Report: #57665

Complaint Review: SJM & Associates - A Brach Off Of Acentura Creations

SJM & Associates/A Brach Off Of Scentura Creations Deceived me deceptive company Pensauken New Jersey

Reported By:

— marco island Florida
Submitted:

Tue, May 20, 2003
Updated:

Tue, July 24, 2012

SJM & Associates - A Brach Off Of Acentura Creations

Westfield Avenue, Pensauken NJ

Pensauken, New Jersey

United States of America
Phone:

856-317-0606
Category:

Employers

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: 350 pages of evidence against Scentura and World Perfume *UPDATE EX-employee responds: 350 pages of evidence against Scentura and World Perfume *UPDATE EX-employee responds: 350 pages of evidence against Scentura and World Perfume *Consumer Comment: It's not that complicated

Hmmm....Where shall I begin. It all started with an ad in the paper for office help. At this point of time I was in desparate need of a job. So I went for an interview I spoke to the "regional manager" whose name will be left unsaid but I will say that he is a tall, dark gentleman with a head the size a beachball.

During the interview he asked me what position i was applying for, i responded and told him the receptionist position. And with out knowing me from a can of paint he said that i have way to much potential and believes i would be great at the manager position i had available. As naive as i am i said wow that sounds just peachy!He told me that he will make his final descsion and get back to me by 530 that evening.

Which he did and i gotaccepted for the position. To make a long story short, i was with SJM and associates for almost a year. Not a week like most of the people that write about this company.

There are a total of 8 badges you need to complete before "training" is over. Which is:1/2 Trainee, Full- Way Trainee, 1/2 Trainer, Full Way Trainer, Asst. Manager, Manager, Senior Manager. After your finished with your badges is when you start making "serious" cash.

Which is a bunch of crap. You have to turn in $20 during training, after that, you still have to turn in $20 but your settle up is $11. Meaning you get $9 per bottle you sell. So say in one week you sell 40 bttls, you make $360. Which doesn't sound that bad. But allow me to tell you some reason why making $360/wk is not that simple.A) considering the fact that Scentura Creations doesn't have a permit this is considered SOLICITATION - which they say it's not but it is.

So if your in a shopping center selling these cheap bottles of perfume and the cops find out what your doing guess what you can get a ticket, who do you think is going to pay that ticket...YOU! B)If you are in charge of a trip and you find out that someone stole some of the merchandise who do you think is going to pay for it-YOU! C) if you set your box of merchandise down and some a*****e steals it..who do you think is going to pay for it-YOU!!!

Would you like to know why Marc, Carol,Donny and Chris make so much money? It's b/c they are constantly making promises and keep us motivated until we get tired of the s**t and quit and then they find MORE people to do the same f***ing thing. Not only did I lose money, but i wasted time, i was harassed by men, i was stressed out, tired because i ate, slept and s**t the business and didn't have an ounce of time to myself.

More people quit than stick and that's whyy there is sooooo much money at the top. But guess what...you will never get there. Im not being negative, just honest. Guess what you have ot have an education. Since than i became a mortgage broker and probably make more money than my boss ever will, not only that but im happy.

Jessica marco island, Florida
U.S.A.

4 Updates & Rebuttals

AndyRod2906

Fort Worth TX,
United States of America

It's not that complicated

#5Consumer Comment

Tue, July 24, 2012

A lot of people come onto these complaint boards to slam Scentura, or the office that recruited them, or the product, etc.

It's really not that complicated... You're given a product that you don't have to pay for until after you sell it. Then you're taught how to sell it. It's a numbers game, just see the people. Not a very exciting or glamorous way to sell something, but it works. Companies all across the country are using this sales strategy. It's called Direct Sales, and it's not illegal. Warren Buffett recently bought a direct sales company (The Pampered Chef).

Once you're strong in the field, you train others and run sales trips. This is a microcosm of running an office. Learn to run a sales trip and manage money/merchandise for 3 or 4 people, then move onto running an office with 20 or more people, and thousands in money/merch.

After you've learned to run teams and trips, you learn the administration and recruiting.

Then you get a shot to run you're own deal. That's all there is to it.

It's not a job, it's a chance to learn a business FOR FREE. It's a chance to have someone else fund the opening of YOUR business. And yes, they make money when you open your office. Which is why they are invested in your success. This is why they start new groups every week. The more people they can teach this business and get them into their own office, the more money they make. That's how you know their desire to help you succeed is for real, that's how you know they're not lying to you - YOU WILL GET YOUR OWN OFFICE if you finish training.

Every owner pays the same price on the merchandise. There are people who have only been open a couple years that are making more money than people who've been doing it 5 years. It's not a pyramid, it's a level playing field. Everyone has the same opportunity to open their own office and promote out new owners. The margins and the opportunity to make money are the same, whether you've been around for 20 years, or you're brand new. And doesn't it make sense to work in an environment where everyone around you actually wants you to succeed, versus secretly hoping you fail so you don't take their job? You decide.

If it's not for you, don't do it. The way people talk on these scam boards, they act like someone held a gun to their head and made them do it. And I'd be willing to bet they were NEVER ONCE told they'd receive a salary, an hourly wage, or any other set pay during training or when they open. More likely, they were given income PARAMETERS. Which means if you do things right, you can expect to make between X and Y.

And once they started, they probably signed an Independent Contractor agreement. You know what that means? It means you're not an employee. You know why? Because it's not a job. You're in training to learn a business.

Either do the business, or don't. It's not that complicated.

Salt Lake City,
Utah,
U.S.A.

350 pages of evidence against Scentura and World Perfume

#5UPDATE EX-employee responds

Wed, July 23, 2003

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You can easily shut down your local world perfume or scentura distributor:
http://dcregistry.com/forums/employment/messages/8037.html
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I have over 370 pages of info on Scentura and World Perfume. I collect the info to

warn others of this horrible scam:

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161 pages of testimonies from people like you who have been ripped off and cheated by world perfume or scentura:

http://www.dcregistry.com/forums/employment/messages/8356.html
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81 pages on world perfume and scentura, 17 news articles, 1 court order:
http://www.dcregistry.com/forums/employment/messages/8233.html
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"Losers never quit": a heart wrenching story from someone who stayed with Scentura for 5 months--EVERYTHING that Scentura does in this story is exactly the same as World Perfume tactics
http://dcregistry.com//forums/employment/messages/8692.html
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100+ pages is an adobe acrobat file that a former distributor sent me describing the

unethical, behind the scenes pracites of Scentura (available from me by request)
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Hope this answers your questions.

****
You can easily shut down your local world perfume or scentura distributor:
http://dcregistry.com/forums/employment/messages/8037.html
*****

Salt Lake City,
Utah,
U.S.A.

350 pages of evidence against Scentura and World Perfume

#5UPDATE EX-employee responds

Wed, July 23, 2003

Salt Lake City,
Utah,
U.S.A.

350 pages of evidence against Scentura and World Perfume

#5UPDATE EX-employee responds

Wed, July 23, 2003

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