Complaint Review: SOUTH CAR MOTORSPORTS LLC

Have you filed suit for that as-is sale? What’s the Lee County docket number?

Yes your right buyer beward of this dealer J.J. ARMSTRONG AND SOUTH CAR MOTORSPORTS!!! Thats for sure, all three of you idiots keep saying that about yourselves and your right for sure. J.J. ARMSTRONG IS A LIAR AND A CHEAT!! You are all right about not being able to trust him or SOUTH CAR MOTORSPORTS!! Thanks for reminding everyone of that.

Since one of you idiots wanted to say it would cost a lot in court to fight this, I need to respond to that nonsense. I am sure you all have a lot of experience in this as your liars and cheats. I will win in court as I have all documentation and JJ ARMSTRONG WILL HAVE TO PAY ALL EXPENSES!!! If not he will pay more than the repairs cost fighting it in court. Its principal somthing JJ ARMSTRONG would know nothing about. Hes a liar and a cheat and has to pay for his fraud!!!

Let me change one statement you made slightly but ever so importantly.

"So yes, BUYER BEWARE, customers should take any car from ANY DEALER to a reputable shop for a full inspection before they buy."

 This is clearly a case of being ripped off. No matter what anyone says about the buyer not test driving the car, the dealership clearly tried to pull a fast one and succeeded. Never in history has anyone stuck up for a dealership over a disgruntled buyer, so good work JJ Armstrong with your minions coming to your rescue.

No one likes car dealers and obviously when the buyer told you of this report, a bunch of replies magically appeared. Only parties involved would care enough to respond. DUH I hope you know that your replies make you look super guilty and evil to the core.

If I were you, but thank god I’m not, I would have just denied the engine was blown, and not attack the victim. Whenever you attack the victim, you only embarrass yourself. Furthermore, if he sues, he can sue for all the flights, hotels, etc. Plus the fact you listed all that smugly, like you can’t be touched, would really sway a judge to have a negative opinion about you.

Really no words for someone as stupid as you. None . Your stating over and over that you can not trust the car dealer.  That is the point you total idiot!!! J.J. ARMSTRONG IS A FILTHY LIAR AND CHEAT!!

He is also a coward who will not even return a phone call. Pathetic, not even a man, just a filthy lying coward.  You have made my case you clueless idiot.

"I HAVE ALL EVIDENCE DOCUMENTED TO PROVE EVERY SINGLE WORD I SAID IS TRUE."

The only evidence you have is the mechanic’s statement as to the condition of the vehicle when it was brought in for service. That is not proof as to the condition of the vehicle when you received it. You have no evidence that the seller knew the engine had major problems at the time of sale.

A lawsuit will require that you file in Florida and a hearing may require an overnight stay at a later date. You may have to appear for a pretrial conference. You can expect to visit Florida at least twice or possibly three times. You may have to pay travel expenses for your mechanic.

A small claims action in Florida is for claims of $8000 or less. A large claims suit will be costly because you will need legal council. Your expenses will far exceed the 1-2% protection that I mentioned in an earlier post. It still remains unlikely that you will win due to the lack of real evidence and the as-is agreement.

You called us idiots but YOU are the one that bought the vehicle sight unseen without a test-drive.

 How STUPID is it to be buying a used car, sight unseen??? Anybody with half a brain would NEVER do such an incredibly DUMB thing. Since everybody who responded to your lack of common sense and hit the nail directly and squarely on the head, you KNOW you have no intelligent rebuttal!

Your only response is "you must work for them" or some other sorry, stupid, immature response. Nobody here is doubting you received a piece of junk. Everybody here is in agreement what you did is incredibly stupid. That, my friend, is a VERY OBVIOUS FACT!

HERE IS THE AD THAT J.J. ARMSTRONG OF SOUTH CAR MOTORSPORTS RAN WHEN I FOUND AND BOUGHT CAR! I ALSO POSTED HIS OWN WEBSITE SHOWING HE SAID CAR HAD NO ISSUES. J.J. ARMSTRONG IS A LIAR AND CHEAT!!!

This Roadster combines classic looks, modern reliability, and the right components to create a one-of-a-kind Roadster that is equally at home on the Freeway or parked at Cruise night.

A Downs roadster body is covered in layers of House of Kolor Kandy Burgundy. Body is straight and clean, with no structural issues, and no damaged areas. Paint is nice, but will show blemishes from time when you start looking really close.

I have highlighted these areas in the 100 photos below, and encourage you to review them. There are some areas where the paint has blistered (NOT RUST when it’s fiberglass), a few small scuffs and scratches, and less than a handful of stone chips, mostly on the underside of the car.

It still turns heads with ease wherever you take it, and can be shown with pride at any car show or event. It just shows a few marks from being driven 16k miles!

A 383ci V8 is a mild built meant for ease of ownership, but is still fit with a functional tri-power setup, mild cam, and as much chrome and billet as you can ask for! I don’t have any paperwork to get into specifics on the build, so the only thing I can tell you is that it doesn’t leak or weep, starts up easily, idles cleanly, doesn’t smoke, and performs without issue.

It has some chrome and dress up items on it that look great, overall the engine shows really well. Aluminum radiator keeps things cool, and the car hovers around 197 as an operating temp. Transmission is a 350 Turbo with a stock build. It snicks into gear easily, and shifts up or down without any issues. Gearing is a freeway friendly set-up, allowing for 65-70 mph cruising, but I do not know what actual ratio is.

Power-coated frame from So-Cal and is fit with TCI components in the rear and a chromed Johnny Law axle beam up front. Front beam shows quite a bit of oxidation and pitting. It might steel wool out a little better, but right now it is evident. Same can be said with some light pitting and marks on the shocks and spindles too. It is all solid and fully functional though.

The undercarriage is clean, but would require some detailing and touch up to be placed over a mirror at a show. It is just a clean, well-maintained driver level chassis that performs 10 times better than it looks.

Inside, Tan leatherette is in great shape, and keeps the interior looking clean, while the iDidit Chrome column with tilt puts the wheel right where you want it. No rips, no tears, no seam pulls. Just a clean inside with finished rear and kick panels that all look great.

Dash is clean and nice, with a fully functional set of gauges to monitor vitals. A LOKAR shifter helps with gear selection, and PDA pedals finish it off. A full convertible top with side curtains keeps you dry in the occasional rainstorm, and is in very good condition. It even comes with a full tonneau cover for when the top is down.

Trunk is power actuated, and works perfectly. It has a small storage bag affixed to it for tools and a cleaning towel, and the rest of the trunk is just carpeted and finished like the interior.

Wheels are clean, and a professional polish could make them look even cleaner. Tires are a recent addition and have at least 80% of the usable tread life remaining. On the road, it drives great. Gets up to speed quick, handles great, doesn’t have that “sloppy” feel some cars get, and is very confidence inspiring on the road.

The lights work as they should, and all the electrical functions as it should too. There are no known issues at this time, and the car has been driven over 16k miles without any issues. If you want a clean, cool, daily-driver capable 32 Ford that has a track record of proven reliability worthy of taking a long road trip in, this is the car for you

Of course I have recourse you idiot. J.J. Armstrong lied to me and said it ran great with no issues!! He said so on his own website and on ebay ad!!! thats fraud and false advertising not to mention sleezy and disgusting. He dreams of hiding behind his as-is statement.

I am sure he has done this many times. Well now he will finally regret it as it will cost him. attached is all proof of what he said. J.J. ARMSTRONG IS A LIAR AND A CHEAT. You know it as well as you likely work for him or are him pretending to be some interested party which is pathetic.

The repair shop showed the damage to the dealer you idiot. Its not me saying it has no power.
- The repair shop showed the damage AFTER you bought the car. The only idiot is the idiot who spends 10's of thousands of dollars on a car and doesn't spend a few hundred dollars to have it checked-out BEFORE they buy the car.. That is what everyone of us is saying and apparently you aren't understanding.

Again this is likely JJ Armstrongs mom or some schlep or JJ himself as he is a coward liar.
- I think everyone here has been accused of being many people. But the mother of the person they are complaing about I do have to say I think is a first. Unfortunatly, though this just shows how little of a claim you have.

As it is SOP when something is posted that doesn't go along with your narrative to accuse them of somehow working for the person or being the person.  Where the only reason you do this is because you can't actually dispute what people are saying.  But the fact is this is a PUBLIC web site and as such the public can post. While this may be a shock, the public may not always agree with you.

Yes, when you purchase a vehicle, you should look at it, but plenty of people buy vehicles from across country on websites like eBay ect. When you post it runs great with no problems, and you transport a car with a blown engine across country, that makes you one hellava special a$$hole.

If that's how this dealership conducts business, I hope this person sues the pants off of them, and gets awarded attorney fees. If he has the ad and proof that JJ Armstrong said it ran perfectly, no issues, that is false advertisement.

You can get all the signed as-is papers you want, but if you claim in writing on your website that the car was in perfect condition and the engine turns out to be blown, the dealership is fuct. Just like if JJ Armstrong said the car is black and a red car showed up, he can't claim as-is. And the people defending such lies and deceit are obviously people who work at the dealership, because there is no excusing liars and cheats.

I saw South Car Motorsports IG that he claimed this car was all that and a bag of chips. Are you sure you didn't leave that bag of chips in the cylinder heads? lol

I hope this dealership gets what's coming to them. So yes, BUYER BEWARE, customers should take any car from South Car Motorsports to a reputable shop for a full inspection before they buy. They are 100% not honest, and just hoping that you skip a step, so they can rip you off. What another embarrassment to the car industry. Pathetic...

ALL three of you idiots likely JJ ARMSTRONGS MOM OR HIMSELF SAY SAME THING!! Your admitting his word is crap and that he of course lies. He made it very clear to me that it ran great and had no issues. Thats it, he lied!!!!!

Now he is a coward and wont respond at all. He knows he lied and he is pathetic. J.J. ARMSTRONG IS A LIAR AND A CHEAT!!! HE WILL PAY FOR THE REPAIRS!!! DO NOT BUY A CAR FROM THIS LOSER. I HAVE ALL EVIDENCE DOCUMENTED TO PROVE EVERY SINGLE WORD I SAID IS TRUE.

He tries these fake rebutttals yet wont call me back or text back or any response at all after he says he will call me right away once repair shop sent him proof of damage!!! What a scumbag idiot. He will pay. beward of this scumbag!!!

Yes you need to trust at some point you idiot. Again this is likely JJ Armstrongs mom or some schlep or JJ himself as he is a coward liar. Total loser idiots at this pathetic dealership. J.J. Armstrong ripped me off and lied!

he wont get away with it no matter how many times he responds with his mom or some lacky friend or himself! cant lie to people and rip them off and think you will get away with it!!!

The repair shop showed the damage to the dealer you idiot. Its not me saying it has no power. You buffoon. JJ Armstrong went on and on about how great it ran. I had shop show him engine was damaged. He lied and ripped me off very basic. You are likely his mom.

So you decide to buy a car that is going to be 10's of thousands of dollars.  Yet you don't spend a few hundred dollars to either go out and personally inspect it or pay someone local(perhaps from a local hot rod club in Florida) to do it.

You don't even ask for a cell phone video of the car with the engine running. As I said AMAZING on how stupid some people can be.

I have no idea if this dealer ripped you off, but if they did...YOU let them do it.

Your problem is that you bought the car "As-Is" and that is what is in the paperwork. You can say that he told you it runs with no issues..etc. But for a 1932 car what exactly does that mean? You admit yourself that you were able to start it and drive it to a mechanic. Yes it took longer to idle and not as much power as YOU think it should.  But the fact that you were able to do that does not help your claim. You would have to prove that the dealer knew the engine was bad. But if they are like most dealers they don't go looking for problems. They aren't going to take it to a mechanic that may tell them there is an engine issue. They are going to start it up, drive it and tell you that it works great.

Good Luck and enjoy your classic.

 You just had to have THAT car, right? Your tongue was hanging out so much for THAT car that you sent off your money to somebody you don't know to buy this thing which you never saw, never test driven or checked over. Don't talk about the virtues of trust becsuse TRUST is applied ONLY after you have a track record with the person you are trusting. You just had to have THAT car so much that you threw CONMON SENSE out the window! There are few things more STUPID than buying a USED CAR, sight unseen via the Internet but when it comes to a dumb car, so many of you do incredibly stupid things. Oh yes, now's the time to write back, "you must work for them"!

"So I was not able to look at car in person or hear in person."

That is an incorrect statement. You CHOSE not to inspect or test-drive the 88-year-old car. A round trip (Sacramento to Fort Myers to Sacramento) plane ticket would have cost about $600. If you paid 30K-$50K for the car, the plane ticket would have been an additional cost of 1-2% to protect your investment.

You have no recourse because the as-is agreement means that you agreed to accept the vehicle with all faults in its present condition.

Happy motoring!