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Safe Driver Centre misleading service and faudulent delivery charges Bellaire Texas
I decided to take an on-line course with Safe Driver Centre (license: TSDCC- CP341/ CO 341). On the web-site, there is a $15.00 next day delivery option.
Under false pretenses, I paid the extra $15.00 and expected to receive my certificate of completion the next day after I finished. However, I did not receive my certificate the next day.
Now, I finished and passed the course on Wednesday, December 24, 2003, so therefore I naturally did not expect to actually receive my certificate on December 25, 2003. But I DID expect for my certificate to be delivered the following day on December 26, 2003.
When I did not receive it, I called and I talked to the owner, Robert Torres, who was extremely rude over the phone. He told me that the $15.00 Next day certificate delivery charge was not REALLY for the next day, but it meant that it would be mailed out on the next day.
Now first of all, on the day that I registered on December 15, 2003, the web-site stated that the standard was a next day mail out. However I paid an extra $15.00 for a next day delivery.
When I tried to explain this to the owner, Robert Torres, he first, kept cutting me off, then he actually hung up on me when I politely asked him not to cut me off when I am trying to explain to him my confusion. I even asked if I could come pick up my certificate, but he remained rude and patronizing.
I want a refund of the $15.00 next day delivery charge and a written apology from Robert Torres. I believe that this caliber of rudeness and lack of respect for consumers is a terrible way to do business.
Furthermore, I'd called before with technical questions (as the web-site indicates to do if you have any questions) and he was very condescending then as well. Below, I have pasted the exact page in which I received the misleading information that I will have next day delivery.
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Please double-check everything; it is the court's choice to accept or reject a certificate with a mistake. If your certificate is incorrect, the certificate will have to be voided and re-issued by the State of Texas at a cost to you of $10.00.
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The following section is for billing purposes. When you are done, you will have the option either to submit payment information securely over the web, or to print out the form and mail in payment.
Charges: $39.95 Online course charge
$15.00 Next day certificate delivery
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ONLINE COURSE POLICIES
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SAFE DRIVER CENTRE, hereinafter referred to as "school," hereby agrees to provide the undersigned parties, hereinafter referred to as "students," with six (6) clock hours of driving safety instructions upon receipt of the entire cost of the course. The cost of the course includes all required instructional materials where applicable. Any duplicate of the certificate of completion must be requested from the Texas Education Agency. To request one, call 512-997-6522 or 6523 or 6524.
PAYMENT & COURSE ACCESS POLICY: If payment is made by credit card you will receive instant access to login and begin taking the course. If payment is to be made by check or money order, the school will issue you a password via email upon receipt of payment.
REFUND POLICY: All tuition and fees are refundable under the following circumstances:
You cancel your course registration before midnight of the third day, excluding Saturdays, Sundays, and legal holidays,
and
You have not successfully completed the Course
or
Have not received a failing grade
or
The course of instruction is discontinued by the school, preventing a student from completing the course
or
The enrollment of the student was procured as a result of any misrepresentation in advertising, promotional materials of the school or course provider, or misrepresentation or misrepresentation made by an owner or employee of the school or course provider.
All refunds will be completed within 30 days after the date of enrollment termination. Form of refund will reflect original payment method (credit on a credit card and a refund check on payments made by cash or check).
No refund will be given to a registered student who attempts to circumvent the Course, violate any of the Course policies or attempts to violate its security or procedures. In such a case a failing grade will be given and no refund issued.
To request a refund, please click here to fill the Refund Request Form
INTERRUPTIONS IN SERVICE: Interruptions in course service may occur over which the school has no control. Interruptions in service may include but are not limited to interruption of service by your internet service provider (ISP), School internet service provider, electrical service provider or communications service provider. In the event of any interruption you may experience, please wait a few moments and try logging into the course again.
ATTENDANCE POLICY: You will be allowed 15 calendar days from the day you pay to finish the course. A student must attend the complete 6 clock-hour course including spending at least the minimum required time online in all phases of coursework of the approved school curriculum and final exam in order to receive a certificate of completion.
GRADING AND PROGRESS POLICY: A student will receive a failing grade in the Course if the student misses 16 course content questions.
A student may not be certified or given credit for a driving safety course unless a student scores 70% or higher on the final exam.
RULES OF OPERATION AND CONDUCT: A student or prospective student may be dismissed or barred from attending online courses for falsifying application data or failing to provide adequate online identification to ensure positive identification.
STUDENT ACKNOWLEDGMENTS: My name entered on the electronic form, in conjunction with other registration information and personal data, signifies that I have been furnished a copy of the school tuition schedule, cancellation and refund policy and school regulations pertaining to attendance, grading policy, progress and rules of operation and conduct.
I understand that Safe Driver Centre reserves the right to use third-party information such as Texas Dept. of Public Safety, Driver License, and Social Security Administration records in order to verify statements made in your application before issuing a Certificate of Completion. I understand that the information which I provide will be verified by multiple third party information sources including but not limited to driver license, payment information, information about the vehicle I drive most often and social security.
I realize that any grievances not resolved by the school and/or by Robert G. Torres Nin and/or Armida G. Torres, 5316 Bissonnet, Bellaire, TX 77401, may be forwarded to the Driver Training Section, Texas Education Agency, 1701 North Congress Avenue, Austin, TX 78701, telephone 512-997-6500.
GENERAL INFORMATION: The school is prohibited from issuing a certificate of completion if the student has not met all of the requirements for course completion and the student should not accept a certificate under such circumstances.
Online course material delivery is subject to service interruption due to communication problems. the school will provide high quality reliable internet web service, but is not responsible for other problems, such as telephone line difficulties.
The school may contact outside data vendors for the purpose of validating registration information. Other than that, no information gathered for or during this course will be made available to any other parties besides the school and State agencies, as required by law.
PRIVACY POLICY STATEMENT: At Safe Driver Centre, we value your privacy. Any information you provide us is strictly used for our internal purpose of identifying you and issuing a course completion certificate, and will not be shared with any third party.
This agreement constitutes the entire contract between the school and the student and no verbal assurances or promises not obtained herein shall bind the school or the student.
STUDENT ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS:
I acknowledge the minimum computer requirements for this course.
I acknowledge the refund policy as outlined above.
I acknowledge the information I provide will be verified by multiple third party information sources including but not limited to driver license, payment information, information about the vehicle I drive most often and social security.
I acknowledge the privacy policy for the school as outlined above.
I acknowledge that there may be interruptions in service.
I affirm that I understand the above policies, and upon registering for this course, I will be the one participating in the entire 6 hours of the course duration, including quizzes, the final examination and the evaluation.
I submit this registration and all of the above as being true.
Your presence and your participation in this course will be verified by you under oath. To validate your "CERTIFICATE OF COMPLETION" you will be required to affirm by/with your signature that you were present and that you personally interactively participated in the entire six hours Driving Safety Course. Note: false affirmations are grounds for a criminal felony conviction of TAMPERING WITH A GOVERNMENT DOCUMENT [Texas Penal Code, Chap. 37.10 (a5).d.] Such conviction is punishable by no more than 10 years or less than 2 years in prison, and /or a fine up to $10,000.00 maximum.
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Houston, Texas
U.S.A.
1 Updates & Rebuttals
Robert G. Torres Nin - Owner
Bellaire,Texas,
U.S.A.
Her unrealistic expectations, her inability to understand terms and her unwillingness to listen to reason prompted her posting of the complaint
#2REBUTTAL Owner of company
Thu, May 13, 2004
Rebuttal on the posted complaint made by Katrina F of Houston, Texas:
Date of registration for class:
12/17/2003
Date of Course completion: 12/24/2002 7:47 P.M. (Christmas' Eve)
Date of mailing of Certificate
12/26/2003
Date of delivery of Certificate
12/27/2003
This individual called and the rudeness commenced on her part by her tone of voice and her demands. I tried several times to explain the difference between MAILING and DELIVERING. She could not and or would not understand.
Her unrealistic expectations, her inability to understand terms and her unwillingness to listen to reason prompted her posting of the complaint. It clearly shows that she still does not understand.
She expected to receive her certificate the next day after she completed the course. She completed the course on Wed., 12/24/2003 at 7:47 P.M.
We state that we mail certificates on the next business day after completing the course. The next business day after her completion date was Fri., 12/26/2003, and her certificate was mailed on that day.
We state that we do not charge for the next day mailing and she was not charged for this. The State of Texas allow 21 calendar days for the mailing of the certificates and we mail them fast as a service to our students.
She wanted the certificate delivered overnight and paid for the extra service. The certificate was delivered overnight on Sat., 12/27/2003. This is an optional service.
She was mailed the certificate long before the State guidelines mandate at no extra charge and as stated, on the very next business day. Her certificate was delivered, as she paid for, on the next day after mailing.
This individual received all the services she paid for as we state in all of our advertising. There was absolutely no delay in the producing, mailing or delivery of her certificate.
In our 12+ years of teaching defensive driving, we have processed thousands of students. Students that have express their satisfaction with our course and service and are also very happy with our unique ability to produce and mail certificates on the same or next business day upon finishing our course and at no extra charge. Katrina Flowers simply could not understand the simple concepts of mailing and delivering and the difference between the two.
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