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  • Report:  #363502

Complaint Review: Schwans Foods

Schwans Foods trapped at schwans Oakdale California

  • Reported By:
    Modesto California
  • Submitted:
    Sat, August 16, 2008
  • Updated:
    Sat, May 30, 2009
  • Schwans Foods
    684 Hi Tech
    Oakdale, California
    U.S.A.
  • Phone:
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when I started working for this company last year I was told we had flexable hours yep they are flexable if you dont work today you will work this weekend on more than one ocasion I was told that if I wanted time off I needed to work extra days over the weekend.
When I realized that I was actually making less than the federal minimum wage I couldnt get any time to even look for a new job. So I am forced to stay with a company making less than my teen age Daughter with no time to search for a new job. After all 12 to 14 hrs a day doesnt leave much time for any thing other than work.

Edward
Modesto, California
U.S.A.

8 Updates & Rebuttals


Nick

Fargo,
North Dakota,
U.S.A.

work harder

#9UPDATE Employee

Sat, May 30, 2009

schwans is a great company to work for. it has taken me a year but i only work 4 days a week and get a 4 day weekend every other week. sure it takes hard work and long days,but the harder you work the more money you can make


Fabian

Atlanta,
Georgia,
U.S.A.

Sounds like you're the problem in your life.

#9UPDATE Employee

Thu, February 19, 2009

Get out of Schwan's! You are the only one that can make your problems go away so make a change. If you keep on doing what you've always done that you'll keep getting what you've always gotten and that's nothing! Wake up! You are the only person to blame for your issues.


Robert

Buffalo,
New York,
U.S.A.

HUH?

#9Consumer Comment

Wed, January 14, 2009

""Do a little commen sense calculating and you can easily figure out that if you are relatively new with Schwan's the you are making the equivilant of less than minimum wage. It's obvious you have been there for a while on your route or you took over a good route which means the person before you was either promoted or died.""

I don't work for Shwan's or anyone else for that matter. I'm self-employed since Dec 1996.

I have no idea what the author of this report does! That's why I ASKED?

Do some common sense READING of what I posted. Based on your report, it sounds like a sales/delivery type of position. So I still am wondering about the payscales. When I lived in CA there was a minimum wage, except for food servers and migratory crop pickers. I am wondering how Shwan's is able to legally avoid the California minimum wage.


Tunza

Tuscon,
Arizona,
U.S.A.

Schwans is crooked. I feel sorry for you

#9UPDATE EX-employee responds

Tue, January 13, 2009

I would never work for a company as crooked as Schwans.

check out (((RedACTED)))

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Fabian

Atlanta,
Georgia,
U.S.A.

This is for the last comment...

#9UPDATE Employee

Wed, January 07, 2009

Do a little commen sense calculating and you can easily figure out that if you are relatively new with Schwan's the you are making the equivilant of less than minimum wage. It's obvious you have been there for a while on your route or you took over a good route which means the person before you was either promoted or died. People don't leave Schwan's if they are making money on a decent route. But those routes are far and few between. In my depot there isn't but 2 decent routes left yet 9 years ago not one route did less than $2000 per day. Now a good day on those same routes are $500 - $700 per day. This can't all be blamed on the CSM either. CSM's do not get the training they are promised or told they would get. The LGM's are not on a truck showing them how to be successful. LGM's yell, scream and threaten CSM's to get the numbers they need for their depot so that they look good. And all this is done from the chair in the depot. The old days when a manager got on a truck with a CSM and showed them what to do is over. If a DGM forces an LGM to get on a truck you can bet your bottom dollar that LGM will spend 90% of his time in the truck on their cell phone. Last time I was force to have one ride with me when they shoulc have been with a new CSM on an abused route that LGM sat in the truck the entire day! He was useless then he insisted that we take an hour for lunch. I told him I don't stop at a sit-down resturant for lunch. I bing my lunch from home in a cooler and eat while I'm running my route hebc the reason I run over $2000 per day and make 125 stops per day. Now because of Schwan's faulty equipment I spend too much time sitting in tow trucks or waiting to have a tire replaced because they were too cheap to replace it when I told them it looked bad. Now, I get chased away from a lot of those "buy-everytime" customers because of outragously increasing prices, fuel-surcharges that do not go away when fuel prices go down like they were told, BS customer contest and promotions, not having the products they buy every two weeks for the last year on the truck, etc. So take all that and add it to an abused route with an enormous attrition rate and what do you expect the new CSM to do. I know now days to earn what I did years ago I must work longer hours to see more people. It's a numbers game! You can't just go to a door and take an order. You have to sell, sell new products, sell promo products, promote sale items for next trip, pre-order items for next trip, ask for referrals from friends, neighbors, co-workers, etc. Then you need to cloverleaf the neighborhood and knock on doors. If no answer then leave a flyer, brochure, your card, anything to setr up your next visit. Heck, sometimes a new customer will even call you and ask you to return that same day! But you must work! LGM's are not showing new CSM's how to do this and be successful and that';s because they don't know how to do it. If you are not willing to do this then don't bother applying for a CSM position with Schwan's. If you are not able to spend the first 8 weeks away from your family then this is not for you. Schwan's does not care about your family. All they want is a warm body in that truck seeing the few customers they have left.

I hope this helps keep a perspective employee from ruining their family, their marriage or their life!


Fabian

Atlanta,
Georgia,
U.S.A.

This is for the last comment...

#9UPDATE Employee

Wed, January 07, 2009

Do a little commen sense calculating and you can easily figure out that if you are relatively new with Schwan's the you are making the equivilant of less than minimum wage. It's obvious you have been there for a while on your route or you took over a good route which means the person before you was either promoted or died. People don't leave Schwan's if they are making money on a decent route. But those routes are far and few between. In my depot there isn't but 2 decent routes left yet 9 years ago not one route did less than $2000 per day. Now a good day on those same routes are $500 - $700 per day. This can't all be blamed on the CSM either. CSM's do not get the training they are promised or told they would get. The LGM's are not on a truck showing them how to be successful. LGM's yell, scream and threaten CSM's to get the numbers they need for their depot so that they look good. And all this is done from the chair in the depot. The old days when a manager got on a truck with a CSM and showed them what to do is over. If a DGM forces an LGM to get on a truck you can bet your bottom dollar that LGM will spend 90% of his time in the truck on their cell phone. Last time I was force to have one ride with me when they shoulc have been with a new CSM on an abused route that LGM sat in the truck the entire day! He was useless then he insisted that we take an hour for lunch. I told him I don't stop at a sit-down resturant for lunch. I bing my lunch from home in a cooler and eat while I'm running my route hebc the reason I run over $2000 per day and make 125 stops per day. Now because of Schwan's faulty equipment I spend too much time sitting in tow trucks or waiting to have a tire replaced because they were too cheap to replace it when I told them it looked bad. Now, I get chased away from a lot of those "buy-everytime" customers because of outragously increasing prices, fuel-surcharges that do not go away when fuel prices go down like they were told, BS customer contest and promotions, not having the products they buy every two weeks for the last year on the truck, etc. So take all that and add it to an abused route with an enormous attrition rate and what do you expect the new CSM to do. I know now days to earn what I did years ago I must work longer hours to see more people. It's a numbers game! You can't just go to a door and take an order. You have to sell, sell new products, sell promo products, promote sale items for next trip, pre-order items for next trip, ask for referrals from friends, neighbors, co-workers, etc. Then you need to cloverleaf the neighborhood and knock on doors. If no answer then leave a flyer, brochure, your card, anything to setr up your next visit. Heck, sometimes a new customer will even call you and ask you to return that same day! But you must work! LGM's are not showing new CSM's how to do this and be successful and that';s because they don't know how to do it. If you are not willing to do this then don't bother applying for a CSM position with Schwan's. If you are not able to spend the first 8 weeks away from your family then this is not for you. Schwan's does not care about your family. All they want is a warm body in that truck seeing the few customers they have left.

I hope this helps keep a perspective employee from ruining their family, their marriage or their life!


Fabian

Atlanta,
Georgia,
U.S.A.

This is for the last comment...

#9UPDATE Employee

Wed, January 07, 2009

Do a little commen sense calculating and you can easily figure out that if you are relatively new with Schwan's the you are making the equivilant of less than minimum wage. It's obvious you have been there for a while on your route or you took over a good route which means the person before you was either promoted or died. People don't leave Schwan's if they are making money on a decent route. But those routes are far and few between. In my depot there isn't but 2 decent routes left yet 9 years ago not one route did less than $2000 per day. Now a good day on those same routes are $500 - $700 per day. This can't all be blamed on the CSM either. CSM's do not get the training they are promised or told they would get. The LGM's are not on a truck showing them how to be successful. LGM's yell, scream and threaten CSM's to get the numbers they need for their depot so that they look good. And all this is done from the chair in the depot. The old days when a manager got on a truck with a CSM and showed them what to do is over. If a DGM forces an LGM to get on a truck you can bet your bottom dollar that LGM will spend 90% of his time in the truck on their cell phone. Last time I was force to have one ride with me when they shoulc have been with a new CSM on an abused route that LGM sat in the truck the entire day! He was useless then he insisted that we take an hour for lunch. I told him I don't stop at a sit-down resturant for lunch. I bing my lunch from home in a cooler and eat while I'm running my route hebc the reason I run over $2000 per day and make 125 stops per day. Now because of Schwan's faulty equipment I spend too much time sitting in tow trucks or waiting to have a tire replaced because they were too cheap to replace it when I told them it looked bad. Now, I get chased away from a lot of those "buy-everytime" customers because of outragously increasing prices, fuel-surcharges that do not go away when fuel prices go down like they were told, BS customer contest and promotions, not having the products they buy every two weeks for the last year on the truck, etc. So take all that and add it to an abused route with an enormous attrition rate and what do you expect the new CSM to do. I know now days to earn what I did years ago I must work longer hours to see more people. It's a numbers game! You can't just go to a door and take an order. You have to sell, sell new products, sell promo products, promote sale items for next trip, pre-order items for next trip, ask for referrals from friends, neighbors, co-workers, etc. Then you need to cloverleaf the neighborhood and knock on doors. If no answer then leave a flyer, brochure, your card, anything to setr up your next visit. Heck, sometimes a new customer will even call you and ask you to return that same day! But you must work! LGM's are not showing new CSM's how to do this and be successful and that';s because they don't know how to do it. If you are not willing to do this then don't bother applying for a CSM position with Schwan's. If you are not able to spend the first 8 weeks away from your family then this is not for you. Schwan's does not care about your family. All they want is a warm body in that truck seeing the few customers they have left.

I hope this helps keep a perspective employee from ruining their family, their marriage or their life!


Robert

Buffalo,
New York,
U.S.A.

What do you do?

#9Consumer Comment

Sat, August 16, 2008

What do you do at Schwans Foods that they can get away with paying you below the California minimum wage?

What do your payslips state is your hourly wage???

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