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Smart Savings ripoff real fast being done while they talked to me on the phone ST George Utah
On Thursday 28th July 11am Australian time, I recieved a phone call from somebody calling himself Todd Lee,
The caller stated that I had downloaded an e book from Adguru written by Stephan Ducharme and obviously was looking for leads to my page, he asked me the url and I gave it to him www.a-smartmove.com and he said that he would have a look at it.
This man first said that he would like to buy my house and land seriously and what was the V in my name was it VEE or just V. I had the house on the market but I have already sold it more than 6 months ago, he said that was a pity as he had rights to Austrlian Residency and twenty five acres would be a dream for his family and what had made me sell it and I told him that I am almost 72 yeard of age Autistic (Aspergers Syndrome) and my husband died about three years ago and also that I had a bad fall working on the land and ended up in hospital and a wheel chair and realised that I could not manage the land on my own anymore.
The man asked me how much I would be willing to invest if I could be sure of getting hits and a monthly income of around US$3000 or more and I answered that I do not know, he then asked me how much I would like to earn on line to which I answered maybe $500 a month but an extra $100 would be welcome. Then I said that I would have to go so I hung up.
At 11pm Australian time I got another call from the same man and he chatted about all sorts of things his family, he said he had 4 children and his wife is Paraguan and that they had lived in Sydney Australia the conversation went for about 3 hours during which time he seemed to know an awful lot about me.
This Todd man then said that the conversation was being recorded for security sake and he asked me if I would be willing to allow my credit card to be debited.
I said no and I heard him say to somebody else "Oh we will have to start again now" and I hung up.
It was late, actually early in the wee small hours by then but a few minutes later I got another call from this Todd fellow and he said that they would send me a contract that I could look over, Take to my broker or Bank and they would verify that his company was Bona Fida.
He then told me that he would have his secretary read out the contract to me over the phone and a girl called Heidi took over.
She garbled on and I could not tell a word she was saying and asked to be put on toTodd again which she did and I told him that I have difficulty catching female voices on the phone and could not understand what she was saying.
This Todd fellow told me that it was okay as it was just a formality and I told him that he could not debit my credit card. His answer was that they would not think of doing so until I had recieved the written contract, signed it, and returned it to them via Email or Fax. I do not recall giving my credit card number but Since my memory tends to focus on irrelevant subjects and skips over other things I really do not know.
I hung up the phone and imediately rang the hot line and cancelled my credit card this by the way was 29th July by now but I was obviously too late and they had already debited my card on the 28th July. the day before to the sum of US$10,001.
The day after I called the bank bearing in mind this was week end and the banks are closed, however I called the fraud dept and got was told that I would have to wait for my statement and then they would issue an objection.
Monday I found your page and rang the bank with the information I found and I went in with my daughter to fill out a form and the bank started proceedings. Earlier that day I got a phone call from Somebody who said they were from Astra and were dispatching a package to my address, From Smart Savings, I told her to return the parcel to the sender, but Tuesday this week a package was delivered by courier to my address and my son who did not know about this signed for it and accepted it.
I got a phone call from somebody called Bob who said he was my coach, I told him that I do not want a coach as I cannot take in verbal things I am a visual person.
He said that he does not work for Smart Savings but had been contacted by them as my coach.
I rang a Lawyer and told him the story and asked him what to do with the package and he told me to hang on to it as if it contains any sort of contract it is my evidence that I have signed nothing and if the bank does not reverse the charges then I contact him again and we will go to the Bank Ombudsman as ammounts of this magnitude should not have been released without the bank first contacted me for confirmation and in any case any contract not physically signed on paper is null and void.
Also that that the individual has right to take twenty four hours deliberation on a written contract and then reneg.
Got to get these people.
Shirley
Rosebud
Australia
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