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Robert & Debbie Patten @ Patten & Associates,Inc. Accounting Services Debbie Patten @ Patten &associates ,accounting and taxs is a scam ,run she files your taxs ,no mony owed and if your aduited youll end up oweing $60,000.there company is a tax fraud ,after you owe shell run from you! stay away from them ! Woodbrige Virginia
this is a scam accounting firm ,they file your taxs take $9,000.00 from you ,and your return is sent and told no money owed ,if and when your audited , they will not be around if they do show up you mite end up oweing $60,000.00 or plus and then she will never be around to help you ,this company has a serious problem with tax service ,this is not legal and just service ,help !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! we are very concerned .someone needs to invest time and investicate her now !! i know this is a personal repayment to us for helping our daughter with a very needed divorce and child custody battle ,never mix business and personnal with this person, her son is a smuck and shes even worse ,they are down right evil ,!!!!!!!!Run
Diana
fburg, Virginia
U.S.A.
18 Updates & Rebuttals
jamisjockey
United States of AmericaNot sure what Diana's problem is
#19Consumer Comment
Thu, March 03, 2011
First, it's hard to even imagine that Diana is a living, breathing member of society with that level of horrible grammar and spelling. I find it hard to believe that someone who can't form a proper sentance or spell could be considered to be even credible.
Second, I am a 4 year customer of Patten & Associates. Not only have we gotten nothing but good treatment and advice, we have always been treated like family. We are small time clients, and every year I feel like the attention and service we've gotten has far outweighted the fees we've been charged.
Gwood777
Virginia Beach,Virginia,
U.S.A.
R-E-D-I-C-U-L-O-U-S!!!!!!
#19UPDATE EX-employee responds
Mon, August 11, 2008
The final word, as "whoever" in FBurg, or anyone else would say it is out of retaliation on a personal level. And most likely an "ex" in-law of some kind, as that goes anyone w/ any common sense can use that knowledge to further base an EDUCATED opinion. Debbie/Robert and Patten & Associates, and ANY of their other businesses stand on their own merit. Which is in my opinion of knowing them my entire life, impecible. Their only vices are to show kindness to people who may use personal knowledge to shove a knife in their back. That is Debbie's only vice, not wine, or even what other's may have a habit of using like the Word of God to twist to their own benefit. In the end no benefit is had. Ugly is ugly and God did not make it, the people w/ nothing better to do than slander a family that will not give them their every whim. So I trust that the final word will most likely come from God himself on this matter on Judgement Day when those slanderous, slothful, adulterous, Jezebel's and heathen's are judged for causing pain to get a laugh.
Most of you reading all of this are far too educated to not see through the mis-spellings and the mayberry like education pouring through the words of a twisted group of individuals.
Db
Woodbridge,Virginia,
U.S.A.
JUST SOME FINAL WORD FOR DEBBIE PATTEN! AND FOR ALL READERS TO HEAR THR REAL TRUTH!!!!
#19Consumer Comment
Fri, June 27, 2008
AS YOU CAN SEE MANY PEOPLE HAVE POSTED ABOUT PATTEN & ASSOCIATES NOT ONLY ON RIP-OFF BUT THERE IS A WHOLE BLOG / WEB SITE ABOUT THERE COMPANY. READ FURTHER ABOUT HER DAY CARE SHE OWNS AND OPERATES **********
Now for the truth to be told, I prefer the the FACTS: I think any well educated individual can see that if you go to PATTEN & ASSOCIATES in Woodbridge VA, Not only will you get RIPED OFF but you will have to see all your personal information and old home address posted on a open access web-site. FOR ALL READERS READ CAREFULLY:
FACT 1: Any person who openly posts someone's personal information for other than business or private use is against the law. Defamatory written messages that originate from an information content provider who posts such messages on a public forum website may file suit in Superior Court against an operator or provider who posted the information. Internet Laws strictly maintain and enforce the policy required pursuant to section 2 of P.L., c. (C.) (Pending before the Legislature as this bill), and may recover compensatory and punitive damages and the cost of the suit, including a reasonable attorney's fee, cost of investigation and litigation from such operator or provider.
Why is this bad? First, because people should not have the right to give out personal information to anyone on an internet forum.
FACT 2: A Bill signed into law prohibits using SLANDER to otherwise annoy, libel or harass anyone on the Internet. The bill also states it is against the law to provide ones personal or private information and the individual can be prosecuted in a court of law. Most often someone will make up something as (PATTEN & ASSOCIATES) to try to destroy there name or personal integrity out of jealousy, competitiveness or simply spite. AS (PATTEN & ASSOCIATES) DID.
FACT 3: Anonymity is a comforting thought to many people who have a tendency to abuse the internet. They think they can't be caught. They think their screen names will never be linked to their real names. These people should think again. All emails can be traced and all messages posted at message boards or forums have an IP Address that shows its origin. Cookies can be sent to the offending computer and thus having it marked for future investigation.
FACT 4: There are no facts to what they have posted as you can also see LIL DUDE is truly there Son Jesse Clark, who has been in and out of drug rehabilitation for many years. He has lost his family and personal possessions to this horrible drug.
Many people barge into a forum or message board without bothering to read the rules governing that particular website. It is just like visiting another country without any care for its laws, customs or traditions YOU CAN BE PROSUCTRED!!!!
FACT 5: Debbie Patton is is the mother of Jesse and owner of PATTEN & ASSOCIATES having also a drinking problem. I know her personally and she has been known to hide an abundant amount of wine bottles in the sink from her husband and drink around the children. This is the same woman taling about being a honest christain.
FACT 6: Cornerstone Christian Academy
12354 Dillingham Sq
Woodbridge, VA 22192
703-897-6262 ***
PARENTS BEWARE, DEBBIE PATTON OF PATTEN & ASSOCIATES, INC---- ASLO OWNS SERVRAL DAY CARES. Debbie Patton has a history of sexual abuse starting with her late husband from her first marriage who was molesting her daughter. Mrs. Patten stayed with her husband knowing this behavior was talking place. Not very comforting to someone talking there kid to her day care!! One of her Day-Care's in Woodbridge has been closed do to UN-cleanslyness and many complaints about the treatment of the children. You can find all this information on the internet.
**** Now, for the Patton's, you have offended and RIPPED-OFF many people and you will reap what you have sown. We (BELTRAN'S) wish you nothing but the best. It's sad to see such a dysfunctional family as yours to struggle with the same drug issues and divorcees, adultery, that your family has endured. As for PATTEN & ASSOCIATES (your company) we did not need to expose you or make lies about you, you have exposed your self. As you can see any reader will also see that if they go to your company not only will they get scammed but they now have to worry about their personal information being leaked as well as their old home address! (lol) So if you were truly intelligent you would not have not done such a thing. What you have shown was, anyone who reads this is how NON PROFESSIONAL PATTEN & ASSOCIATES really is.
Gwood777
Virginia Beach,Virginia,
U.S.A.
Diane in Fburg and Ex-Family member are phonies, and are all the owner/daughter/related to owner of Barefoot Floor's!
#19UPDATE Employee
Thu, June 26, 2008
I was an employee for Patten and Associates, Inc. and had the EXTREMELY tedious duty at one time of trying to get all the necessary info. from the people claiming (FALSELY!) to have been wronged by P & A, Inc. These people are succubuss on the air breathed by the average person going along their merry way in life. The PREY on people that DESPITE knowing these poeple's nasty, derfamitory character actually tried to help them AFTER, I repeat AFTER their daughter wreaked havoc on the Patten's lives, personally and professionally, cheating, manipulating, causing confusion, and just generally being slothful, YES slothful. Walking around self righteously with a JEZEBEL SPIRIT as they continue to do so now.
Deborah Patten and Bob Patten are some of the nicest people you could ever run across. They are charitable, (as with their EX-INLAWS AFTER THEIR DAUGHTER USED AND ABUSED THE FAMILY!!!!!) And a Christian CAN have a righteous anger. Jesus was not exactly happy when he was tuening tables over in the tabernacle was he "EX-Family" member. You may just be angry you can't squeeze out free daycare, or more money, so you choose to get on the only source you have to cause trouble (the internet, every nut can get on here!) and just take ugly to a new level as only YOUR family CHOOSES to do as they have always done. I am an ex amployee, I am a family friend that grew up with this family.
My name is Ginger Wood, see Jamie and Diane I don't hide. There has NEVER been any vulgarity besides what walks in at the front desk, in fact, it has been the only place of employment (where one works, Jamie) that had a peaceful flow to it. It is disgusting and revolting that this family that is now ex-in-laws and truly just angry that they are ex's, cannot MOVE ON..... I witnessed call after call on a daily basis come in harassing Debbie Patten from her "former -Family Member" with every insult you could imagine as Debbie sat calmly, spoke calmly and chose to hang up instead of HARASSING.
The interference from this "EX-Family-Member" stretched through-out right down to young children, causing more pain than most would imagine, knowing full well the ENTIRE time what they were doing was damaging to a young boy. Taking those long lunch breaks to fornicate with other's than your spouse as well as same sex, gee, that was left out....... I guess If I had done all that and then gotten "EX'ed" out of the family and your dirty laundry hung for all to see I might be writing (poorly, try spell check Diane and Jamie!), rediculous FALSE reports on decent people that have invested in their community and other's spiritually and otherwise. I would be jealous, vindictive, nasty and out for "pay-back's" too, "Diane in Fburg" and "Ex-Family Member".
You're an ex for a very good reason, all reasons YOU created. I hope those that read these report's take a few minutes to actually read between the lines and see what is really going on here. In fact, anyone with any scruples ( sorry for the big words Diane and "Ex-family-member) can see this is feloneous and unjust. I am usually not a nasty person, but there is the TRUTH, and then there's Diane in Fburg and Ex-Family-Member. ~Ginger Wood
X-family Memeber
Woodbridge,Virginia,
U.S.A.
I don't want to get in the Middle of this feud, but let the truth be known.
#19Consumer Comment
Thu, June 26, 2008
I don't want to get in the Middle of this feud, but let the truth be known! The Pattens are verryyyyy vindictive:
I am an x-Family member of the Pattens. I just want to say much of what Bf-Floors is saying is very true. I would give my e-mail and phone number to who ever wants to have verbal proof but the Patten's are a very vindictive family and I don't need my house or cars trashed. The whole family has a lot of issues and drama and they will lie, cheat you out of your money.
If what Debbie has to say is so true, and all this is childish, ask you self why does she keep posting and why does she keep speaking such bad things about BF-floors? If she is a Christian Woman like she tells everyone , and runs a respectful business, well than why would she put one of her x-clients information out their like that.
That family is pure evil and I would stay Far away from them as possible.
Db
Dale City,Virginia,
U.S.A.
Cornerstone Christian Academy: 12354 Dillingham Sq
#19UPDATE EX-employee responds
Thu, June 26, 2008
THIS IS ALSO OWNED AND OPERATED BY DEBBIE PATTON OF PATTEN & ASSOCYIATES, INC!!
*** PARENTS BEWARE, DEBBIE PATTON OF PATTEN & ASSOCIATES, INC---- ASLO OWNS SEVERAL DAY CARES. Debbie Patton has a history of sexual abuse starting with her late husband from her first marriage who was molesting her daughter. Mrs. Patten stayed with her husband knowing this behavior was talking place. Not very comforting to someone talking there kid to her day care!! One of her Day-Care's in Woodbridge has been closed do to UN-cleanslyness and many complaints about the treatment of the children. You can find all this information on the internet.
Dp In Va
Woodbridge,Virginia,
U.S.A.
DON'T LET THEM GET AWAY WITH IT LET THE TRUTH BE KNOWN!
#19REBUTTAL Individual responds
Wed, June 25, 2008
The complaints and complainers against Patten & Associates, Inc., Debbie Patten are not true.
These complaints are so childish and obviously false for the following reasons:
#1 Diana fburg, Virginia posted the original complaint on Rip Off on 11/10/2007
#2 Diana fburg, Virginia Update by Author Posted the 6/18/2008 complaint and represented herself as a friend of the family, however her user name is the same as Diana in Fredericksburg. Obviously the same person
If her comments were true, they would stand on their own merit. There would be no need for deception.
#1 Very Bad Exp Woodbridge, Virginia posted on 6/19/08
The first complaint posted about a Horrible Exp. HE states that HE has been living with his fianc for 3 years and their 2 boys and that our firm filed a tax return claiming the 2 boys as his own children.
#2 Very Bad Exp Woodbridge, VA posted 6/23/08
Claims to be an Employee Insider. This second complaint by the same person claims that now SHE is a single female and who had her own successful business!! I thought HE WAS A SINGLE MAN LIVING WITH HIS FIANC'E.
#3Very Bad Exp Woodbridge, Va posted on 6/23/2008 then makes up another RIP OFF Report on 6/23/2008 and represents them self as ANDREW CLARK who happens to be my 14-year-old Grandson. The Rip Off complaint by the same Author VERY BAD EXP Woodbridge, Virginia now states that HE?SHE? met me at church through my son.
Again, Obviously the same person posing as three different people (very disturbing)
You only have to take a look at the source of the comments to figure out that the same two people are pretending to be former clients of Patten & Associates, Inc.
Again, if the complaints were true, they would stand on their own merit. There would be no need for deception.
Regarding the first comment from Very Bad Exp, No one in our database matches this profile. I researched back to 2004. No phone calls were ever received from anyone with this profile from 2004 till current. We have never used HSBC for our Rapid Refund. It is obvious that all the negative comments posted about our company have been from Diana Beltran aka Diana fburg, Virginia and her daughter Jamie Beltran Hansen aka Very Bad Exp Woodbridge, Virginia.
This is a personal vendetta that is quite irrational and quite disturbing.
To Rebecca in Fredericksburg and Anonymous in Fredericksburg:
Diana Beltran was arrested on June 11, 2008 for a Felony. Details can be obtained at the Stafford County Courthouse.
"For the rest of the JILTED Barefoot costumers reading this", Virginia has a Construction Fraud section in their code. You may be able to seek remedy under this code
New Address for Barefoot Floors:
27 Wacama Trail
Spotsylvania, Virginia 22553
Construction Fraud is governed by Code of Virginia Section 18.2-200.1. This crime occurs when someone obtains an advance of monies for the promise to perform construction work or repair and:
1) Has FRAUDULENT INTENT not to perform the work;
2) Fails to substantially make good on the promised work; and
3) Fails to return the advance or perform the work within fifteen days of a request to do so sent by Certified Mail, Return Receipt Requested. See sample Certified Letter.
Additionally, the Commonwealth's Attorney's Office requires 1) a written contract, 2) a specified start and finish date, and 3) proof of payment, either a cash receipt, original canceled check, or signed credit card receipt.
You may be barred from criminal prosecution if some work was performed but has yet to be completed. Your estimation of how long it should take to perform the work is not relevant for criminal prosecution. Additionally, if a portion of the advance was used to purchase materials and those materials have been delivered to the job site, criminal prosecution may not be possible.
The area of law concerning Construction Fraud can be very confusing. Should you have questions regarding your specific case, please contact a detective with the Financial Crimes Section at 703-246-7800.
New Address for Barefoot Floors:
27 Wacama Trail
Spotsylvania, Virginia 22553
The Original Barefoot Floors of America Inc., doing business as Barefoot Floors and The Original Barefoot Floors and Mattress
316 Whiteoak Rd., Suite 105, Fredericksburg, Va. 22405 (OLD ADDRESS)
NEW ADDRESS FOR BAREFOOT FLOORS:
27 WACAMA TRAIL SPOTSYLVANIA VA 22553
Type of filing: Chapter 7 liquidation
Case number: 08-13417-SSM
Date filed: June 13
Attorney: Tommy Andrews Jr., 703-838-9004
Assets: $0 to $50,000
Liabilities: $1,000,001 to $10 million
Largest unsecured creditor: Not disclosed
Dp In Va
Woodbridge,Virginia,
U.S.A.
DON'T LET THEM GET AWAY WITH IT LET THE TRUTH BE KNOWN!
#19REBUTTAL Individual responds
Wed, June 25, 2008
The complaints and complainers against Patten & Associates, Inc., Debbie Patten are not true.
These complaints are so childish and obviously false for the following reasons:
#1 Diana fburg, Virginia posted the original complaint on Rip Off on 11/10/2007
#2 Diana fburg, Virginia Update by Author Posted the 6/18/2008 complaint and represented herself as a friend of the family, however her user name is the same as Diana in Fredericksburg. Obviously the same person
If her comments were true, they would stand on their own merit. There would be no need for deception.
#1 Very Bad Exp Woodbridge, Virginia posted on 6/19/08
The first complaint posted about a Horrible Exp. HE states that HE has been living with his fianc for 3 years and their 2 boys and that our firm filed a tax return claiming the 2 boys as his own children.
#2 Very Bad Exp Woodbridge, VA posted 6/23/08
Claims to be an Employee Insider. This second complaint by the same person claims that now SHE is a single female and who had her own successful business!! I thought HE WAS A SINGLE MAN LIVING WITH HIS FIANC'E.
#3Very Bad Exp Woodbridge, Va posted on 6/23/2008 then makes up another RIP OFF Report on 6/23/2008 and represents them self as ANDREW CLARK who happens to be my 14-year-old Grandson. The Rip Off complaint by the same Author VERY BAD EXP Woodbridge, Virginia now states that HE?SHE? met me at church through my son.
Again, Obviously the same person posing as three different people (very disturbing)
You only have to take a look at the source of the comments to figure out that the same two people are pretending to be former clients of Patten & Associates, Inc.
Again, if the complaints were true, they would stand on their own merit. There would be no need for deception.
Regarding the first comment from Very Bad Exp, No one in our database matches this profile. I researched back to 2004. No phone calls were ever received from anyone with this profile from 2004 till current. We have never used HSBC for our Rapid Refund. It is obvious that all the negative comments posted about our company have been from Diana Beltran aka Diana fburg, Virginia and her daughter Jamie Beltran Hansen aka Very Bad Exp Woodbridge, Virginia.
This is a personal vendetta that is quite irrational and quite disturbing.
To Rebecca in Fredericksburg and Anonymous in Fredericksburg:
Diana Beltran was arrested on June 11, 2008 for a Felony. Details can be obtained at the Stafford County Courthouse.
"For the rest of the JILTED Barefoot costumers reading this", Virginia has a Construction Fraud section in their code. You may be able to seek remedy under this code
New Address for Barefoot Floors:
27 Wacama Trail
Spotsylvania, Virginia 22553
Construction Fraud is governed by Code of Virginia Section 18.2-200.1. This crime occurs when someone obtains an advance of monies for the promise to perform construction work or repair and:
1) Has FRAUDULENT INTENT not to perform the work;
2) Fails to substantially make good on the promised work; and
3) Fails to return the advance or perform the work within fifteen days of a request to do so sent by Certified Mail, Return Receipt Requested. See sample Certified Letter.
Additionally, the Commonwealth's Attorney's Office requires 1) a written contract, 2) a specified start and finish date, and 3) proof of payment, either a cash receipt, original canceled check, or signed credit card receipt.
You may be barred from criminal prosecution if some work was performed but has yet to be completed. Your estimation of how long it should take to perform the work is not relevant for criminal prosecution. Additionally, if a portion of the advance was used to purchase materials and those materials have been delivered to the job site, criminal prosecution may not be possible.
The area of law concerning Construction Fraud can be very confusing. Should you have questions regarding your specific case, please contact a detective with the Financial Crimes Section at 703-246-7800.
New Address for Barefoot Floors:
27 Wacama Trail
Spotsylvania, Virginia 22553
The Original Barefoot Floors of America Inc., doing business as Barefoot Floors and The Original Barefoot Floors and Mattress
316 Whiteoak Rd., Suite 105, Fredericksburg, Va. 22405 (OLD ADDRESS)
NEW ADDRESS FOR BAREFOOT FLOORS:
27 WACAMA TRAIL SPOTSYLVANIA VA 22553
Type of filing: Chapter 7 liquidation
Case number: 08-13417-SSM
Date filed: June 13
Attorney: Tommy Andrews Jr., 703-838-9004
Assets: $0 to $50,000
Liabilities: $1,000,001 to $10 million
Largest unsecured creditor: Not disclosed
Dp In Va
Woodbridge,Virginia,
U.S.A.
DON'T LET THEM GET AWAY WITH IT LET THE TRUTH BE KNOWN!
#19REBUTTAL Individual responds
Wed, June 25, 2008
The complaints and complainers against Patten & Associates, Inc., Debbie Patten are not true.
These complaints are so childish and obviously false for the following reasons:
#1 Diana fburg, Virginia posted the original complaint on Rip Off on 11/10/2007
#2 Diana fburg, Virginia Update by Author Posted the 6/18/2008 complaint and represented herself as a friend of the family, however her user name is the same as Diana in Fredericksburg. Obviously the same person
If her comments were true, they would stand on their own merit. There would be no need for deception.
#1 Very Bad Exp Woodbridge, Virginia posted on 6/19/08
The first complaint posted about a Horrible Exp. HE states that HE has been living with his fianc for 3 years and their 2 boys and that our firm filed a tax return claiming the 2 boys as his own children.
#2 Very Bad Exp Woodbridge, VA posted 6/23/08
Claims to be an Employee Insider. This second complaint by the same person claims that now SHE is a single female and who had her own successful business!! I thought HE WAS A SINGLE MAN LIVING WITH HIS FIANC'E.
#3Very Bad Exp Woodbridge, Va posted on 6/23/2008 then makes up another RIP OFF Report on 6/23/2008 and represents them self as ANDREW CLARK who happens to be my 14-year-old Grandson. The Rip Off complaint by the same Author VERY BAD EXP Woodbridge, Virginia now states that HE?SHE? met me at church through my son.
Again, Obviously the same person posing as three different people (very disturbing)
You only have to take a look at the source of the comments to figure out that the same two people are pretending to be former clients of Patten & Associates, Inc.
Again, if the complaints were true, they would stand on their own merit. There would be no need for deception.
Regarding the first comment from Very Bad Exp, No one in our database matches this profile. I researched back to 2004. No phone calls were ever received from anyone with this profile from 2004 till current. We have never used HSBC for our Rapid Refund. It is obvious that all the negative comments posted about our company have been from Diana Beltran aka Diana fburg, Virginia and her daughter Jamie Beltran Hansen aka Very Bad Exp Woodbridge, Virginia.
This is a personal vendetta that is quite irrational and quite disturbing.
To Rebecca in Fredericksburg and Anonymous in Fredericksburg:
Diana Beltran was arrested on June 11, 2008 for a Felony. Details can be obtained at the Stafford County Courthouse.
"For the rest of the JILTED Barefoot costumers reading this", Virginia has a Construction Fraud section in their code. You may be able to seek remedy under this code
New Address for Barefoot Floors:
27 Wacama Trail
Spotsylvania, Virginia 22553
Construction Fraud is governed by Code of Virginia Section 18.2-200.1. This crime occurs when someone obtains an advance of monies for the promise to perform construction work or repair and:
1) Has FRAUDULENT INTENT not to perform the work;
2) Fails to substantially make good on the promised work; and
3) Fails to return the advance or perform the work within fifteen days of a request to do so sent by Certified Mail, Return Receipt Requested. See sample Certified Letter.
Additionally, the Commonwealth's Attorney's Office requires 1) a written contract, 2) a specified start and finish date, and 3) proof of payment, either a cash receipt, original canceled check, or signed credit card receipt.
You may be barred from criminal prosecution if some work was performed but has yet to be completed. Your estimation of how long it should take to perform the work is not relevant for criminal prosecution. Additionally, if a portion of the advance was used to purchase materials and those materials have been delivered to the job site, criminal prosecution may not be possible.
The area of law concerning Construction Fraud can be very confusing. Should you have questions regarding your specific case, please contact a detective with the Financial Crimes Section at 703-246-7800.
New Address for Barefoot Floors:
27 Wacama Trail
Spotsylvania, Virginia 22553
The Original Barefoot Floors of America Inc., doing business as Barefoot Floors and The Original Barefoot Floors and Mattress
316 Whiteoak Rd., Suite 105, Fredericksburg, Va. 22405 (OLD ADDRESS)
NEW ADDRESS FOR BAREFOOT FLOORS:
27 WACAMA TRAIL SPOTSYLVANIA VA 22553
Type of filing: Chapter 7 liquidation
Case number: 08-13417-SSM
Date filed: June 13
Attorney: Tommy Andrews Jr., 703-838-9004
Assets: $0 to $50,000
Liabilities: $1,000,001 to $10 million
Largest unsecured creditor: Not disclosed
Dp In Va
Woodbridge,Virginia,
U.S.A.
DON'T LET THEM GET AWAY WITH IT LET THE TRUTH BE KNOWN!
#19REBUTTAL Individual responds
Wed, June 25, 2008
The complaints and complainers against Patten & Associates, Inc., Debbie Patten are not true.
These complaints are so childish and obviously false for the following reasons:
#1 Diana fburg, Virginia posted the original complaint on Rip Off on 11/10/2007
#2 Diana fburg, Virginia Update by Author Posted the 6/18/2008 complaint and represented herself as a friend of the family, however her user name is the same as Diana in Fredericksburg. Obviously the same person
If her comments were true, they would stand on their own merit. There would be no need for deception.
#1 Very Bad Exp Woodbridge, Virginia posted on 6/19/08
The first complaint posted about a Horrible Exp. HE states that HE has been living with his fianc for 3 years and their 2 boys and that our firm filed a tax return claiming the 2 boys as his own children.
#2 Very Bad Exp Woodbridge, VA posted 6/23/08
Claims to be an Employee Insider. This second complaint by the same person claims that now SHE is a single female and who had her own successful business!! I thought HE WAS A SINGLE MAN LIVING WITH HIS FIANC'E.
#3Very Bad Exp Woodbridge, Va posted on 6/23/2008 then makes up another RIP OFF Report on 6/23/2008 and represents them self as ANDREW CLARK who happens to be my 14-year-old Grandson. The Rip Off complaint by the same Author VERY BAD EXP Woodbridge, Virginia now states that HE?SHE? met me at church through my son.
Again, Obviously the same person posing as three different people (very disturbing)
You only have to take a look at the source of the comments to figure out that the same two people are pretending to be former clients of Patten & Associates, Inc.
Again, if the complaints were true, they would stand on their own merit. There would be no need for deception.
Regarding the first comment from Very Bad Exp, No one in our database matches this profile. I researched back to 2004. No phone calls were ever received from anyone with this profile from 2004 till current. We have never used HSBC for our Rapid Refund. It is obvious that all the negative comments posted about our company have been from Diana Beltran aka Diana fburg, Virginia and her daughter Jamie Beltran Hansen aka Very Bad Exp Woodbridge, Virginia.
This is a personal vendetta that is quite irrational and quite disturbing.
To Rebecca in Fredericksburg and Anonymous in Fredericksburg:
Diana Beltran was arrested on June 11, 2008 for a Felony. Details can be obtained at the Stafford County Courthouse.
"For the rest of the JILTED Barefoot costumers reading this", Virginia has a Construction Fraud section in their code. You may be able to seek remedy under this code
New Address for Barefoot Floors:
27 Wacama Trail
Spotsylvania, Virginia 22553
Construction Fraud is governed by Code of Virginia Section 18.2-200.1. This crime occurs when someone obtains an advance of monies for the promise to perform construction work or repair and:
1) Has FRAUDULENT INTENT not to perform the work;
2) Fails to substantially make good on the promised work; and
3) Fails to return the advance or perform the work within fifteen days of a request to do so sent by Certified Mail, Return Receipt Requested. See sample Certified Letter.
Additionally, the Commonwealth's Attorney's Office requires 1) a written contract, 2) a specified start and finish date, and 3) proof of payment, either a cash receipt, original canceled check, or signed credit card receipt.
You may be barred from criminal prosecution if some work was performed but has yet to be completed. Your estimation of how long it should take to perform the work is not relevant for criminal prosecution. Additionally, if a portion of the advance was used to purchase materials and those materials have been delivered to the job site, criminal prosecution may not be possible.
The area of law concerning Construction Fraud can be very confusing. Should you have questions regarding your specific case, please contact a detective with the Financial Crimes Section at 703-246-7800.
New Address for Barefoot Floors:
27 Wacama Trail
Spotsylvania, Virginia 22553
The Original Barefoot Floors of America Inc., doing business as Barefoot Floors and The Original Barefoot Floors and Mattress
316 Whiteoak Rd., Suite 105, Fredericksburg, Va. 22405 (OLD ADDRESS)
NEW ADDRESS FOR BAREFOOT FLOORS:
27 WACAMA TRAIL SPOTSYLVANIA VA 22553
Type of filing: Chapter 7 liquidation
Case number: 08-13417-SSM
Date filed: June 13
Attorney: Tommy Andrews Jr., 703-838-9004
Assets: $0 to $50,000
Liabilities: $1,000,001 to $10 million
Largest unsecured creditor: Not disclosed
Very Bad Exp.
Woodbridge,Virginia,
U.S.A.
Patton & Associates , woodbridge VA : BEWARE !!
#19UPDATE Employee
Mon, June 23, 2008
Patton & Associates : BEWARE OF THIS COMPANY ..........
I would first like to take the time to express that this is not an attempt to slander anyone but certainly expose Patton & Associates for there misleading information and detestable service. To start off, this is a small tax accounting company that is located at 13526 Minnieville Rd in Woodbridge, VA 22192. They are a tax service company that advertises They can provide you with Irs Intervention & Negotiation. Here comes the real KICKER .... Their company slogan is "What You Don't Know...Could Be Costing You $, We Make A World of Difference"! Just let me say....WOW, this saying has some truth but in a negative way. What I know now about Patton & Associates did very much so end up costing me $$$$. It not only costed me money to the IRS but money to my debt collectors and merly put me bankrupt.
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I am a single female who has had my own pretty successful business for about 9 years now. I use to go to Jackson Hewitt to file my taxes. Not the best of place but its honest and I don't have to lay my head at night wondering if I am going to get audited. I first heard about Patton & Associates from the company's family member, a gentleman by the name Jesse. He referred me to his mother Debbie Patton, hence the name "Patton & Associates", who could really do a better job than were I was going. He was a very convincing young man who claimed he was a Christan and so were his family members, basically reassuring me I would be in good hands. Gullible i took his advice and went in to see a Bob and Debbie -----N. At first they seemed very kind they spoke about the bible and church and came across as very trustworthy people. They also seem to know there way around the IRS and how to get you in good shape. So convinced I was on my way to not owing any taxes this year , being 2005, I allowed them to proceed.
The first few months seemed to be good she showed me progress and some debt that i thought i had to pay she amended. You know the saying If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is", well in this case it was! By the end of the year I did not owe anything to Uncle Sam, actually I got a nice little return. I was so happy, I mean its not like I was that bad off before but now I thought I was clear of debt thanks to Patton & Associates.
Boy was I wrong, I continued to allow her to do my taxes and I am now being audited by the IRS. This has been a horrible learning experience for me and i do not wish this upon no one. Patton & Associates are very deceitful people who use "GOD" as a levy to get peoples business. They are a bunch of bigots who never returned my calls and gave me the run around when I was trying to get this cleaned up. They lost alot of important documentation i needed. I now have a true professional working on my taxes and hopefully can get me out this "TAX HELL" the ------ns put me in. Some advice for every reader out there, interview potential tax preparers, Ask them what credentials or licenses they have and don't be afraid to ask for references. You don't want to leave your taxes to somebody that took a class online and all of sudden [he or she] is a tax expert doing taxes out of [their] house. Ask your accountant what records she keeps. If you're lucky she will keep copies of all of your statements in an orderly fashion. If your accountant isn't doing it for you, make sure your records are in order. Ideally your statements should be filed together by year either in a folder or a binder. This will save a tremendous amount of time if you get the audit call.
Word of advice for Patton & Associates go get a real certification and education then go Go online to the IRS Website (www.irs.gov) and do some research!!!!!!!!!!!
Diana
Fburg,Virginia,
U.S.A.
lil dude is jesse clark and all statments are false - lawyers need to be called today i want the rip off report to look into these false statements an
#19Author of original report
Mon, June 23, 2008
rip off release lil dudes address to our lawyers for patten and assocates posted false info. and personnal tax info as part of your terms this is fraud contact our lawyers with there info now and hold them to your terms , hope lil dude and his mother know false info is fraud in the court of law maybe rip off report needs to check there terms on this report and stop the abuse now !
Very Bad Exp.
Woodbridge,Virginia,
U.S.A.
HORRIBLE EXP. ****Patten & Associates- Woodbridge , VA
#19Consumer Suggestion
Thu, June 19, 2008
I went to Patten & Associates, and had a lady by the name of Debbie who filed my taxes as I didn't want to make any mistakes and mess something up. I should have known from walking in the door what kind of place I was getting my self into. I waited in the lobby for about 30-45 min. before I was even helped. While the receptionist chatted on the phone using vulgar language. WOW, Wrong idea! I live with my Fiance for about 3 years now and her 2 sons. My Fiance doesn't work and Debbie said it was ok for me to claim them as the father of the boys. Which I did not knowing at the time and found out that I dont have any legal right to claim them on my taxes. So, with Debbie reassuring me it was ok I let her do it, and now I have HSBC calling on average of 3 times a day, 7 days a week because I did rapid refund and the IRS denied the claim.
I now owe over $2,800 to HSBC and $3400 to IRS. I was laid off in March and have been only working 2 weeks at my new job making almost 3 dollars less an hour and driving 30 miles round trip, which is about 28 more miles than my old job. I have 3 kids of my own that I have joint custody of and pay child support for. There is no way I am going to be able to pay all this money back. I am screwed because she failed to follow the tax laws. If I had the money to hire a lawyer, I WOULD! I do not know this Barefoot floors but I sure wish I did before I went to Patten & Associates!!!! It seems they really got Ripped Off by these people. Tax Service Businesses should not be allowed to get away with this kind of suff it can really be detrimental to someones credit and life. I have done some research on this Patten & Associates--- and found they have a list of complaints by The Better Business Bureau http://welcome.bbb.org/ . I
VERY SAD PERSON
Woodbridge, Virginia
U.S.A.
Lil Dude
Dale City,Virginia,
U.S.A.
WOW bearfoot floors is up to no good again
#19Consumer Comment
Thu, June 19, 2008
WOW where do i even start? I worked for bearfoot floors for years.the owners of BF floors are quintian an dina beltran.these 2 have ripped off every body they come in contact with they use to tell me to lie for them to ther custermers.i watced them sell people top doller carpet wood and other flooring but the custermers never got what they paid for.if you bought a 40,oz carpet you would only get a 20 oz carpet.most custermers never new the differance.
Hey dont take my word for it see for your self,if you bought any any flooring from them,please have a independent flooring inspector come to your home and have him compair your floor to the floor you paid for.You will find that most likley the product you have dosent even come close to what you paid for.the reason i know this is becouse as i stated above i worked for them for years then i saw what they were doing to people and i confronted them and asked them why are you ripping people off,these people work hard for their money.i was told to mind my own bussness,and that i should go F--- myself,then i quit.
and guess what they ripped me off,i never got my money they owed me witch is about 5000.00 dollers.i know ill never get my money from them,but thats ok it looks like they need it more then i do.I would like to say this to you bearfoot floors,the reason your bankrupt and the reason your lossing everything has nothing to do with patten and assoates.it is becouse you tried to build a bussness on lies, theft , deceit, and flat out bad morals.you are now reaping all that you have sowed.and you will keep reaping this whirel wind untill you repent.so why dont you stop blaming other people for your incredible embarising failure as a bussnrss owner and call all your custermers and appologize for ripping them off,pay every body back that you owe and move on with your life.I say to you this that untill you do you will keep losing untill you have nothing left to lose THEN what?
P.S. i also ues patten and asscoates to do my personal and bussness taxes and i am very happy with their service.i have refered all of my freinds to them and all of them are very happy and one more thing if anybody resding this keeps writing bad checks and getting aressted for it and you know who you are i would just like to say this.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA YOU SHMUCK!!!!
Diana
Fburg,Virginia,
U.S.A.
debbie patten keeps on useing her mouth to drum evil !!!!!!!!! lies
#19Author of original report
Wed, June 18, 2008
i am a family friend and former customer i know this family,they did all they could to do good businees ,after tax accountants like debbie patten and so called tax firm ? lol- i know it was her sons crack habbits that ran his marriage inthe ground along with stealing from his family memebers ! i could go on ,on , however to the customer ,you write had you known, they were having problems and a dead tag ticket charge ,and a check on the company that didnot clear correctly you would not have bought from them thats a shame ,with todays world and businesses im sure there good nature and prices made you happy > i find ,business big corp !everyday going under ,this small family business served fredricksburd for almost 5 years and gave to the familys and churches and now that they have had a death in the family and have gone bankrupt you people call yourselfs christians ,those people are victims of customers theft and bad-tax accountants !
THINK - lGOD SAYS JUDGE NOT-for- AS YOU BE JUDGED ! this world is tuff and that family went bankrupt trying to serve there customers ,god bless you all!mrs patten needs to let go of some junk and let GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!! I DID MY OWN RESEARCH AND FOUND THE LANDLORD WAS HAVING PROBLEMS OF HIS OWN WITH THAT SHOPPING CENTER I ASKED THE FAST MART AND THE HAIR PLACE ,I ALSO CHECKED WITH SOME OF THE RECORDS AND FOUND BAREFOOT HAD A VERY GOOD RECORD FOR A LONG TIME ! HOWEVER MAYBE I SHOULD POST JESSE CLARKS RECORD AND DEBBIE PATTENS ! ALONG WITH ALL HER CHILDREN HAVE SOME CRIMMMAL RECORD -CHECK IT OUT! WHERES FORGIVENESS IN YOU PEOPLE ? FORGIVE OUR TRESPASSES AS WE SHOULD FORGIVE OUR TRESPASSERS !!!!!!! READ PEOPLE AND TRY TO MAKE IT A BETTER WORLD ! CLOSING A BUSINESS AND FILING BANK RUPSTY IS A VERY HARD ON A FAMILY I HOPE GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU !
Rebecca
Fredericksburg,Virginia,
U.S.A.
Barefoot Floors owner Diana is a ripoff herself
#19Consumer Comment
Fri, June 13, 2008
I feel sorry that Patten and Assoc had to deal with Diana.
I too put a downpayment on carpet to be installed with her company Barefoot Floors and I too was ripped off. My installation date was changed from May 12 to June 13. I tried numerous times to contact her and confirm my delivery date to no avail.
I guess pushing my install date back gave her just enough time to receive the deposit from my credit card before she decided to haul frieght with mine and everyone else's money!
If anyone else has this issue and is interested in taking action please email me
Anonymous
Fredericksburg,Virginia,
U.S.A.
Hopefully some consolation to Patten & Associates
#19Consumer Comment
Tue, June 10, 2008
If Patten & Associates was going get their due money from this individual, it probably just got a lot more difficult. Our family went by the store owned by this individual and her husband (http://richmond.bbb.org/WWWRoot/Report.aspx?site=85&bbb=0603&firm=21014864) to see why they hadn't shown up to deliver the services we had placed a downpayment on.
When we got there the landlord of the building said he hadn't seen them in a week. When you look in the store you could see that the paperwork and computers were gone. None of the calls left on the answering machine were ever returned. The landlord indicated that they had left owing money to him as well.
I wish I had seen these facts posted by Patten & Associates before agreeing to do anything with Barefoot Floors.
I also wish I had checked out the Stafford County Court Case search engine (http://epwsgdp1.courts.state.va.us/gdcourts/caseSearch.do?index=index) which would have showed previous cases against both of them (GC07018025-00, GT07009496-00, GT07009497-00) The misc vehicle charges against the husband probably wouldn't have alerted me, but the larceny check writing one initiated, and later dropped against her, probably would have had me running out of there.
It's sad that you can't trust people. I had a good recommendation from a neighbor and heard their flooring ads on WPER Christian Radio. It's also sad that this individual could throw the comments up here that she did against a company that did everything they could to help her.
Dp In Va
Woodbridge,Virginia,
U.S.A.
Patten & Associates, Inc. NO MERIT TO COMPLAINT!!!!! Diana in Frdbg did the RIP-OFF
#19REBUTTAL Individual responds
Wed, February 13, 2008
Diana in frdbg is mistaken as to who is responsible for the outcome of HER audit.
Diana in frdbg failed to show up for a scheduled IRS audit in 2006. She also failed to produce all documents to back up her position after the appeals process was won on her behalf by our firm. I believe the attached documents will clarify paid services rendered on behalf of the claiment.
Claiment (Diana in frdbg) still owes Patten & Associates $4737.50 for services rendered at appeals and auditing.
My son is not a smuck (schmuck is a noun that literally means a p***s or head of a p***s) It was Diana in Frdbg daughter that sliced up my graddaughters favorite coat in front of her and threw it into my driveway. My son tried to excercie his visitation rights at Christmas as was denied legal access to his daughter. He filed a show cause to excerise his legal rights per a court order. My son was the one who filed an uncontested divorce because Diana in Frdbg's daughter was committing audultry and was pregnant with another man's child.
I don't believe I am worse than a p***s head (schmuck). I do an excellent job with tax problems and get things resolved quickly when I have cooperation. I have an awesome relationship with Jesus Christ and I don't believe anyone, other than Diana in Frdbg (and her family) would believe I am evil.
I am sure there are doctors in Fredericksburg who can assist Diana in Frdbg with the proper medication for parinoid delusions.
Patten & Associates, Inc.
13526 Minnieville Road
Woodbridge, VA 22192
(703) 670-3532
BBB of Metropolitan Washington DC
1411 K St. NW, 10th Floor
Washington, DC 20005
Re: Mr. & Mrs. Quintin -------
Case #----------
December 18, 2007
To Derrick Gregory, Trade Practice Consultant,
Our firm received a letter dated December 11, 2007 asking our position regarding a letter received by your organization on November 11, 2007.
Let me begin by stating that this Firm was engaged by the ----'s in 2001 to intervene on their behalf regarding tax liability dating back to the early 1990's. We identified several areas that needed amending and as a result of the amended returns, tax liabilities were lowered. Two of the years amended at that time were considered for audit by Internal Revenue Service (2001, 2002). The audit was preformed by this firm at Internal Revenue Office in Fairfax, Virginia to the benefit of the Beltran's. In other words, we won our position at the audit. At the time we represented the ---------'s at the audit, we had all their information, compiled and in binders for the 2 years. After winning the audits, they still owed over $100,000.00 which was negotiated by our firm in the offer and compromise program. Over $100,000.00 was accepted by Internal Revenue Service to be waved on the behalf of the --------'s as a result of our work. The man-hours to accomplish the tax forgiveness along with the amended returns from the 1990's and 2 audits were tremendous. We put in excess of 80 hours on the audit and Offer. Our hourly fee was $90.00 per hour that was within the range of charges for work of this nature. We charged the -----'s
$6,120.00 for the Offer and Compromise (68 hours)
$650.00 to represent them at the audit for 1998, 1999.
$375 to amend 1999,
$300 to file 2000 Business Tax Return (2 Businesses).
$450.00 for 2002 Business return (2 Businesses). We amended 2001 and 2002 so the -----'s could apply for a loan to purchase their home. We charged $360.00 for that work. Total Charges for tax work performed $8590.00. All tax liability was taken care of, all audits won by our firm and effective Offer and Compromise filled and accepted. Through the amends, offer and compromise and audits, we saved the -----'s in excess of $125,000.00 in tax liability. The -------'s payments ments to our firm were as follows:
12/30/2002 Money order for $50.00
04/28/2003 Money order for $65.00
12/23/2003 Check for $5000.00
8/25/2002 - Bartered $900.00
Total Amount Paid by the ------'s $6,015.00
(See attached invoices and payment documentation)
The ------'s also engaged our firm for accounting services in 2005. The total amount billed for accounting services from October 2004 through May 2005 was $1,584.00. In May of 2005, we terminated our professional relationship due to the abusive and vulgar language by Mrs. ---- to our staff accountants.
We received $1,584.00 from the ------'s for accounting services rendered for Barefoot Floors, a Virginia Corporation owned by the -----'s. We mailed back $400.00 and all of their documents, receipts, etc. (both Personal and Business).
The monies described were the only monies ever received by the ------'s or Barefoot Floors (their company).
None of the money received was for the 2003 or 2004 audit. No money has been received for the 2003, 2004 audit of which a considerable amount of time was spent by this firm.
2003 and 2004 Personal and Business Tax returns were filed for the -----'s by our firm. NO FEES WERE CHARGED FOR THE PREPARATION OF THEIR PERSONAL RETURNS BUSINESS OR THE CORPORATE RETURN FOR 2004. The -----'s requested relief for the bill due to hardship. Our company granted the relief in May 2005 when we ended our professional relationship.
Internal Revenue Service chose 2003 and 2004 for audit on February 9, 2006. The audit was to be conducted at the prior residence of the Beltran's at 4918 Longhorne Drive, Dale City, VA. See attached Audit request.
We were no longer associated with the -----'s. A new accountant (Bob e-mail address CBIZbob@aol.com) was hired by the -----'s to represent them for the audit. The new accountant did not show up at the audit. The auditing division closed the audit because the taxpayer failed to provide the documentation requested by Internal Revenue Service. The final position of IRS was the -----'s owed tax totaling $46,000.00. (See Attached original audit).
The -----'s contacted our firm to see if we could help in any way. We told them that they could request Mediation with the manager of the auditor assigned to the case. We advised them that since their accountant did not show up that they might be considered for Mediation. After considerable discussion among members of our firm, we agreed to take the engagement for two reasons; our softhearted nature overrode our misgivings and we were confident of winning the audit as the returns were filed correctly. We drafted letters to the Auditing department and were turned down for the mediation. We filed with the appeals division in Richmond in order for the returns to be reconsidered for audit. (See attached correspondence with Auditing and Appeals)
Appeals did accept our position and sent the returns back to examination.
We had requested several pieces of documentation from the ------'s in order to hold their position before the Internal Revenue Service.
We contacted the accountant that did not show up for the audit and were told that the -----'s failed to provide the audit receipts that he had requested. The -----'s insisted that they had provided the accountant with everything. We asked the ------'s to provide to our firm the documentation that was given to the accountant. To our astonishment, the only thing provided to the accountant was a bag full of papers that did not even apply to the years being audited.
Numerous attempts were made by phone and in writing to get the original documentation so we could proceed with the audit process We explained to Mrs. ----- on at least ten occasions the seriousness of not producing the documents. She said that she didn't remember where she put everything. She said during their move from Woodbridge to Fredericksburg, she did not remember if she left it in the house in Woodbridge or if it was in the unpacked boxes in the garage at the new home or in the warehouse at Barefoot Floors.
When information was provided, we sorted it, prepared it for audit in and waited for more information. We did this for months.
Finally, the day before the audit, Mrs. ----- brought a box of stuff to our office at 10:30pm and expected our firm to put the information together before the 8:00am audit the next morning. Through a heroic effort, we managed to obtain some usable information from the stuff box. We were able to glean a few more receipts but not enough to hold the -----'s position. We were able to get the tax reduced from the original audit in the following amounts:
2003 original amount owed 20,057.00 New amount owed after our firm took the audit 8,722.00
2004 original amount owed 26,375.00 New amount owed after our firm took the audit 15,741.00
The ----'s would have paid 46,432.00 if we had not intervened
Their liability is currently 24,463.00
We saved the -----'s an additional $21,969.00 in taxes that would have been levied against the ------'s had we not gotten involved after the other accountant did not show up for the original audit.
We invested 73 hours into the reconstruction of 2003 and 2004. We invested 17.3 hours in Communication with the IRS examination division and the Appeals division in Richmond.
We currently bill at $20.00 per hour for reconstruction work - $1,460.00 and $125.00 per hour for the examination and appeals = $2,162.50.
We have not received any money for preparing the original return nor have we received any money for the audit representation.
As stated earlier, the only money received from the -------'s was for years prior to 2003, 2004.
It is our position that we do not owe the -----'s anything. The taxpayer is responsible for payment of their taxes. The ------'s remaining tax liability is clearly a result of their failure to produce the documents required by the IRS. We understand the ------'s request as a remedy to use more of our tax services. They, like many hundreds of our clients know that we do legal, moral and ethical "miracles" as a result of our account and tax knowledge, however, no more will be extended to the -----'s, as our work requires a client's cooperation, as opposed to negligence and acrimony
Please see all attachments to uphold our position. We have additional documentation if requested.
Regards,
Deborah L. Patten, E.A
Executive Director
cc Internal Revenue Service
Offer and Compromise Division
Examination Division
Appeals Division
cc James Binder, Attorney At Law
cc Diane & Quintin ----------
January 8, 2008
Patten & Associates, Inc.
13526 Minnieville Road
Woodbridge, VA 22192
(703) 670-3532
Commonwealth of Virginia
Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services
PO Box 1163
Richmond, VA 23218
Attn: Gregory M. Reynolds
Re: Mr. Quintin R. -----
Case #------
Dear Mr. Reynolds,
Our firm received a letter dated January 7, 2008 asking our position regarding a letter received by your organization on December 11, 2007.
Let me begin by stating that this Firm was engaged by the -----'s in 2001 to intervene on their behalf regarding tax liability dating back to the early 1990's. We identified several areas that needed amending and as a result of the amended returns, tax liabilities were lowered. Two of the years our firm amended were selected for audit by Internal Revenue Service (2001, 2002). The audit was preformed by this firm at the Internal Revenue Office (IRS) in Fairfax, Virginia to the benefit of the -----'s. Our firm was able to maintain the -------'s tax position at the audit. At the time of the audits, we had the substantiation documentation provided by the Beltran's to maintain their position before the IRS. After the audits were closed they still owed in excess of $100,000.00 for prior tax years. Our firm did not prepare the prior returns. The remaining tax liability was resolved by IRS through the offer and compromise program. Over $100,000.00 was accepted by IRS to be resolved on the behalf of the --------'s as a result of our work. The man-hours to accomplish the tax resolution along with the amended returns was in excess of 80 hours. Our hourly fee was $90.00 per hour for work of this nature. We charged the -------'s:
$6,120.00 for the Offer and Compromise (68 hours)
$650.00 to represent them at the audit for 1998, 1999.
$375.00 to amend 1999.
$300.00 to file 2000 Business Tax Return (2 Businesses).
$450.00 for 2002 Business Tax Return (2 Businesses).
$360.00 to amend 2001 and 2002.
Total Charges for tax work performed $8590.00. All tax liability was resolved, all audits finalized by our firm and effective Offer and Compromise filled and accepted. Through the amended returns, offer and compromise and audits, we resolved in excess of $125,000.00 in tax liability for the ------'s. The --------'s payments to our firm were as follows:
12/30/2002 Money order for $50.00
04/28/2003 Money order for $65.00
12/23/2003 Check for $5000.00
8/25/2002 - Bartered $900.00
Total Amount Paid by the ----'s $6,015.00
(See attached invoices and payment documentation)
The Beltran's corporation (Barefoot Floors) also engaged our firm for accounting services in 2004. The total amount billed for accounting services from October 2004 through May 2005 was $1,584.00. In May of 2005, we terminated our professional relationship due to the abusive and vulgar language by Mrs. B---- towards one of our staff accountants. We received $1,584.00 from Barefoot Floors for accounting services. At that time we mailed back $400.00 and all of their documents, receipts, etc. (both personal and business).
The charges for services as described earlier were the only charges for services ever billed to the ------'s or to their company. The only revenue received from the ------'s or Barefoot Floors are also listed above.
2003 and 2004 Personal and Business Tax Returns were filed for the ------'s by our firm. NO FEES WERE CHARGED FOR THE PREPARATION OF THEIR PERSONAL RETURNS OR THE CORPORATE RETURN FOR 2004.
Internal Revenue Service selected 2003 and 2004 for audit on February 9, 2006. The audit was to be conducted at the prior residence of the Beltran's at 4918 Longhorne Drive, Dale City, VA. See attached audit request.
We were no longer associated with the ---------'s. A new accountant (Bob e-mail address CBIZbob@aol.com) was hired by the --------'s to represent them for the audit. The original audit for March 20, 2006 was to be a field audit. A field audit is conducted by an IRS agent who comes to the place of business to verify different aspect of the business. The -------'s had moved from the original home used as their tax home, so IRS arranged to conduct the field audit at the ------'s accountant's office. The accountant apparently called the IRS agent (Lisa Marie Silvas, ID# 50-30445, Phone # 703 285-2350 ext 126) and told her that he did not have enough information to conduct the audit and he cancelled the audit process.
The auditing division closed the audit because the taxpayer failed to provide the documentation requested by IRS. The final position of IRS was the --------'s owed tax totaling $20,057 for 2003 and $26,375.0 for 2004. (See attached original audit).
Our firm did not find out about the audit for 2003 and 2004 until the original audit was closed. Listed below is a chronology of correspondence and actions taken by this firm on behalf of the --------'s:
On April 18, 2006 I received a phone call from my son asking if I could help the -------'s.
When information was faxed; I saw that the audit had already been closed due to noncompliance of the --------'s (see faxed documents).
I received a cover letter dated May 5, 2006 along with the information of the audit already conducted on March 20, 2006. Also with the correspondence received on May 5, 2006 was the letter of assessment from IRS. IRS had closed the audit on April 17, 2006.
As soon as the ------'s faxed the information on the audits, I began to work on their behalf to get the audit re-opened. See below the contact dates and content:
The IRS auditor (May 8th, 2006)
Power of Attorney went in on May 9th, 2006
Request to re-open the audit on May 17th, 2006
Request for Mediation on May 18th, 2006
Correspondence with the Beltran's to get audit records on May 16, 2006
Letter of Protest to the Appeals Division on August 14, 2006
Request for ------ audit docs on August 16, 2006
Request for ----- audit docs on October 10, 2006
Request for Appeals in Richmond November 2, 2006
Request to leave appeal reinstated after -------'s failed to return Appellate documents 11/8/2006
Request for ------ audit docs on December 14, 2006
Request for Audit docs on April 6, 2007
Reopen of Audit at local examination in Fairfax on April 6, 2007
Final Audit findings April 9, 2007
Our firm started a process of intervention for the ------'s with a mediation request on May 8, 2006 and were turned down for the mediation. We filed with the appeals division in Richmond to be reconsidered for audit. (See attached correspondence with Auditing and Appeals)
Appeals did accept our petition and sent the returns back to examination.
We had requested the original documentation used to prepare the original returns from the Beltran's in order to hold their position before the Internal Revenue Service.
We contacted the prior accountant (Bob) and were told that the ---------'s failed to provide the audit receipts that he had requested. We asked the Beltran's to provide to our firm the documentation that was given to the accountant. To our astonishment, the only thing provided to the accountant was a bag full of papers that did not even apply to the years being audited.
Numerous attempts were made by phone and in writing to get the original documentation so we could proceed with the audit process We explained to Mrs. ------- on at least ten occasions the seriousness of not producing the documents. She said that she didn't remember where she put everything. She said during their move from Woodbridge to Fredericksburg, she did not remember if she left it in the house in Woodbridge or if it was in the unpacked boxes in the garage at the new home or in the warehouse at Barefoot Floors.
When information was provided, we sorted it, prepared it for audit in and waited for more information. We did this for months.
When the audit examination was re-opened on April 6, 2007, it still remained a field audit. IRS sent a field auditor Eunhee Kuh, ID #50-30437, (Phone # 703-462-5964) to conduct the audit at our office at 13526 Minnieville Road. We had the documentation provided to us by the ---------'s at the office sorted, logged and organized for the auditor. The auditor made 3 trips to our office to gather information which was supposed to be provided to our office by the ------'s. We turned any documentation we received from the -------'s over to the auditor. The audit was closed on April 11, 2007 and the findings were mailed to the -------'s for signature.
In the complaint filed with your organization, the -------'s stated they received a letter with tax liability of over $105,000.00. Our firm does not have any knowledge of the letter or the years for which the liability is for. The terms of the Offer and Compromise and the compliance with those was strictly the responsibility of the taxpayer, the -------'s. The offer and compromise program required that the -------'s file every tax return (personal and business including payroll documents) on time and to pay any tax due on time for a 5-year period from the time the Offer was accepted. Failure in any of these compliance areas would result in the ------'s OIC becoming void.
I believe this response and the documentation attached will reinforce this firm's position that we did respond and help the ------'s when the representative they hired did not show up for the audit.
This firm holds the position that we represented and corresponded with IRS and the ------'s in a responsive and professional manner.
Currently, the ------'s owe this firm $2,575 from the work we did prior to 2003. The ------'s also owe our firm $2,162.50 for the audit and appeal services Rendered in 2006 and 2007. The 2003 and 2004 years are closed and cannot be reopened through an amended return. The -------'s signed the final paperwork in April of 2007 agreeing with the IRS audit finalized in 2007.
This firm has not received $9000.00 from the -----'s. Since the -------'s were not charged for the 2003 or 2004 tax returns, there's nothing to refund. The fees charged to the --------'s was for tax work already completed of which they got the entire benefit of service (over $125,000 in tax liability resolved).
We do not owe the --------'s anything. The taxpayer is responsible for payment of their taxes. We understand the --------'s request as a remedy to use more of our tax services, however, no more will be extended to the -----'s.
Attached documents should be sufficient for a clear understanding of the facts and circumstances surrounding this issue, however we have additional documentation if requested.
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Deborah L. Patten, E.A