Referralware, BusinessDevelopmentGroup, WonderPay Took the money and ran, completely ignored me after a while, gave money away for nothing. St. George Utah
I am writing this report out of sheer frustration. It has now been about a year since I first signed up with referralware, it was one of the biggest mistakes of my life. I was in the Navy when I saw the ad on my email and it immediately caught my eye. The success reports are what really sucked me in, they made it seem as if this was to good to be true and yet genuine; of course it was to good to be true.
I called the number and talked to a man who seemed nice enough and yet to eager to get on to the part where they take my money. He definitely smooth talked me and assured me that even though I was in the Navy and had a very unpredictable schedule my coach and I could work it out and decide what was best for me. yeah right. With his impeccable aid we managed to call my bank in Maine,I was in San Diego, and pull out $2000 of my money which pretty much emptied my account but I thought it was a good investment.
It didn't end there, however, as I had to dish out six hundred more dollars over the course of five months. Eventually I had my first call from my coach as well as access to my web building software. The software was beyond me and I definitely needed the coaches help to learn how to use it. After the first lesson I talked to my coach through emails and it seemed like I was making headway.
Things changed when I had to cancel our second phone session due to the fact that I was going out to sea on my ship(I was in the Navy and still am). I left a message at least 24 hours in advance like it says on the contract saying that I had to cancel and would only be gone for a couple days. I never heard his voice again. I wrote many emails and no response, he seemed to disappear. My emails are rejected and do not even reach him now. I dont make very much money comparitively, so the fact that I've dumped over $2600 into this adventure really infuriates me.
Luke
New Smyrna Bch., Florida
U.S.A.
1 Updates & Rebuttals
Paul
Anaheim,California,
U.S.A.
Let's look at the other side of the phone conversation, shall we?
#2Consumer Suggestion
Sun, April 24, 2005
First, what the hell is going on in St. George? So many web scams come out of that little hole in the ground. I've been by there. The population can't be more than 50,000. It looks like half of them are involved in some kind of a web counseling scam.
There is no possibility of ever making good money from one of these web site cons. Of course, new people continue to think they can make money. That's why they buy into this nonsense.
Here's the side you don't see when you call these crooked companies.
There's one main crook who comes up with the whole con. He rents out the office space and sets up all the financial logistics for the scam.
You can always spot a scam simply by the name alone. Millionaire's club. Coached to riches. Golden income. Wonderpay. Miracle money. Financial superstars. They all imply big money.
They hire people to sell the con. They all use fake names. Not very inventive names, either. Jay Maine. Bob Thompson. Robert Gold. s**t like that.
These salespeople tell you whatever it takes to get you to send money. Sure pal, you'll be a millionaire in less than a year. Send me two grand to get started. Or, no problem, you'll never have to do any work. The web site will make all the money for you. Let's get the courier over to pick up your buy-in.
Still hesitant? Then, try this. I guarantee that there is no possible way to lose on this deal. Here, let me give you a guy to call. He's doing the program, and making a ton of money. Call him up.
Naturally, the reference is just a paid liar. He has no web site.
Once you fall for the nonsense, they send a courier to pick up your money. They grab your money quick, before you can smarten up or change your mind. As soon as you get off the phone, ding dong, doorbell. Ace courier service here to pick up your $2000 check.
Any lie that gets you to buy. That's their motto.
Then, they get you into the program. Actually, you're chasing your tail. But, you don't know that. You're still dreaming of making millions.
It doesn't stop yet. Your salesman is going to hustle you out of more money. There a fee for this. And, you'll need some of that. Little by little they'll bleed you dry. Once your savings is gone, they'll wait until your next paycheck.
The sales crew gets a big cut of your money. It takes skill to convince a sucker to part with thousands of dollars. Not everyone can do it. Ten new suckers means ten grand a week. Not too bad.
Once your money's gone, they flush you down the toilet. Now, all that's left is to sell your name and number to a recovery room.
A couple of months later, you get a call. An investigator tells you he's taking the con down. He needs just $1000 to get all your money back. Many victims fall for this.
The investigator is another scam. He'll bleed more money out of you. He'll need another $600 to file the required forms in a court. Your money will all be back any day now. Just send the $600.
Basically, these scams all work the same way. Any lie that gets you to buy. It's simply amazing when you hear some of the crazy stories that people actually fall for.
There's a simple rule. If it sounds too good to be true, it is. But, most people never understand that.
Now that you learned the hard way, stay the hell away from the internet. There's no fortune there. Never was. Never will be.