Does your fraudulent company's contract stipulate the exact policies and procedures and any reprocussions in the event of a breech? If not WHY?
12. Do you allow interested parties to review the contract prior to signing? If not WHY?
13. Does your fraudulent company's contract contain ALL pertinent items necessary to be considered a legally binding agreement?
14. Has your fraudulent company's contract been drafted and reviewed by an attorney? If not WHY?
I have many more questions that I would like to ask, but am afraid of wasting my time. I would like to meet you in person Devin, where we could discuss this in an open forum and in a professional manner.
I would also be interested in meeting "Peppermint Pattie" and have the interview/discussion video taped and aired.
There are far too many unacknowledged, unresolved, and unanswered questions regarding your program and shady business practices. Let's bring it out in the open and lay it all out on the table, just as any legitimate business would be eager to do.
Until we meet, take care Everyone cause I care, Aloha from Hawaii and God Bless.
Roger
Pottstown,Pennsylvania,
U.S.A.
Too little, too late...
#7Author of original report
Mon, January 10, 2005
Well, I managed to avoid bankruptcy, but had to file for debt settlement instead. So my credit is completely trashed.
PMG's fee is only the beginning part of running their recommended "businesses". A refund would make no difference at this point (and they would never give it to me after this amount of time anyway). I hold PMG directly responsible for my horrendous financial situation because of following their program. Again, I urge anyone reading this to put your money elsewhere. Even under the mattress would be better than giving it to PMG.
P.S. I did send e-mails, which were ignored.
Nicky
Simpsonville,South Carolina,
U.S.A.
If at first you don't succeed, try again. The only way to fail is to give up!
#7Consumer Comment
Wed, December 15, 2004
I encourage you to try again for a refund with PMG. I was scammed by PMG but received a refund. My advise is to send emails rather than talking over the phone. (I had better success with emails and letters) Also, it would be wise to file with the Better Business Bureau in Utah. Here is the direct link:
http://www.saltlakecity.bbb.org/complaintsearch.html
You are not alone in your experience with PMG. I encourage you to push for a refund. Do it for the sake of your bank account.... and your self-esteem. You'll be glad you did!
James
Monrovia,California,
U.S.A.
It Seems worth your time to call
#7Consumer Suggestion
Wed, December 15, 2004
Roger,
I just checked on this company by thoshe who posed complaints on this website and it looks like they refunded or resolved most of the cases. It might be worth trying to call Devin Willis and see if you can work something out.
Roger
Pottstown,Pennsylvania,
U.S.A.
Pmg Mentors Private Mentoring Group Earned absolutely NOTHING using their program! Provo Utah
#7Author of original report
Sun, December 12, 2004
First off, I didn't live in Pottstown when dealing with this company. But I have dealt personally with Devin. He did nothing. They certainly don't help people (read some of the other posts if you have ANY doubts). I would never speak to these "people" directly again. I have much better things to do with my time. Take your hard earned money and SAVE or invest it. Please, please, please, don't give it to this company! You can start your own business without their help. Everything that they provide can be found in the library or on the Internet for FREE (not $3000.00 and way up). And it would have better spelling and grammar without a doubt. You could also get MUCH better coaching by reading a few books written by successful business people (NOT the scam artists please), or (even better) actually picking the brain of somebody's who's actually RUNNING a successful business (unlike PMG's coaches). Again, STAY AWAY!
P.S. If you're reading this and thinking about starting a business, my advice is to earn a few bucks BEFORE you worry about anything else (i.e. business structure, websites, etc.) If you go in the opposite order (as PMG dictates), then can't make any money, you'll end up further in debt with no way out but to scrap everything and start all over again. A HUGE waste of your time and money. And nearly impossible if you were on the brink financially to begin with.
Devin
Provo,Utah,
U.S.A.
We do Help People
#7UPDATE Employee
Sat, December 11, 2004
My name is Devin Willis and I am the manager of Student Care. I was concerned by this post by Roger on this fourm and serched our data base and could not find a Roger in Pottstown. We do have three other students in that town that to my knowleage are content with us. None of them are named Roger, so I want to help if this person or anyone else needs help resolving concerns with their program pleas contact me dircetly at:
Devin Willis
800-748-5199 Ext 4056
work e-mail devin@pmgmentors.com
home e-mail devin.willis.com
P.S I will do the right thing.