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Siam Star Muay Thai / Tomer Litvin Tomer Litvin LIAR! cheats people out of their money, manipulates them into signing contracts, half a** coach Allen, Texas
When I started training in MMA I started at North Dallas Brazilian Jiu Jitsui with JD Shelly and Tomer Litvin. Apparently Tomer is such a poor and cheap a** that JD split off from him and Tomer started his own gym in Allen TX. One can assume that its because Tomer started lying and stealing from JD and his clients money because thats the kind person this low life does. Besides being a half a** coach that doesn't know s**t about what he's doing or MMA training (which he claims he's been doing for years, but really he's been manipulating for years), he gets his clients to sign an over priced, year contract where there is no way you can get out of it and he is un-willing to even work with you if something in your life is to arise. I was told when I first signed this contract with Tomer, that if I moved a certain distance or couldn't continue payments that he would freeze or even cancel my membership. About a few months into my contract I moved over 40 miles out of the area for work and it would be difficult for me to make it to his schedule classes. Not that I was getting anything out of it anyway. You can get a better "training" from a cardio kick boxing class at any LA fitness, 24 hour fitness or Golds gym! I had a VERBAL conversation with Tomer about canceling my membership and he said that it wouldn't be a problem and that I wouldn't have to continue my contract. Thinking I could trust what he SAID he would do I went on my way. That was stupid on my part and I should have got it in writing. Thinking nothing of it and that I could trust him and what he PROMISED ME I moved away and didn't think anything about it.
Over 3 YEARS later I got hit with a law suit over this cheap, dumb a** suing me for the balance of the contract AND he taxed on ridiculous amounts of fees and charges that make NO sense what so ever. The charges are so stupid and insignificant that it blows me away on how someone could be so freaking cheap. What kind of "professional" coach sues his own clients? Its amazing that he's stayed in business this long. The kind of people Tomer targets are kids 18 & 19 years old and in their early 20s. This explains how he is able to cheat and manipulate them into signing the contract and lying to them to their face that the contract is only for "technical" purposes. He is a disgrace to the sport and an embarrassment. I even referred several people over to him when he was with JD Shelly as North Dallas Brazilian Jiu Jitsui. I feel very sorry for them and what they are going to go through and experience with this d****ebag.
Tomer lives up to the stereotypical (((REDACTED LANGUAGE))). Besides cheating people out of their hard earn money, his gym is way over priced! There are dozens of other LEGITIMATE MMA training schools in the DFW area that are not only reasonably priced and cheaper but also have PROFESSIONAL coaches with NO contracts and are flexible and willing to work with your schedule and finances. Not Tomer, he'll steal and take advantage of you at every chance he can get. His classes are weak, he doesn't know what the f**k he's doing as a coach and constantly LIES and MANIPULATES his clients about the sport. His whole gym is worthless and I strongly encourage people to stay far away from Tomer and ANYTHING he is affiliated with. He is a selfish, self riotous (((REDACTED LANGUAGE))) that doesn't care about his clients except for their money that he feels he is entitled too.
I have heard the same situation happen to a few other guys at different MMA training places that have experienced the same situation I did. I am taking a stand and starting a campaign for everyone to know what kind of low life this cheap punk really is.
SIAM STAR MUAY THAI IS THE WORST GYM! TOMER LITVIN NEEDS TO PUT OUT OF BUSINESS! DO YOUR SELF A FAVOR AND DO YOUR RESEARCH ON OTHER GYMS AND STAY FAR FAR AWAY FROM SIAM STAR MUAY THAI!
3 Updates & Rebuttals
Andy
Mckinney,Texas,
United States of America
Satisfied Student
#4Consumer Comment
Tue, June 12, 2012
I have been a student at Siam Star off and on for six years. I originally signed a one year agreement and canceled it with no problems within the stated time frame. I went on a month to month agreement at a slightly higher rate and canceled that no problem. I am partial to the friends I have made over the years at Siam Star. When I saw the negative juvenile report it shocked me.
I know Tomer and he has always been willing to work with me and any friends I have referred to him. Siam Star has a great group of guys training there and a new very nice facility. I will continue to think very highly of this gym and feel comfortable recommending it to friends and family. The reason I felt the need to write was the tone of the complaint. The person who wrote this lost all credibility the minute he started with the school yard bully language.
Tomer Litvin
United States of AmericaSome more info from the owner!
#4REBUTTAL Owner of company
Wed, March 21, 2012
I can also confirm that there are no law suits going on against anyone of my clients who owe money on their account as confirmed by my billing company.
The above report is a total lie.
Tomer Litvin
United States of AmericaWell, hello there mad customer.
#4REBUTTAL Owner of company
Wed, March 21, 2012
My name is Tomer Litvin and I am the owner and head instructor of Siam Star Muay Thai and Mixed Martial Arts located in Allen, Texas.
What we have here seems to be a case of someone who is mad because they did not stand to their part of the deal when they signed in to train with my martial arts school. This happens every once in a while and as a business owner I always try to be honest and helpful to my customers and students.
In my gym we offered several kinds of memberships where the per month cost to train would go down the longer you decide to train with us. We offered anything from a month to month membership and up to a 12 months membership.
Sometimes, a person will come to train and decide to go with the 12 month membership because it is offered at a lower per month cost. They train a couple of months and then get lazy and decide not to show up anymore and not to pay anymore even though they have committed to a term.
As the author of the complaint states, he has moved away and could not train. We DO NOT make customers pay if they move away and can't come to class. That is just reason. We do, however require that they will provide us with PROOF OF NEW ADDRESS. The reason we do that is because people will simply lie and tell you they are moving just to get out of their commitment.
Would Honda let you out of a lease just because you don't drive your leased Civic from them anymore?
The above complainer probably did not supply proof of new address. Therefore my billing company reported him to the credit bureaus and eventually sent his account to collections.
People seem to not stand up for what they committed to and when eventually it comes and bites their behinds they get mad and end up writing a report on ripoffreport.com using bad language, bad spelling, lies (blaming me for stealing from JD) and racial slurs. Just reading the complaint will tell you what kind of person you are dealing with.
I would be happy to answer any questions anyone have and refer you to current and past members of my training facility who will tell you about how honest, reasonable and friendly person I am.
To sum it up, stand up for your commitment or learn to spell.