Robert Allen Institute Karl Noons. front man for Robert Allen the snake oil salesman San Diego California
hi readers;
I attended a Robert Allen seminar in VANCOUVER b.c on November 3 , 2008.
The presenter Karl Noons basically explained to our group how easy it was to find foreclosure deals by using unconventional methods .I signed up , paying my full tuition of $3770.
Karl Noons then emailed me a VERY conventional list of real estate resources, which were for the most part of little or no use as they were for the U.S. , they were pay sites( I just paid $3770 ) or they just had nothing at all to do with finding foreclosure deals.I brought this up with Karl who would not address my concerns, calling me negative and just not a hard worker.He refused any further dialogue with me. Hmm thats interesting because I made my first million in 5 years by being positive and working hard.
The contractual agreement outlined a payment policy of reimbursment within 10 days if the contract was cancelled.I cancelled on the 3rd day , after talking to TED in Florida on the phone.Ted proceeded to treat me like some sort of fool calling me"stupid and amazingly shortsighted". In general TED was just a complete waste of time talking to.He even informed me that any fax confirmation that I sent him "would go straight in the garbage can".
After a little arm twisting , I managed to get hold of one Karen Church who did acknowledge my contract cancellation.She did apologize for my being frustrated , but did not address at all the fact that one of her staff treated me like a piece of dirt for cancelling a contract that 1) I had every right to do and 2) I no longer felt good about after my dealings with Karl Noons.
Since then I have not received my reimbursement as per contract .Any individuals that I contact at the Robert Allen institute merely assure me "that they are looking into the matter."
Needless to say , I strongly advise anyone considering attending a Robert Allen seminar , to strongly consider otherwise as my strong perception and experience with these people indicate SCAM in capital letters.
Conduct your own research on the web and see for yourself.The things that this outfit has been called to account for are staggering in their breadth and scope.If even half of them are true, that is enough to realize that this is not an organization that you want to get involved with.
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Paul ignacik
Sirdar, British Columbia
Canada
3 Updates & Rebuttals
Steve B
Gig Harbor,Washington,
United States of America
Karl Noons Real Estate
#4UPDATE EX-employee responds
Thu, October 07, 2010
I ran across this posting about Karl Noons snake oil salesman and was personally shocked by it and it could not be further from the truth. I was mentored by Karl Noons personally in Hawaii in the area of real estate investing and I say this honestly he practices what he preaches. I have not become a gazillionair or extremely wealthy but using his techniques I have been able to supplement my income comfortably and I am able to pick and choose what real estate deals work for me.
Steven
United States of AmericaThanks Karl!
#4Consumer Comment
Tue, September 21, 2010
Dear Readers,
Karl Noons has taught me how to make a lot of money in real estate. I attended a weekend workshop in Houston almost a year ago given by Mr. Noons. It was not a Robert Allen seminar, I believe he no longer is a lecturer for that company. The workshop that I attended was hands on given by just Mr. Noons. We looked at about 20 distressed properties, all with equity in them, he taught the group how to break the numbers down, find financing and walked me through the transaction from beginning to end. He spent countless hours helping me. We even did a deal together on a commercial property that generated both of us some really good money. For people that complain about any type of educational investment or real estate seminars, you have to give it a try, don't look for the negatives on why it may not work. What about, what if it does work? I've been to alot of seminars in my time and when I finally learned not to take anything personal and put in the time and work, hey guess what, I started to make some really good money. Thanks Karl!
John Hunt
Austin,Texas,
U.S.A.
Positive Experience with Karl Noons and the Robert Allen Institute!
#4Consumer Suggestion
Tue, April 28, 2009
I attended an outstanding lecture given by Karl Noons for the Robert Allen Institute. Mr. Noons gave an excellent presentation. Very real, professional and to the point. It was after the presentation that really impressed me. His commitment to follow up with me before my training and help me jump start my investing before I went to class was beyond what I expected for such a busy man. It took effort and work on my behalf, but I followed exactly what I was taught at the training and what Karl Noons has taught me and I have made really good money, to the point where I am in the position to quit my 9-5 job and invest in real estate full time. Complaining and trying to find fault in people and situations,to me, is just an excuse and cop out for not wanting to work and try to succeed. Thanks to Karl Noons, his professionalism, help and the help of RAI I am free of financial worries, have the ability to give my wife and kids what they deserve, and let me tell you it feels great!