ROBERT KUNTZ buzzbot technolgies BJ Bishop his father the president, defaulted on contract of refund for $2400, Internet
WAS guaranted to earn $48,000 from ad rotation on our webapge
the contract was guaranteed no questions asked same day refund if we were not happy with money earned within a year
ON Dec 11TH we all GOT E mail they closed the old office located at altamonte springs fla 32701 he cut employees and filed bankruptcy
opend new office with short staff trying to make a go of the buzzbot technologies
been on phone with Rob past month Jan 2010 he said he applied for a loan and was going to pay me and others back $500 a week until settled
Today FEB 1st differnt story said that because of postings in blogs and here at ripoff report that the loan company turned Him down ! LIES LIES LIES and More Lies
HE said that if he can get into cash flow that he will pay us back! MORE LIES
HE dosent even have an EIN the corp is fictitous names NU TEK Enterprises LLC DBA web2upgrade now buzzbot3.0 and buzz bar was orginally cashblasterpro.com back in april of 08
I want him stopped from robbing the new members and the ones that are still there totally duped by his promises Robert also had two other failed business and one was in litigation URL http://www.sec.gov/litigation/litreleases/lr16556.htm
also years ago another failed E bay business for motorcycle parts or something agin blaming the person that was making the parts or the motorcycyles !
MY side of story NOW ! I sent in the money from Money orders with the u s postal service registered and insured on JAN 25th of 09 ; and was signed for by some other person in another office according to his father BJ bishop. That for some reason thet HE didnt have them yet called me next day late in Jan of 2009 that they have the money orders and that in 2 -4 weeks my own buzzbot property would go live !
NOPE didnt go live until late april and i had to post in the forum way before that what was happening to get action BJ called me and said do YOU want a refund NOW or DO you want to make a go of this ? I said NO please let's move forward !
HE removed the posting because He said it created negativity ! WELL no money was earned until sept of 09 and only $50 ! HE blamed it on the adbrite network which duped him with porr pay outs per click ! SEE the cycle now ? Always placing Blame on another ! HE switched over to google ads and said MORE money will be paid out to us in NOV . Because google ads pay way more than anyother publishers account !
NOPE we got zero $ OCT and NOV and DEC ! I bought this biz oppurtunity to Help pay off MY son's student loans which are a massive total of $40,000 .
I lost income also by not having that $2400 to settle something aginst MY drivers license I could have earned at least $200 a week driving around to gather metals and take them to the recycling center here where i live ! I do it now walking around then MY son takes me there at end of week and i coolect whatever funds i get !
usually around $50 - $100 !
SO i'm warning anyone who is involved with buzzbot technologies TO GET out now !
DO NOT buy any product he has Because HE will make Money and his band of thieves and YOU never will see a profit from the garabge he put together NO where near what is promised HE failed on getting 1 million members TWICE the last BIG PR campign was caled 09-09-09 ! Failed and HE blamed the members for it failing !
BS i did my part I added 50 more people to my down line plus 20 to another friends downline ! What happend was by adding all this new junk WE LOST traffic because the site was too diffucult to navigate again HE blamed the technicians who did this the people he hired !
This is so complicated that a sesoned pro will not make a dime out of it !
I been in internet marketing for 9 years now and I make money with other affilite programs. Google adsense infolinks click bank all earn me money !
S Be warned people Rober kuntz is nothing more than glorifed used acr salesman a pretty packge with garbage inside !IM crying now every day depresed distraught that i was so careful all these yaers to not be scammed ! OMG i had a contract the ad revenue sharing is real thats what google adsense does YOU earn money every day when any visitor clicks on any ad !
HOW can the buzzbot properties fail even with only the current data base of 160,000 members thats a lot of traffic even if it's only 20 % active ! BUT no now maybe only 200 are still active !
regards
BILL
Kiss your dreams goodbye Robert I will never let YOU have any internet business again as long as i'am alive !
11 Updates & Rebuttals
Billybill scrapper
Pennsylvania,USA
ROBERT KUNTZ made resitution under buzzbot.com
#12UPDATE EX-employee responds
Wed, August 10, 2016
Robert Kuntz I'll make you a one time offer to pay you back, or spend that money on court to go after you. Again, 1 time offer and you remove your posts that you've made when I pay you off. I will pay you $100 a week for 30 weeks to your paypal every week starting today. If I miss a payment you can go back to posting.
This is the ONLY time I will make this offer. You choose. date posted 1/26/16 at 11:21 AM MY response OK sure pay me i will never post about you again all posts and reports will be removed BUT let me warn you about FTC laws here Non-Compliance The FTC periodically joins with other law enforcement agencies to monitor the Internet for potentially false or deceptive online advertising claims. If your advertisements don't comply with the law, you could face enforcement actions or civil lawsuits. For advertisers under the FTC's jurisdiction, that could mean: orders to cease and desist, with fines up to $16,000 per violation should they occur. injunctions by federal district courts. Violations of some Commission rules also could result in civil penalties of up to $16,000 per violation. Violations of court orders could result in civil or criminal contempt proceedings. in some instances, refunds to consumers for actual damages in civil lawsuits. btw my pay pal account E mail is willf@g.com but i'm not holding my breath. 1st payment starts feb 5th friday.
How about I start today and you delete your twitter posts about me? I am running a legit business and I am willing to work with you. I ask you work with me at the same time. I will send the first payment right now if you agree I am not wanting to turn this into more BS than there has to be I've not only grown in business, I have grown personally. If we can be adult about this, I am willing to move forward in a positive manner and pay you off. (or anything you may have posted recently) Robert Kuntz 1/26, 11:31am Robert Kuntz Actually, second payment would be Feb 5 as that's 2 fridays from now. But will make that first payment starting this week - now if you agree to the terms above.
ALL Money has been paid to me under this agreement as of this date AUG 10th 2016 and I nolonger hold Robert Kuntz resonsible for all reports here submitted by me William Fermano
Billybill scrapper
Pennsylvania,USA
Robert Kuntz and any known associates are hearby good to go
#12Consumer Suggestion
Wed, August 10, 2016
ANY thing here i reported about buzbot web2upgrade and his other scams fall-o-.com and flutterbuck.com are to be ignored he has made restitution to me in full as of this date Aug. 10th 2016 HE has turned overe getting with others to run new software in the huge gaming industry and finally is doing the right things.
YES i was hurt for $thousands of dollars and 3 years time lost way back in 2007 IT hurt me deeply took me 6 yeras to recover from that and start making a living.
Those thousands i lost could have gotten me back to work by paying off fines holding my DL in revocation.
SO for 3 1/2 years i lost real income of at laest $15,000 a year.
SO any reports here about the Kuntz family is to be ignored HE paid his dues for the crimes he comitted to ME and others they also got money refunded over time.
Sincerly EX affilite of buzzbot fluterrbuck and his other scams
Bill Fermano
Bill
Phila,Pennsylvania,
USA
Robert Kuntz buzzbot
#12Author of original report
Tue, January 11, 2011
JUST an update I desttroyed Buzzbot technolgies it is GONE !
NO one got a dime back out of the MILLIONS he stole and also DID NOT pay taxes
and when he did pay employees IT was cash under the table !
WE need to report HIM to the IRS WE may be rewarded for more than we lost !
UNCLE SAM loves whistle blowers !
OK he has two scams running right now WE must stop him at all cost contact the FTC many times file reports IF YOU are in with HIM now
THESE are the two NEW CON games he has going on
http://www.Fall-O.com and YOU will see pictures of former members of Buzzbot team HIS LYING a*s father right on home page !
IT's another social network set up like buzzbot was former buzbot property owners were grandfathered into the new scam in hopes of getting money or profits from the $1000's they all lost with buzzbot !
http://www.flutterbuck.com/dailydeals/
this is another one Robrt kuntz has up but i see a differnt location in Florida
rinky dink scam buy junk at discounts earn as an affiliate 16 levels deep
LMFAO !
http://www.flutterbuck.com/start/?ID=FlutterBuck001one of affiliates splash page
I wonder How mark thomas feels now defending this criminal !
over 300 people were robbed of $1000's of dollars under the buzzbot con game
and few 100 more or 1000's at both new scams !
STOP HIM COLD people plaese stop HIM from ripping offf others !
http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=129503&highlight=robert+kuntz+buzzbot+scam
shows another person report about how Robert KUNTZ deafrauded HIM and the rest of us !
REPORT HIM TO THE FTC and every other govt agency YOU can !
IT's worse than a scam people it's FRAUD with intent of robbing YOU of YOUR money !
HE even has it set up sowhen any affilaite gets a new meber that the referral goes to him or someone else at the top the owners
YES HE picks the pockets of affilaites !
HE did it at buzzbot also another member saw it happen that he wasnt getting credit for referrals !
I wrned YOU robert KUNTZ and BJ bshop live on the phone YOU heard my rage my temper i'm intent on destroying YOU no mater where YOU turn YOU are the lowest form of life on this planet !
YOU are thieves and someday YOU will be killed by someone i know it will come down rbert YOU will be physically beaten by someone some day soon !
YOUR are a Liar a schizoprnic sociapath
OO yes i also have recordings on CD's of those live calls from buzzbot
wish i could get them up online somewhere !
OVER n OUT for now JAN 10th 2011 6:51 PM
Bill Fermano Billyzeke THE Viglinate for Robert Kuntz BJ bishop (Darrell Kuntz)
and all others associated with them leslie banks ,Fernando Reyes,
Mack and Latrelle husabnd and wife from buzzbot Lori Bray another from buzzbot
Alepano Savelio quoted that he made $20,000 with buzbot
biggest one from buzzbot was support team head Ann Lamarche
also same title at fall-O.com
Enzed
Palmerston North,Internet,
New Zealand
Bill Fermano, you are discredited......
#12UPDATE EX-employee responds
Sun, May 02, 2010
Email sent to Bill @ billyzeke@gmail.com - I have had trouble accessing this site, to post this information earlier.
Date: Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 10:56 PM
Bill,
I mean really....have you quite finished?
Everytime you bang on about how you have been ripped off by Robert NOT
paying your d**n $2400, that is under a 12 month Guarantee to pay you
back.....DUDE.....do you realize that your 12 months Guarantee is not
yet over?
Are you that much of an idiot to not see that?
You are the one that is totally blowing your credibility out of the water.
Everyones Buzzbot Property.....received the 12 month guarantee from
the date it was finished and went LIVE.
YOU stated in ya tirade that your Property went LIVE in late April,
2009......right?
Heres some FACT dude......tell me.....is it now.....Late April 2010? NO!!
So please tell me, how Robert has f*ked this up for you? Please tell
me where Robert broke that 12 month guarantee on your d**n property?
Fact is Bill Fermano.....Robert DIDNT. But for some reason, you
believe Robert has. You are the idiot man.
Sorry to have say that....but your point of Robert not paying your
$2400.....in invalid.
What you have seen since December, is the actions of man, trying his
best to get you paid. None of anything that Robert has tried to do
for you since December.....was he under any obligation to do
so......but he has man.
This is not the actions of a Man pulling a scam, or defaulting on the
payment of a Guarantee.
As soon as I can access that d**n ripoff site, I will be posting this.
You really need to be thanking Robert for actually going out of his
way to personally help you out.
Your case with Robert and your Property......is not the same case as a
handful of others have. Your case is different from the handful of
others.
You cant compare YOUR case, with any others case Bill.
But I know.....you will continue to bang on how hard done by you are,
how Robert is running a scam. The more you write about it, the easier
it is to destroy your credibility.
You are too busy, grand standing.....running at 300 miles an
hour.....to actually see what the idiot you are, you cant even get out
a sentence that has the words spelt correctly for crying out loud, as
you type too fast.
Chill man....slow down.....and pause for a second. OK!
The only one you need to blame here so far....is YOU Bill.
Just stop to think, ok
Contact me at any time, you want to address this email....I totally
look forward to the reply your going to give me here. Because I know
for a fact, your little feelings have just been hurt.
Mark Thomas
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Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 11:17 PM
To: billyzeke@gmail.com
oh and another thing Bill
Thats the glory of the ripoff site......anyone can read it, anyone has
the right of reply on it.
You Sir, certainly do not have the right to tell me NOT to post in it!
I have every right to point out to you, where you are completely
wrong. So that all of those people that happen to come across your
posts....can see how much of a fool you actually are. No one else is
making you out to be a fool......everytime you post....you do that,
all by ya self.
Also I posted that when I was staff.....I was not paid between April
2008 and May 2009......but....yet again..you didnt read correctly what
I had written.....and wrote that I got a nice little job and I was
being paid for sitting in a chatroom. Please when you feel the need
to quote me dude....please write the correct information, ok
Have a nice day
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Bill Fermano
<billyzeke@gmail.com>Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 9:22 AM
O brother no way near Done Mark ! YOU obviously miseed why i took part in the proprty deal LET me tell YOU why and SEE how YOU would FEEL !
MY son Dan is now 21 yrs OLD I bought that property TO help him pay OFF his student loans which are massive $40,000 !
SO Mark how would You Feel if YOU had this happen to you ?
NOT a happy CaMper are YOU!
I was on Phone with ROB several Times and HE heard me Crying sobbing !
Guess what HE didnt care at all HE just went on yelling at me screaming and everything else trying to create credibilty !
SURE My refund ends at April on the 21st so why is ROB setting JUNE 1st as first payout date ?
THATS when our contracts RUN OUT !
Who's the DOPE now mark ?
SO how come YOU only wrote at MY rip off report ?
There are 3 other reports in there !
GO defend ROB to them see how afr that Gets YOU !
HE is nothing more than a Criminal !
SO if YOU want to defend a Criminal YOU go on right ahead !
I will continue with the others TO halt HIM from hurting others !
I'm tired of His lies His fathers lies and every other persons Lies in Buzzbot !
I never did anything Wrong I was never given any support or training as we where told to do!
NO e mails no calls coming to me just a weak support system !
Simple system for succes MY A$S !
THE freaking 1st product the $29 pro upgrade package never worked WE had nothing to earn money from !
AHhhhhh f*k him i'm done with YOU and ROB and DARREL KUNTZ and Lauara Lynch !
THE wrath of GOD will be felt 100 FOLD I know that FOR a Fact ROB will pay dearly and everyone else IN that RICO mob !
GOOD BYE Mark !
Bill Fermano
in PHILA PA
i cant call YOU because i do not have interantional calling
you may add me on SKYPE my user name is lucky77788
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Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 10:25 AM
To: Bill Fermano <billyzeke@gmail.com>
Dude....cant you see your entire arguement is flawed?
Robert never ripped you off man.
Ever. Why cant you see that?
Yes, you bought a Buzzbot Property, that came with a money back
guarantee, that entitled you to a full refund...ONCE your 12 months
was up. Thing is dude....the vast majority are keeping their Buzzbot
Properties.
My point I am trying to get across to you man......is that your 12
months is not yet up......so if ya 12 months is not yet up.....how can
Robert have defaulted on paying you back....right?
Its as easy as that man.
The other point I want to get through to you...is.....since
December....Robert and BJ have been in contact with you, to try and
get ya money back. Sure they have had problems, but the fact
is.....they are trying.
They actually dont need to talk to you until March 22 2010....because
thats when ya 12 months Guarantee is actually up.
Thats all man. How hard is that to understand.
Dude...everyone that bought a Buzzbot property, didnt make the money
that was predicted that we would make......but it dont
matter.....why?....because of that Guarantee.
Sure.....if we didnt have that Guarantee, I would be pissed......but
because of that guarantee, I can get my money back...if I so want it.
I dont want my money back, I believe in Buzzbot, I believe in the
technology, and I believe in Robert.
The sole reason for ya post at ripoffs.....is to tell the world....how
you have been ripped off by Robert failing to pay you out when ya 12
month Guarantee ran out.
The rest is ya padding it out...with Robert trying to get ya, ya
payment back......
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Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 11:02 AM
To: Bill Fermano <billyzeke@gmail.com>
The reason that Robert has chosen June 1st....as outlined in last
Saturdays Prez call.
People like you, and the small handfull of others, are not making
things easy for Robert to get your money back.
Your selfish actions are yes hurting Robert.....thats what you are
wanting to do.....and yes...its working...so ya can feel Proud of ya
selves for doing that. And thats fine dude....I am very glad that we
live in a society, that we can have that right to voice our opinions.
But as you hurt Robert, you are hurting yourselves as well.
The actions that a handful of you guys are taking....could....actually
mean....that you never get ANY of ya money back. Thats the worse case
scenario, on the other side of the coin...if you guys leaned toward
that side.....and made it alil easier for Robert to do his
thing....the further you lean that way...the better chance you have of
getting ya money back. right?
I know Bill you want your $2400 back, right?
The more you lean against Robert, than lean to support him.....the
bigger the chance you wont get ya money back.
Not saying that you dont have a right to feel angry towards the guy.
But logic tells me.....that we always have two choices......Theres the
easier path, and theres the hard way path.
If you guys want to risk not getting ANY of ya money back, ....then
continue the path ya on......I know for a fact, that Robert isnt going
to give up on any of us.
If you guys...bent that path alittle to lean more towards supporting
Robert....the easier that Robert will be able to raise the funding
required to pay you guys back.
For me? sure....that $2400US for the property, is actually $4800NZ at
the time.....and sure I didnt make $48,000.......I know that I can go
to Robert right now, and ask to be paid back, and I know in my heart,
that I will get that money back.
If Robert actually shut down the company in December, and actually
walked away, and actually filed for Bankruptcy.....wouldnt that have
been real easy to do? If Robert had done that, then sure....I would be
leaning more to supporting you guys, than I would be to supporting
Robert. yeah?
I just see Robert trying. I just dont see that the actions you are
taking towards Robert, is going to help you or us out...in a speedy
pay out for those that want it.
Having the road made easier, or harder.....Robert will survive. I see
him right now....moving forward.
What do you think? I know you want ya $2400 back.....so why not try
to help Robert in getting you that money back, yeah? I know that that
money is very important to you, cause as you have mentioned.....you
were crying on the phone with Robert.
For me? If I really needed that $2400 back...I would do everything I
could just so I could get that money back in my hands, and out of
Roberts. Then I would walk away, and chalk the entire experience up
to a learning curve. My whole efforts would doing what I could, so I
got that money back. Yeah?
Maybe if you guys, leaned alittle towards helping Robert...(despite
all that has happened, rise above it, right or wrong - helping Robert
is helping yourselves, Robert will still be out of pocket.), it could
maybe speed up the entire process in getting you guys back the money,
right? The faster that money is out of Roberts hands, and into your
hands....is the ultimate conclusion.....right?
I certainly wouldnt be fighting the person that I wanted to get the
money out of. but thats just me. Sure ya thoughts and feelings are
valid....I am not by any means trying to suggest they are not.
I just want you guys to get the money back, you deserve.
I support Robert, for the fact that I do honestly believe that my
Buzzbot property is going to make me money. I know that very soon, my
choice to stay in the company with my property, that I wont have that
guarantee to fall back on....and I know that the $2400US could be
lost.....thats the risk I take. I really do believe that I am going
to make more money than I already have with Buzzbot. Thats all man.
Whatever happens here at the end of the day.....I totally
believe.....will be positive. :)
Mark
Bill
Phila,Pennsylvania,
USA
MORE BS from BUZZBOT ceo Robert Kuntz NU TEK enterprises CRIMINAL Liar con artsit !
#12Author of original report
Sat, March 20, 2010
( ( ( QUESTIONS ANSWERED ) ) )
- Question: How do strangers to buzzbot actually view the previous wrapped sites?
- Question: Where has your downline gone??
- Question: Why does every wrapped site, contain blatent spam content? In the form of a full page Google ad.
- Question: Why does this same ad, appear for 15 to 20 seconds, before the actual wrapped sites
- Question: Who actually earns income, from this Google Add on our wrapped sites?
- Question:Could this ad, not be conceived as an encouragement to click?
- Question: Is this encouragement, not against Google Terms & Conditions.
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- A. No. This is standard webiste monetization practices as per the Google Terms and Conditions.(NOT NO WAY )
- Question: Do we run the risk, of having our own Google accounts suspended ? Because we are the ones, who are making the content.( YUP 100% chance of banned for life)
- Question: Where has ad revenue gone since September 2009.
- Question: What is the new Direction that we are about to travel?
- Question: Why has the Short URL Tool been disconnected?
- Question: Why can we no longer, use the site submitter tool, because the url is now too long?
- Question: Why are refund requests, deemed as an act of espionage, and treason?
- Question: Who are the people that actually removed our rights of building a home based business on this platform?
- Question: What are the benefits, of owning a buzzbot property?(my answer "NONE AT ALL" )
- Question: What are the benefits, a paid member receives, in relation to free membership?
- Question: Why do the wrapped & submitted sites not appear in search results? Even after the 6 to 8 to 10 week submission period.
- (BIG problem right there )
- Question: How was June 1st forseen and deemed to be the start of refund payments?
- Question: Why were refunds only to be paid in 3 monthly intervals? Thus creating a possible 6 year time frame on completion of refunds.
- Question: How is revenue actually going to be generated, to pay of the refund requests?
The above Questions are actually asked on a daily basis by members around the globe. Some are too frightened to actually ask. The fear of being branded some kind of on-line assassin, seems to hold back their actual feelings. If you can identify with any questions listed above, then its your right, in a free world to ask, without fear of reprisal.A. When you pass out the site you have wrapped, or when we actually release a wrapped site directory that could quite possibly be a part of the next release.
A. What downline? We are not an MLM or affiliate program. ( OMG are you joking ? this is exactly waht YOU are but in form of PONZI scheme ) Though we will be giving direct access to your personal referrals shortly.
A. Actually, this is simply a redirect page ( against terms of adsense .gezusssss ROBERT KUNTZ give it up already ) that contains an ad to help monetize the service so BuzzBot might actually have some form of revenue to pay the overhead to supply this technology and the services provided by BuzzBot. This stuff cost money, that which these questions seem as though some people don't quite understand that.
A. See answer above.
A. See answer above.
A. Arn't all ads? I mean to say, isn't that the point of an ad, to encourage an individual who might be interested in the ad to click on it? Not for the sake of generating clicks, rather for the sake of offering up products and/or services offered up by the Google network of advertisers that might in fact offer soemthing of value and interest to our members, thus and at the same time helping supply some sort of income and revenue to pay overhead for the services supplied and rendered by BuzzBot.
(GO READ ADSENSE TERMS AND POLICIES !)
A. No. We are NOT doing anything that conflicts with the terms of Google's operating guidelines.( A LIE A BLATANT LIE read Google's TOS and Policies)
A. See answer above...or let me further enlighten you. Until recent, over $6,000 a month in server farm bills and also...hold on, I suppose it really is not public interest of our operating expenditures, yet some seem to think so...
A. I don't believe that some people have fully reviewed our press release that fully details this. Maybe they are simply not listening? Full details will not be disclosed though until we have completed our internal planning and solidified specifics of the plan.
A. This is only a temporary technical issue and maybe resolved soon, depending on pending internal planning and strategic activities.
A. see above answer.
A. Why do you feel this way? Maybe... It's not the refund request itself, it's the tone and manner that some people have expressed their feelings and emotions towards this company. Question back. Why do some feel that the issues and problems that we experienced were blatent attempts to undermine certain members? Why do some people treat management as if they are criminals, low-lifes or crooks? Why do certain individuals act as though management has less than honorable intentions?
A. Dare I say the main partners of this company. Let me be more specific. Main EQUITY Partners who own and operate this company, with the full intention of building a long-term technology company that cators to the masses, not the few; a decision that was made to ensure the long-term success of the BuzzBot brand and membership for the benefit and interest of all.
A. Do we really have to answer this again? Ok. The intentions have NEVER changed or altered. The objective was and is still to build a thriving membership that as we become successful, grants massive exposure to the BuzzBot property owners.
A. Currently, use of the existing systems that free members do not have access to. Future benefits for those who have continued to support us will be released and disclosed soon.
A. As stated on previous calls, the wrapped site systems are being revamped due to the fact that search engines have deamed our submissions as spamming their submission process since tens of thousands of submissions were coming in all from the same domain, thus new solutions have had to be planned and are under works for future release.
A. We stated that we would begin paying refunds from a culmination of quarterly revenues in an effort to generate enough funds to be able to disburse anything of substance to the members who have requested funds. We the little bit of traffic that we have had, paying monthly was not realistic.
A. See above answer. Let me ask you how you came up with 6 years?
A. Ad revenues and future product releases.
A. It's only the tone that some individuals deliver their questions and in the manner that they imply that we are doing things that are unethical or immoral. We answer many emails each day at support@web2corporate.com and robert@web2corporate.com - though some people do not recognize our answers.
A. Agreed.
We are not mushrooms, that are constantly kept in the dark, and fed on human waste. Though this board may get deleted by the powers that be.The questions will never go away, until acceptable answers are forth coming, from the very people we all entrusted our futures & our money with.
A. And again we are treated "by some" as if we are evil doers trying to pull the wool over people's eyes.
A. Some people, and specifically you seem to think that we were not appreciative our supporters, which is the farthest thing from the truth. We simply were not appreciative of the harsh criticism and implied accusations by these few certain individuals.
A. You are right there. Just remember, we are on the same team, and not some evil doers trying to pull one over on you as we have so very much been treated over the last many months.
A. These answers prepared by Robert Kuntz, but will they be heard in the context delivered?
Bill
Phila,Pennsylvania,
USA
O Gee whiz lOO@K at this current members OF Buzzbot NOT getting paid !
#12Author of original report
Wed, March 17, 2010
Direct from the main message board !
Ross Hardman
03/13/2010 3:55:17pm
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Hi Robert Can we have a written update in detail on what is being done to buzzbot such as software upgrades, where property owners stand, with this new company, can property owners have in writing that this new company holds the same terms for property owners as it did with buzzbot. Also where is the money coming from to make these changes and upgrades. When will this new system go live, when will property owners start to see revenue, when will we have a Q&A call for property owners? Also can property owners and qlixter investors have a breakdown on what there investments was spent on. Thank You
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Diane Birley
03/13/2010 3:53:47pm
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I dont want to be negative here, and understand Robert has a cold, but i truly believe there should have been a short q & a session, people out here need answers, and need to hear other peoples views ..
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Ross Hardman
03/13/2010 10:43:49am
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How to get a Refund from an Online Scam
mybuzzbot . com/boards/11007369.php
Kind Regards
www . RossHardman . Com
MORE about the crime going ON with the NEW office of ROBERT KUNTZ NUTEK Enterprises BUZZBOT BUZZBOARDS BUZZWORDS QLIXTER.COM His own serach engine which is nothing more than a copy of GOOGLE's search engine because thats where all the results come from !
read this update from the FTC and maybe YOU will realize that ROB KUNTZ and his Father DARRELL KUNTZ yes people BJ Bishop is Darrel KUNTZ operating under a fictious name !
ROB KUNTZ is in deep trouble with 5 filed reports !
http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/pubs/business/ecommerce/bus28.shtm
Advertising must tell the truth and not mislead consumers.
In addition, claims must be substantiated.
GENERAL OFFERS AND CLAIMS
PRODUCTS AND SERVICES
The Federal Trade Commission Act allows the FTC to act in the interest of all consumers to prevent deceptive and unfair acts or practices. In interpreting Section 5 of the Act, the Commission has determined that a representation, omission or practice is deceptive if it is likely to:
mislead consumers and
affect consumers' behavior or decisions about the product or service.
In addition, an act or practice is unfair if the injury it causes, or is likely to cause, is:
substantial
not outweighed by other benefits and
not reasonably avoidable.
The FTC Act prohibits unfair or deceptive advertising in any medium. That is, advertising must tell the truth and not mislead consumers. A claim can be misleading if relevant information is left out or if the claim implies something that's not true. For example, a lease advertisement for an automobile that promotes "$0 Down" may be misleading if significant and undisclosed charges are due at lease signing.
If your ad uses phrases like "satisfaction guaranteed" or "money-back guarantee," you must be willing to give full refunds for any reason. You also must tell the consumer the terms of the offer.
Non-Compliance
The FTC periodically joins with other law enforcement agencies to monitor the Internet for
potentially false or deceptive online advertising claims.
If your advertisements don't comply with the law, you could face enforcement actions or civil lawsuits. For advertisers under the FTC's jurisdiction, that could mean:
orders to cease and desist, with fines up to $16,000 per violation should they occur.
injunctions by federal district courts. Violations of some Commission rules also could result in civil penalties of up to $16,000 per violation. Violations of court orders could result in civil or criminal contempt proceedings.
in some instances, refunds to consumers for actual damages in civil lawsuits.
Thats just the short part of what ROB has done wrong MARK !
Also maybe YOUR too dumb to read the rules and policies of Google's FREE adsense publishers account !
SO let ME show YOU what ROB is doing wrong right now two ways !
#1 Sharing ad revenues with members instant account disabled for life !
#2 Charging others a FEE to have adsense ads run on thier websites or whatever BS packages ROB is stealing money from others with !
BOTH breakling the policies of Google's adsense FREE publishers account !
Also Mark havent they failed twice at getting that Million members ? YES way before the 09/09/09 campaign they tried a campign it failed !
and after both failed who did he blame ? THE freking staff HE hired thats who and us the mebers for not getting the word out more!
BS LIE DECEIVING false hoods Beacuse i did my part i got my people more refrralls and got 50 more my own in aug thru to sept !
SO mark YOU see i have credibility and obviously YOU come to my report saying I was at Fault ? I know why Mark because Me and the others are hurting ROB !
YOU felt i was easiest to traget and say lies that I did wrong ! Well i never did no wrong in any way shape or form NOTHING not even that phony check i put up!
Funny the only one to find that blog was BJ and no one else found it ! Real cute ! They put up a contract and defaukted on it on DEC 11TH 1
Another thing Mark ROB blamed us for HIM not getting the Loan ! WELL if yiu serach here YOU will a report filed in NOV the 23rd of 09 about the scheme Rob was running ! That was before DEC 11th when robsent out that e mail !
Wasnt ME or BILL B or David who filed that report ! HE has lied TO YOU for 2 years Mark ! when are YOU going to realize HE's is a Monster that took in over 1 Million dollars is still robbing more people and will never repay the $100,000's in refunds he owes NOT in JUNE or later NO ONE gets a penny back I guarantee IT!
Because ROB has NO credit thats why he blamed us for not getting that Loan 1st he Ran Bil B through it in DEC than ME lying the same story that he was working with Bill also I got the same story that HE gave Bill Brabant the month before !
HE is Delaying again saying HE will start paying in JUNE HE will NOT pay us our refunds HE just trying to fill his pockets so he can move again !
ANOTHER curious thing Mark how in GOD's names are all the properties of the members wanting refunds still up and running ?
MY id number was 161823 MY SPORTS UNLIMTED property is up under some phony name now smith smith and a differnt USER ID !
SO are the others still up and able to browse to IF YOU can find the desktops !
Also we have proof that when a new member joins and enters in the pulldown box how he found them that they get redircted to rob or BJ or some other person at top !
Real nice YOU get someone to join to earn a commision from and they PICK YOUR pocket while taking MONEY from you !
I 'd rather meet up with thief in dark alley nad get robbed once instaed of for a year ! OVER N OVER again picking pockets of innocent people with a RICO mob!
THIs is the last post i better ever see FROM YOU Mark do not come in here again to defend a group of Liars Gypsies Thieves I will not tolerate it !
TELL rob that HE will be served by the fed gov't with a cease and dessist order they might do it LIVE when he is on call a total lock down of office and servers everything goess poof in a minute and Rob and BJ and Lauara and the other guy in the small new office will have to make resitution instantly!
Regards
BILL Fermano
Bill
Phila,Pennsylvania,
USA
NUTEK ENTERPRISES, LLC dba WEB2UPGRADE, Florida
#12Author of original report
Thu, March 11, 2010
YOU know what Mark either YOU are stupid or have been brianwashed by by Rob and Bj so much that YOU fail to realize that a crime has been commited !
YES bj called me after i posted a perfectly resonable question about what's happening with my property ! I spent $2400 and all i heard FROM BJ the day they they recived
that money was that it would take 2-4 weeks to have my property completed ! SO 5 weeks later i have not been contacted have not been called or anything on what to do!
SO BJ removed the post saying it was negative ! BS lie it was a request for help period! That day he called me and asked if i want my refund now or to move on was theworst mistake of the year for ME saying lets move on !
SO YOU say robshould look into MY credibilty ? BS Mark I also gave free;y hours of my time days weeks creating blogs with descriptions of everyone's property
and how to get around each property and updated each blog as the pages changed with new desktops ! SO dont ask about my credibilty !
SURE you made money YOU were paid to be in chat support so many hours per day ! WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ! real nice lil job they gave YOU !
YES YOU made a guide for others to follow but it wasnt working for me or others ! Simply because ROB and his staff made the d**n buzzbot so diffucult to get around that YOU needed a live guided touer to find everything ! I didnt commit internet Fraud I didnt put up a Contract guaranteeing a $48,000 a year income with no effort and earn passive residual income into the $100,000's in two years with bs NO RISK NO QUESTIONS asked same day Refund !
SO Mark let me ask how YOU'd Feel IF YOU took part in this contract and did it to Help Pay off YOUR Own Son's college Loans of $40,000 ! Comon Mark be homest I have a 21 yr old son that has a massive debt that by the time he gets done paying it off he will be 46 yrs old and the interest will be huge that makes the total bebt over $78,000 !
LIKE i said back in JAN i could have used the $3000 YES $3000 mark i had invested $2400 and $600 to get advertsing and traffic and more members !
Could have bought a car for $1500 the other $1500 would pay for insuarnce and any repairs needed to the car and I easyily could have made $15,000 for the year !
I now have a car and earn more per day than YOU earn with buzzbot in a month ! $100 - $200 per day ! pickup people at shopping centers give them a ride home $3 - $15 each depends on distance ! Plus what i gather in scrap metal ! BUT now i'm done with the NEW business all 7 levels filled have two large org's under me that will earn ME more per month than YOU or any member in Buzzbot earn for the YEAR ! REAL advertisers dollars are pouring in HUNDREDS of MILLIONS per month!
SO another question Mark there are other Ripoff reports in Here How come you come here to mines to defend a CRIMINAL ? YES a CRIMINAL ROB his Father for operating under a false name HIS real name we all knew was KUNTZ his 1st name is DArrell ! Whats the reason for that Mark ? Why use a false Name ?
Because he was involved in other illegal activites years ago Thats WHY! Also we heard That ROB's brother is currently in Prison !
havent got confirmed because it was just told to another in the UK !
NOW mark read this update from the FTC and maybe YOU will realize that ROB is in deep trouble with 5 filed reports !
http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/pubs/business/ecommerce/bus28.shtm
Advertising must tell the truth and not mislead consumers. In addition, claims must be substantiated.
GENERAL OFFERS AND CLAIMS
PRODUCTS AND SERVICES
The Federal Trade Commission Act allows the FTC to act in the interest of all consumers to prevent deceptive and unfair acts or practices. In interpreting Section 5 of the Act, the Commission has determined that a representation, omission or practice is deceptive if it is likely to:
mislead consumers and affect consumers' behavior or decisions about the product or service. In addition, an act or practice is unfair if the injury it causes, or is likely to cause, is:
substantial not outweighed by other benefits and not reasonably avoidable.
The FTC Act prohibits unfair or deceptive advertising in any medium. That is, advertising must tell the truth and not mislead consumers. A claim can be misleading if relevant information is left out or if the claim implies something that's not true. For example, a lease advertisement for an automobile that promotes "$0 Down" may be misleading if significant and undisclosed charges are due at lease signing.
If your ad uses phrases like "satisfaction guaranteed" or "money-back guarantee," you must be willing to give full refunds for any reason. You also must tell the consumer the terms of the offer.
Non-Compliance
The FTC periodically joins with other law enforcement agencies to monitor the Internet for potentially false or deceptive online advertising claims.
If your advertisements don't comply with the law, you could face enforcement actions or civil lawsuits. For advertisers under the FTC's jurisdiction, that could mean:
orders to cease and desist, with fines up to $16,000 per violation should they occur.
injunctions by federal district courts. Violations of some Commission rules also could result in civil penalties of up to $16,000 per violation. Violations of court orders could result in civil or criminal contempt proceedings.
in some instances, refunds to consumers for actual damages in civil lawsuits.
Thats just the short part of what ROB has done wrong MARK !
Also maybe YOUR too dumb to read the rules and policies of Google's FREE adsense publishers account !
SO let ME show YOU what ROB is doing wrong right now two ways !
#1 Sharing ad revenues with members instant account disabled for life !
#2 Charging others a FEE to have adsense ads run on thier websites or whatever BS packages ROB is stealing money from others with !
BOTH breakling the policies of Google's adsense FREE publishers account !
Also Mark havent they failed twice at getting that Million members ? YES way before the 09/09/09 campaign they tried a campign it failed !
and after both failed who did he blame ? THE freking staff HE hired thats who and us the mebers for not getting the word out more! BS LIE DECEIVING false hoods Beacuse i did my part i got my people more refrralls and got 50 more my own in aug thru to sept !
SO mark YOU see i have credibility and obviously YOU come to my report saying I was at Fault ? I know why Mark because Me and the others are hurting ROB !
YOU felt i was easiest to traget and say lies that I did wrong ! Well i never did no wrong in any way shape or form NOTHING not even that phony check i put up!
Funny the only one to find that blog was BJ and no one else found it ! Real cute ! They put up a contract and defaukted on it on DEC 11TH 1
Another thing Mark ROB blamed us for HIM not getting the Loan ! WELL if yiu serach here YOU will a report filed in NOV the 23rd of 09 about the scheme Rob was running ! That was before DEC 11th when robsent out that e mail !
Wasnt ME or BILL B or David who filed that report ! HE has lied TO YOU for 2 years Mark ! when are YOU going to realize HE's is a Monster that took in over 1 Million dollars is still robbing more people and will never repay the $100,000's in refunds he owes NOT in JUNE or later NO ONE gets a penny back I guarantee IT!
Because ROB has NO credit thats why he blamed us for not getting that Loan 1st he Ran Bil B through it in DEC than ME lying the same story that he was working with Bill also I got the same story that HE gave Bill Brabant the month before !
HE is Delaying again saying HE will start paying in JUNE HE will NOT pay us our refunds HE just trying to fill his pockets so he can move again !
ANOTHER curious thing Mark how in GOD's names are all the properties of the members wanting refunds still up and running ?
MY id number was 161823 MY SPORTS UNLIMTED property is up under some phony name now smith smith and a differnt USER ID !
SO are the others still up and able to browse to IF YOU can find the desktops !
Also we have proof that when a new member joins and enters in the pulldown box how he found them that they get redircted to rob or BJ or some other person at top !
Real nice YOU get someone to join to earn a commision from and they PICK YOUR pocket while taking MONEY from you !
I 'd rather meet up with thief in dark alley nad get robbed once instaed of for a year ! OVER N OVER again picking pockets of innocent people with a RICO mob!
THIs is the last post i better ever see FROM YOU Mark do not come in here again to defend a group of Liars Gypsies Thieves I will not tolerate it !
TELL rob that HE will be served by the fed gov't with a cease and dessist order they might do it LIVE when he is on call a total lock down of office and servers everything goess poof in a minute and Rob and BJ and Lauara and the other guy in the small new office will have to make resitution instantly!
Regards
BILL
Bill
Phila,Pennsylvania,
USA
Sory Mark a criminal is thief and liar Robert kuntz defruded on a guarnteed contract Buzzbot NU tek Enterprises income tax evasion Fraud
#12Author of original report
Thu, March 11, 2010
YOU know what Mark either YOU are stupid or have been brianwashed by by Rob and Bj so much that YOU fail to realize that a crime has been commited !
YES bj called me after i posted a perfectly resonable question about what's happening with my property ! I spent $2400 and all i
heard FROM BJ the day they they recived
that money was that it would take 2-4 weeks to have my property completed ! SO 5 weeks later i have not been contacted have not been
called or anything on what to do!
SO BJ removed the post saying it was negative ! BS lie it was a request for help period! That day he called me and asked if i want my refund now or to move on was
theworst mistake of the year for ME saying lets move on !
SO YOU say robshould look into MY credibilty ? BS Mark I also gave free;y hours of my time days weeks creating blogs with descriptions of everyone's property
and how to get around each property and updated each blog as the pages changed with new desktops ! SO dont ask about my credibilty !
SURE you made money YOU were paid to be in chat support so many hours per day ! WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ! real nice lil job they gave YOU !
YES YOU made a guide for others to follow but it wasnt working for me or others ! Simply because ROB and his staff made the d**n buzzbot so diffucult to get
around that YOU needed a live guided touer to find everything ! I didnt commit internet Fraud I didnt put up a Contract guaranteeing a $48,000 ayear income with
no effort and earn passive residual income into the $100,000's in two years with bs NO RISK NO QUESTIONS asked same day Refund ! SO Mark let me ask how
YOU'd Feel IF YOU took part in this contract and did it to Help Pay off YOUR Own Son's college Loans of $40,000 ! Comon Mark be homest I have a 21 yr old son that
has a massive debt that by the time he gets done paying it off he will be 46 yrs old and the interest will be huge that makes the total bebt over $78,000 !
LIKE i said back in JAN i could have used the $3000 YES $3000 mark i ahd invested $2400 and 4600 to get advertsing and traffic and more members !
Could have bought a car for $1500 the other $1500 would pay for insuarnce and any repairs needed to the car and I easyily could have made $15,000 for the year !
I now have a car and earn more per day than YOU earn with buzzbot in a month ! $100 - $200 per day ! pickup people at shopping centers give them a ride home $3 -
$15 each depends on distance ! Plus what i gather in scrap metal ! BUT now i'm done with the NEW business all 7 levels filled have two large org's under me that will
earn ME more per month than YOU or any member in Buzzbot earn for the YEAR ! REAL advertisers dollars are pouring in HUNDREDS of MILLIONS per month!
SO another question Mark there are other Ripoff reports in Here How come you come here to mines to defend a CRIMINAL ? YES a CRIMINAL ROB his Father for
operating under a false name HIS real name we all knew was KUNTZ his 1st name is DArrell ! Whats the reason for that Mark ? Why use a false Name ?
Because he was involved in other illegal activites years ago Thats WHY! Also we heard That ROB's brother is currently in Prison !
havent got confirmed because it was just told to another in the UK !
NOW mark read this update from the FTC and maybe YOU will realize that ROB is in deep trouble with 5 filed reports !
http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/pubs/business/ecommerce/bus28.shtm
Advertising must tell the truth and not mislead consumers.
In addition, claims must be substantiated.
GENERAL OFFERS AND CLAIMS
PRODUCTS AND SERVICES
The Federal Trade Commission Act allows the FTC to act in the interest of all consumers to prevent deceptive and unfair acts or practices. In interpreting Section 5 of
the Act, the Commission has determined that a representation, omission or practice is deceptive if it is likely to:
mislead consumers and
affect consumers' behavior or decisions about the product or service.
In addition, an act or practice is unfair if the injury it causes, or is likely to cause, is:
substantial
not outweighed by other benefits and
not reasonably avoidable.
The FTC Act prohibits unfair or deceptive advertising in any medium. That is, advertising must tell the truth and not mislead consumers. A claim can be misleading if
relevant information is left out or if the claim implies something that's not true. For example, a lease advertisement for an automobile that promotes "$0 Down" may
be misleading if significant and undisclosed charges are due at lease signing.
If your ad uses phrases like "satisfaction guaranteed" or "money-back guarantee," you must be willing to give full refunds for any reason. You also must tell the
consumer the terms of the offer.
Non-Compliance
The FTC periodically joins with other law enforcement agencies to monitor the Internet for
potentially false or deceptive online advertising claims.
If your advertisements don't comply with the law, you could face enforcement actions or civil lawsuits. For advertisers under the FTC's jurisdiction, that could mean:
orders to cease and desist, with fines up to $16,000 per violation should they occur.
injunctions by federal district courts. Violations of some Commission rules also could result in civil penalties of up to $16,000 per violation. Violations of court orders
could result in civil or criminal contempt proceedings.
in some instances, refunds to consumers for actual damages in civil lawsuits.
Thats just the short part of what ROB has done wrong MARK !
Also maybe YOUR too dumb to read the rules and policies of Google's FREE adsense publishers account !
SO let ME show YOU what ROB is doing wrong right now two ways !
#1 Sharing ad revenues with members instant account disabled for life !
#2 Charging others a FEE to have adsense ads run on thier websites or whatever BS packages ROB is stealing money from others with !
BOTH breakling the policies of Google's adsense FREE publishers account !
Also Mark havent they failed twice at getting that Million members ? YES way before the 09/09/09 campaign they tried a campign it failed !
and after both failed who did he blame ? THE freking staff HE hired thats who and us the mebers for not getting the word out more!
BS LIE DECEIVING false hoods Beacuse i did my part i got my people more refrralls and got 50 more my own in aug thru to sept !
SO mark YOU see i have credibility and obviously YOU come to my report saying I was at Fault ? I know why Mark because Me and the others are hurting ROB !
YOU felt i was easiest to traget and say lies that I did wrong ! Well i never did no wrong in any way shape or form NOTHING not even that phony check i put up!
Funny the only one to find that blog was BJ and no one else found it ! Real cute ! They put up a contract and defaukted on it on DEC 11TH 1
Another thing Mark ROB blamed us for HIM not getting the Loan ! WELL if yiu serach here YOU will a report filed in NOV the 23rd of 09 about the scheme Rob was
running ! That was before DEC 11th when robsent out that e mail !
Wasnt ME or BILL B or David who filed that report ! HE has lied TO YOU for 2 years Mark ! when are YOU going to realize HE's is a Monster that took in over 1 Million
dollars is still robbing more people and will never repay the $100,000's in refunds he owes NOT in JUNE or later NO ONE gets a penny back I guarantee IT!
Because ROB has NO credit thats why he blamed us for not getting that Loan 1st he Ran Bil B through it in DEC than ME lying the same story that he was working
with Bill also I got the same story that HE gave Bill Brabant the month before !
HE is Delaying again saying HE will start paying in JUNE HE will NOT pay us our refunds HE just trying to fill his pockets so he can move again !
ANOTHER curious thing Mark how in GOD's names are all the properties of the members wanting refunds still up and running ?
MY id number was 161823 MY SPORTS UNLIMTED property is up under some phony name now smith smith and a differnt USER ID !
SO are the others still up and able to browse to IF YOU can find the desktops !
Also we have proof that when a new member joins and enters in the pulldown box how he found them that they get redircted to rob or BJ or some other person at
top !
Real nice YOU get someone to join to earn a commision from and they PICK YOUR pocket while taking MONEY from you !
I 'd rather meet up with thief in dark alley nad get robbed once instaed of for a year ! OVER N OVER again picking pockets of innocent people with a RICO mob!
THIs is the last post i better ever see FROM YOU Mark do not come in here again to defend a group of Liars Gypsies Thieves I will not tolerate it !
TELL rob that HE will be served by the fed gov't with a cease and dessist order they might do it LIVE when he is on call a total lock down of office and servers
everything goess poof in a minute and Rob and BJ and Lauara and the other guy in the small new office will have to make resitution instantly!
Regards
BILL F
Enzed
Palmerston North,Internet,
New Zealand
Update: Saturday 6th March 2010
#12UPDATE EX-employee responds
Sun, March 07, 2010
Dear Bill Fermano,
Here is the link to todays call.
Date: Saturday 6th March, 2010
URL: http://attendthisevent.com/?eventID=11761689
This is a report by the Founder of Buzzbot Technologies - Robert Kuntz
I hope after hearing this call Bill, that ALL your fears, will have been addressed.
Robert states that we all will get what we have asked for.
- Be it a refund.
- Be it reap the rewards.
This is Robert focused, professional, with a solid business plan to move forward in taking Buzzbot from an home based business, back into focusing on the technology company, into 2010.
As you can see/hear by this report today.....this is hardly the actions of a person/company...setting out to create a scam, to generate lies, to steal money or gain email addresses.
Bill, you will get ya refund Sir. All that you need to do now, is wait....and allow that process to happen.
They say patience is a virtue. Robert Kuntz, has made himself available to action any issues.....yes...ANY and ALL issues that people have....on an individual - one on one basis. Feel free to contact him via his email address. robert@web2corporate.com
Before you say, that you prefer to call Robert.....the sending of an email...creates the paper trail.....right?
I wish you all the best Bill, and that any other program you choose to participate in...that you finally have the success you are looking for. Maybe with the refund of the $2400.....you will be able set up that metal business you have talked about. Sounds like a goer :) All the best for 2010 and beyond.
Mark Thomas
New Zealand.
* Disclaimer: I have sort to address Bill Fermano's concerns on this site, from my own observations, and dealings with the company. In by no means, have I been asked to do this from any other person, that includes current staff at Buzzbot Technologies Corporate. However members at Corporate have been made aware of my actions here.
Enzed
Palmerston North,Internet,
New Zealand
Bill Fermano
#12UPDATE EX-employee responds
Wed, March 03, 2010
My name is Mark Thomas, I am an ex-employee of Robert Kuntz company..Buzzbot Technologies.
I was part of the Support Team, and the Training Manager.
Bill Fermano has always been a difficult member of the company. I personally have spent alot of my time trying to help him. I have found that he simply doesnt listen to what is happening, so what he feels is going on, is not the case.
Billy Zeke as we know him at Buzzy, right from the start set out to defraud the people out there via his blog. He had no trouble telling the people false information about how much money he was making at Buzzbot, he even went as far as to 'doctor' a cheque to make it look like it had come from Buzzbot.....1) Buzzbot never has paid out commissions by cheque, 2) the figure that was quoted in the fake cheque was in correct.
When I found Bill boasting in the chatroom about this way of signing up new members, I reported him to the Robert. We got Bill to remove the picture of the fake cheque, and amend the text to reflect the truth.
Bill was given a 2nd chance to remain as a member of Buzzbot, even though Bills actions were in breach of the TOS.
Buzzbot has been, and always will be a company that continues to evolve. As things were tried, and failed, or became a better way for doing something.
1) Cash Blaster Pro, was a compaign for registering new members and creating a membership base. There was incentives for those members that got to work, and spread the word. That was a success. 110,000 members signed up.
I got to work there, and was successful as I gained a position as one of top 50 members, out of 110,000.
With this Database of Members......Buzzbot was released on July 1st 2008.
2) Buzzbot.....against the negative naysayers that tried to block the website from opening....launched on time on July 1st 2008. Robert proved to the membership and the naysayers, that he did indeed develope a program that could bring social networking services to every website on the internet......we had a version of Buzzbot, that was a small down loadable program, that needed to be installed on your computer.
3) Buzzbot evolved again to become web based. No longer was the Buzzbot....down loadable. This is called PROGRESS Bill, and is not a scam, nor is it lying.
So progress and versions of Buzzbot continued to evolve. I was the one writing the user manuals and Guides for Buzzbot.
But listening to Bill Fermano write about Robert and Buzzbot...you would think there was something wrong going on, and that lies were being sent out. Bill has a very active imagination and as he was not able to listen to what and why things were happening....he feels that he has been scammed.
Yes, there was a product for sale called Buzzbot Properties. They came with a 1x year money back guarantee. If the member was not happy with the money earned from the advertising on their property, they had the right to a full no questions asked refund.
If Bill Fermano bothered to listen as to why things were happening the way they were, he would know that he would get his money back, if he chose that option. Bill you have to allow people a chance to actually have things happen.
Bill....fact...the office space in Altamonte Springs Florida, was let go......as the business relocated to a property in Sandford Florida, that had two houses, and several other buildings on one site.....that the rent was cheaper, and the company could be run from there. All staff were relocated.
Every step of the way, Robert has informed the membership of the what and why things were happening as they did.
The ad revenues from the Properties actually started in August 2009. Between December 2008 and August 2009....Everyone that bought a property, all benefited from the updated versions of Buzzbot that continued to evolve to the point that allowed each property to have the ad revenue code embeded. The company went with Adbrite ads....and when the very first payment came through in September for payment on the 15th.....it was found that the amount they received....was 1/4 of what they believed it should have been. The same day....Adbrite codes were dropped, and Google Adsense code were adopted. The membership was informed. Even though this was a disappointing out come for the membership....the company paid out the difference, and paid each and every property owner between $50 and $200 dollars based on a prediction on what the property should have earned from adbrite ads. This money came out of the companies pocket. Hardly a company thats out to be a scam or defraud, huh? They didnt have to do this Bill, but they did. They gave you Bill, $50. Is this the actions of a company that is a SCAM?
But that was enough for people like Bill Fermano, to start crying scam, and again...not listening....and saying untruths about Robert and his conduct with the Buzzbot company.
Actions such as this post by Bill, and a handfull of other members, shouting from the rooftops of untruths, scam, lies etc etc.....put the company into a downward spiral.
To cut costs, staff had to be let go. Robert has done everything in his power to aquirer funding so he can pay back those few handful of members that demanded their money back for their properties. Even though some of them were not yet entitled to a refund. Actions of a man that is SCAMMING?
By Bills own admission here - quote"NOPE didnt go live until late April" end quote Late April 2009.......Bill...your 1x year Full money back Guarantee Sir...is still valid.....as it is not yet Late April 2010....is it.....so why are you getting upset that you have not yet been paid? a classic case of you NOT listening. ok we move on... You were offered a full refund by BJ, or make a go of it..... quote "Bj called me and said do YOU want a refund NOW or DO you want to make a go of this? I said NO please let's move forward." end quote. To me, that situation was delt with, right? The post was removed because yes, you were posting negative information, that wasnt true. Every step of the way, Bill Fermano has been rocking the boat.
Bill you cant blame others for you using money to buy a property that you couldnt afford. quote "I lost income also by not having that $2499 to settle something against MY drivers license" end quote
The fact is, I believe that Bill Fermano is a victim of his own actions and being ill informed because he simply knows best, and doesnt need to listen to Staff at Corporate.
Bill will get his money back, as will any other member that has asked for the Property refund. And yes, even before the 1x year Guarantee has ended, as in Bills case. It looks like Robert has been working with Bill Fermano to get him his refund, since December 2009.....thats a full 4 months at least, early in that 1x year contract.
I stepped a side from the Support position I held, as their was a small group of 5 members that where hell bent on running the company into the ground. They found it upon themselves to create chaos, through me. It failed. As I stepped aside from Corporate. When that failed to to do anything, those same members then hacked my account, posted comments and forum posts, saying they were from me, when they wernt. That too failed. Whats the saying here..."keep ya friends close, and ya enemies closer"...this is a professional business practice is it not? I fully support Robert Kuntz, I believe in him, and I believe in his company and the technology. I paid $2400US for a property.....I am keeping that property.....1) it shows my support for the company, and 2) it shows I have faith in the property to generate an income.
Also.....I was NOT paid wages from September 2008 to May 2009. I was corporate, and I gave of my time to the membership mostly for FREE. I was given a share within the company as payment for my service. I worked every single day, on manuals, and guides, as well as Support in the chatrooms, and monitoring the posts on the forum. I worked every single day for at least 22 months for the company. I attended and plugged into ALL of the weekly membership meetings that were made available for FREE, to all members....and those members that could not get to the meeting "LIVE", they were recorded. So theres no excuse for not understanding what was going on. I also signed up members, as did Bill Fermano....as I was an top 50 member, I had brought in over 1000 members.....I worked with my members on a personal level on each one. I sold a property, commission was $1080, I had members purchase Buzzword, ad packages, and sold a property at level 2....I personally made over $2000 by my own efforts. I was available to offer that help to any member that came to me...asking for help..if they were in my downline or not, that didnt matter....Bill didnt do that. I have my payment records on my Global Plus Card to prove the payments. I have zero markerting skills in network marketing....but yet I still was able to use the site and make some decent money from commissions.....doesnt sound like the site was that hard to navigate around huh?
Bill Fermano, with over 9 years of making money online in other programs......why was he not able to make money using his skills and knowledge at Buzzbot? Thats the question you should be asking of him....Bill has proven to use untruths to benefit himself by using a fake cheque, but then demands 100% honesty from others. Double standards Bill. quote" I been in internet marketing for 9 years now and I make money with other affilite programs. Google adsense infolinks click bank all earn me money"end quote
Yes, the company has made mistakes, as does any brand new company.....and things have been learned from those mistakes. Robert has used every ounce of his power, to put things right, working with those members on a personal level. Things ALSO happen, that are done out of the hands of the founders.
Buzzbot Technologies is honourable, is NOT a Scam as Bill likes to have you believe it is. I find this thread by Bill Fermano, upsetting, and insulting. Basically by the things that he states as fact, and if they were fact....then why am I not upset with Robert, the company, and the buzzbot programs, and why was I able to write the guides and manuals if the site was so hard to understand, and why was I one of many, able to make to make money through the site with zero marketing skills......because fact..there is no scam here.
I will make myself available to defend Roberts Kuntz good name, from character assassinations by Bill Fermano, and any other member that defames Roberts character and company.
Keep in mind that I am an ex-staff member, I am an member of Buzzbot, and also have a $2400US Buzzbot Property......that is current. I was able to make money off Buzzbot with zero marketing skills, I wrote the manuals and guides, and helped out with support in the chatrooms....between April 2008, and September 2008...off my own back...Robert had not asked me to do this. I saw a need, saw the same questions cropping up all the time by members, so stepped up and filled that need. I had to learn how to use the site, the same as everyone else. By my actions alone....Robert asked me to officially become part of Corporate in late September 2008.
Before there is this character assassination of Robert Kuntz....please do some research on the credibility of Bill Fermano.
Mark
New Zealand
Bill
Phila,Pennsylvania,
USA
buzzbot scam ripoff robert kuntz criminal activity
#12Author of original report
Sun, February 28, 2010
THE story continues !
HE contacted me by pohone last week on monday feb 21 st stated to pay me $100 per week 1st payment in next 24 - 48 hours direct to my global cash card as long as i remove postings and stop any ! BUT as soon as i'm not paid i can continue to report HIM and his band of crooks !
HIS father BJ bishop is using false name his real name of course is Daryl Kuntz also spelled with two R's Darryl . Laura Lynch is mgr of support these are 3 that started with cashblasterpro , then web2upgrade , now buzzbot2.0 buzzbot3.0 which are being replaced by new fraud Qlixter.com serach engine , buzzboards, buzzoka marketing and agin the biggest crime buzzbot properties !
HE also is cahrging people to have adsense ads run on thier chosen upgrade package
which of course once Google gets word og that vilolation he can kiss that adsense account goodbye but really he dont care cause he's just pocketing the $1000's again and maybe paying out small commisons and will finally fold up and go away !
While the few 100 left in there are losing more money trying to get something out of thier buzzbot properties that caost them $2400 or $3600 each !
Also HE didnt pay employyees at old office by check when he did pay it cash under the table and has not paid taxes at all for 08 or 09 and this is about 1 million 250 thousand dollars taken in !
IM asking any of YOU who reads this that are involved now or were involved to contact the FTC , IRS, Attorney General in Florida and your local attorney General also ! Plus Call the FBI internet crime center or squad 8 div !
MORE reoports faster action will be taken E mail me to call me at billyzeke@gmail.com
my blog http://buzzbotscamripoff.blogspot.com/
Robert made one too he he he what a joke
http://buzzbotscam.blogspot.com
THE LIES from his and fathers mouth is worse than a dead mans vomit !
HERES is link to call when he got up on his soap box and called out ME Bill and david and was supposed to take legal action against us !
Also if you listen YOU here dear old scumbag dad laughing in background !
THE Link http://attendthisevent.com/Classic/?eventid=11140698 just copy and paste in your browser right clcik on where it says to save to your MP3 windows player FF halfway and YOU here him saying that he is trying to take legal action aginst me amd two others LMAO what did we do wrong ? WE told the truth as ithappend and many owners didnt make a dime from the ad rotation !
I will be happy when he shut down and stops robbing others !
MORE curious this E mail sent to old yahoo account on feb 22nd !
Bill - let's make a deal... can fund yoru card now
As per our conversation, I am having Laura fund your card $100.
After this payment has been shown as good faith payment of our intention
to pay you back, we would like you to help us ensure that we can continue
to pay you.
Please retract any posting that would stop our efforts and you will
receive your payments promptly each week. (you can resubmit this postings
IF we miss a payment)
Also any reports submitted to agencies, please submit a report that we are
paying yo back and you will report back to them if we do not comply.
Remember, if we miss a payment you have us under the gun by being able to
re-post and resubmit, so this is your insurance that we will pay.
By removing your current blog postings/comments and reporting that we are
int he process of refunding you to those agencies, this will help us
ensure that we stay in business long enough to pay you your money. This
has been hat has severely limited our growth as of recently and we are
launching our new marketing efforts this week and so much need to have
these removed in order to help ensure our growth and cash flow. So it
helps us ensure your pay back as well. Otherwise we all lose.
Agreed?
Robert
PS. we will do more as our cash flow comes back.
AINT COMING BACK i GUARANTEE it GONNA HIT him hard like a TON of Bricks !