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Steel Valley Ragdolls Cattery Owned By Angela Kostelansky Scammed Two Mink Ragdolls without paying what we agreed On Very Unethical Breeder Beware!!!!! Charleroi Pennsylvania
RitzNRagdolls Sold Steel Valley Ragdolls Owned by Angela Kostelansky Two Rare Mink Ragdoll Kittens in 7-20-2008, we sold them on the agreement of her returning two kittens out of her future litters (not related to our cats) and she was to give us first choice..
We Sold her a Rare Chocolate Sepia BiColor Male with Gold eyes and Also sold her a Seal Mink Tortie Mitted with a fine blaze Female
After waiting a year Miss Kostelansky wasnt communicating with us we contacated her asking about the kittens due us on the deal me made she made up a story saying she had at 6 mos old neutered the Chocolate BiColor Sepia Mink male and gave him to a friend and also said she had spayed the Seal Tortie Mink female. Her excuse for neutering the male at 6 mos old was she didnt thing he was large enough which is a strange thing to say for 6 mos kitten. Ragdolls dont mature till they are 4 years old.
A Sepa Mink kitten is very rare and we sold him for a very low price allowing her to trade for a kitten in the future . She thinks making the excuse she neutered and spayed these kittens we made the agreement releases of her of the agreement she has ripped us off in returning two kittens She now on her website is (8-1-2009)showing a seal mink female kitten which is clearly a kitten from the mink female she owns its got a very distinctive mis mark on her face which her Mink female carrys.
On the website she shows kittens and makes no note of who the parents are and its for sure a kitten of her female. although she claims shes selling it for a friend which is far from the truth She then shows this mink female she owns having a litter due August 5 her claims the kitten on the website is a friends. Well its obvious shes trying to breed the minks we sold her and to register or represent them from her existing Mink. I would say to anyone going to deal with this Angela Kostelansky to beware as she is very unethical and not honest in her dealings we plan on making the public aware of her scam and she has taken two rare kittens from us and is cheating us from the agreement of returning two kittens Beware of this breeder she is not honest in her dealings. She is going to try to fold kittens that she doesnt own the papers to into her exhisting litters shes dishonest in her dealings and thinks nothing up of making lies up to try to suit whats shes doing Beware of Steel Valley Ragdolls
JR ****
RitZNRagdolls
Jr50
Mulberry, Arkansas
U.S.A.
33 Updates & Rebuttals
lostintherockies
Utah,Oh brother...
#34REBUTTAL Individual responds
Sun, September 22, 2013
First off, I'm not as inexperienced as Linda thinks I am. I have been breeding for a couple years...not a long time, but I do have experience. Our family has rehabilitated a few feral cats over the years. My first 2 cats were not TICA registered, and when I talked to Linda, I told her I wanted to start breeding TICA cats, and with the kitten I purchased, I still had to wait almost a year to breed and didn't want to wait that long. I wanted to buy an adult cat. I have had 5 healthy litters of kittens in the past 2 years. I have an email to prove I told her the cat weighed 4 lbs. when I took her to the vet. I never claimed any other number. I did wait until I got her up to a safe weight to breed. She is so small, my vet told me if she got over 7 lbs, she would be overweight. 8 lbs. ragdoll is on the small side of average.
I have a great vet. I have contact with a couple breeders in Utah that have more experience than I do. I have good quality cats...well, all but one. I wasn't going to even breed her, but a couple days before I was going to spay her, she bred with my male wihtout showing any signs of being in season, so I let them get together 5 times in 2 days and see if she could even produce.
I've worked hard to make sure I did things right so I only bred high quality cats. I have all my breeders tested for HCM, not just Feline leukemia--One thing the breeders here said to make sure I did before breeding. They are all clear. I am surely not an expert on everything about cat showing and breeding, but I have attended all my cats' births, assisted when necessary. We have only had one problem, it was a heart murmur and the kitten didn't live very long.
I have enough experience to recognize an underweight cat when I see it---and she was very underweight at 4 lbs. Why didn't Linda tell me that? Why wouldn't she say, "She is underweight---maybe it's just worms, and I've wormed her, but do you still want her? Do you want to wait and see if she gains weight? Gee, letting me know I was buying a very small version of ragdolls would have been nice. The cat acted as feral as my daughter's rescued feral cats, and still, all these months later is very skiddish. My male was an adult when I got him and he was afraid in a new place, but nothing like this cat. How many of you would feel you purchased a high quality breeding cat? Linda thought she was. If she didn't think she was, realized she wasn't, she should have told me and told me to consider another cat for my breeding program so her reputation would be strong as the selling breeder. I did NOT get what I paid for. I got an underweight feral cat. I got a cat that never should be sold as a breeder. Why throw good money after bad and pay money to return the cat and have her send me a cat of her choosing, her judgment of what a good cat was? What if I got one just like the one I sent back? She says she offered to make things right--I'm not sure she is capable of that. I don't know if all her cats are this poor quality. Unless I went there to see for myself and picked one out for myself, I didn't feel like that was a viable option. I offered to sell the cat for what I could here and have them reimburse me the difference. She did send me a buyer, but he wanted to buy her for less than half what I bought her for, and get breeding rights, too. He's probably thrilled he hasn't had the delivery issues I had to deal with today.
I'm really not that hard to work with. I believe in being honest, helping people, doing my best, and being ethical and responsible. My shortcoming I guess, is believing others will do the same. Every breeder is going to have a kitten with health issues at some point. Do you offer a health guarantee? A good breeder will. Do you sell a breeder with a reproduction guarantee? A good breeder will. When an issue arises with a kitten you sold, do you make it the buyer's fault or do you calmly honor your guarantee? Unless there's been some kind of neglect or abuse on the buyer's part, that's what you do. You don't get nasty. You have compassion for the person who bought your cat and is going through some disappointment because of issues that (should be) are not under your control or theirs. If I had a health issue with my cat after I received a healthy, appropriate weight and size cat that is well-adjusted, then I should have some recourse. If I recieve a cat in the condition my cat came in, when I thought I was buying a healthy, ready to breed cat, then I have a right to be disappointment and feel cheated. I didn't get what she told me I was getting. I didn't get what I bought.
lostintherockies
Utah,Here's the result of breeding RitzNRagdolls "quality" cat
#34Consumer Comment
Sun, September 22, 2013
I purchsed a cat from Ritz N Ragdolls in March 2013 with the sole purpose of breeding. Linda told me she had been saving this cat because she knew someone would want to breed her. She said she would be a perfect breeder for me. She came at 4 lbs! at 17 months old, the weight of a 4 months old ragdoll cat. Skin and bones and very tiny. My vet said that if I could get her up to 6-7 lbs., he thinks it would be okay to breed her. I got her up to 6.5 lbs. I had pretty much decided not to breed her because she wasn't a great quality cat, but days before I was going to spay her, I found her with my male and decided we would give it a try once and see what happened. She delivered a few days early, on day 62 of 63-67 normally. I have one living kitten weighing only 50 g--if you search on the internet, you will find that a ragdoll kitten usually weighs between 80-120 g at birth. He is so small and weak, I don't know if he will make it. I have 3 dead kittens of various sizes. The largest one is close to the size of the living one. Be careful buying breeders from this place! She offers no guarantees for good reasons, apparently. I've had 5 litters before and only lost one kitten, but it was normal size at least. I wish I could post pictures...One is about 1.5" long, very underdeveloped. One is about 3" long and underdeveloped. The other looked almost as big as the one that is living. Something is seriously wrong with this cat. My male has sired 17 kittens and we've never had problems like this before. I've never even heard of it.
Jr50
Mulberry,Arkansas,
Light Foot Ragdolls Owned By Pamela Banta in Orem Utah is a trouble Maker
#34Author of original report
Fri, September 13, 2013
Pam Banta owner of Light Foot Ragdolls in Orem UT is a trouble maker she contineus over and over to harp on the fact she bought a cat from us that weighed 5 lbs the cat was a petitte female she has made claims the cat weighed 2-3-4-5 pounds in various complaints she plastered all over the internet,Her cat she purchased was friendly and happy here but going to a new home got no understanding because Pam has limited experience with cats
Pam our question is what do you want now??? Dont you have anything better to do??. Why do you keep harping this over and over. Blame your self for not knowing what you are doing.
The cat she got was certified healthy and was healthy she asked no prior questions to purchasing this cat about her weight and had she i would have disclosed any answers honestly to the questions. Also for the record all RitzNragdolls are Feline Leukemia/Fiv Negitative any new cat coming into our cattery is tested there fore any kittens born are neg. We have no history ever of FIP.
A cat getting a State Health Certificate is examined and is tested for parasites, and if the cat shows any signs of sickness its not given a health certificate and her cat was certified healthy.
RitznRagdolls does gurantee our cats or kittens to test Negitative ,Tests such as feline leukemia is up to the buyer to have done and any experienced breeder knows that is the first thing you have done before letting a cat join their cattery. Agin her comments are aimed in a effort to make RitzNRagdoll to be unresponsiable which our posted health Gurantee is there for all to read and its what she should have done
Her cat is now pregnant and we dont feel 3 months for a cat to become pregnant is unreasonable but Miss Banta says she had to wait 3 mos for the cat to get pregnant. More of her in un-experienced complaints
This complaint was reported to the Better Business Bureau by Pam Banta and was reviewed by the Better Business Bureau and it was ruled RitzNRagdolls made reasonable & fair effort to resolve her dis satifaction with the cat she purchased.
We have done cat breeding for over 25 years and have VERY MANY HAPPY BUYERS and as everyone knows you cant make every one happy.
Miss Banta is very inexperienced to cat breeding and doesnt even know the right questions to ask and who knows if she can even breed cats with no experience. But now shes blabbing for everyone else to ask questions. If a cat has any birthing problems I feel she wouldnt even know what to do or even the care of the mother would be in question. Much less if the kittens come up with a health problem
She has made so many complaints about this female is so sad because she has made this cat worthless shes plastered all over the internet that the cats deformed showing poor photos of the cat crouching which that is all the cat is doing shes not deformed. I explained this to her early on but she doesnt get it but she will later will realize shes hurting her selF AND HER FUTURE KITTEN SALES
DID IT EVER OCCUR TO HER, WHO WOULD WANT ONE OF THESE KITTENS???? After all what she wrote , I wouldnt.
If you are a breeder considering selling her a cat Think Three Times as if anything is a problem she will put up unreasonable demands and try to make her own rules because that what she tried to do here she wanted to sell my cat she got and gave no chance to, SHE WANTED TO SELL THE CAT for what she wanted and wanted us to pay the difference we tried to make several suggestions and she was unreasonable.
I EVEN OFFERED HER A BUYER FOR THE CAT BUT SHES JUST UNREASONABLE
RitzNRagdolls has many many happy buyers and they have been here to my cattery we have wonderful facilitys for the cats they are raised with plenty of room and in clean comftorable conditions I hire a Kitty Nanny to come in 3 hours a day to clean and tend to the cats & she very carefully examines each litter to make sure everything is right.
We spend 4 hours a day also in their care.The cats always have clean food water blankets and are pampered. Our kittens are given filtered water, my kittens are socialized by us and also have been exposed to dogs
Ill match my kittens to any Cattery any day just take a L@@K . And I have a long list of HAPPY Kitten Owners by request any time!!!!!! Our Kittens are Beautiful & are well cared.
We do stand behind our cats and kittens sold and are always there for our buyers we did make effort to replace this cat. We are not going to let some one buy a kitten and try to set our policys as Miss Banta tried to do.
Pam Banta Is A Trouble Maker And when she sells kittens or cats I hope she comes across buyers like her
What goes Around Comes Around.
lostintherockies
Be cautious!
#34Consumer Comment
Fri, September 13, 2013
I would be cautious about purchasing from RitzNRagdolls / Linda Davis. I purchased a cat from her that was supposed to be breeder quality that I could start using for breeding immediately. When my 17 month old cat arrived, she weighed 4 lbs., was scarily thin, and terrified of people. I have purchased other older cats, and this was way beyond new people jitters. I later found out that the cat had been in caged. She is beautiful, but the pictures didn't show her low weight. I called the place that did the "health certificate." The lady there said the ONLY thing they certify is that the cat being examined doesn't have anything communicable--such as ear mites, lice, fleas, etc. They don't certify the actual health of the cat--a healthy weight, not a leukemia carrier, HCM, or anything else. I asked how this 4 lb. adult ragdoll cat that thin could be certified healthy and she said they don't worry about anything like that. So take that "health certificate" with a grain of salt.
It took me 3 months to get her weight up to where my vet said she could be bred. She is a small ragdoll, as Linda has stated many of hers are, so make sure you ask questions about the size of the parents before you purchase. She offered to replace her, at my expense to ship her back to AR, and pay to ship the new kitty to me, which would have been over $500. I trusted her judgment that the first cat I got from her was ready for breeding and a wonderful, quality cat. How could I trust her judgment to send me another one of her choice, that it would be any better quality than the first one? At my expense? I didn't get a quality cat, a healthy cat. Anyone interested in one of her beautiful cats---GO there and see what her cattery is like--see everything--the cages, the parents, spend some time with your kitten and make sure it is well-adjusted. Her kittens probably are, but if you are buying one that is over 6 months old, buy in person. See the TICA docs and use your best judgment.
Linda can be very sweet till she thinks you crossed her, then she can get pretty difficult to deal with...so I will probably get some backlash, again, from this.
Jr50
Mulberry,Arkansas,
U.S.A.
Melissa Didnt turn the cat into the South Carolina Animal Control
#34Author of original report
Thu, August 25, 2011
After Reading Details I see this cat sold to Melissa has been adopted and am so happy for that I also read the cat had been Sold to another Cattery This story has been so upsetting because being told the cat was going to be put to death and had been surrendered to the South Carolina Animal Control. By the information I was given by them I traced the cat back to Melissa Barefoot. The animal control employee never gave me a name of the person and I was never given the name of the person on the registration of who turned the cat in
This situwation was very sad because Im in arkansas and this cat was in South Carolina and had three days to live, the cat got adopted
I KNOW MELISSA DID NOT TURN THIS CAT INTO THE SOUTH CAROLINA ANIMAL CONTROL
I do believe the cat has and is with the lady she said she adopted him and still has him
I do know we were contacted by the South Carolina animal control and I know there was a Blue Ragdoll male un neutered turned in. Of course I never got to see this cat or any photos which i wish i had so I would have know if it was my mink I sold Melissa This cat had paperwork form our cattery, matching the paperwork that was sold to Melissa The two storys of the cat being in the shelter and the cat being owned dont go together
After seeing what everybody is saying there is Two Cats here Something is not right and Im sorry Melissa got caught in the middle but we were desperate to make sure this cat got adopted and didnt get pet to death Something here is NOT Right And we were very very angry some one had done this with the cat There is several people maybe involved since Melissa had this cat
I am very sorry all this has happened the whole situwation makes me feel very bad as I breed these beautiful ragdolls so people can enjoy them as I love and enjoy them I have been a hobby breeder for more than 25 years I feel I have beautiful kittens and cats and want them to bring Joy to peoples lives.
Most important is Spay and Neuter, this gives each kitten a fair chance to go into someones home and be a Good Pet & not a unneutered Cat that may Spray and then end up at the shelter
Linda Davis
Jennifer
Cleveland,Virginia,
United States of America
I would not buy from any of you, except CURT
#34General Comment
Wed, August 24, 2011
This back and forth is not good for any breeder, and personally I would not buy from any of you, with the exception of Curt. Reading all of this he was the only one that seemed to have any sense, after reviewing your websites, my opinion is my non registered cats have kittens that look just like these and I give them away for free. I am not a cat breeder and believe in spay/neuter however I live in an area where people like to drop off cats, and from time to time pregnant cats show up and I swear the kittens are just as pretty if not prettier than kittens on these websites (especially the Peacock kittens from the RitzandRagdolls), they seriously have pics of peacocks listed under kittens????
I would buy from the Curt guy, he seems to to know what he is talking about.
Melissa Barefoot
McBee,South Carolina,
United States of America
MITTENS???????? Did you send me the wrong Kittens Linda Davis?????
#34Consumer Comment
Tue, August 23, 2011
Here shows exactly what I expected in first place and they admitting they posted those false statements on Hot Complaints about me as they did not even give light to this on there. Mariner does not even have mittens (????) and female did not as matter fact also. Registration holders better check your record keeping also. Unless your admitting something new sending me wrong cats to start with. (????)
Fact still remains I was to receive TICA registration papers cats and they arrived with very poor quality registration holder for a reputable breeder in TICA. TICA will not recognize TCA, INC. Lets also point out (The Note) from Pay-pal as reminder what I was to receive and Linda Davis took my money from Pay-pal and sent the cats to me anyways of lesser quality and value than I even paid for and was expecting to receive from her and she was not even on the TCA, Inc as breeder. I would not call TCA,INC for information on anything to be confirmed as I had disagreement with TCA, Inc also.... I paid for # generation pedigree and they sent me lesser generation pedigree...(They count the parents on their pedigree). Just visit their website and read how they recognize cats in their registration and this why TICA will not recognize them point blank and this why I think Linda Davis was and is Hanging papers with TICA as she told me she would be doing and told me I should do with the two cats she sent me. ( I Melissa Barefoot will never or have not hung any papers in my life). Please TICA DNA test their pedigrees for all newbies, reputable breeders and put end to this in the cat world.
JR Johnston Let me get this straight::: You are now saying North Carolina Rescue... but said South Carolina Rescue Control on Hot complaints only. Which is it???? Anyone can call them to confirm Animal Rescue would never call a breeder and even if their papers where turned in with them as I do believe SC and NC have the same govern laws. I like to know HOW IN THE ****???? Can I place a cat I do not no longer own with a rescue, with his papers, and what your saying on here and on Hot complaints???? Do you think people are that dumb to believe this made up very sad story you trying to put on me??? I wonder if a Judge is that dumb to believe your lies???
ATTACHED: Pay-Pal screen shoot ....Also everyone take a look of screen shot w/new owner in 2009 show with TCA, Inc. from their site in my posting above all JR Johnston lies and its my second post on here. That owner(breeder) placed him with family in NC and he is still with them to this day as she responded on Hot Complaints.
"BBB did not rule in your favor ( another lie) they did not rule or settle anything. "
Jr50
Mulberry,Arkansas,
U.S.A.
The Cat you bought as a breeder You Dumped At South Carolina Animal Control
#34Author of original report
Tue, August 23, 2011
MISS BROADFOOT I WAS CALLED BY SOMEONE AT THE ANIMAL CONTROL AND THEY HAD MY CELL PHONE NUMBER AS IT WAS ON THE REGISTRATION PAPERS AND IT WAS VERIFIED BY THE PAPERS YOU TURNED IN WITH THE CAT IT WAS THE MINK WE SOLD YOU MITTENS OR NO MITTENS THATS NOT THE PROBLEM IT THE ONLY BLUE MINK WE SOLD AS A BREEDER WE HAD THE DOB REGISTRATION NUMBER AND CAT DESCRIPTION
WHAT BOTHERS YOU IS THAT YOU CANT BLAME SOMEONE AT HE SHELTER FOR TELLING US SO YOU COULD MAKE MORE TROUBLE BUT SOMEONE DID CARE MORE FOR THAT BEAUTIFUL CAT THAN YOU DID AND SOMEONE DID CALL US , TO BAD FOR YOU DOESNT LOOK GOOD AND YOU KNOW IT
YOU WERE NOT SENT A KITTEN THAT WAS INFERIOR QUALITY WHAT YOU GOT WAS A HEALTHY VERY PRETTY BLUE MINK CAT AND IT WAS SOLD AT A VERY REASONABLE PRICE. YOU HAD OR NEVER HAD ANYTHING THAT PROVES YOUR CLAIMS OF BEING PROMISED A TICA REGISTERED CAT .
WHATS THE COMMENT SUPOSE TO MEAN ABOUT A POOR QUALITY FOLDER THE PAPERS ARRIVED IN? COME ON .
WHERE CAN YOU BUY A REGISTERED MINK FOR $850(FEMALE mINK) and $750 (THE BLUE mINK MALE)???? THE GOING PRICE FOR A REGISTERED MINK IS MUCH MORE AND YOU KNOW IT. Shipping isnt want you paid for the cat thats the cost of shipping .YOU WERNT TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF OR EVEN SCAMMED
BACK TO THE CAT YOU DUMPED:
YOU COULD HAVE SANTA CLAUS SAY HES GOT THE CAT NOW THAT WAS DUMPED AT THE SHELTER BUT IT DOESNT MAKE IT TRUE WE KNOW THE CAT WAS AT THE SHELTER AND WE KNOW HE HAD THREE DAYS TO BE ADOPTED AND HE WAS WE KNOW WE SOLD YOU THE CAT BECAUSE WE HAD THE INFORMATION TO HIS PAPERS AFTER i GOT THE CALL LINDA CALLED BACK THE NUMBER THE PERSON THAT CALLED ME AND GAVE ME AND SHE GOT FURTHER INFORMATION ON THE CAT YOU DUMPED. THEY DID NOT DISCLOSE YOUR NAME BUT THEY DID DISCLOSE INFORMATION TO THE CAT THAT WE KNEW YOU WERE THE OWNER
EVEN DIANA FINNERAN FROM TCA WAS IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE SHELTER ABOUT THIS TCA CAT . TCA WAS VERY UPSET OVER WHAT YOU DID ALSO AND AS YOU KNOW THEY POSTED A WARNING ON YOU
WE KNOW FOR A FACT THE CAT WAS DUMPED AND YOU KNOW IT
STOP LIEING and ASKING SOMEONE ELSE TO LIE FOR YOU AND WASTING MY TIME AND YOURS
WE STILL HAVE ALL EMAILS OF CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN YOU AND LINDA DISCUSSING YOU WANTING TO REGISTER THE CATS WITH TICA WE HAVE EVERY EMAIL IN FACT THE EMAILS SHOW YOU SAYING YOU WANTED TICA PAPERS AND THE EMAILS SHOW WE TOLD YOU THAT WE NEVER PROMISED YOU ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE CATS WERE REGISTERED. YOU HAD NOTHING TO BACK UP YOUR CLAIMS BUT SOMETHING YOU TYPED
YOU CLAIM TO BE A NEWBIE BREEDER BUT YOU TALK LIKE A OLD PROW OF COURSE YOU ARE NOT NEW TO BREEDING ANIMALS AT ALL BECAUSE YOU BREED POMS AND KEEP REFERRING TO PAPER HANGING, WHATS THAT YOU CANT REGISTER CATS YOU DONT HAVE. EVERY CAT WE REGISTER IS A REGISTERED WITH TICA OR CFA OR TCA WHATS YOUR POINT YOU KEEP TALKING ABOUT DNA AND OTHER PEOPLE THIS PROBLEM HERE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHERE YOU ARE TRYING TO MAKE YOUR SLANDERING REMARKS.
WE CAN TELL YOU THAT A TCA RAGDOLL KITTEN WILL SELL JUST AS WELL AS A CFA REGISTERED KITTEN OR A TICA KITTEN ITS NOT THE PAPERS ITS THE KITTEN. LINDA MAKES IT VERY CLEAR TO EVERYONE WANTING BREEDERS THAT OUR MAIN GOAL IS TO SELL BEAUTIFUL PETS
THE CATS PAPERS YOU GOT WERE FOR YOUR CATS, T IF YOU DONT LIKE THE CATS OR THE TCA PAPERS NEXT TIME ASK MORE QUESTIONS AND GET FACTS IN WRITING THE CATS YOU BOUGHT HAD PAPERS I DONT KNOW WHAT PROBLEMS YOU HAD WITH TCA OTHER THAN THEY SAID YOU WERE UNREASONABLE AND NASTY
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I THINK YOU SHOULD BE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT BREEDING SO MANY ANIMALS YOURSELF AS SOUTH CAROLINA HAS RIGID LIMITS TO HOW MUCH A PRIVATE HOME OWNER CAN BREED AND IM SURE YOU EXCEED THAT I THINK THAT SHOULD BE LOOKED INTO AND WONDER IF YOUR ANIMALS HOW YOU TREAT THEM. AND ID BET YOU BREED MORE THAN TWO LITTERS A YEAR PLUS HOW MANY LITTERS OF POMS
HAD YOU EVIDENCE YOU WERE NOT GIVEN WHAT YOU HAD BEEN SOLD PAY PAL WOULD HAVE REFUNDED YOUR MONEY AND THEY DIDNT!
THIS SALE IS LONG OVER BUT WE WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW YOU DUMPED THE CAT AT THE ANIMAL CONTROL/SHELTER AND YOU KNOW IT
WE WANT THIS CONVERSATION TO STOP HERE AND PEOPLE TO KNOW YOU ARE A TROUBLE MAKER AND A PERSON THAT DUMPS AN ANIMAL AT THE SHELTER AND DOESNT CARE IF ITS PUT TO SLEEP OR NOT
IM GOING TO LOOK FOR PHOTOS OF THE MINKS YOU WERE SOLD SO PEOPLE CAN SEE
SHOWN IS THE MALE THAT WAS DUMPED AT THE ANIMAL CONTROL/SHELTER AND IS THE CAT SHE PAID $750.00 hes a Beautiful Mink 7 month old male
JR JOHNSTON
Melissa Barefoot
McBee,South Carolina,
United States of America
MITTENS???????? Did you send me the wrong Kittens Linda Davis?????
#34Consumer Comment
Tue, August 23, 2011
Here shows exactly what I expected in first place and they admitting they posted those false statements on Hot Complaints about me as they did not even give light to this on there. Mariner does not even have mittens (????) and female did not as matter fact also. Registration holders better check your record keeping also. Unless your admitting something new sending me wrong cats to start with. (????)
Fact still remains I was to receive TICA registration papers cats and they arrived with very poor quality registration holder for a reputable breeder in TICA. TICA will not recognize TCA, INC. Lets also point out (The Note) from Pay-pal as reminder what I was to receive and Linda Davis took my money from Pay-pal and sent the cats to me anyways of lesser quality and value than I even paid for and was expecting to receive from her and she was not even on the TCA, Inc as breeder. I would not call TCA,INC for information on anything to be confirmed as I had disagreement with TCA, Inc also.... I paid for # generation pedigree and they sent me lesser generation pedigree...(They count the parents on their pedigree). Just visit their website and read how they recognize cats in their registration and this why TICA will not recognize them point blank and this why I think Linda Davis was and is Hanging papers with TICA as she told me she would be doing and told me I should do with the two cats she sent me. ( I Melissa Barefoot will never or have not hung any papers in my life). Please TICA DNA test their pedigrees for all newbies, reputable breeders and put end to this in the cat world.
JR Johnston Let me get this straight::: You are now saying North Carolina Rescue... but said South Carolina Rescue Control on Hot complaints only. Which is it???? Anyone can call them to confirm Animal Rescue would never call a breeder and even if their papers where turned in with them as I do believe SC and NC have the same govern laws. I like to know HOW IN THE ****???? Can I place a cat I do not no longer own with a rescue, with his papers, and what your saying on here and on Hot complaints???? Do you think people are that dumb to believe this made up very sad story you trying to put on me??? I wonder if a Judge is that dumb to believe your lies???
ATTACHED: Pay-Pal screen shoot ....Also everyone take a look of screen shot w/new owner in 2009 show with TCA, Inc. from their site in my posting above all JR Johnston lies and its my second post on here. That owner(breeder) placed him with family in NC and he is still with them to this day as she responded on Hot Complaints.
"BBB did not rule in your favor ( another lie) they did not rule or settle anything. "
Jr50
Mulberry,Arkansas,
U.S.A.
Melissa Barefoot Did Get What she Paid for
#34Author of original report
Tue, August 23, 2011
Melissa Barefoot Did Get What She Paid FOR.
MELISSA BAREFOOT Did FILE a Claim thru BBB
AN INVESTIGATION WAS DONE BY THE BBB AND IT WAS RULED IN RITZNRAGDOLLS FAVOR WE HAD GIVEN THE BUYER WHAT SHE HAD BEEN PROMISED AND PAID FOR.
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT CATS MELISSA BAREFOOT PURCHASED IN 2008 WHICH IS SEVERAL YEARS AGO SHES NOW RAKING ALL THIS UP BECAUSE SHES BEEN EXPOSED AS A ANIMAL DUMPER
HER CLAIMS ABOUT THE PARTANAGE IS ANOTHER OF HER LUDACRIST THIS IS NASTY COMMENTS
Every cat we have registered with CFA or TICA or TCA is propely Registered with the Cat Registry.
AND THE PARANTAGE FOR EACH CAT IS PROVEN AND ALL PAPERWORK WE HAVE NEVER MISREPRESENTED ANY CAT WE HAVE SOLD,
IN OUR 25 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE OF CAT BREEDING RITZNRAGDOLLS IS IN GOOD STANDING WITH CFA AND TCA AND TICA THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN THRU BEING A BREEDER THAT SCAMS ITS BUYERS
WE STRIVE TO SELL BEAUTIFUL, HEALTHY, REGISTERED , SPAYED OR NEUTRED PETS TO PEOPLE
WE ARE SURE TWO LITTERS A YEAR ARE WAY MORE THAN MELISSA BAREFOOT CAN CARE FOR AND WITH BREEDING DOGS NO WONDER
MISS BROADFOOT YOU CAN BET ALL OF THE CATS RITZNRAGDOLLS HAS ARE WELL TAKEN CARE OF JUST LOOKING AT OUR KITTENS ON OUR WEBSITE IS PROOF OF THAT, WE SELL AND SHIP KITTENS ALL OVER THE WORLD OUR CATS ARE ALWAYS HEALTH CERTIFIED BY A VET THE ARE CLEAN AND PARASITE FREE AND WE WORK VERY HARD WITH THEIR CARE
THE WHOLE REASON FOR THIS SCENE IS:
I WAS CONTACTED BY THE NORTH CAROLINA ANIMAL CONTROL THIS IS TRUE FACT , THE BLUE MINK MALE WE SOLD MELISSA BAREFOOT FOR A BREEDER WAS TAKEN TO THE SOUTH CAROLINA ANIMAL CONTROL AND TOLD THEM SHE DIDNT CARE IF IT WAS PUT DOWN , THAT WAS QUOTED BY SOMEONE WHO WORKED THERE TO LINDA DAVIS
IF YOU LISTEN TO WHAT SHE SAY IS THE CAT NEVER WENT TO THE SHELTER WELL WHY DID WE GET THIS PHONE CALL AND THERE IS NO WAY THE SHELTER WOULD HAVE HAD THE BLUE MINK MALES REGISTRATION PAPERS AND INFORMATION UNLESS YOU SENT HIM TO THE POUND
THIS IS A LADY SAYS ANYTHING AND SHE HAS NO CONSCIENCE. HER MISTAKE WAS SHE HANDED IN HIS PAPERS WHICH LISTED ME AS BREEDER WITH MY PHONE NUMBER AND THANK GOD SOMEONE CARRED ENOUGH TO LET ME KNOW THE CAT HAD BEEN TURNED IN.
WE WERE TOLD THE CAT DID GET ADOPTED
SO IF YOU ARE A BREEDER READING THIS ,YOU DECIDE IF YOU WANT MELISSA BAREFOOT TO HAVE ONE OF YOUR CATS!
JR JOHNSTON
Melissa Barefoot
McBee,South Carolina,
United States of America
Just read my responses on link I supplied.
#34Consumer Comment
Tue, August 23, 2011
It's this simple JR Johnston I no longer owned WaterWorld of Barefoots aka Mariner reg with TCA. Inc.. Proof is sitting with TCA, Inc. DUH!!!!! details here::: (((ROR redacted))) My last response on there read it!!!!!!!! Only my Cattery Named was dropped. TCA Inc. should have looked it up also before slandering someone with other registration holders for cats. Your breeding to many cats to even keep up with ones you have. I only bred two litters in my life in cats and they did not come from TCA, INC cats you sold me. Yes ,please I highly agree with you only place your cats and kittens as pets only save other newbies so they can continue to be a reputable breeder and not be slandered. I still Highly recommend all other registration to investigate your cats parentage. Linda Davis said she was , is and getting TICA papers to hang them. Which she told me to do..... I got that on email and it was filled with BBB and PayPal with my complaint cause I did not receive product I paid for. If only you sent me TICA papers or taken the male and female back you would only have one record on BBB, I see you have 2 now.
CLICK here to see why Rip-off Report, as a matter of policy, deleted either a phone number, link or e-mail address from this Report.
Jr50
Mulberry,Arkansas,
U.S.A.
Melissa Barefoot Ragdolls and Poms
#34Author of original report
Mon, August 22, 2011
THIS WHOLE STORY BY MELISSA BAREFOOT IS VERY MISREPRESENTED WITH EVERY THING SHE WROTE, THE REAL PROBLEM HERE IS MELISSA BAREFOOT BOUGhT TWO BREEDING RAGDOLLS FROM US ONE WAS A MINK BLUE VERY BEAUTIFUL MALE WHICH SHE PAID $750.00 which is the price even less what people sell a spayed or neutered Pet for. The second cat was a Mink Female she paid $850 for which is the price of a pet again. IF SHE GOT ONE KITTEN FROM EACH KITTEN WE SOLD HER SHE LOST NOTHING BUT SO MUCH FOR HER MADE UP STORY
Several Months ago RitzNRagdolls was called by the South Carolina Animal Rescue they informed us:
Melissa Barefoot had brought in to them to surrender a Beautiful Blue Mink Male Ragdoll (Mitted) They called us because they said she also surrendered HIS papers which showed us as the breeder, they explainned that Melissa Barefoot was informed if she left the male that because of overcrowding if the cat didnt get put out on the floor he would be put to sleep in 3 days when they told her this she said, "THEN Do It!!!"
The LADY FROM THE ANIMAL RESCUE said this cat was loving and beautiful thats why they went to the trouble to let us know he had been turned in. The said the reason she tuurned him in was because he sprayed in her home.
DOESNT THIS SOUND LIKE SOMEONE THAT SHOULD BE BREEDING DOGS AND CATS?
Well Melissa Barefoot this is what comes natural to having whole males, THEY SPRAY and you are the most hartless breeder of animals Ive ever come across. And Any breeder reading this dont sell any cats for breeder to this lady.
Thru contacting several Cat Registrys and help from them the Blue Mink Male was ADOPTED.
I DID POST THIS STORY UNDER THIS BREEDERS NAME FOR EVERYONE TO KNOW HOW CRUEL SHE IS iIT IS OBVIOUS HER COMMENTS AGAINST OUR CATS REFERING TO THEIR DIRTY PAWS SHE IS TRYING TO MAKE THAT OUR CATS ARE NOT KEPT IN CLEAN CONDITIONS WE TAKE PRIDE IN OUR CATS AND THEY ARE BEAUTIFUL AND EVERYTHING A RAGDOLL SHOULD BE. OUR CATS HAVE THE FUR ON THEIR NOSES
PEOPLE CAN JUDGE FOR THEM SELVES WE HAVE BEEN BREEDING CATS FOR 25 YEARS AND YOU CANT MAKE EVERYONE HAPPY BUT WE DEVOTE OUR LIVES TO THE CARE AND WELL BEING OF OUR CATS AND IF YOU LOOK YOU CAN SEE RITZNRAGDOLLS HAS BEAUTIFUL KITTYS
THE REAL PROBLEM HERE IS SHOWN MELISSA BAREFOOT CARES NOTHING ABOUT HER ANIMALS AND DUMPS THEM AT THE SHELTER IF THEY MESS UP HER HOUSE
THERE IS NO EXCUSE IN THE WORLD FOR DOING THIS
THE CATS SHE BOUGHT FROM US WERE NOT CFA OR TICA THEY WERE TCA AND TCA WAS NOTIFIED THAT MELISSA BAREFOOT DID THIS TO AN ANIMAL ALSO TCA HELPED IN GETTING THE MALE SHE DUMPED AT THE SHELTER BE ADOPTED AND TCA WILL VERIFY THIS STORY JUST EMAIL THEM ITS TRUE
THERE IS ALWAYS TWO SIDES TO EVERY STORY AND ITS VERY EASY TO SEE MELISSA BAREFOOT IS NOT AN ANIMAL LOVING PERSON AND CARES NOTHING FOR HER ANIMALS AND ITS EASY FOR ANYONE TO SEE WHAT KIND OF PERSON SHE REALLY IS!!!!!!
THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR DUMPING A BEAUTIFUL SWEET MALE RAGDOLL AT THE HUMANE SOCIETY HER RIP OFF REPORT IS A REACTION TO PEOPLE BEING MADE AWARE OF HER CRUELTY TO THE BEAUTIFUL MALE CAT WE SOLD HER RitzNRagdolls sells only Spayed and Neutered Pets every kitten that leaves her is done. There are to many unresponsiable breeders now and more than ever we like to only sell spayed and neutered pets and selling Melissa Barefoot a breeder was a huge cruel mistake
JR Johnston
Melissa Barefoot
McBee,South Carolina,
United States of America
Ritznragdolls or Ritz n dolls or Ritz-n-Ragdolls or etc.
#34Consumer Comment
Mon, August 22, 2011
Linda Davis and JR Johnston or / Johnson both apart of this business in 2008. To make this short put Barefoots Ragdolls in search read my experience with them (Hot Complaints) and it still going on today after I took a great loss with Linda Davis dealings. All I can say is they telling lies on my Cattery this year. When trouble of customer (myself) they change their story around, will not be honest business owners, and then try to slander you. Angela Kostelansky if you still have them kittens I would be going to TICA to have them test them for parentage lines in my honest opinion. Ever heard the Term "Hung Papers" Just cause what Linda Davis said to me and written to me in a email. I really do believe TICA, CFA, and Etc. should pay them a visit. Why does that Kitten nose looks Bald and I see dirty feet stains???? on a cat???. I never seen dirty cat paws but on animal rescue shows like Animal Planted and those cats had to live in horror . I'm still considered new to cat world ....What do I know ANYWAYS.!!!????!!!!! I have seen stained kitten faces when still nursing from their mom.
Curt
Croton,New York,
USA
One scammer doing the other one better!
#34Consumer Comment
Mon, March 15, 2010
JR,
Angela is now selling Variant White Ragdolls which some Ragdoll Variant Breeders are selling for $10,000 a piece!?!? Mink Ragdolls are now Passe and their prices a falling. Maybe she'll come clean about the 2 Minks she owes you and give you one of her BEW's?
Curt Gehm
Liebling Cats
RagaMuffins
Jr50
Mulberry,Arkansas,
U.S.A.
Steel Valllly Still has never Shown Proof Of Spay Or Neuter
#34Author of original report
Thu, March 04, 2010
March 3, 2010********Steel Valley Ragdolls Cattery****** Keeps Removing this Report but We want people to know that Angela Kostebinsky Ripped US OFF and did not finish paying for the cats she Got from us. Everyone in the cat breeding business knows that Proof of Spay and Neuter is VERY IMPORTANT, and still Steel Valley Ragdolls just ignores this request and its because shes not telling the truth!!! The Two Cats She Claims she sold Have Never Been Proved to be Spayed or Neutered. Until Steel Valley Meets Our Agreement of Returning TWO Kittens We will Keep Letting people know that Steel Valley Ragdolls Does Not Do What They Agreed On I would be very leary of trusting or doing business with this cattery.
JR Johnston
Jr50
Mulberry,Arkansas,
U.S.A.
Steel Valley Ragdolls Has To Date not Shown Proof of this Kitten Take a L@@K
#34Author of original report
Thu, January 21, 2010
As Of January 30,2010 Steel Valley has not shown proof of spay and neuter of the two Mink Ragdolls they paid only half for. We will offer a $100.00 Reward for any information leading to proof they are keeping these cats for breeding. Here is the last picture taken before shipping the Seal Mink Tortie with White Mittens and Tux . As you can see she is a Beautiful Example of a Mink ragdoll Kitten as Steel Valley Claims the cats were not breeding Quality and saying she was taken advantage of Which is Far From The Truth See this Kitten
Jr50
Mulberry,Arkansas,
U.S.A.
Steel Valley Ragdolls Is Trying to Hide this Story
#34Author of original report
Fri, January 08, 2010
That she ripped off RitzNRagdolls and is telling Lies. She has our cats and has Never Shown Us Proof of spay and Neuter she is unethical in her business practices and Does Not tell the Truth. She Ows us two kittens in return and does not own the kittens she now has of ours tilll they are paid in full shes paid a lawyer to write a bogus threatning letter we will not stop till she has either given Valid Proof these kittens have been spayed or neutered which she has not done BEWARE She knows all the Tricks
Jr50
Mulberry,Arkansas,
U.S.A.
Steel Valley Never Has Shown Proof of The Two Rare Minks were Spayed and Neutered as she Claims
#34Author of original report
Fri, January 08, 2010
Steel Valley Ragdolls Owned by Angela Kostelansky In Pennsylvania has gone to great lengths to remove this report and hire an attorney but they proper and Ethical Thing to do is show Proof of Spay and Neuter of these two Ragdoll Kittens she Claims were Not to her Standards to breed. We will post photos so others Can see that indeed these were both two very Beautiful Kittens and were Breeding Quality as she trys to claim they werent. We Want others to know that she is not someone that keeps her word and thinks nothing of making up lies to cover her story.We Know either her or someone shes sold to has these to kittens Take a L@@K \
JR Johnston
RitzNRagdolls
Curt
Croton,New York,
U.S.A.
More Variants
#34
Thu, August 20, 2009
http://bakerspawsragdolls.com/
http://www.steelvalleyragdolls.com/SteelValleyKittens.htm
Seems like they with RitzNRagdolls are birds of a feather
Curt
Croton,New York,
U.S.A.
IRCA cats are not Ragdolls
#34
Wed, August 19, 2009
http://www.messybeast.com/asheras.htm
"In 1976, the franchising of Ragdolls ceased. It was expensive to run and required the services of an attorney. Breeders had already broken away from Baker's scheme in order to get the cats on a sound footing as a breed. IRCA remained until Baker's death and, like Brodie, IRCA launches new breeds such as the Honeybear and had 2 planned breeds called the Little American and the Catenoid. IRCA's cats were not registrable with the major cat associations. After Baker's death, IRCA Ragdolls were different enough to the more widely recognised Ragdoll that they were renamed RagaMuffins in order to be registrable in conventional cat fancies and for exhibition.."
As you see there were many reasons why the IRCA cats could not and were not considered Ragdolls.This included Minks, Sepias and Solids! RitZnRagdolls says I do not know about Ragdolls? I say ALL Mink, Sepia and Solid Ragdoll Breeders need a history lesson and should stop breeding variants and stop trying to copycat another Breed or ruin an established one. I'll compare the efforts of RitzNRagdolls to that of an uneducated backyard Breeder who mass produces pets and hawks them with terms of rarity because they choose to breed them in unacceptable colors that are not to a Breed Standard.Many things are "rare", like polio and Typhus! This doesn't mean it's desirable.
Curt Gehm
Liebling Cats
Curt
Croton,New York,
U.S.A.
Mink Ragdolls are Expensive Variants
#34
Tue, August 18, 2009
http://www.moggies.co.uk/breeds/ragamuffin_cat.html
"in the process of submitting a standard to American Cat Fanciers' Association. Klarmann credits Curt Gehm of Liebling Cats in Virginia with the choice of "RagaMuffin" because they came from the endearing little urchin cats of Riverside"
TICA is the only Cat Association that will register your Ragdoll Variants. Showing in the New Color Class or New Traits Class is for Variants and those cats are not given Titles or Awards.Do you Show your Variants in TICA? or just produce variant pets promoting their "Rarity"? CFA WILL NOT register your Mink or Sepia variant Ragdolls.Period.RagaMuffins are accepted and registered in CFA where the Breed recently was granted Provisional Breed status which is one step away from Championship status. http://www.cfainc.org/breeds/standards/ragamuffin.pdf
RitzNRagdolls,Please stop producing exspensive and overpriced Variants of 2 existing Breeds.Thank You!
Curt Gehm
Liebling Cats
Curt
Croton,New York,
U.S.A.
Mink Ragdolls are Expensive Variants
#34
Tue, August 18, 2009
http://www.moggies.co.uk/breeds/ragamuffin_cat.html
"in the process of submitting a standard to American Cat Fanciers' Association. Klarmann credits Curt Gehm of Liebling Cats in Virginia with the choice of "RagaMuffin" because they came from the endearing little urchin cats of Riverside"
TICA is the only Cat Association that will register your Ragdoll Variants. Showing in the New Color Class or New Traits Class is for Variants and those cats are not given Titles or Awards.Do you Show your Variants in TICA? or just produce variant pets promoting their "Rarity"? CFA WILL NOT register your Mink or Sepia variant Ragdolls.Period.RagaMuffins are accepted and registered in CFA where the Breed recently was granted Provisional Breed status which is one step away from Championship status Please RitzNRagdolls stop producing exspensive and overpriced Variants of 2 Breeds.Thank You!
Curt Gehm
Liebling Cats
http://www.cfainc.org/breeds/standards/ragamuffin.pdf
Jr50
Mulberry,Arkansas,
U.S.A.
Curt Gehm of Liebling Cats Makes False Claims of Being the Founder of the Ragggamuffin Breed
#34
Tue, August 18, 2009
Well I guess it true you can write anything and some people will believe it Curt Gehm of Liebling Cats is NOt the Founder of the Raggamuffin Breed we called and verified with TICA if he was the founder of the Raggamuffin Breed they laughed and said"Yeah Right". It was actually explained that Anne Baker had contracts on registering the Ragdolls and after her death people began taking the Ragdolls they then had and called them Raggamuffins. Also Mr Glem for your information Mink Ragdolls Can be shown at TICA Shows under "NEW Colors" So There You Go Mr Gehm
MINK Ragdolls Are The Ragdoll Breed Just Call and ASK TICA or CFA
Mr Gehm Please stop posting misrepresented things about the Mink Ragdoll Cats They are the Ragdoll BREED
JR Johnston
RitzNRagdolls
Jr50
Mulberry,Arkansas,
U.S.A.
Liebling cats/curt gehm Should Mind his Own Business and should take his Opinion about Mink Ragdolls Not Being Ragdolls Elswhere
#34
Mon, August 17, 2009
Again MR Gehm ,
Mink Ragdolls are Considered the Ragdoll Breed by all the Cat Registrys weather its a showable cat Who cares but you , the wording the Mink Ragdoll is not accepted is misrepresented its just not a shown , but is allowed for those who like it so lets MAKE THIS CLEAR
This Rip Off Report is Not About your opinion on how Mink Ragdolls should be registered. or whats our cats pedigree reads. If you want to argue this fact ,scontinue with TICA CFA and the other cat Registrys. The Fact is Mink Ragdolls are Ragdolls Not Raggamuffins .
When the cat registrys informs me that Minks are something other than Ragdolls than So it will Be but till then Mind your Own Business Mink Ragdolls are Registered Under the Ragdoll Breed and if you want to spend your time arguing about it Go Somewhere ELSE, who Cares Im sure everyone that has a Beautiful Mink Ragdoll doesnt care at all about how their kitty came about on papers. Only people like you. Truthfully Raggamuffins dont have near the beauty that Ragdolls / Mink/ or Solid do.
Your Comments about Breeding Varients is Causing Problems In the World IS a Joke Its only Causing Problems In YOUR World !!!!! Lots Of People Love the Minks Thats Why They Sell So Well.
If you dont like or approve of them then Sell your Traditonal Ragdolls Who Cares!!! People Buy what they see and What they Like Ragdolls were a mixture of breeds anyway and Everyone that owns Ragdolls and Mink Ragdolls knows the Mink Ragdolls have the same wonderful Personality and Beautiful Looks which are very popular weather you LIKE IT OR Not. Thats why in this world people have choices . Ragdolls Make Wonderful Pets We are Not into showing Just raising Beautiful Registered Pets. You saying you are comming to the defense of steel valley ragdolls I have many emails talking to her about we just Rasie Beautiful Pets she understood this very loud and clear when purchasing her kittens she got what she picked out and what she wanted .
RitZNRagdolls very clearly Ripped Off by Steel Valley Ragdolls she is either planning on breeding these Cats or has sold/traded them off. Steel Valley Ragdolls claims she wants to be a Reptuable Breeder She should have Given RitzNRagdolls Proof That She Spayed or Neutered These Two Rare Mink Ragdolls and todate she has never attempted to offer any proof because the arent spayed and neutered its a lie
I want to make this clear by RitzNRagdolls selling Mink Ragdolls does not make our Cattery Ripping people off, Nor does it make any other Cattery selling Mink Ragdolls Ripping people Off. The cats that were sold to Steel Valley Ragdolls were indeed Breeder Quality what defines what is breeder quality is if someone wants to breed them .
Mind Your Own Business
JR Johnston
RitzNRagdolls
*******MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS AND Take Your POLITICS SOMEWHERE ELSE***
Curt
Croton,New York,
U.S.A.
Curt Gehm and Liebling Cats made a suggestion
#34
Mon, August 17, 2009
Dear RitzNRags,
I made a consumer comment and suggestion to all Mink Ragdoll Breeders and provided a link which dispels your myth that Mink Ragdolls are "pure Ragdoll". This link clearly indicates Mink Ragdolls are outcrosses derived from RagaMuffins.Mink Ragdolls are registered in TICA as "Ragdoll Breed Variants". This is their current TICA Ragdoll Breed Status. Please post a certified 5 generational TICA Pedigree of your Mink Ragdolls dated after 2006 if you have evidence of Mink Ragdolls not being bred from outcrossed Breed sources. BTW, Croton is not another last name for me but my city of residence.
Liebling Cats
Jr50
Mulberry,Arkansas,
U.S.A.
Curt Gehm/ Curt Croton Of Liebling Cats Has No Business Dealing with RitzNRagdolls and Never has
#34
Sun, August 16, 2009
Curt Gehm/Curt Croton has no business dealings with RitzNRagdolls we or our cats are not anything purchased from his Raggamuffin cats and are not out of his bloodlines his comments , of RitzNRagdolls Mink bloodlines are derived from his Ragamuffin lines he bred and owned is NONSENSE & are untrue we are amazed at his claims His comments of RitzNRagdolls May be ripping people off is Slander . Again Our Ragdolls are the Ragdoll Breed not Raggamuffins and he has no right to post this.
We can see where on the internet other similar ripoff reports posted against Ragdoll Mink breeders hes using two names Curt Gehm and (Alias) Curt Croton, another breeder he slammed ,says she did no business and doesnt know him either or the names hes using , hes against the Mink and Solid Ragdolls being considered Ragdolls and they are ,all i can say is people have the choice
Again We have never done business with Liebling Cats, Curt Gehm or Curt Croton (alias) we do not know this person he has no right to post this NONSENSE and its all things he made up.
JR Johnston
RitzNRagdolls
Jr50
Mulberry,Arkansas,
U.S.A.
Liebling Cats is Misleading people about Mink Ragdolls
#34
Sun, August 16, 2009
Mr Curt Gehms comments about being so knowledgable about ragdolls its Not True HIS COMMENTS ABOUT Minks aren't the Ragdoll Breed its on their Registration papers they are the Ragdolls BREED not the Ragamuffin breed. RitzNRagdolls does not own any raggamuffins
All breeders selling the Mink Ragdolls refer to them as being Rare because Not many Ragdoll catterys are breeding them but it is becomming more popular all the time . Also the Solid Ragdolls are being seen more and More. Mr Gehms comments about the Mink Ragdolls not being accepted color is an attempt to make the Mink Ragdolls seem second rate which the truth is the Minks are just not shown, this doesnt make them less valuable as Mink Ragdolls sell for more money than traditonal ragdoll colors so that says something for them .
Mink Ragdolls were part of Anne Bakers origional ragdolls if people to read up on her Ragdolls you will see Minks. Truthfully Mr Curt Gehms has NO BUSINESS getting involved with this situwation of Steel Valley Ripping RitzNRagdolls off of two Mink Ragdoll kittens she ows in return of her purchase of Two Beautiful Mink Ragdoll Kittens and they were indeed Rare the one was a Sepia Chocolate Mink Bicolor kitten the other was a very pretty Seal Mink Tortie Mitted Female.I have Beautiful Photos of Both these kittens Sold
No one has been misled, Using the excuse of Miss Kostelansky was an uninformed new breeder , she picked out these kittens and got what she picked but Miss Kostelansky is breeding Ragdolls that are far more poor quality ,the proof is looking at her cattery you will see a very miss marked Mink Queen and a Solid white female that doesnt have even a ragdoll coat by looking at its photo. I see shes calls her Mink a" Ragdoll " not a Ragamuffin and also her Solid white shes calling a ragdoll
RitzNRagdolls has NEVER made any other claims to our kittens other than we raise BEAUTIFUL REGISTERED PETS i HAVE SEVERAL EMAILS SHOWING MISS KOSTELANSKY WAS VERY HAPPY WITH THE KITTENS SHE PURCHASED FROM US IT WAS LATER SHE MADE STORYS UP . STEEL VALLEY NEVER HAS SHOWN ANY PROOF OF THESE RAGDOLLS BEING SPAYED OR NEUTERED AS SHE CLAIMS BECAUSE SHE HASNT DONE IT AND THESE CATS ARE SOMEWHERE AND SOME CATTERY WILL SHOW UP WITH THESE TWO CATS THEY ARE VERY DISTINCTIVE. And they have not been spayed or neutered. This whole story would have been very simple had Steel Valley Ragdolls had just shown proof of these two Mink Ragdolls being spayed & Neutered till date she offers no PROOF because there is none
Take a L@@K at RitzNRagdolls we sell Beautiful Pets
I would say to Mr Curt Gehm of Liebling Cats you better be careful making slanderish comments about RitzNRagdolls and Linda Davis.
Mink Ragdolls Are the Ragdoll Breed Mr GELM I guess you just dont have any your self to know what they are.
JR Johnston , RitzNRagdolls
Curt
Croton,New York,
U.S.A.
Suggestion For All Mink Ragdoll Breeders
#34
Wed, August 12, 2009
Please stop selling and breeding outcrossed Ragdolls in colors that are Variants to the wriiten and accepted Ragdoll Breed Standards. Your Breeding Breed Variants are causing problems throughout the World.Please follow the provided link.
http://www.eiserblew.co.uk/ragamuffin.htm
Curt Gehm
Liebling Cats
RagaMuffin Breed Founder
Curt
Croton,New York,
U.S.A.
Maybe RitzNRagdolls is ripping eveyone off?
#34Consumer Suggestion
Tue, August 11, 2009
I feel Miss Kostelansky as an unimformed NEW Ragdoll Breeder was ripped of by RitzNRagdolls since Mink Ragdolls are not an accepted color within the Ragdoll Breed.RitzNRagdolls claims Mink Ragdolls are rare.The only thing that makes her Mink Ragdolls rare is the fact that she is Breeding them outside the Ragdoll Breed Standards.Mink Ragdolls cannot be entered in ANY Cat Association for any type of awards.Mink Ragdolls are also outcrosses from another fully recognized Breed which are called RagaMuffins.The Ragdoll Breed Standard States that outcrosses are not acceptable. I feel Miss Kostelansky was correct in neutering and spaying the Mink Ragdolls she purchased from RitzNRagdolls because all Mink colored Ragdolls are considered Variants within the existing Ragdoll Breed.All the Ragdoll Standards state Ragdoll cats are colorpointed with Blue eyes only. As founder of the RagaMuffin Breed I can fully attest to the fact that RitzNRagdolls Mink colored Ragdolls are RagaMuffin outcrosses derived from a RagaMuffin I personally bred and owned.
Curt Gehm
Liebling Cats
RagaMuffin Breed Founder
Jr50
Mulberry,Arkansas,
U.S.A.
Steel Valley Ragdolls Bought What they picked out in a Photo No One Misled shes Making Excuses and is Using Our Cats For Breeding
#34Author of original report
Tue, August 04, 2009
RitzNRagdolls We Specialize in selling beautiful Registered Ragdoll Pets we have never implied our cats are anything other than just that. Angela Kostelansky was misled by NO one these are just more excuses in her efforts to justify her scamming two ragdoll breeders from us. Steel Valley Ragdolls has posted for ragdoll breeders she charges $2000 and her Seal Mink Queen is clearly mismarked and will throw that trait in every litter she produces. RitzNRagdolls feels selling two Mink Ragdolls one being a Rare Sepia Ragdoll for $1250 was very reasonble we were very patient with her getting them paid off over a period of time and we did try to help her this has turned into an ugly story We know she plans on breeding these two cats and we will see evidance in the future we have warned TICA and also made note with them
Both Cats RitzNRagdolls sold her were beautiful kittens, she chose from photos , she makesexcuses but the bottom line is she made an agreement to pay part cash and to give back two kittens and she didnt nor give proof of this spaying and neutering going
Even if Miss Kostelansky did spay or neuter these two minks it still doesnt erase the agreement of her returning the two kittens in trade
she scammed two Mink ragdolls from us and doesnt tell the truth. In the beginning of her getting the two mink ragdolls from us we have many emails of her saying how much she loved them and how beautiful they were till she figured a way make up this lie.
I would say that Steel Valley Ragdolls is far from honest.
JR Johnston
RitzNRagdolls
Jr50
Mulberry,Arkansas,
U.S.A.
Steel Valley Ragdolls Bought What they picked out in a Photo No One Misled shes Making Excuses and is Using Our Cats For Breeding
#34Author of original report
Tue, August 04, 2009
RitzNRagdolls We Specialize in selling beautiful Registered Ragdoll Pets we have never implied our cats are anything other than just that. Angela Kostelansky was misled by NO one these are just more excuses in her efforts to justify her scamming two ragdoll breeders from us. Steel Valley Ragdolls has posted for ragdoll breeders she charges $2000 and her Seal Mink Queen is clearly mismarked and will throw that trait in every litter she produces. RitzNRagdolls feels selling two Mink Ragdolls one being a Rare Sepia Ragdoll for $1250 was very reasonble we were very patient with her getting them paid off over a period of time and we did try to help her this has turned into an ugly story We know she plans on breeding these two cats and we will see evidance in the future we have warned TICA and also made note with them
Both Cats RitzNRagdolls sold her were beautiful kittens, she chose from photos , she makesexcuses but the bottom line is she made an agreement to pay part cash and to give back two kittens and she didnt nor give proof of this spaying and neutering going
Even if Miss Kostelansky did spay or neuter these two minks it still doesnt erase the agreement of her returning the two kittens in trade
she scammed two Mink ragdolls from us and doesnt tell the truth. In the beginning of her getting the two mink ragdolls from us we have many emails of her saying how much she loved them and how beautiful they were till she figured a way make up this lie.
I would say that Steel Valley Ragdolls is far from honest.
Angie
Charleroi,Pennsylvania,
U.S.A.
RitzNRagdolls sell pet quality cats to new breeders and try to pass them off as breeder quality cats
#34REBUTTAL Owner of company
Tue, August 04, 2009
If anyone should be filing a Rip Off Report, it should be me. Linda Davis and JR Johnston sold me 2 Ragdolls last year for a total of $1250, which was paid to them in full. I paid $1250 PET price for what was supposed to be BREEDER QUALITY kittens. The breeding rights for the cats was to be paid via a kitten back but what I got was pet quality kittens that ended up being pet quality cats, NOT breeder quality cats. At the time I purchased the two kittens, I was a new breeder and these two people took advantage of me by trying to pass off two very poor quality Ragdolls as breeder quality cats. On the advise of many other very reputable breeders, I did not breed either one of these cats and took a huge loss on them. Both of these cats have been spayed/neutered and have never been bred. When I wrote to Linda at RitzNRagdolls to tell her this, she replied with a very nasty email in which she put me and every one of my cats down. She accused me of "listening to s****.>
Jr50
Mulberry,Arkansas,
U.S.A.
Steel Valley Ragdolls owned by Angela Koselansky
#34Author of original report
Mon, August 03, 2009
Please make sure this is readable on the internet I was unable to see the story something seemed to happen
Thanks
JRJ
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