Stanley I. Spirn - Stan's Limo - Stan's Limousine Desperate For Money Rip-Off Stay away from Stanley I. Spirn - Stan's Limo AKA Stan's Limousine Cedarhurst New York
On June 1st, I contacted Mr.Stanley I. Spirn - Stan's Limo AKA Stan's Limousine to inquire about corporate Limousine Service for our business. Mr. Stanley Spirn was very egar to take our business. When I spoke to Mr.Stanley I. Spirn - Stan's Limo AKA Stan's Limousine, I told him that our A/P department will cut him a check 30 days after the 1st use of the car. Before the 1st trip was over with, I had a bill on my fax machine. Strangely enough, there was a mistake on the bill. I contacted Stan, and left a messgae with his wife or whomeever runs his home office. I then made several other reservations with Stan, and once more, before the Job was overwith, the bill was in my fax machine.
I finally get a call from Stanley I. Spirn - Stan's Limo AKA Stan's Limousine demanding payment. He demanded payment 10 days before the 1st invoice was due to be paid. Not only was he extremely rude about it, but he constantly called our office harassing our employees about a bill that is not due yet.
I went away on vacation for 4 days. Within the 4 days that I was gone, Mr. Stanley I. Spirn - Stan's Limo AKA Stan's Limousine called our office approx 91 times demanding payment, which STILL isn't due for another 6 days. Now he's getting annoying.
I get a letter 5 days before the bill is due from his attorney. His attorney is now demanding payment for a bill that's NOT DUE YET. Not only is the bill not due, but he's not tacking on Interest for no reason.
So, I contact our corporate attorney who tears a new one in his attorney, and I think the issue is dead. I was wrong. Now, Mr. Stanley I. Spirn - Stan's Limo AKA Stan's Limousine is sending his croonies to My house demanding payment, once more days before it's due.
As I am writing this, Big Stan himself shows up to my door with one of his croonies. Now, it's 2 days before payment is due, so he asks me, what do I intend to do about the bill, and I very nicely said, "Not a thing" your attorney is in touch with my attorney. Once more, he muttered, What do you intend to do with this bill, I laughed in his face, and told him to take me to court. I slammed the door in his face and thats' that.
I pay my bills on time, always, but when it comes to some royal p***k of a guy demanding payment days before it's due, this is where I draw the line. There is no way I am going to pay this f*cking moron a dime now since he's harassed me. Watch out for Stanley I. Spirn - Stan's Limo AKA Stan's Limousine at www.stanslimo.com, he's a real royal a*****e!
Anthony
New York, New York
U.S.A.
6 Updates & Rebuttals
Tracy
Hayward,California,
U.S.A.
PAY HIM
#7Consumer Comment
Fri, June 23, 2006
I was just browsing reading this information. And I agree with this limousine service to be paid for SERVICES RENDERED.
I am a chauffuer myself and if I kept calling the customer for payment and didn't get a call back. Not one. That tells me he is avoiding the issue.
Anthony. Why didn't you just call him back. You want something for nothing. How would you feel if you worked and worked and worked and the person didn't want to pay you for your time and gas? Place yourself in his shoes. It would be a different story wouldn't it?
Regardless you kept using the service. And the reason there was a problem here was because you refused to communicate with a simple return phone call to the service.
Tracy
Hayward,California,
U.S.A.
PAY HIM
#7Consumer Comment
Fri, June 23, 2006
I was just browsing reading this information. And I agree with this limousine service to be paid for SERVICES RENDERED.
I am a chauffuer myself and if I kept calling the customer for payment and didn't get a call back. Not one. That tells me he is avoiding the issue.
Anthony. Why didn't you just call him back. You want something for nothing. How would you feel if you worked and worked and worked and the person didn't want to pay you for your time and gas? Place yourself in his shoes. It would be a different story wouldn't it?
Regardless you kept using the service. And the reason there was a problem here was because you refused to communicate with a simple return phone call to the service.
Tracy
Hayward,California,
U.S.A.
PAY HIM
#7Consumer Comment
Fri, June 23, 2006
I was just browsing reading this information. And I agree with this limousine service to be paid for SERVICES RENDERED.
I am a chauffuer myself and if I kept calling the customer for payment and didn't get a call back. Not one. That tells me he is avoiding the issue.
Anthony. Why didn't you just call him back. You want something for nothing. How would you feel if you worked and worked and worked and the person didn't want to pay you for your time and gas? Place yourself in his shoes. It would be a different story wouldn't it?
Regardless you kept using the service. And the reason there was a problem here was because you refused to communicate with a simple return phone call to the service.
Tracy
Hayward,California,
U.S.A.
PAY HIM
#7Consumer Comment
Fri, June 23, 2006
I was just browsing reading this information. And I agree with this limousine service to be paid for SERVICES RENDERED.
I am a chauffuer myself and if I kept calling the customer for payment and didn't get a call back. Not one. That tells me he is avoiding the issue.
Anthony. Why didn't you just call him back. You want something for nothing. How would you feel if you worked and worked and worked and the person didn't want to pay you for your time and gas? Place yourself in his shoes. It would be a different story wouldn't it?
Regardless you kept using the service. And the reason there was a problem here was because you refused to communicate with a simple return phone call to the service.
Darren
Neenah,Wisconsin,
U.S.A.
Thanks Kathleen
#7Consumer Comment
Mon, August 23, 2004
Hi Kathleen,
I just wanted to thank you for your reasoned response on this topic.
I agree that it sounds like a situation that got way out of control. I too would question some of the practices on both sides.
I have had friends in my life who have contracted with large corporations to do free-lance work. Their biggest problem was cash flow. Even when they were told that they wouldn't have to wait the 30 or 60 days it would end up that they had to.
What is most irritating is that the owner of Stan's Limo probably knew as well as the rest of us that if Anthony would have made a phone call the money would have been paid immediately. Instead, he wanted to play the big shot and do only that which was convenient to him... because his "corporate policy" was more important that doing what was right.
It isn't often I can go into a business and tell them that I will pay them according to my policy. If I want what they have to offer, then I have to agree to their terms.
I don't condone Stan's behavior if it was as reported, but I surely can understand it. I would guess that any "reasonable" person that hires his service and pays in a "reasonable" time (that which is on the contract for service) would have a very good experience.
In my finance class in college they taught to pay as late as you can and to collect as soon as you can. I would sit there and think that the companies that need to do that the most are the ones that can't afford to do it.
It is the ones that can afford to go ahead and make the payment to their vendors and customers that hurt so many new business's that are trying to start out.
While Anthony's company tried to squeeze a couple of pennies out of the interest it would collect by waiting 30 days, he could be keeping a person's family from eating, a repair being done to this man's limo so he can continue to work or Stan's ability to pay someone's salary.
None of us know the financial situation of Stan's Limo... but often small business rise or fall and that mony coming in.
Kathleen
Delmar,New York,
U.S.A.
re: Anthony and Stan: This is Standard Operating Procedure!
#7Consumer Comment
Sun, August 22, 2004
To Whom It May Cobcern-
I am the owner of a small Transportation business in upstate New York and I have a few comments and a suggestion for "Anthony" of the complaining party as well as a suggestion for Stanley. As usual, this situation was created by a lack of COMMUNICATION and some possible follow-up, lack of "telling the whole story" and possible undesirable (and ILLEGAL) "collection" procedures.
In reading the Rip-Off Report concerning Stan's Limosine Service, I understand it to read that you, Anthony, hired Stan to provide limo transportation for you. Although there is no mention of you ever having hired a limo before, it seems as though you probably have. Whether or not this is indeed the case, you should know that transportation is NOT billable in 30 days, rather it is, by Federal Law, billable in 7 days. There is not a transportation company in existence...from a taxi ride (which you pay for immediately) to UPS, Fedex, North American, United, Yellow, NEMF, ANYONE....NO ONE in Transportation EVER waits 30 days to bill for Transportation services whether they transport people or boxes. The cash flow you would need just to pay your expenses (and that's BEFORE you make a PROFIT) would be ASTRONOMICAL. That is why this Federal law exists.
If Anthony was not advised of this upon his FIRST phone call to Stan (which I doubt), he certainly must have been advised during subsequent "91" requests for payment. If he STILL was not advised, THAT was a poor business practice then compounded by harassing calls made by Stan...at least according to Anthony. I cannot imagine ANYONE spending the time to make 91 calls in the 4 days Anthony was "on vacation". That would cost more than the bill, itself.
All this being said, I notice even AFTER receiving the first invoice on his fax machine, which SHOULD have rung bells for Anthony and prompted a phone call to Stan for an clarification of any agreements for payment, Anthony continued to utilize Stan's service, without clarification? Anthony had the same option we ALL have in making decisions to purchase products or services: If you are unhappy with a product or service or agreement, don't buy or use it! Just like I do when my mailbox gets full of porn. I have a "Delete" and "Block Sender" button. I use it.
Stan should certainly take note of this: Make SURE prospective clients are aware of your (and every OTHER Transportation company's) intent to bill almost immediately so it's not a surprise to clients unfamiliar with these services and doesn't further exascorbate your own cash flow by someone who I think is full of baloney and will take all the services you give him BEFORE he decides he's unhappy because you dare to ask him for payment. There seemed to be nothing lacking in your limo service since Anthony kept on using it. If truth, sending "Uncle Guido" to someone's door for payment might get you in jail, yourself or worse, dead. The stated "harassing" phone calls are also against the law for it would seem to me that among the asserted "91" of them in "4 days", SOMEONE MUST have said, "Stop calling here!" That, in itself, is an order to cease and desist and persue legal remedies. That is how you KEEP a CIVILIZED society.
Personally, I look askance at this story. The facts, as stated by Anthony, simply don't make sense. It doesn't seem to me ANYONE would go thru all it takes to set up and run a business just to alienate clients. I think I'd like to hear Stan's side of this story and then try to figure out the REAL story. As we all know, there are 3 sides to every story: yours, mine and the Truth. I doubt we've heard it (the Truth), yet. Were I Stan, I think I'd have a rebuttal on this website YESTERDAY and a phone call to my own lawyer tomorrow!
Bottom line? Pay up, Anthony! Whether you LIKE Stan and his limo company or not, you are now ripping the man off for his JUST payment. Pay him and THEN trash him all over the internet or take out a full page in the NY Times, if you're so angry about being billed "early." But PAY him. You will, anyway. Guaranteed. Whether it's in 10 days or 10 years, you don't have a leg to stand on and somewhere in your future you will want a mortgage or some other major financial consideration that will force you to pay the judgement or lien Stan is guaranteed to get.
Oh, and by the way: Anthony, your inferred language on this site is unnecessary, puerile and extremely UNprofessional.