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Retina-x Phone sheriff Phonesheriff Mobile spy MobilespyAvangate This software is a scam that will take your money and show you what you could see for free on icloud.com Internet
Phonesheriff is asoftware that purports to give you access to an iphone or Android phone and you can see all activity related to SMS logs, call logs, emails, pictures and locations on the target phone.
You can use this software to keep tabs on your kids, employees or whatever.
The point is, in order to use the software, you need to have the Appl ID and password of the iphone in order to get access to it (Good luck with that).
But this was my kid's phone so I have access to that information.
Then they tell you you need to enable icloud backup and set it to backup all the information on the iphone periodically. No problem with that either, actually kind of makes sense.
Then you download the software, install it on your PC and enter the Apple ID password into it.
What the software really does is go to icloud.com with that Apple ID and password and downloads whatever information it can grab from there.
The scam is twofold:
First, if you have the Apple ID and password and can setup the icloud backup, you don't need any software, you just go to icloud.com, enter the user/pass and you get access to the whole thing without paying a penny or installing any software.
Second, even that is done wrong by this software. when you use it, all logs are empty and the only thing you will see will be the phone's name. No information is retrieved. Maybe they will fix it in the future and will be able to properly download the information from icloud and show it to you in your computer but even then you could just go to icloud yourself and look at the information for free.
OH!! And one last thing. The LOCATION services it will report even if they fix it, will be the location of the phone when the backup is done, there is no running location log on the iphone to backup and download so it will probably always show the same place where the phone is connected to the charger and Wi-Fi.
Stay away from this thing. I'm writing this without anger or trying to get back at them, it's just that I can't see these people stealing money and remain silent.
When I chatted with the guy in tech support and called him on all the ridiculous instructions he was giving, and then told him I knew he was BS'ing me because what he was saying didn't make sense, they offered to refund my money but I just know that's not going to happen. poorer but wiser I guess.
This is the transcript of that conversation. DON'T BUY THIS THING.
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Carlos Hi, I received a message that my request xxxxxx had been updated but I can't look at it. |
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Carlos Hello? |
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Henry Sawyer Hi, |
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How may i help you ? |
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Carlos Hi, I received a message that my request xxxxx had been updated but I can't look at it. |
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Henry Sawyer May I have your order number and email id with which you made the purchase? |
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Carlos xxxxx@hotmail.com |
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Henry Sawyer Please give me moment |
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Carlos order reference number: xxxxxxxx |
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Henry Sawyer You need to uninstall and reinstall the software with the new updated link http://www.xxxxxxx.exe |
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Carlos on my pc? |
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Henry Sawyer Yes |
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Carlos Same thing, all logs are empty and the only information I can see is the iphone name and the date of the last backup under "Accounts" |
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Henry Sawyer Whats the last date and time showing for backup ? |
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Carlos 2014/03/23 19:18:08 |
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Henry Sawyer Take backup now and then check |
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Take backup and then for for 24 hours and check |
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Carlos Backup done. do I get out of the software and restart it? |
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Henry Sawyer Wait for 24 hours and then check |
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Carlos why? I can already see the backup on icloud! What's the reason to wait 24 hours? |
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Carlos But why would it take 24 hours if the backup is already there? Doesn't it load it when you start the software? That makes no sense.. What is it waiting for in those 24 hours? |
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Henry Sawyer No, it takes time to fetch logs form icloud. |
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Carlos And why wouldn't it take the backup made 3 days ago? |
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Henry Sawyer There was some issue that's the reason we have updated the new build |
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So request you to wait for next 24 hours and then let us know. |
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You can email me on xxxxxxx@retinax.com |
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Carlos Do I have to reinstall the software again in 24 hours? |
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Henry Sawyer No, as you have just reinstalled with the new build that i gave you |
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Carlos OK, so, you're telling me, that Retinax needs to fetch the logs from icloud and that takes 24 hours? How do you do that without my icloud user and password? The logical thing is that this software goes to icloud and downloads whatever information it can when I start it. |
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Henry Sawyer Yes. |
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Carlos yes what? |
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Henry Sawyer Yes when the Phone Sheriff Investigator gets start it downloads the logs, that why you need to login wit Apple ID and Password |
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Carlos OK, then I shouldn't have to wait 24 hours, it doesn't take 24 hours to download a 8MB log to my computer. so, why the 24 hours? The log is already there. |
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Henry Sawyer There are many tasks perfromed in backend So it takes time. |
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Carlos Look, I'm not a little old lady, I'm a systems engineer and what you're telling me doesn't make sense. Just tell me this thing is a scam and I won't even try to get my money back, I just don't want to waste any more time. There are no tasks performed in the backend, the only connection is between my computer and icloud. What backend? |
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Henry Sawyer Okay i am forwarding your request for refund and it will be processed in 72 hours |
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Carlos Thanks. |
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So it doesn't work? Will I receive a refund notification from you now that you forwarded the request? Or I have to wait 72 hours to see what happens? |
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Henry Sawyer It will be credited in your account |
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Carlos Thank you. |
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Carlos Hi, I received a message that my request 242521 had been updated but I can't look at it. |
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Carlos Hello? |
Hello?? |
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Anyone there? |
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Henry Sawyer Hi, |
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How may i help you ? |
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Carlos Hi, I received a message that my request 242521 had been updated but I can't look at it. |
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Henry Sawyer May I have your order number and email id with which you made the purchase? |
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Carlos carlosv72@hotmail.com |
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Henry Sawyer Please give me moment |
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Carlos order reference number: 25449991 |
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Henry Sawyer You need to uninstall and reinstall the software with the new updated link http://www.phonesheriff.com/dls/PhoneSheriffInvestigatorSetup.exe |
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Carlos on my pc? |
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Henry Sawyer Yes |
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Carlos Same thing, all logs are empty and the only information I can see is the iphone name and the date of the last backup under "Accounts" |
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Henry Sawyer Whats the last date and time showing for backup ? |
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Carlos 2014/03/23 19:18:08 |
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Henry Sawyer Take backup now and then check |
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Take backup and then for for 24 hours and check |
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Carlos BAckup done. do I get out of the software and restart it? |
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Henry Sawyer Wait for 24 hours and then check |
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Carlos why? I can already see the backup on icloud! |
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What's the reason to wait 24 hours? |
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Henry Sawyer On Phone Sheriff Investigator |
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Carlos But why would it take 24 hours if the backup is already there? |
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Doesn't it load it when you start the software? That makes no sens.. |
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What is it waiting for in those 24 hours? |
Henry Sawyer No, it takes time to fetch logs form icloud. |
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Carlos And why wouldn't it take the backup made 3 days ago? |
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Henry Sawyer There was some issue that's the reason we have updated the new build |
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So request you to wait for next 24 hours and then let us know. |
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You can email me on henry@retinax.com |
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Carlos Do I have to reinstall the software again in 24 hours? |
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Henry Sawyer No, as you have just reinstalled with the new build that i gave you |
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Carlos OK, so, you're telling me, that Retinax needs to fetch the logs from icloud and that takes 24 hours? How do you do that without my icloud user and password? The logical thing is that this software goes to icloud and downloads whatever information it can when I start it. |
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Henry Sawyer Yes. |
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Carlos yes what? |
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Henry Sawyer Yes when the Phone Sheriff Investigator gets start it downloads the logs, that why you need to login wit Apple ID and Password |
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Carlos OK, then I shouldn't have to wait 24 hours, it doesn't take 24 hours to download a 8MB log to my computer. |
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so, why the 24 hours? The log is already there. |
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Henry Sawyer There are many tasks perfromed in backend |
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Soit takes time. |
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Carlos Look, I'm not a little old lady, I'm a systems engineer and what you're telling me doesn't make sense. Just tell me this thing is a scam and I won't even try to get my money back, I just don't want to waste any more time. |
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There are no tasks performed in the backend, the only connection is between my computer and icloud. What backend? |
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Henry Sawyer Okay i am forwarding your request for refund and it will be processed in 72 hours |
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Carlos Thanks. |
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So it doesn't work? |
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Will I receive a refund notification from you now that you forwarded the request? Or I have to wait 72 hours to see what happens? |
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Henry Sawyer It will be credited in your account |
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Carlos Thank you. |