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Complaint Review: Shih Tzu Palace Puppies - Barbara Becker

Shih Tzu Palace Puppies - Barbara Becker Owner/Breeder Dog breeder agreed to give me a puppy in exchange for my champion line stud. Now, refuses to give me a puppy. Westminster South Carolina

  • Reported By:
    Middle America Kentucky
  • Submitted:
    Thu, January 03, 2008
  • Updated:
    Tue, May 13, 2008
  • Shih Tzu Palace Puppies - Barbara Becker
    105 Cedar Knob Trail
    Westminster, South Carolina
    U.S.A.
  • Phone:
    270-972-9687
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Ms. Barbara Becker, Owner/Breeder, Shih Tzu Palace Puppies, Westminster, SC, agreed to give me an AKC registered female shih tzu puppy in exchange for my AKC champion bloodline stud. She did not have any puppies at the time, so she asked me to go ahead and sign over my stud's papers to her, so she would be able to register any puppies when they were born. In good faith, I gave her the stud's registration papers, pedigree papers and DNA certificate, along with pictures of the stud, Koko, as she requested, and never heard any more from her.

My stud, Koko, was at my friend's house when Ms. Becker first saw him. My friend told her I wanted to find Koko a new home and that he had an awesome, champion bloodline. She said she would love to have him. My friend called and told me Ms. Becker would love to have Koko, and would I take a puppy in place of him. I asked several questions about Ms. Becker, and they were answered to my satisfaction. I even spoke to Ms. Becker myself, and asked her some specific questions, to make sure Koko would have a good home. It was during that conversation that she asked me to go ahead and give her all of the papers, and that when there were puppies, I would get one. I stressed that my puppy would have to be a "female AKC" and she agreed.

After a few months I found out that Ms. Becker had two new litters. I checked her web site and there were several puppies listed, and Koko was listed as her new champion bloodline AKC stud. I thought it a little odd that she hadn't called me to let me know that Koko had sired puppies. I sent her an email asking her to contact me choosing my puppy. No answer. I emailed again, plus I called and left a voice mail, asking her to call me. No answer. My friend also tried to reach her. No answer.

I sent Ms. Becker an email again, telling her which puppy on her web site that I liked, and asked her, again, to call me so we could work out me getting my puppy. I looked at her web site again, and that puppy was no longer listed. There was a blank space where the puppy's picture had been. I thought that was pretty strange. She then emailed me and told me that the reason she hadn't gotten back to me was that she "didn't trust me." I was stunned! She made an accusation that she thought I had abused Koko because he couldn't climb steps, and that she had been out vet bills on him. Koko had never been sick or injured and had never been abused. Two of my breeder friends verified that Koko had no problems prior to Ms. Becker getting him.

I was worried now that I had lost my Koko to this breeder who had not intention of holding up her end of the deal. I had been taken. I felt so bad, for myself and for Koko. I wanted to get out of this mess as soon as possible and get my Koko back. I offered to come and get Koko and give her the $300 she said she had in vet bills. She refused to let me have him back.

I reported Ms. Becker to the Better Business Bureau and she denied to them that she had accused me of abusing Koko. She told them that the vet told her he probably had arthritis. The stories were changing. I just wanted to get Koko back.

I still do not have Koko back and I have not received a puppy. I have not heard from Ms. Becker. The problem has not been resolved, yet.

I suggest to anyone reading this, that you know more about the person you do business with when it comes to dog breeders. I have known and dealt with a lot of wonderful dog breeders and I fault myself for being naive and so trusting of others. I stand by my word and I expect others to do the same. I guess from time to time these things occur in all types of hobbies and business ventures. And, we have to learn by our mistakes. I hate it that getting burned makes me more cynical. My shih tzu friends have always been so much fun. This is the first time I have ever had anything like this happen in 18 years of dog breeding. I continue to enjoy my dogs and I still love meeting new shih tzu lovers and breeders. Hopefully, these types of occurences will be few and far between.

Have a good day and luv your shih tzus. They are the best breed there is!

Muchado About Puppies
Middle America, Kentucky
U.S.A.

13 Updates & Rebuttals


Muchado

Bowling Green,
Kentucky,
U.S.A.

I Would Love To Have Koko back

#14Author of original report

Tue, May 13, 2008

I do want Koko back. I would love to have him back. I will send my friend from NC to get him anytime, and will give Ms. Becker her $100 back that we negotiated thru the BBB. I really regret all of this and would love to turn the clock back. I made a mistake letting him go. I feel sad for Koko and I know he misses his home that he had for so long. I want to let all of this go, too.

I am not sure what words were said or not said that set all of this in motion. But, when untrue statements were made about me, I had to respond. I do not even know Ms. Becker and she doesn't know me. I am an honest person, have never been into big time breeding. And, I hear Ms. Becker say she hasn't either. We have both been hurt over this bickering. The last person I remember bickering with was my brother when we were children, and I am tired of acting as I did back then.

Ms. Becker says her husband is a dialysis patient, and with me being an oncology RN Care Coordinator, I deal with patients and families daily that are going thru serious chronic illnesses, and that alone is enough to deal with, without having additional stress over a dog.

If Ms. Becker will let me have Koko back, he will get to come home, and all of this will be over. I am excited over the possibility of turning back the clock.

Ms. Becker, please accept my apologies about the many unkind words, and please let me have Koko back. He will get to sleep with us again, and play with our grandsons. They still ask about him. Our fourteen year old grandson went with us to get him in Virginia while his mom and dad were going thru a divorce, and held him all the way home. He would be very excited, as would the other boys. I made a mistake, and I have made it worse keeping this going. I am sorry.


Muchado

Bowling Green,
Kentucky,
U.S.A.

I Would Love To Have Koko back

#14Author of original report

Tue, May 13, 2008

I do want Koko back. I would love to have him back. I will send my friend from NC to get him anytime, and will give Ms. Becker her $100 back that we negotiated thru the BBB. I really regret all of this and would love to turn the clock back. I made a mistake letting him go. I feel sad for Koko and I know he misses his home that he had for so long. I want to let all of this go, too.

I am not sure what words were said or not said that set all of this in motion. But, when untrue statements were made about me, I had to respond. I do not even know Ms. Becker and she doesn't know me. I am an honest person, have never been into big time breeding. And, I hear Ms. Becker say she hasn't either. We have both been hurt over this bickering. The last person I remember bickering with was my brother when we were children, and I am tired of acting as I did back then.

Ms. Becker says her husband is a dialysis patient, and with me being an oncology RN Care Coordinator, I deal with patients and families daily that are going thru serious chronic illnesses, and that alone is enough to deal with, without having additional stress over a dog.

If Ms. Becker will let me have Koko back, he will get to come home, and all of this will be over. I am excited over the possibility of turning back the clock.

Ms. Becker, please accept my apologies about the many unkind words, and please let me have Koko back. He will get to sleep with us again, and play with our grandsons. They still ask about him. Our fourteen year old grandson went with us to get him in Virginia while his mom and dad were going thru a divorce, and held him all the way home. He would be very excited, as would the other boys. I made a mistake, and I have made it worse keeping this going. I am sorry.


Barbara

Westminster,
South Carolina,
U.S.A.

Ms. C is confused

#14REBUTTAL Individual responds

Sun, May 11, 2008

I am not a "big time breeder." I have three little girls that have puppies (usually only once a year).

I was told by the BBB that I had to pay a fee for the sevices. If that was wrong, than I guess I was wrong. I also did not want to get into a "she-said she-said" match with Ms. C.

Koko has the run of our house too. He plays well with the other dogs and loves my husband and I. He cuddles with us all of the time. He does not like strangers, ot other women. Ms. C had told me that she kenneled him in her laundry room when she went out. We don't even do that. The only time any of my babies are kennelled is when the girls are in heat or when they have babies. Then they are put in kennels for safety sake when we are not home.

I never received a "voice-mail" from Ms. C as I don't subscribe to that type of service. The first time I ever heard that she even wanted one of my CKC pups was when she brought it up to the BBB.

I do not advertise his puppies as having any type of "impressive pedigree." I never even heard of the kennels she is talking about.

Yes, I have him, as well as my other male listed for stud services, but have never studded them out. It is a service I offer as part of being a Preferred Breeder with the CKC.

I just wish she would stop all of this nonsence. She did not want Koko any more, so what is the big deal. If she had wanted him, she wouldn't have sent him off to North Carolina in the first place.

Please drop this mess, Ms. C.


Barbara

Westminster,
South Carolina,
U.S.A.

Ms. C is confused

#14REBUTTAL Individual responds

Sun, May 11, 2008

I am not a "big time breeder." I have three little girls that have puppies (usually only once a year).

I was told by the BBB that I had to pay a fee for the sevices. If that was wrong, than I guess I was wrong. I also did not want to get into a "she-said she-said" match with Ms. C.

Koko has the run of our house too. He plays well with the other dogs and loves my husband and I. He cuddles with us all of the time. He does not like strangers, ot other women. Ms. C had told me that she kenneled him in her laundry room when she went out. We don't even do that. The only time any of my babies are kennelled is when the girls are in heat or when they have babies. Then they are put in kennels for safety sake when we are not home.

I never received a "voice-mail" from Ms. C as I don't subscribe to that type of service. The first time I ever heard that she even wanted one of my CKC pups was when she brought it up to the BBB.

I do not advertise his puppies as having any type of "impressive pedigree." I never even heard of the kennels she is talking about.

Yes, I have him, as well as my other male listed for stud services, but have never studded them out. It is a service I offer as part of being a Preferred Breeder with the CKC.

I just wish she would stop all of this nonsence. She did not want Koko any more, so what is the big deal. If she had wanted him, she wouldn't have sent him off to North Carolina in the first place.

Please drop this mess, Ms. C.


Barbara

Westminster,
South Carolina,
U.S.A.

Ms. C is confused

#14REBUTTAL Individual responds

Sun, May 11, 2008

I am not a "big time breeder." I have three little girls that have puppies (usually only once a year).

I was told by the BBB that I had to pay a fee for the sevices. If that was wrong, than I guess I was wrong. I also did not want to get into a "she-said she-said" match with Ms. C.

Koko has the run of our house too. He plays well with the other dogs and loves my husband and I. He cuddles with us all of the time. He does not like strangers, ot other women. Ms. C had told me that she kenneled him in her laundry room when she went out. We don't even do that. The only time any of my babies are kennelled is when the girls are in heat or when they have babies. Then they are put in kennels for safety sake when we are not home.

I never received a "voice-mail" from Ms. C as I don't subscribe to that type of service. The first time I ever heard that she even wanted one of my CKC pups was when she brought it up to the BBB.

I do not advertise his puppies as having any type of "impressive pedigree." I never even heard of the kennels she is talking about.

Yes, I have him, as well as my other male listed for stud services, but have never studded them out. It is a service I offer as part of being a Preferred Breeder with the CKC.

I just wish she would stop all of this nonsence. She did not want Koko any more, so what is the big deal. If she had wanted him, she wouldn't have sent him off to North Carolina in the first place.

Please drop this mess, Ms. C.


Barbara

Westminster,
South Carolina,
U.S.A.

Ms. C is confused

#14REBUTTAL Individual responds

Sun, May 11, 2008

I am not a "big time breeder." I have three little girls that have puppies (usually only once a year).

I was told by the BBB that I had to pay a fee for the sevices. If that was wrong, than I guess I was wrong. I also did not want to get into a "she-said she-said" match with Ms. C.

Koko has the run of our house too. He plays well with the other dogs and loves my husband and I. He cuddles with us all of the time. He does not like strangers, ot other women. Ms. C had told me that she kenneled him in her laundry room when she went out. We don't even do that. The only time any of my babies are kennelled is when the girls are in heat or when they have babies. Then they are put in kennels for safety sake when we are not home.

I never received a "voice-mail" from Ms. C as I don't subscribe to that type of service. The first time I ever heard that she even wanted one of my CKC pups was when she brought it up to the BBB.

I do not advertise his puppies as having any type of "impressive pedigree." I never even heard of the kennels she is talking about.

Yes, I have him, as well as my other male listed for stud services, but have never studded them out. It is a service I offer as part of being a Preferred Breeder with the CKC.

I just wish she would stop all of this nonsence. She did not want Koko any more, so what is the big deal. If she had wanted him, she wouldn't have sent him off to North Carolina in the first place.

Please drop this mess, Ms. C.


Muchado

Bowling Green,
Kentucky,
U.S.A.

UPDATE

#14Author of original report

Tue, May 06, 2008

Responding to Ms. Becker saying I am just out to make money on my dogs. Wrong! I only have 3 shih tzus in my house, and none anywhere else. I do not kennel, nor have I ever kenneled! I have not even had a litter of puppies in over a year. Ms. Becker says she couldn't afford to go to mediation with the Better Business Bureau. I WAS paying for the mediation, and it was going to be doing on a telephone conference call. It would have cost here nothing. Ms. Becker made a comment in her prior posting that I only wanted AKC so why did I try to contact her over one on her web site that was CKC. I didn't know how it was registered. I told her that on a voice mail and in a couple emails. I told her to call me back, that I wanted to know how it was registered, that I thought it was cute and might want it as per our verbal agreement that I would get a puppy.

Ms. Becker makes numerous comments about Koko's trust problems and how he doesn't want to play with toys. I'm sure he doesn't trust her. Koko was never caged, never locked in a room or garage, and in no way was he ever kenneled, neglected or abused. He lived in my home, had run of the house, could lounge around on our sofas, on one of his doggie beds, or wherever he pleased. He never wanted to play with toys very much. He would lay and watch the others play. If they nibbled at him, he would walk away. Just because he didn't bite and chew on toys all the time has nothing to do with how he was treated. She keeps talking about her veterinarian working thru the many issues as if he is her personal "dog whisperer". If she or anyone else wants a list of my many references, just let me know. I stay in contact with the folks that have ever bought a puppy from me. This is the only shih tzu that I have ever placed in anyone's home, that I no longer have contact with.

At first, I didn't know why Ms. Becker wouldn't answer any of my emails or phone calls. It didn't take me long to figure out. She had a new stud with multiple champion bloodlines, from the Millie White breeding program, and Konalani Breeding Kennel in Hawaii and California. She had acquired him and has been making money off of him. She is even advertising his $300 stud fee. I am not the one making any money. Ms. Becker is the one making money. She said I only wanted a puppy in exchange so I could sell it......well, yes, what was wrong with that. I have a friend at work that wanted a puppy, and I hadn't had any in a year. I told her a lady in SC owed me a puppy and she could have it. I had to go back and tell her I had been scammed.

Also, it is nothing to Ms. Becker if I want to have 3 or 4 or 5 shih tzus in my house. My husband and I do not want to be overrun with dogs. We are not in a big breeding business like Ms. Becker. Any breeding I do has been sporatic. There is nothing wrong with retiring one of your shih tzus. She acts as if I sent him to the dog pound. Koko was with a trusted friend of mine, who was going to help me find him a home. I was hoping to ask a minimal fee for someone that might want him to be their loving pet. I told my friend I was even considering giving him to anyone that she thought really wanted one and if she thought they would really, really love him. Then Ms. Becker came along and said she wanted to breed him because of his impressive pedigree. I agreed to let Ms. Becker have him, but not free if she wanted breeding rights, which she did. She agreed to give me a puppy, no matter what she says. She agreed to give me a female AKC puppy. Absolutely she agreed, and she knows it. She told my friend the same thing. I have all of this in writing and in emails.

I will let this go, and will not continue this dialogue, but if Ms. Becker says I do not tell the truth again, I will respond. I have not lied. I do not lie. Ms. Becker ended up the winner with MY champion bloodline dog. I never said he was a champion. He does has more than a few champions in his bloodline. I have papers on him for 7 generations, and there are hundreds. And, don't believe Ms. Becker's explanation about a computer glitch removing a puppy from her web site the very minute after I asked about the puppy. I know how to format web sites, and analyze how someone formats theirs. After I copied and pasted onto a notepad from her web site, I could click and drag one of her puppies, and there it was underneath another puppy. It didn't just happen! Now, who is telling the truth here. Ms. Becker is wiggling her way into a corner here.


Barbara

Westminster,
South Carolina,
U.S.A.

Paulette is just out to make trouble

#14REBUTTAL Individual responds

Sat, May 03, 2008

Ms. C---- is still out there trying to make trouble for us little breeders.

No, I did not want to go to mediation, because I could not afford the fee and time for travel. I have a husband in dialysis, who needs my help. I was not afraid of the decision. I knew that once I presented my copies of emails where Ms. C---- states that she was getting rid of him because she did not want to breed black anymore and that her husband only wanted three dogs in the house, that the mediator would see it my way.

Retiring a stud or a dam is one thing, making profit off of a dog that you already made profit from is another. If you don't want to love and give a "forever" home to a dog, don't get one. Maybe other breeders just shuffle these poor animals around, but I could never do that. Dogs have feelings just as humans do. How would Ms. C---- feel if her husban (or parents before him) decided that she was not a "good breeder" and just got rid of her because the children she produced had the wrong color hair?

Koko is not a champion. He may have it in his background (many dogs do, even some mutts), but that does not make him or his offspring a champion. He is a sweet little pet to us. Poor little thing does not even know how to play with toys. He is learning to play with the other dogs in my home. He is uncomfortable with grooming still, and shy around strangers. Was he kept in a kennel all of the time?

It is obvious to me that he was just a money maker for Ms. C----, or she would not still be trying to sully my reputation this way. Why don't you put it to a rest. I would have if you had not gone so far. I guess I need someone to look out for my rights.


Muchado

Bowling Green,
Kentucky,
U.S.A.

Learned My Lesson

#14Author of original report

Fri, May 02, 2008

I have bred shih tzu puppies for many years and my integrity has never been questioned. I always stand by my word and expect the same of my friends and associates. I made the mistake of letting Ms. Becker have my stud and his registration papers without having her signature on a contract that she would give me a puppy.

Ms. Becker has not faced any losses in this situation. She is not a victim. I am the one that lost on the deal. Ms. Becker has my $1000 champion bloodline stud and his AKC papers, and I have nothing. When Ms. Becker refused to answer my emails or phone calls I asked the Better Business Bureas to help me reach Ms. Becker. I asked the the BBB mediator to help us resolve the dispute. Ms. Becker refused to go before the BBB mediator, because she knew that the mediator's decision was legally binding. She had my $1000 dog and I had nothing. I faxed a copy of the papers where I paid $1000 for the dog to the BBB. Ms. Becker told another breeder she would give me a puppy for the dog, and I have a statement and her emails to prove it. Ms. Becker told the BBB she would agree to give me $100 if I would drop everything.

I decided to write this off as a lesson learned rather than take Ms. Becker to court over a dog, and I agreed to take the $100. Ms Becker says I gave her the dog because I didn't want him. For any resonable person, think about this, if were letting her have the dog as a "gift", why would she insist I sign over his breeding rights, if she just wanted him as a "pet"? If a breeder retires a stud she will usually give it to a friend, without his papers. And, if a breeder lets another breeder have a prize stud with papers, she will get another dog or cash payment in return. That only makes sense. She can't explain herself out of this one. She has a champion line stud she advertises as having an "impressive pedigree". She told the BBB I was scamming "her". What does it sound like to you? A scammer is someone that gets "something for nothing" fraudulently. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and looks like a duck it is a "duck". Who do you think was scamming who?


Barbara

Westminster,
South Carolina,
U.S.A.

Paulette Clardy files reports that are untrue

#14REBUTTAL Individual responds

Fri, May 02, 2008

She has been harassing me with her unfounded complaints. She has contacted Hoobly (a web advertising site), the Continental Kennel Club, and the American Kennel Club, and you trying to make ME look bad and to cause me trouble.

I never promised her a puppy of any kind. She never sent me Koko's health paperwork, DNA certificate, nor the obedience training certificate she claimed to have. Koko is a very sweet little boy, but has many problems with trust. We are working through that with our vet.

She never contacted me about any specific puppy, but when she contacted the BBB, she mentioned one of my CKC puppies, not an AKC puppy. She seemed to just want a puppy to either breed or sell.

I never lied about removing a puppy's picture. If the picture was "hidden" under another, it was because of a computer glitch. As soon as I discovered the error, I fixed it, and not because she said anything or because I was trying to hide anything. I don't understand why she keeps going on about that one female as she repeatedly states that she wants an AKC female puppy and mine are CKC, especially that one.

Her threat to take "further action," is abominable. I did not steal her dog. She gave him away because she no longer wanted to breed that color. She has stated that her husband won't let her have more than 3 dogs. She only wants one of my puppies to sell and she only wants the male in question to sell/give away again.

I sent her money through Pay Pal to end this. I will not give her a puppy as I have no idea what will happen to it if I do.

Please help me to end this harassment.


Barbara

Westminster,
South Carolina,
U.S.A.

Paulette Clardy files reports that are untrue

#14REBUTTAL Individual responds

Fri, May 02, 2008

She has been harassing me with her unfounded complaints. She has contacted Hoobly (a web advertising site), the Continental Kennel Club, and the American Kennel Club, and you trying to make ME look bad and to cause me trouble.

I never promised her a puppy of any kind. She never sent me Koko's health paperwork, DNA certificate, nor the obedience training certificate she claimed to have. Koko is a very sweet little boy, but has many problems with trust. We are working through that with our vet.

She never contacted me about any specific puppy, but when she contacted the BBB, she mentioned one of my CKC puppies, not an AKC puppy. She seemed to just want a puppy to either breed or sell.

I never lied about removing a puppy's picture. If the picture was "hidden" under another, it was because of a computer glitch. As soon as I discovered the error, I fixed it, and not because she said anything or because I was trying to hide anything. I don't understand why she keeps going on about that one female as she repeatedly states that she wants an AKC female puppy and mine are CKC, especially that one.

Her threat to take "further action," is abominable. I did not steal her dog. She gave him away because she no longer wanted to breed that color. She has stated that her husband won't let her have more than 3 dogs. She only wants one of my puppies to sell and she only wants the male in question to sell/give away again.

I sent her money through Pay Pal to end this. I will not give her a puppy as I have no idea what will happen to it if I do.

Please help me to end this harassment.


Barbara

Westminster,
South Carolina,
U.S.A.

Paulette Clardy files reports that are untrue

#14REBUTTAL Individual responds

Fri, May 02, 2008

She has been harassing me with her unfounded complaints. She has contacted Hoobly (a web advertising site), the Continental Kennel Club, and the American Kennel Club, and you trying to make ME look bad and to cause me trouble.

I never promised her a puppy of any kind. She never sent me Koko's health paperwork, DNA certificate, nor the obedience training certificate she claimed to have. Koko is a very sweet little boy, but has many problems with trust. We are working through that with our vet.

She never contacted me about any specific puppy, but when she contacted the BBB, she mentioned one of my CKC puppies, not an AKC puppy. She seemed to just want a puppy to either breed or sell.

I never lied about removing a puppy's picture. If the picture was "hidden" under another, it was because of a computer glitch. As soon as I discovered the error, I fixed it, and not because she said anything or because I was trying to hide anything. I don't understand why she keeps going on about that one female as she repeatedly states that she wants an AKC female puppy and mine are CKC, especially that one.

Her threat to take "further action," is abominable. I did not steal her dog. She gave him away because she no longer wanted to breed that color. She has stated that her husband won't let her have more than 3 dogs. She only wants one of my puppies to sell and she only wants the male in question to sell/give away again.

I sent her money through Pay Pal to end this. I will not give her a puppy as I have no idea what will happen to it if I do.

Please help me to end this harassment.


Barbara

Westminster,
South Carolina,
U.S.A.

Paulette Clardy files reports that are untrue

#14REBUTTAL Individual responds

Fri, May 02, 2008

She has been harassing me with her unfounded complaints. She has contacted Hoobly (a web advertising site), the Continental Kennel Club, and the American Kennel Club, and you trying to make ME look bad and to cause me trouble.

I never promised her a puppy of any kind. She never sent me Koko's health paperwork, DNA certificate, nor the obedience training certificate she claimed to have. Koko is a very sweet little boy, but has many problems with trust. We are working through that with our vet.

She never contacted me about any specific puppy, but when she contacted the BBB, she mentioned one of my CKC puppies, not an AKC puppy. She seemed to just want a puppy to either breed or sell.

I never lied about removing a puppy's picture. If the picture was "hidden" under another, it was because of a computer glitch. As soon as I discovered the error, I fixed it, and not because she said anything or because I was trying to hide anything. I don't understand why she keeps going on about that one female as she repeatedly states that she wants an AKC female puppy and mine are CKC, especially that one.

Her threat to take "further action," is abominable. I did not steal her dog. She gave him away because she no longer wanted to breed that color. She has stated that her husband won't let her have more than 3 dogs. She only wants one of my puppies to sell and she only wants the male in question to sell/give away again.

I sent her money through Pay Pal to end this. I will not give her a puppy as I have no idea what will happen to it if I do.

Please help me to end this harassment.

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