Complaint Review: Selby Danes

Maybe you did not read what your wife wrote here are two quotes from her first email:

"We have learned through contacting previous owners that this is not the only litter to get sick. An entire litter has died from parvo before this one".

"half of the litter was covered in feces and about half had dew claws that were only half clipped".

These are serious accusations that were made and your wife clearly says that you contacted the previous owners.

Are you aware your wife has been on numerous websites using different names and saying some pretty ugly things about this breeder?

As a rescue I take all accusations of animal cruelty seriously and will follow up on this accusation, all I am saying is once the authorities walk in the door of this persons home, then you have opened yourself to some deep doo-doo so you might want to make sure of the following accusations made on this web site and many others.

She is a puppy mill

She has litters that have contracted disease, they puppies were not seen by a vet which would constitute neglect, and the puppies died because of this neglect.

The animlas Dew Claws are mangled

They are living in filth and feces

Also, the only thing mentioned about waiting a week was to wait a week to pick up the puppy after it has been treated and is ready to go to a home.

If you agreed to a contract and did not get a copy, well then that is a lesson in life for you.

I do not care if she sues you or not, I do care about the well being of animals and if you in fact seen them in the condition that your wife has stated and did not do anything to help them, then you do not deserve to own an animal, that is my opionon and I am allowed to have one just as much as you are.

KristineT, We are happy to hear that your puppies are healthy and doing well.  After all, this all started in concern for the puppies.

KristineT, We are happy to hear that your puppies are healthy and doing well.  After all, this all started in concern for the puppies.

Perhaps you did not comprehend what my wife wrote or pehaps did not care because none of your accusations make any sense. 

We told the breeder we did not want to continue with the transaction approximately 20 minutes after she told us they were sick and that two of the puppies had died.  We did not wait and decide a week later.  If this is hard for you to understand I appologize.  I gave the breeder my contact information to pass to her attorney and would be more than happy to speak with them, but have not been contacted as she said I would be.  We also told our kids we were not getting the puppy the minute we decided against it. (Not that my parenting is any of your business.)  I do love my animals and take them regularly to a vet.  I refuse to purchase an already sick animal whose siblings had already died.  The diseases that the breeded disclosed are contagious and can pass to other animals even if the carrier has been treated, therefore I did not want to risk the animals already a part of my family becoming ill. (Please explain how this is not showing concern or love for animals.) 

Slander is false accusations with no evidence.  Let's go over what we know to be true to best of our knowledge:

1. The puppies were sick with two diseases.  The breeder disclosed this information via a telephone converstation.

2. Two of them died.  The breeder disclosed this information via the same converstation.

3. She told us they did not have Parvo. <-- We clearly stated that we were told that another puppy died of parvo by another buyer who contacted us, not visa versa.  So this to the best of our knowledge is factual and stating so is of no legal consequence.

4.  We called the humane society and they reffered us to another organization.

5.  The breeder blamed the vet for mal practice; again via the telephone conversation and at that point we believed her and wished her luck with the health of her puppies.

6.  We were contacted, information was disclosed to us about a puppy and other puppies from the same litter.  One of the buyers also stated the reason for not being able to see the puppies in the kennel/home is because a whole litter previously died of parvo.

7.  We had to request a copy of the contract MULTIPLE times and it was sent to us after we told the breeder we did not want to purchase the puppy.  We signed NO PAPER WORK.  The puppy was supposed to be registered with the AKC prior to us even picking him up and he had not been yet.  He was posted again for adoption and it was stated he was still "registerable", implying he was not yet.

We believe we are doing the right thing about making people aware of what happened to us and other people.  If they choose to purchase puppies no one is stopping them and they will not be harrassed by us.  AGAIN, this is purely to state our experience and to pass on information that was given to us by other buyers from the same litter.. as is the point of this site.

I clearly understand my rights to speak freely what I believe to be true and factual.  For iteration, some is information told to us by other buyers from the same littler.  It was also told to us that the dogs were not registered with the AKC by someone who contacted the AKC which we are also currently checking.

I respectfully state; You accuse us of not loving animals; but our concern is purely for the animals, and yours is obviously for the breeder.  Hypocrisy only goes so far.  We will continue to pray for all of the puppies that are still alive to have good health and live long lives.

And for the record, I am perfectly fine with not receiving my deposit returned to me.  I am very happy that I only lost 600 dollars and not 2500 dollars and who knows how much more in vet fees.  600 dollars is nothing compared to the health of the animals.  If it was about the money we would have already pursued legal action to recoup our deposit.

Happy Holidays.

 Hi, I bought two puppies from MaLisa.  While we were told that they had Giardia and Coccidia prior to getting them, we have no record of them having Parvo.  They had a knuckling issue but that is common among great dane puppies and most likely due to them being sick with Giardia and Coccidia.  Since then, both puppies are doing great and are healthy.  The knuckling issue has gone away.  So to dispell the rumors, our two puppies are alive and well and do not have Parvo.

Once again, I did not contact anyone who purchased a puppy, they contacted me. And I clearly stated on my first AND second update that I had no proof of Parvo because that is what I was told by them. I also state that it is not I was told the puppy had by MaLisa. I have told about my experience and what others have said to me that they are going through. I have not set out to spread lies.

If it does not make sense it typically is not true. For one being an animal rescue I know that Parvo typically does not come from the breeder but from people who want to show off the new family member before it has been vaccinated, Parvo is highly contagious, if you have chosen to harass the people that have bought from this breeder you are just opening yourself up to more liability, it's your money. Clearly if you loved animals and deserved to have one in your life and the puppies were in the condition you stated when you met them you would have taken action at that time, it is inconceivable that you would consider going on with such a transaction for an abused, neglected animal, you do not make sense. I do hope that instead of being patient for another week and explaining to your children that these things happen YOU did not make the choice to devastate your children, slander an innocent person and make a menace of yourself. You very easily could have waited until the treatment by the vet was complete, picked up the puppy, taken it to your vet before you introduced it to your animal, that is what I do with all animals I bring into my home no matter what anyone says, I will not take the chance, especially if they were covered in feces and were surgically mangled. I will be contacting the local Humane Society on Monday to report your claim (which I clearly believe is false) and I will ask that there is a case number generated this will either prove you right or it will give the breeder the open door to sue you, I hope you have a good lawyer!

If it does not make sense it typically is not true. For one being an animal rescue I know that Parvo typically does not come from the breeder but from people who want to show off the new family member before it has been vaccinated, Parvo is highly contagious, if you have chosen to harass the people that have bought from this breeder you are just opening yourself up to more liability, it's your money. Clearly if you loved animals and deserved to have one in your life and the puppies were in the condition you stated when you met them you would have taken action at that time, it is inconceivable that you would consider going on with such a transaction for an abused, neglected animal, you do not make sense. I do hope that instead of being patient for another week and explaining to your children that these things happen YOU did not make the choice to devastate your children, slander an innocent person and make a menace of yourself. You very easily could have waited until the treatment by the vet was complete, picked up the puppy, taken it to your vet before you introduced it to your animal, that is what I do with all animals I bring into my home no matter what anyone says, I will not take the chance, especially if they were covered in feces and were surgically mangled. I will be contacting the local Humane Society on Monday to report your claim (which I clearly believe is false) and I will ask that there is a case number generated this will either prove you right or it will give the breeder the open door to sue you, I hope you have a good lawyer!

We were told we had to make a deposit and then we were allowed to see the dogs. Most breeders will allow you to go see the kennels when purchasing a puppy yet we were told we had to meet her at a park. Once we saw the puppies, we made no more deposits. When it came closer to the time of completing the transaction and picking up our puppy, we were told by the breeder that the dogs were sick with giardia and coccidia and that two of the puppies had died already. Then she reassured us that it was not Parvo. We then made the decision to not purchase the puppy because we did not want our other dane sick. She also never even mailed us the contract until after we had decided against the purchase.

It was not until after our mishap with this breeder that we were contacted by other buyers asking about the health of our puppy because theirs were sick, diagnosed with congenial diseases, and some had died of Parvo. We told them that we did not go through with the purchase because our puppy was sick.

You have no idea what our family has been through with this ordeal. We have been preparing for this puppy's arrival since last February when we first contacted MaLisa. Our children were in the car with his new toys and leash ready to go get our new baby when she told us we couldn't come because he got sick and the others died. I am not trying to "slander" anyone, I just want others to be warned of our experiences. To my knowledge, everything on here is truthful and comes from the people who have purchased these puppies.

I am not obligated to include any actions I have taken in notifying any organizations regarding this matter.

I am confused, you met the seller and the dew claws were mangled and the litter was covered in feces and they would not invite a total stranger into their home yet you made the choice to put a deposit down on a puppy anyway? I have been informed that the puppies need some additional vet care before they can go to their forever homes and I do not feel that is a huge issue. It is very clear on the website that all deposits are non-refundable. It seems to me that you may have changed your mind and do not like the rules that were clearly stated before you put your money down. I do hope they do not give you an animal under any circumstances, if you made the choice to purchase an animal that you felt was in deplorable conditions instead of contacting the humane society then you are just as guilty as those you are making accusations about. I do hope you are not just bitter and making ugly accusations about this person or you may find yourself in court for slander.

I was told by MaLisa that the puppy we were buying had Giargia and Coccidia. I only know through what other owners who went through with the sale have said, that those dogs had Parvo. I have not had the puppy in my care to have it tested myself so I do not have a vet record stating that the dogs had Parvo.

I have no proof that the dogs had parvo, that is merely what I was told by other people who purchased a puppy when I did not.