Print the value of index0
  • Report:  #469512

Complaint Review: Right Honda

Right Honda Nice facade, deceptive practices. Scottsdale Arizona

  • Reported By:
    Peoria Arizona
  • Submitted:
    Tue, July 14, 2009
  • Updated:
    Wed, January 19, 2011
  • Right Honda
    7875 E. Frank Lloyd Wright Blvd.
    Scottsdale, Arizona
    U.S.A.
  • Phone:
  • Category:

We went to Right Honda to test drive a minivan because we had just driven one from a private sale and wanted to compare it with another minivan exactly like it. The staff was courteous, and it so happened they had another minivan the same year as the one we had tested before, so we took it for a test drive. My wife loved the car since it was in very good shape and not abused like the one we saw before. When I asked for a price, they gave me a price 4000 above the very highest book value. We're not talking about a new car, we're talking about a 7 yr old car. 2002 Honda Odyssey, with 65K miles, they were asking $15800

I laughed at it and told them that price is insane, the normal price range for that year and mileage should be somewhere between $8000 and 12000.

I told them, let's go inside and look up the TMV value on Edmunds.com. So we did. They kept laughing at me, then we looked it up (except they selected "outstanding" for the condition of the car, which it was not. It was in very good condition, but there is a noticeable ding on the passenger door and paint scratched on the rear bumper which I didn't see at first because it was getting dark. Also when we got home, the glove compartment door fell out (there was a missing screw). I wouldn't call that "outstanding" otherwise the car was in excellent shape. The top range of the TMV value was right about 12000, so they said 12000.

I kept negociating with them, and asked them if they would sell it to me for 11500, which in my mind is still high, but since my wife really wanted the car and I was exhausted by that time, I was willing to go with that price. The salesman asked me if we have a deal at that price, I said yes. We shook hands (I should have known right there I was shaking hands with the devil. a handshake used to mean something, but apparently not anymore.)

So they did the paperwork, and by this time it was really late, I was extremely tired (I have a stress trigered condition that causes my hearing to get worse, so I know when I'm very stressed). I take full responsability for the fact that I just signed the papers right there without looking much at them. I knew I was getting screwed, but I had turned down my wife too many times, and she really wanted this car, so I went along with it. Later when we looked at the paperwork, the price of the car is listed as $11,999.
Hello?

I know some would say I got off cheap, it's a measly $500.
Well, to me it's a matter of honesty, and obviously they don't have it.
When that guy shook hands with me agreeing on $11,500, I expect that number to be in that box where the price of the car goes. Yes, there were a ton of fees, and extended warranty which we purchassed for an arm and a leg. In the end the total amount we would be paying (if we don't pay it off early, which we intend to) is around $18,000.

I can deal with taxes, fees, and crap they pile on. I know that's part of the business, and I was at a dissadvantage for not paying straight cash, But that little $500 they just HAD to add back into the price after we had agreed on a number, That is the straw that broke the camel's back. I'm a man of my word and try not to intentionally people, and lying is one thing I can't tolerate. It doesn't matter if they lie about $1 or $10000, I will never EVER again trust a person that has lied to me. Right Honda seems like a decent dealership, but they'll never get my business again because I don't trust them. That's all folks.

Aintdumb
Peoria, Arizona
U.S.A.

3 Updates & Rebuttals


Right Honda1

Scottsdale,
Arizona,
United States of America

RE: Report: Right Honda

#4UPDATE Employee

Wed, January 19, 2011

To whom it may concern:

We understand the frustration from buying a car. Unfortunately this complaint wasleft anonymos and I amunable to review this contractual agreement for comment.

Typically on any purchase, the contract will list the agreed price plus tax, title, licensing, registration, and documentation fee. Along with any items that were purchased in the finance office. This amount will show up as the total purchase price on the contract. If there is a down payment that amount will be subtracted from the total purchase price. If there was financing involved the contract will show the total pruchase price plus the interest charge.

What we believe may have happened is confusion over the documentation fee. Documentation fees are charged by every dealership in Arizona and range from $300 to $1,000. Back when that vehicle was purchase our documentation fee was just under $400 and could possibly explain the confusion in the total price.

Please contact me if there are any questions.

Kevin Quigley

Customer Service Manager

Right Honda, 480-778-2555, kquigley@righthonda.com


Flynrider

Phoeix,
Arizona,
U.S.A.

You got hosed.

#4

Mon, August 24, 2009

"I can deal with taxes, fees, and crap they pile on. I know that's part of the business"

  Only if you accept it.    I buy for the agreed purchase price, plus tax, title and license fees.   If the dealer wants to add any bogus fees and charges, he has to include that in his purchase price.   Personally, I don't care what they call the fees, if they are part the cost of doing business, then as far as I'm concerned, they're part of the price of the car. 

   It looks like you paid $6,500 over the agreed price.  That's why you got off cheap, with only $500 snuck into the purchase price.   They made so much in "extras", they didn't really need to pad the purchase price very much.

   I once had a dealer try to include a fee called "profit enhancement" on a contract.  I asked if they were serious.  They said most people don't even ask what any of the bogus fees are, they just pay them.  


Mike

las vegas,
Nevada,
U.S.A.

Read what you sign.

#4

Mon, August 24, 2009

First of all I take no part in the auto business, but I have had my UPS and DOWNS when dealing with the dealer.  However a 'handshake' 'high five' a 'wink' does not constitute a final sale contract with dealing with an auto dealer.  When you basically sign your contract; in other words 'sign your life away'  You need to go over anything that is printed on there.  If price was your biggest hangup, why on earth did you know when you are finalizing your paperwork that you didn't knotice that it jumped $500.  I am not defending the dealer here, but you are a victim of your own neglect.

Respond to this Report!