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  • Report:  #63815

Complaint Review: Scrap In A Snap

Scrap In A Snap ripoff fraud business Lehi Utah

  • Reported By:
    Port Washington Wisconsin
  • Submitted:
    Wed, July 16, 2003
  • Updated:
    Mon, August 04, 2003
  • Scrap In A Snap
    1359 East Main Street
    Lehi, Utah
    U.S.A.
  • Phone:
    866-462-7627
  • Category:

Attention: All Women who are considering a part-time career in direct sales for a scrapbooking company. Here's the story about Scrap in a Snap. They are a MLM direct sales company that sells scrapbook supplies through independent consultants at home parties. They're business model is similiar to other direct sales companies like Mary Kay, Avon, Creative Memories, Southern Living at Home, etc. However, these other companies that are mentioned (Mary Kay, Avon, Creative Memories, Southern Living at Home are very respectable, honorable companies and do not in any way operate their business like Scrap in a Snap).

Scrap in a Snap claims to have approximately 12,00 consultants selling their products in the US. Most of these consultants have been taken advantage of by this company and ripped off for a long time. If you are a current consultant or considering signing up as a consultant, you need to know what they are doing - BEWARE! Hopefully, the IRS and/or some of the state consumer protection division offices will be shutting them down soon.

1. They send bad checks to their consultants.
Scrap in a Snap, for the past several months will send out checks to their consultants that can not be cashed. These consultants try to cash their checks and the checks come back as NSF. This is a violation of state law and some of these violations are felonies.

2. Failure to pay earned commissions.
Scrap in a Snap, will determine who they will and will not pay depending upon what they feel like doing. There are a number of consultants who haven't been paid owed commissions in a number of months. Further, every consultant has a contract with the company. This doesn't matter to Scrap in a Snap. If they don't feel like paying a consultant their earned commission, it won't be paid.

3. They will hold checks on select consultants. If you become a successful consultant with Scrap in a Snap, you can expect that your commission check will be sent weeks after other consultants have received theirs. Some consultants have been treated like this for months and months. Then, when they do receive their commission checks, they usually are NSF anyways.

4. They have purposely mis-calculated commission checks. There is information that the company has paid on occasion a lower commission rate to consultants than their contract dictates. They then hide this fact from their consultants. The commission calculation process is a bit complex so most consultants don't even know when they are being ripped off.

5. Consultants are not paid all of their earned commissions. Scrap in a Snap has been known to just not pay consultants certain types of commissions, when owed. For example, if a customer calls the company directly and places an order - many consultants have reported to have never received a commission for the sale to their customer. This is contrary to their contract and another scam by the company.

6. CREDIT CARD FRAUD!!!
Consultants have reported that they place an order, are then charged for the order on their credit card, but often do not receive the order until months later. This is an obvious violation of Federal Trade Commission rules. Further, consultants also report that if they place an order and some of the items are out of stock, they are not credited the difference back onto their credit card. Instead, the consultant is given a store credit only, called "Scrappy Bucks". For example, if you place and order for $100 and only $20 of product is in stock (which is often the case). You're credit card will be charged $100 and you'll receive $20 in actual product and $80 in "Scrappy Bucks". They don't even have the courtesy of putting products on back order or only charging you for what you receive. This is a total scam and I believe highly illegal. If this happens to you, contact your credit card provider at once.

7. STATE SALES TAX FRAUD!!!
Every consultant signs a contract stating that Scrap in a Snap will take all state sales tax money and send this money directly to each state that the consultant is registered in. Scrap in a Snap has already received the appropriate state sales tax from the consultant directly. However, Scrap in a Snap has never paid their state sales tax proceeds back to the state - and this has gone on for a number of years. The only state that is believed they are even registred in with a seller's permit is UT. They are ripping off not only every single consultant, but also the other 49 states by not paying these states their owed state sales taxes. I don't know, but the states may go after individual consultants because of the gross fraud of this company. Don't let yourself be in this situation. Further, many consultants have already reported this action to their individual states. If you are concerned about this, you are encouraged to call your state department of revenue and have this company investigated for tax evasion.

8. TERMINATION OF CONSULTANTS FOR NO REASON!!!
The company must be in dire straits. They actually have employees who peruse private message boards such as Yahoo! message boards and look for any consultant who questions this company and how they run their business. If Scrap in a Snap doesn't like what you say about the company, they will terminate you as a consultant immediately. No questions asked.

9. FEDERAL TAX FRAUD!!!
This information can't be 100% confirmed, but insiders have said that the company hasn't paid their federal payroll taxes for their employees - we have no idea how long this has been going on. Further, insiders have also said that the company itself and the president of the company hasn't filed federal income taxes in a number of years. Obviously, if true, this would be critical violation of federal law.

Don't be victimized by working with such an unethical company. Scrap in a Snap does not run their business honestly and we all need to take action to get them to shut their doors. They have taken advantage of way too many people. Don't become their next victim! If you are a consultant, you are encouraged to call your state attorney general's office and the state department of revenue to file a complaint about their actions.

Kris
Los Angeles, California
U.S.A.

16 Updates & Rebuttals


Marie

Salt Lake City,
Utah,
U.S.A.

From An Industry Insider...

#17Consumer Suggestion

Sun, August 03, 2003

I am heavily involved in the Scrapbook industry as a wholesaler. I talk to other wholesalers all the time and I must say that what is happening is damaging the entire direct sales industry. Wholesalers are aware of the SIAS/LP battle and now this tax scandal and they laugh about it. They think it's ridiculous, immature and downright amusing. It makes the whole ML Direct Sales/Home-based part of the scrapbook industry look like a bunch of idiots. Many of us will no longer work with the Direct Sales companies - we're sick of all the problems that come with dealing with them.

I do wish that SIAS would not be quite so publicly defensive in their responses to their problems. How about a BIG apology to their consultants and a promise that it will be fixed IMMEDIATELY? All we have seen so far is defensiveness, fingerpointing and intimidation. The best damage control they could do right now is to hire a person with a business/PR background who will answer the criticisms in a professional and mature manner instead of threatening to start a street fight with anyone who dares to cross them. Randy is doing more harm than good. I suggest someone take away his keyboard.

Shaking my head over this whole issue and the ridiculous junior high manner in which it is being handled...


Kent

Sandy,
Utah,
U.S.A.

That answers my question Thanks

#17Consumer Suggestion

Sun, August 03, 2003

d**n!! How does it feel to watch any credibility you may have had go flying out the window!
But at least my Questions of honesty have been answered. I initially was neutral, towards scrap in a snap. As of now my interest has been peaked. Let me state I do not work for scrap in a snap.
So I can not be threatened or controlled, now im not sure if that was a threat it looked like one but I cant be sure. Witch would support some of the claims made by others on these posts. Now if I was a scrap in a snap hostess I might be a little concerned. But im not, im a pissed off consumer advocate with an attitude. Im sick of watching people mostly women being taken to the cleaners by one MLM scam or Another. Being promised the whole cake then getting only a few crumbs while draining badly needed funds from families that could be better used elsewhere. I believe whole heartedly these companies that prey on people should be taken out and horse whipped. So now on to my next question what do you think you could tell me in private that would rebutte what the editor of this site has already made clear to tens of thousands of readers.just in case you missed it

Editor's Comment

Rip-off Report would NEVER gave out that kind of info! EVER! We do not give any info out, period!! Randy must be trying to scare you! Don't let him fool you.

You lied about obtaining the IP address so what else has been Falsely stated.


Jolene

Cleveland,
Ohio,
U.S.A.

Quit Using Scare Tactics - You Can't Trace An IP Address From Here!

#17Consumer Suggestion

Fri, August 01, 2003

Threats of termination and lawsuits are what this company is all about when it comes to their consultants speaking out or even questioning the problems associated with this company. This is the perfect example of that.

You can't trace the IP address of someone posting on this site. Quit trying to censor and threaten your consultants from speaking out about the problems with this company.

If anyone says anything negative about Scrap in a Snap they are threatend or even terminated.

They even have job positions in this company where people spy on all the message boards to make sure no one is questioning any of the problems they are having.

How pathetic is that job!!!!!! If someone simply posts a question asking something like if the rumors about them paying their taxes or true or not, they are immediately banned from the message board and sent a threatening e-mail stating they will be terminated.

ANYTHING that is posted on the message board other than praise for the company is treated this way.

They try to keep all of their consultants isolated from the truth and boy do they love to threaten consultants that ask the real questions or try to speak out about their negative experiences.

This guy Randy who posted the eloquent rebuttal, LOVES to threaten lawsuits against the 1st amendment, he obviously doesn't know that there is a right to free speech.


Jolene

Cleveland,
Ohio,
U.S.A.

Quit Using Scare Tactics - You Can't Trace An IP Address From Here!

#17Consumer Suggestion

Fri, August 01, 2003

Threats of termination and lawsuits are what this company is all about when it comes to their consultants speaking out or even questioning the problems associated with this company. This is the perfect example of that.

You can't trace the IP address of someone posting on this site. Quit trying to censor and threaten your consultants from speaking out about the problems with this company.

If anyone says anything negative about Scrap in a Snap they are threatend or even terminated.

They even have job positions in this company where people spy on all the message boards to make sure no one is questioning any of the problems they are having.

How pathetic is that job!!!!!! If someone simply posts a question asking something like if the rumors about them paying their taxes or true or not, they are immediately banned from the message board and sent a threatening e-mail stating they will be terminated.

ANYTHING that is posted on the message board other than praise for the company is treated this way.

They try to keep all of their consultants isolated from the truth and boy do they love to threaten consultants that ask the real questions or try to speak out about their negative experiences.

This guy Randy who posted the eloquent rebuttal, LOVES to threaten lawsuits against the 1st amendment, he obviously doesn't know that there is a right to free speech.


Jolene

Cleveland,
Ohio,
U.S.A.

Quit Using Scare Tactics - You Can't Trace An IP Address From Here!

#17Consumer Suggestion

Fri, August 01, 2003

Threats of termination and lawsuits are what this company is all about when it comes to their consultants speaking out or even questioning the problems associated with this company. This is the perfect example of that.

You can't trace the IP address of someone posting on this site. Quit trying to censor and threaten your consultants from speaking out about the problems with this company.

If anyone says anything negative about Scrap in a Snap they are threatend or even terminated.

They even have job positions in this company where people spy on all the message boards to make sure no one is questioning any of the problems they are having.

How pathetic is that job!!!!!! If someone simply posts a question asking something like if the rumors about them paying their taxes or true or not, they are immediately banned from the message board and sent a threatening e-mail stating they will be terminated.

ANYTHING that is posted on the message board other than praise for the company is treated this way.

They try to keep all of their consultants isolated from the truth and boy do they love to threaten consultants that ask the real questions or try to speak out about their negative experiences.

This guy Randy who posted the eloquent rebuttal, LOVES to threaten lawsuits against the 1st amendment, he obviously doesn't know that there is a right to free speech.


Randy

Salt Lake City,
Utah,
U.S.A.

Or.. (See EDitor's Note Below, this is NOT True!)

#17UPDATE Employee

Fri, August 01, 2003

The Mighty Kentster,

Or you could simply email ripoffreport.com at info@RipOffReport.com explain to them that I am the security advisor for scrap in a snap, And that proprietary information is being posted on a public forum and that I need the IP address from the original post to investigate the claim, So there you go champ! that's how I did it. And since you live in Sandy and I live in Salt Lake, maybe we could meet and discuss this in private?


Kent

Sandy,
Utah,
U.S.A.

Just wondering how you traced The I.P

#17Consumer Suggestion

Fri, August 01, 2003

Greetings
This post concerns the Credability of randy on weather or not he is telling the truth
Just Wondering how You Traced An IP Address. Off an Annonomous Post.

Before you Start Trying to Blow Smoke.
Ive Been At This Game A long Time. The Rippoffreport.com could do this Easily its there board for some one else to do it they would first have to at least know the E-mail address that was used meaning they would have to hack the site download the data base without getting Caught but then why would you need the IP you would have the address. i can trace an IP from any site that sends an E-mail to me or any IP if I have the address or even if some one is on line in a chat room or if someone tries to enter my computer but to pull an ip out of thin air BullS%$t first you would need to be a phycic there is no way you pulled an ip from two words Kris in California


Kent

Sandy,
Utah,
U.S.A.

Just wondering how you traced The I.P

#17Consumer Suggestion

Fri, August 01, 2003

Greetings
This post concerns the Credability of randy on weather or not he is telling the truth
Just Wondering how You Traced An IP Address. Off an Annonomous Post.

Before you Start Trying to Blow Smoke.
Ive Been At This Game A long Time. The Rippoffreport.com could do this Easily its there board for some one else to do it they would first have to at least know the E-mail address that was used meaning they would have to hack the site download the data base without getting Caught but then why would you need the IP you would have the address. i can trace an IP from any site that sends an E-mail to me or any IP if I have the address or even if some one is on line in a chat room or if someone tries to enter my computer but to pull an ip out of thin air BullS%$t first you would need to be a phycic there is no way you pulled an ip from two words Kris in California


Kent

Sandy,
Utah,
U.S.A.

Just wondering how you traced The I.P

#17Consumer Suggestion

Fri, August 01, 2003

Greetings
This post concerns the Credability of randy on weather or not he is telling the truth
Just Wondering how You Traced An IP Address. Off an Annonomous Post.

Before you Start Trying to Blow Smoke.
Ive Been At This Game A long Time. The Rippoffreport.com could do this Easily its there board for some one else to do it they would first have to at least know the E-mail address that was used meaning they would have to hack the site download the data base without getting Caught but then why would you need the IP you would have the address. i can trace an IP from any site that sends an E-mail to me or any IP if I have the address or even if some one is on line in a chat room or if someone tries to enter my computer but to pull an ip out of thin air BullS%$t first you would need to be a phycic there is no way you pulled an ip from two words Kris in California


Kent

Sandy,
Utah,
U.S.A.

Just wondering how you traced The I.P

#17Consumer Suggestion

Fri, August 01, 2003

Greetings
This post concerns the Credability of randy on weather or not he is telling the truth
Just Wondering how You Traced An IP Address. Off an Annonomous Post.

Before you Start Trying to Blow Smoke.
Ive Been At This Game A long Time. The Rippoffreport.com could do this Easily its there board for some one else to do it they would first have to at least know the E-mail address that was used meaning they would have to hack the site download the data base without getting Caught but then why would you need the IP you would have the address. i can trace an IP from any site that sends an E-mail to me or any IP if I have the address or even if some one is on line in a chat room or if someone tries to enter my computer but to pull an ip out of thin air BullS%$t first you would need to be a phycic there is no way you pulled an ip from two words Kris in California


Randy

Salt Lake,
Utah,
U.S.A.

RE: Smoke usually indicates fire

#17UPDATE Employee

Thu, July 31, 2003

Tim..I mean Gregg, I hardly think my rebuttal was a "character assassination" As stated earlier I will not post a reply to ever single allegation this sad lady posted. But if you are a concerned SIAS employee then by all means email me privately and we can discuss the difference between truth and fiction.

Good Day


Gregg

Fresno,
California,
U.S.A.

Smoke usually indicates fire

#17Consumer Comment

Wed, July 30, 2003

Kris may very well be a bitter ex-consultant just like Randy says. Whom better to turn over this carcass and let us see the rotting under-belly?

Now, let's see, out of nine very specific allegations of criminal and civil violations Randy refuted, ah..., well...---OK, well email him and see if he can. He could not or would not do so on this site where the allegations were levied.

Shoot, at least, he did do a hell of a job of character assassination. Hey, Randy, how 'bout describing some more of the bitter old nags that work for you? You know you waaaaana.


Gregg

Fresno,
California,
U.S.A.

Smoke usually indicates fire

#17Consumer Comment

Wed, July 30, 2003

Kris may very well be a bitter ex-consultant just like Randy says. Whom better to turn over this carcass and let us see the rotting under-belly?

Now, let's see, out of nine very specific allegations of criminal and civil violations Randy refuted, ah..., well...---OK, well email him and see if he can. He could not or would not do so on this site where the allegations were levied.

Shoot, at least, he did do a hell of a job of character assassination. Hey, Randy, how 'bout describing some more of the bitter old nags that work for you? You know you waaaaana.


Gregg

Fresno,
California,
U.S.A.

Smoke usually indicates fire

#17Consumer Comment

Wed, July 30, 2003

Kris may very well be a bitter ex-consultant just like Randy says. Whom better to turn over this carcass and let us see the rotting under-belly?

Now, let's see, out of nine very specific allegations of criminal and civil violations Randy refuted, ah..., well...---OK, well email him and see if he can. He could not or would not do so on this site where the allegations were levied.

Shoot, at least, he did do a hell of a job of character assassination. Hey, Randy, how 'bout describing some more of the bitter old nags that work for you? You know you waaaaana.


Gregg

Fresno,
California,
U.S.A.

Smoke usually indicates fire

#17Consumer Comment

Wed, July 30, 2003

Kris may very well be a bitter ex-consultant just like Randy says. Whom better to turn over this carcass and let us see the rotting under-belly?

Now, let's see, out of nine very specific allegations of criminal and civil violations Randy refuted, ah..., well...---OK, well email him and see if he can. He could not or would not do so on this site where the allegations were levied.

Shoot, at least, he did do a hell of a job of character assassination. Hey, Randy, how 'bout describing some more of the bitter old nags that work for you? You know you waaaaana.


Randy

Salt Lake City,
Utah,
U.S.A.

continuation of a sad game

#17UPDATE Employee

Tue, July 29, 2003

After reading this vile rant, I have come to the conclusion that some people can not be helped. I call this a rant because that's exactly what it is, It is not a truth based helpful story It is a bitter former consultant who is disappointed that the company is growing in leaps and bounds. I am assured there is no "Kris" from California, As soon as I started reading this, I began to research the source and I have been able to match the IP address that sent this message to a very bitter consultant who left on bad terms with the company, But the reason she left was not because of any of the numerous imaginativeness reasons she propagated in this slanderous attempt at retribution. It was because she was a bully to other consultants, and felt that she had more power then anyone in the company, and that simply was not true. So please if you are reading this and find yourself wondering if anything in this is true simply email me at Randy@scrapinasnap and I will answer all emails personally and truthfully. As always in life it is better to get the truth from someone who knows as opposed to someone who only knows there distorted sad story.

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