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  • Report:  #809490

Complaint Review: Psychic Power Network (PPN)

Psychic Power Network (PPN) PPN, .psychicpowernetwork.com Unethical Removal of Feedback Internet, Internet

  • Reported By:
    Anonymous — New York New York United States of America
  • Submitted:
    Wed, December 14, 2011
  • Updated:
    Sun, September 06, 2015

I was contacted by Click4Advisor (the company that facilitates calls to the network) with regard to a negative feedback I left for advisor Vallentina Rose on PPN.  There was an offer made to give me 10 free minutes of talk time to compensate for the negative experience I had with her (completely inaccurate information on something I knew to be false because it already happened) and I was asked whether I'd like to confirm or deny this offer.  I opted to deny; I feel it's highly unethical to remove an honest appraisal of a psychic's skills because it taints the feedback process, which is crucial in the client's choice of who they'd like to speak to.  But what's more unethical than offering to have the feedback removed is what happened next; despite the fact that I denied this offer, the feedback was removed anyway.  Granted, the money spent on the call was credited back to my card but that's not the point.  PPN has terms of service that callers are asked to abide by when leaving feedback for advisors (indeed, negative feedback for advisor Elaina Jo was recently removed because the caller used the word "fake" in his/her appraisal of the service, a violation of the TOS) and I took extra care to make sure that my feedback was in the guidelines.  Rather than name call and spew anger I simply stated what the advisor got wrong and that her service "did not work for me."  I find it unfortunate that a feedback process is encouraged so long as the feedback is positive.  

I'm sure many callers have experienced this same unfortunate phenomenon.  I'm curious to hear about your experiences as well.  Please feel free to reply.

29 Updates & Rebuttals


Marta1961

Meridian,
Idaho,
USA

well?? did you??...

#30Consumer Comment

Sun, September 06, 2015

I was wondering if you were given a free reading. Let me know...thank you. Marta


Ed''s

Gulfport,
Mississippi,
United States of America

I Will Take the Free Reading

#30General Comment

Sat, April 21, 2012

I can't believe no one yet has been open minded enough to accept the OPs offer. The world is full of possibilities. I would love to try your offer and see how accurate it is. I have a background in science and psychology so I'm familiar with keeping things objective. I've never had a reading before. Tell me how to contact you.


ANNEMARIE_

Rochester,
New York,
United States of America

PPN Possible Misunderstanding

#30UPDATE Employee

Thu, March 15, 2012

Hello--my name is ANNEMARIE_ and I am a Psychic Power Network Advisor ID#78623.  I found this "Ripoff Report" by accident while surfing the Internet, and I have to say I'm surprised.  I've been a Psychic Consultant online for only about 2 months now--coming from a 25 year background as a traveling "circuit" psychic and very new to the phone line psychic technology.  Here's why I'm surprised--I was given a telephone "test" surprise call by the Network to make sure my Readings were acceptable/accurate/compassionate--we are all e-mailed a 25 page Manual of phone etiquette--part of which contains emergency referral numbers in case we need them for our clients; PPN is the first and ONLY Psychic phone Reading agency I would ever work for.  With regard to feedback, I am very fortunate to have, in my first few weeks with PPN, gotten some absolutely astonishing feedback--and I might add--feedback I never asked for as I felt it took away from a client's "time" to give them information on the steps involved in leaving feedback--yet, the clients who chose to leave feedback were very kind and generous in their praise.  Again, I am not in a position to dispute that someone contacted the anonymous Rip Off person--because I do not speak for management or their policies.  I know that when I owned an in-person Psychic Reading Shoppe--anyone who was not happy with their Reading, for whatever reason, was refunded their money OR given the opportunity to go to another Reader--their choice, always.  Is it possible that PPN was making the same offer to the person posting the Rip Off claim?  My reputation is extremely important to me and I would not work under any circumstances for a company whose policies toward me, what I do, or how I treat my clients, was anything less than ethical and caring.  I believe PPN, is such a company.  Before leaving bad feedback because a psychic has not been able to "tune in" or Read you accurately, end the call; complain to the PPN network--they may have an explanation for you--Psychics are human, spiritually oriented most of the time, but human, susceptible to having a bad psychic day--my mother always said, "if you can't say something good, don't say anything at all", and she was right.  Just because the Psychic could not Read that anonymous person--doesn't make him/her a bad Reader--just a Reader who was not meant for that particular client--what we do as Readers is not a perfect science--we believe the Universe provides us with the clients we should have, most of the time...I'm sorry Anonymous had a reading that didn't fit; it is clear to me that the PPN tried to make amends by refunding his/her money...that's all I have to offer.


This Is The Truth

St Petersburg,
Florida,
USA

Psychic Believers: Super Fools LIke This One

#30Consumer Comment

Sun, January 15, 2012

Sometimes I wonder where these people actually come from and if they actually live in the real world and live on the planet that normal people actually live on.

...But let's just help them understand about believing in psychic phenomenon since it appears that they need a lot of help and by that we mean mental help.....

Psychics believers are fools
Psychics believers are great fools
Psychics believers are major fools
Psychics believers are magnificent fools
Psychics believers are awesome at being fools...and in the long run we can say that..
Psychics believers are just plain.   Super fools
...And..
...Super Fools Always End Up Fooling Themselves and Others In A Supremely Senseless Way.
...And...
...That's Why We Cal Them...Super Fools


Ken

Colorado,
USA

That's pretty funny....

#30Consumer Comment

Sat, December 17, 2011

"Ahhhh, that makes sense. AUTHOR: Anonymous - Far Rockaway (United States of America)SUBMITTED: Saturday, December 17, 2011POSTED: Saturday, December 17, 2011

Now I see why I didn't get that Chuckles reference right away lol. It's a fact that people of your generation find it hard to wrap their failing brains around a concept that challenges them to think outside the box. Try keeping your mind sharp with things like Sudoku or Scrabble. It really helps to develop and maintain the strength of the neocortex, which is the part of the brain that controls abstract thought, problem solving and analytical reasoning.

All the best to you! :) Fun chatting."

I'm also approximately his generation and have NEVER believed in the "seers" or any of their ilk.

Looks like the aging process hasn't changed much in that regard...at least in my case.

Gotta go now, I was going to do something...can't remember what it was.


Anonymous

Far Rockaway,
New York,
United States of America

Ahhhh, that makes sense.

#30Author of original report

Sat, December 17, 2011

Now I see why I didn't get that Chuckles reference right away lol. It's a fact that people of your generation find it hard to wrap their failing brains around a concept that challenges them to think outside the box. Try keeping your mind sharp with things like Sudoku or Scrabble. It really helps to develop and maintain the strength of the neocortex, which is the part of the brain that controls abstract thought, problem solving and analytical reasoning.

All the best to you! :) Fun chatting.


Joseph Brown

Spartanburg,
South Carolina,
USA

Good riddance

#30Consumer Comment

Sat, December 17, 2011

Besides you aren't as astute as Chuckles is. Little sidenote for you. I'm not sitting in my mother's basement. I have 3 great grand children and had this house built 40 yrs ago.


Anonymous

Far Rockaway,
New York,
United States of America

You lose.

#30Author of original report

Sat, December 17, 2011

That is all.

:)


Ramjet

Somewhere,
Michigan,
U.S.A.

Reasoning?

#30Consumer Comment

Fri, December 16, 2011

Your reasoning, arguments and logic are well beyond absurd and you know it.  I will not dignify your silliness with any more attention.

I'm sure you will find more poor deluded, desperate suckers to scam but at least I tried.

I would hope that some day you understand the damage you cause but I seriously doubt you care.


Ramjet

Somewhere,
Michigan,
U.S.A.

Reasoning?

#30Consumer Comment

Fri, December 16, 2011

Your reasoning, arguments and logic are well beyond absurd and you know it.  I will not dignify your silliness with any more attention.

I'm sure you will find more poor deluded, desperate suckers to scam but at least I tried.

I would hope that some day you understand the damage you cause but I seriously doubt you care.


Anonymous

Far Rockaway,
New York,
United States of America

Why so serious?

#30Author of original report

Fri, December 16, 2011

You sound awfully mad for someone who thinks this is bs. So much so that you felt the need to write on this post. So I guess that means I have to respond yet again. :)

My friend DOESN'T advertise. That's just it. Her services are by word of mouth and her client base is all people she knows. Referrals are how she operates. I didn't come here to advertise. I came here to bring to light this particular situation with PPN. And the only reason why I mentioned her is because of Ramjet making a blanket statement. I wanted to prove him wrong. And if he mans up and accepts, then I'll succeed.

FYI Ramjet: Spoke to my friend about the Randi challenge. She checked it out. If she agrees to do it, will you agree to a free call? Seems only fair.


Inspector

Tobyhanna,
Pennsylvania,
USA

You ARE a shill.

#30Consumer Comment

Fri, December 16, 2011

That is obvious.  You don't have to generate customers to be successful just advertise and stimulate interest.  Sometimes the best advertising is an adversarial debate.

You think you have all the answers but what you're saying makes no sense what so ever, nonsense retorts such as "you will not lower yourself to call a psychic why lower yourself to talk about one". 

It's obvious that you are peddling your psychic on all who question, but it is like telling an educated person to go ahead and make a wish at the well, I bet you it will come true, I will even throw in the coin.  Only a gullible FOOL will take you up on it.


Anonymous

Far Rockaway,
New York,
United States of America

You use THIS as your source of entertainment?

#30Author of original report

Fri, December 16, 2011

That's kinda sad, you guys. There IS life outside the Internet. Try venturing out of your mom's basement every once in awhile and have some real fun like a movie or rockclimbing or road trip. If you can't "lower" yourself to talk TO a psychic than you shouldn't lower yourself to talk ABOUT one, either. Be the bigger person and rise above the "frauds" by not entertaining this conversation with a response. Give you a perfect example. I believe in God. Do you see me posting on atheist internet boards saying how stupid they all are? No. There's no point. Because I know what I believe and I don't feel the need to bash others whose opinions are different than mine. That, and I have a full life with grad school (NYU, thanks), a secure government job and a host of family and friends.

To address your point about my actually being a scammer or "shill" and not having an authentic complaint: if that were true, I'd be doing a poor job seeing as how I'm not asking for money and even offering to pay for anyone who wants to accept my challenge. Usually people who are scamming don't put their money (or reputation) on the line. Further, any psychic who has to ask YOU anything is a fake. REAL psychics answer questions, not ask them as the fakes do with a cold reading. Also, this individual doesn't need to use tools to give her answers so your mentioning of contraptions and all that is irrelevant. You tell her your name, you ask her your question, she gives you the answer. Period.

Any questions?


Joseph Brown

Spartanburg,
South Carolina,
USA

RAMJET

#30Consumer Comment

Fri, December 16, 2011

Well put, sir. I also find this site refreshing and in some cases, downright hilarious(cue Chuckles). You know the old saying,"a fool and his money..."


Ramjet

Somewhere,
Michigan,
U.S.A.

Deluded

#30Consumer Comment

Fri, December 16, 2011

What a bunch of crap.  There is no way in the world I would lower myself to call a fraud er - psychic.  They are indeed all 100% frauds and they all know it. 

JREF has been around for years and is completely legitimate.  The prize money can be verified and all testing procedures have to agreed upon by BOTH parties so there can be no equivocation whether the 'psychic' succeeds or fails.  Sure sounds fair to me.  But as I stated,  this fraud you're talking about has a variety of excuses and will never agree to any kind of real test.  I know and they definitely know it.

When someone calls in to a 'psychic' the entire process is under control of the 'psychic' that's why you want someone to call.  We are aware of many of the sleazy techniques they use:  cold reading, fishing, warm reading, even Internet searches.  There is a great deal of information on the internet about just about everyone once you have a name or even an IP address. I'm certain there are other sleazy procedures I'm not even aware of.  If you just call someone you have no idea what they are doing.  However, under controlled conditions (this is why your 'friend LOL' will never submit to proper testing) there can be no sneaky methods used.  It would all be upfront which is the very last thing any 'psychic' wants.

I read ROR because it's entertaining, I comment on 'psychic' ripoffs because it's easily the sleaziest, nastiest scam going.  People report here about losing thousands of dollars or even their entire life savings to these frauds.  Then when they are out of money, they are 'kicked to the curb'.

I realize I probably will not get through to anyone gullible enough to get scammed in the first place but for some reason I feel compelled to keep trying.

Either you are indeed one of the scammers or you are completely deluded.

My statement stands.  Until someone actually proves their ability under controlled scientific conditions I will continue to believe thet are ALL 100% frauds.


Anonymous

Far Rockaway,
New York,
United States of America

Once again.

#30Author of original report

Fri, December 16, 2011

Anyone who wants to take me up on my offer, feel free to reply and we'll take it from there. Otherwise, you're just talking nonsense.

Two things to that last poster: #1 Nobody's 100%. And yeah, there have been some timeframes that took longer than she said...but they DID happen. All of them. This is because she looks at the outcome, not the day to day bs most psychics look at. #2, I did it because I'm tired of people getting taken advantage of on that site. They falsely advertise that they test their readers before putting them on the line but they do NOT. The purpose of this exercise was an educational tool for those who use that site because it's unethical. In fact, most of them are. To address your points, I was one of those people and did waste money hoping to find that "one" but it was all bs. Not with my friend I'm referring to. She has helped me through many a tight spot. I was on the wrong path listening to this garbage for so long that I almost lost my job because of the stress I put myself through via my own stupidity. But now that I'm working with this advisor, I don't need to call 25 readers to get the answer I wanna hear. I just have to call one. And yeah, I fight her. I tell her she's wrong all the time. I get mad when things don't happen when she says but wind up calling her later to thank her when they do. The point is, gents, yes. This industry is full of frauds just waiting to take advantage of someone like I was. But to make a blanket statement saying they are ALL like that is inaccurate.

So. ONCE AGAIN. Anyone reading this who is even mildly interested in being proven wrong is invited to call my friend. If not, and you're just interested in bashing, then you're more full of $&@! then the people you call frauds.

Period.


Robert

Irvine,
California,
U.S.A.

Okay

#30Consumer Comment

Fri, December 16, 2011

I'm going to hit the OP with some "Common Sense"(yea I know) but heck let's try it anyways.

First why would you even spend $0.15 let alone $15 to "prove" something you already knew?  Next time you want to prove that a psychic is fake please instead of paying them the money..send me the money.  I will even give you a deal and only charge you $10. 

I suggest you search out "How Psychic Scams Work" and objectively compare what you find with what your "real deal" psychic does.  My guess is that you may be quite surprised about a few things.

Your "real deal" psychic will eventually start to get things wrong.  At first you will just say that even the best can't be right 100%, this may already be happening.  They will then start to get more and more things wrong..and you will probably still defend them.  Unfortunately by the time you realize that they weren't the "real deal" it will have cost you several hundred if not several thousand dollars.   

Yes this realization is very common and there are many reports on this site that people swore that they had "the one" only to find out that they were fake as well.  It is not a question of if it will happen to you..it is only a question of when it will happen.

By the way I read tea leaves as I find them a lot more reliable than other methods.  In looking at them I see that you will come up with some excuse as to why you can ignore everything I and everyone else who disagrees with you says.  You will also continue to bring up that your friend is a true psychic.


Ken

Colorado,
USA

Does this great psychic, you recommend...

#30Consumer Comment

Thu, December 15, 2011

have the ability to see the future and predict accurately future events?

If so, I would imagine this person is rich from all their winnings on races, stock market predictions, recognizing lucrative business ventures and all other "seer" activities.

Then why would they need your, or anyone elses money to "help them out?"

Oh, right this great psychic is also a great philanthropist.

Give us a break...the others are right they are ALL total FRAUDS.


voiceofreason

North Carolina,
United States of America

And the song goes on and on

#30Consumer Comment

Thu, December 15, 2011

Hey Mambo, Mambo Italiano, Hey Mambo, Mambo Witch Doctorano, Hey Mambo, Mambo Voodooiano, Hey Mambo, Mambo psychiciano, Hey Mambo...


Anonymous

Far Rockaway,
New York,
United States of America

Look, mom! Another internet troll!

#30Author of original report

Thu, December 15, 2011

What, do you people have automatic alerts to let you know when someone posts about psychics on here? Find a real hobby like stamp collecting or something.  

That said, the money I spent on this call was a measly 15 bucks (I make more than double that in an hour). The ACTUAL purpose of the call wasn't to get advice because I already knew the answer to the question I was asking.  It was to prove that 1) this particular psychic is a fraud and 2) prove that this website has unethical practices when it comes to leaving feedback.

I didn't come on here to "pimp" anyone.  In fact, I wasn't even going to mention her until you morons started talking about James Randi and his seemingly bogus challenge.  What I DID aim to do, though, was refute Ramjet's claim that "all psychics are frauds, no exceptions" by inviting him to test my friend's abilities himself, a claim which he seems to love to say over and over again no matter whose post he's commenting on (I see he's a frequent flyer on this topic). Seeing as how he's conspicuously quiet now, I'm guessing he's too afraid to put MY MONEY (I offered to pay) where his mouth is.

The offer's extended to you, too, btw.  If you can get your hand out of your pants long enough to pick up the phone and dial. 

(Btw...any ribbing I take at any of you all is good natured.  Please don't take offense.  I'm a New Yorker, I shoot from the hip.  Hope you can appreciate my tongue-in-cheek style like men and not go cryin' home to mom :))


Robert

Buffalo,
New York,
USA

I'm psychic!!! O yes I am!!!

#30Consumer Comment

Thu, December 15, 2011

Let me peer into my mystic orb.....

You have a friend who is a true psychic and yet you wasted money on a phoney psychic.  When you posted a review of the phoney, they offered a partial refund in exchange to remove the "negative vibe" review you posted.  You declined and yet they removed your poor review anyway.

Then you post a RoR to alert the world to this phoney psychic scam.  After one rebuttal, you begin to PIMP OUT your friend who is a true psychic.

As I peer deeper into my mystic orb and rub my magik crystals I see that you are a shill!  It's no wonder they removed your poor review.  They probably looked into their mystic orb and saw that you were a "phoney reviewer" who's only goal was to post comments hoping for an opportunity to shill for your friend, the true psychic!

Is that about right?

Hold the applause, but I will accept modest donations for solving this mystery!

Gotta run now, James Randi is on the line!


Anonymous

Far Rockaway,
New York,
United States of America

Blah blah blah

#30Author of original report

Thu, December 15, 2011

Like I said. Anyone who is skeptical can feel free to take me up on my offer to have my friend read for them, on me. If you don't believe in them then you shouldn't have a problem accepting the offer. Hey, we don't believe in elves, wizards or hobbits but we watch Lord of the Rings for entertainment, right? Or is your time too precious for you to "waste" on such hogwash because you'd rather sit around trolling on these posts all day long telling people how dumb they are for believing in this "crap?" Come on. Why wait months for the result of some test when you can have your incontrovertible truth TODAY. She is prepared to read for anyone who doubts her and encourages you to give her as least info as possible to ensure the validity of the process. Unless you're afraid your world will be turned upside down because the "truth" you cling to about this all being bull can be negated in one session with her. Don't get me wrong. I used to be like everyone else who bashes psychics. There's tons of storefronts here in NY who advertise palm readings, tea leaves, cards...whatever. They all failed my test (sometimes I ask them about something that already happened, sometimes I make up fake names...and this is before I even reach into my pocket to shell out one red cent). But I'm challenging you and everyone else who reads this post to accept my offer and read with my friend at no cost to you. If you don't accept, it shows me you're afraid to be wrong and only want to bash something you don't fully understand or can't explain.

Let's see who agrees to it. I'm not psychic but I bet it'll be neither of you trolls.


Joseph Brown

Spartanburg,
South Carolina,
USA

Anonymous

#30Consumer Comment

Thu, December 15, 2011

If I were stupid enough to believe in psychics I'd post as Anonymous, too. As the man said, if your psychic is real, why want they take the challenge. They could win that million and pay off that single wide.


Anonymous

Far Rockaway,
New York,
United States of America

Lol.

#30Author of original report

Thu, December 15, 2011

Such anger. But let me address your snide remarks the only way I know how: with level-headed common sense.

Rather than make my friend submit to some nebulous "preliminary" test from a seemingly bogus website (I find it ironic that for the transparency the foundation requires of those who tried and failed the test that it doesn't make it known how the test is comprised) why don't YOU put her to the test yourself. You can ask her any question you'd like, preferably one that you already know the answer to so you can verify it's legitimacy, and if it turns out to be fraudulent then you can go ahead and post a ripoff report of your own on her. How's that grab you?

What'll it be, Ram? You accept our counteroffer or are you afraid you won't like the taste of your words once you have to eat them?

Oh and FYI...the call won't cost you a dime. I'm offering to foot the bill. But if you find yourself having to add more time to the 30 minutes I'm willing to gift you because you're so blown away from what you're hearing, the rest is on you.

Eagerly awaiting your response....


Diogenes

Averill Park,
New York,
USA

Psychics

#30Consumer Comment

Thu, December 15, 2011

Indeed.  I have long been an admirer of The Amazing James Randi and his work.  As stated, his foundation has $1,000,000 on deposit ( certified ), and is available to ANYONE who can prove that they have "psychic" abilities.  The fund been there for years ( it was started in 1964 ), and though hundreds have tried, no one has ever collected a penny.  Not even Yuri Geller, the supposed "king" of these frauds.  Give me a break !!!

There is NO SUCH THING as a "psychic", "fortune teller", "medium", "love guru" or "spell caster".  They are nothing but liars and charlatans, who go after the weak minded and desperate populace.  Why on Earth do you think that many jurisdictions have laws against such thieves ???? 

Use your brain.  Don't you think that if ANYONE could actually predict the future, every "psychic" would be winning the lottery, cashing in on the stock market, saving lives by foreseeing disasters and generally making the world a better place for everyone ???  Think about it.


Ramjet

Somewhere,
Michigan,
U.S.A.

As awesome opportunity

#30Consumer Comment

Thu, December 15, 2011

Awesome, here is a golden opportunity I have been waiting for.

There is a foundation  that is interested in finding a true psychic and is prepared to award $1,000.000.00 to anyone who can demonstrate this ability in an environment mutually agreed on by the psychic and the foundation so neither side can claim any kind of cheating.  Sound logical to me.

The money is certified and can be checked out before agreeing to any testing.  If the psychic does not need (I can't imagine any true psychic being poor because they could win every lottery) or want the money, they can donate it to any charity of their choosing.

Please read this link thoroughly so you can refer your 'true' psychic to the site.

http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/1m-challenge.html

If this URL is redacted by ROR (sometimes they do that), let us know and I'll spell it out in english

I would LOVE it if anyone could actually successfully win this challenge.  Many have tried but none have succeeded yet.

I, however, will not hold my breath waiting.  I will guaranty you that this 'true' psychic will not submit to this testing but will use one or more of a long tired list of excuses why they won't accept the challenge.

What they really are saying is that they are completely aware that they are 100% fraudulent scam artists and they have no ability at all except to ripoff poor, desperate, deluded fools.

And why should they agree, they can rip people off anyway without doing anything.  You are a perfect example.

Let us know when the testing takes place so we can follow the successful result.


Anonymous

Far Rockaway,
New York,
United States of America

As a side note, Ramjet....

#30Author of original report

Thu, December 15, 2011

I've read your other PPN related posts on here.  Sounds like you were a victim of their illicitness as well, hence the anger. That was a pretty quick response to my post....what do you do, check daily to see if people are as angry at PPN as you obviously are?


Anonymous

Far Rockaway,
New York,
United States of America

Actually, Ramjet

#30Author of original report

Wed, December 14, 2011

I can direct you to one (independently operated) psychic who will blow you away.  She is the absolute real deal...so much so that a site she interviewed with hung up on her because she was too accurate and wouldn't spew the feel good bs that most psychics give on these sites.  

Let me know if you want me to direct you to the website.


Ramjet

Somewhere,
Michigan,
U.S.A.

You expected ethical behaviour?

#30Consumer Comment

Wed, December 14, 2011

This is indeed a 'fake' fraudulent and incredibly unethical outfit.  Why in the world would you expect ANYTHING  ethical from them.

They are 100% frauds of course, but I am not singling them out.  ALL - 100% - of psychics or any other ridiculous paranormal claptrap are frauds.  I know it, you should know it and they definitely know it.  Believe me, they are sitting at home laughing their asses off at your pathetic gullibility.

Please get away from all of them or they will eventually take you for everything.  We have see reports here describing that.  It is, however, difficult to feel sorry far any of you because it's so obviously a disgusting con game.

Ridiculous!

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