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  • Report:  #351818

Complaint Review: Roscoe's BBQ Sports Bar And Grill

Roscoe's BBQ Sports Bar And Grill Nikola And Will Moore Agreed to a silent partnership then sold my liquor and beer then kept the money owe me $40,000.00 Phoenix Oregon

  • Reported By:
    portland Oregon
  • Submitted:
    Wed, July 16, 2008
  • Updated:
    Thu, April 02, 2009
  • Roscoe's BBQ Sports Bar And Grill
    117 S. Msin Street Phoenix Oregon
    Phoenix, Oregon
    U.S.A.
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These self proclaimed Christians told me they needed a break to open a BBQ business. I owned a fully stocked bar and grill, owned ALL the inventory and equipment and agreed to let them into MY business. Due to health issues I agreed to become the silent partner and they just had to bring in a BBQ. The agreement was mediated by the landlord and I signed over my lease. THE NEXT DAY the husband who ownes nothing due to back child support and taxes he is hiding from came in alone and told me they would not pay the agreed upon amount, that I owned NOTHING in the building and I was not a partner. I talked to the landlord (friend for 25 years) and he assured me that he would make sure they understood that this was legally binding and they had to make the monthly payments to keep the agreement. I then get a letter from an attorney stating I was banned from the property. The landlord FORGETS what the agreement was about (His wife is a prominate local attorney and he forgets?) and he is getting his rent so he wants to keep them happy and not force the agreement. Now they have thrown out some of my equipment, sold off thousands of dollars worth of liquid inventory and not paid me a penny!! They have bought a new Corvette though! I was the only "White boy" (the black guys words) to give a brother a break and he screws me to get his way! I then get contacted by another person that they have done this to and he wants to sue the hell out of them but that costs money and my entire retirement was in this business. Now my retirement savings is gone (retired from the military and a disabled vet) and they get it all. He even told me that this was his "reparations" from whitey and he was owed this because I was white (BUT he has a white wife, figure that). I was raised in East LA and know gangs (was in one as a kid) and he is no gang banger believe me, but he wants his and will take it from the one person willing to help a fellow Christian. I want my $40,000.00 and everyone to know what they did to me and others. I am going to take a polygraph and if there is any contract attorney that will pro-bono this I would appreciate it. There is more involved I cant discuss here but the publicity from this would be good for you due to others involved. I have lost a friendship and my retirement and am having to pay off business loans due to these so called Christians. I cant stand the feelings I have against blacks now and the anger I have against them. My faith in God and a good pastor have kept me from acting out, as I know they will be before God and he will send them to Hell for hurting a child of his. I will be there to see this and God forgive me, but I will laugh as they burn in the pits of Hell for all enternity. I know they tell others they did nothing wrong, but we all know what really happened and how much they have hurt the only man that reached out to help them. God forgive them, for I will never forgive this blatent disregard for their fellow man and their actions against his family.

Bubba
portland, Oregon
U.S.A.

4 Updates & Rebuttals


Minnesota Mike

Big Lake,
Minnesota,
U.S.A.

I don't belive "Bubba"

#5Consumer Comment

Wed, April 01, 2009

I have met Will and Nicola at Roscoes and belive them to be hard working, honest and sincere people. I also think that if "BUBBA" spoke a word of truth, he would have found an lawyer to represent him by now, and that by trying to discredit these good people by overshadowing the issue with race and religious slander.That just shows he is not the type of person he states he is. I also find it hard to belive someone who will accuse other people in this manor by name, but refuses to use his own. "Bubba's" report reminds me of the old saying "AN EMPTY WAGON MAKES THE MOST NOISE" and I honestly belive this to be true in ths case.


Ihearyou

Central Point,
Oregon,
U.S.A.

Just Found this RipOff site, Read this one, and want to help...

#5Consumer Comment

Tue, February 10, 2009

I was trying to find information relating to 'Roscoe's' as someone suggested going
to this restaurant in Phoenix. I happened to come across this 'RipOff' website, and
read what previous owner expressed. I then read other comments. I felt strongly
enough to send my comments - being a business owner of several successful
restaurants over the past 23 years. This was written about back in August, but
still felt compelled to add my opinion. I hope this gets read by the person who first wrote this complaint.

First of all, I feel for all involved there was even a problem. I will say, secondly, I would hope you had everything in writing. Verbal may seem great 'at the time', but when dealing with business, and even with friends, and a trusted landlord... it does not pay to not have all things 'spelled out' - in writing.

This is what concerns me with reading this. It sounds as if, in my opinion, there is more to it than what you put here. If one is talking numbers of $40,000, and one's retirement; it would only behoove one to get all the agreed understood by everyone. This apparently did not happen. The "Landlord did the mediating" was a questionable statement right there. If so, the landlord would have all in writing and would have been signed off on by you and the new tenants. It all 'boils' down to what is in writing. If you valued all this so much, and your retirement; you should have a lot in 'writing' to back up what was your agreement and understanding by you, the new tenants taking over the business, and your landlord. What do you have in writing? It should be for one - an agreement for the new tenants to take over the lease and payments. It should be a matter of the equipment (being yours) to be a separate signed agreement to purchase the business/equipment with a separate written document; since, from what it sounds like, they were not able to pay you $40,000 up front. If you do read this, I would be interested to hear what you have in writing. If you don't have this (what I previously stated); it is a matter of you being at a loss right there. (Seller beware.)

This is not a matter of a 'racial' issue. It does not matter whether one is black, white, red or blue. This was a business transaction. Whatever was verbally conveyed also about personal opinions does not matter. It is just personal. You are talking 'business' here; however, so stick with the business matter at hand.

I am not taking any side here. I just would like to hear what you conducted with the matters put in writing. Any attorney will start from there also, pro-bono or not. I am sorry for any animosities with all involved. I know how it is to have a deal gone 'sour'. I have learned also from mistakes. I feel for you here if this was a case of trusting. Let me know what was in writing...


Carl54

Ashland,
Oregon,
U.S.A.

Roscoe's Was Sold A Pig In A Poke

#5UPDATE Employee

Wed, August 06, 2008

Roscoe has kept his word from the very beginning. This man, and I use the term loosely, told all of us about new equipment, goodwill, business numbers, etc., and all proved to be inflated or outright lies. He got the money he asked for and then had seller's remorse. That's business, pal. Isn't it interesting that EVERYONE'S lying except him? Attorney's take cases on a contingent basis every day. The fact that he can't find an attorney to touch it speaks volumes. And the allegations that Roscoe EVER played a race card is ludicrous. Read between the lines of his report and you'll see a sad, bitter, racist, sniveling weasel.


Sid

MEDFORD,
Oregon,
U.S.A.

Roscoe's Owners are good people

#5Consumer Comment

Tue, August 05, 2008

I have the pleasure of doing business with Will and Nicola and have been doing so from the very beginning. These are nice caring people that work very hard. I am a business man and have been in business disputes in the past all of which were able to be settled using the court system and all settled amicably. I find much of your complaint to be racist. Basing any of your argument on race is unacceptable, and to say that you don't trust black people because of this transaction is outrageous, atrocious, heinous, monstrous, scandalous, shocking and and idiotic. I know nothing of your transaction but I do know contracts. If you made a bad one shame on you. If they breached one shame on them go to court figure it out. But to spew the venom you preach and call yourself a Christian is an offense to people of faith and comes across as nothing more then bigotry.

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